What Do You Think About...?

Satanism. (I know, I know...OT gets plenty of religious threads; there have been plenty about God lately, so I wanted to get the opposite perspective.)

Let me explain a few things about Satanism:

- There are two types of Satanism: theistic Satanism and symbolic Satanism. Theistic Satanism is the belief that Satan is a deity; symbolic Satanism is the belief that there is no Satanic diety, but we should embrace the ideologies of the Christian Satan.

- Theistic Satanists may or may not believe in a theistic God. While some believe in the concept of the theistic God and feel that it wants to prevent us from thinking for ourselves and having our own beliefs. Other theistic Satanists completely denounce the theistic God, instead choosing to believe in a passive creator or that Satan is a deity independant of any other deity.

- Satanists do not encourage people to be evil. While the Christian belief may be that Satan only embraces things which are evil, Satanists believe that the goal of Satan was to allow humans to have ther own ideas and not be chained to God.

- Satanists are not advocates of law-breaking. Satanists advocate doing what you desire and knowing and accepting whatever consequences may come from your actions.

- Satanists believe that one of Satan's goals was to make human gods. Satanists believe that by embracing the things which God denounces, we can become masters of our destinies and thus human gods. (NOTE: The use of "gods" in this context is not suggesting that people can be omnipotent or anything associated with a Judeo-Christian God.)

- Satanists do not believe hell is eternal torment. When you think about it, it doesn't even make sense from a Christian perspective; if I live my life doing what Satan wants, why would He punish me when I die?

I'm sure I could make more points, but they might or might not be addressed throughout this thread, depending on where it goes. So, to take the religious discussions in a new direction, what do you guys think about it?

Don't believe in Satan or god. So IMO satanism is stupid

Don't believe in Satan or god. So IMO satanism is stupid

Visible_ninja69

is that the sweaty red guy with the arrow on his tail

i thought most forms of satanism were more hedonistic than anything else.Dman0017

is that the sweaty red guy with the arrow on his tail

Fizz111

I don't believe in God, so I don't believe in Satan.btaylor2404

It's a wonderful religion; and it seems to be the closest to getting it right, in my opinion. It promotes inner strength and embraces the self-serving nature that we as humans have. It's not a religion that castrates instinct. The only objection I have to satanism is some of the rituals.

It's a wonderful religion; and it seems to be the closest to getting it right, in my opinion. It promotes inner strength and embraces the self-serving nature that we as humans have. It's not a religion that castrates instinct. The only objection I have to satanism is some of the rituals.

dracula_16

Some of the ideas in symbolic Satanism are really not "evil" at all. Of course, the concepts are many that are denounced by most organized religions, but it seems the biggest crime Satanists are committing is the promotion of Self-centered and Self-advancing ideals. Most of the Satanist churches I've read about don't promote hate, don't promote violence, don't promote evil, and most don't even worship a Satanic deity. Mainly, they just promote self gain, ambition to be the best, money, sex, and other "sinful" things.

I think Santa is a pretty cool guy. Eh, steals from the rich, gives it to the poor and doesn't afraid of anything.

I think Santa is a pretty cool guy. Eh, steals from the rich, gives it to the poor and doesn't afraid of anything.

Dystopian-X

the first two rules of the internet prevent me from exposing you, troll.

Some of the ideas in symbolic Satanism are really not "evil" at all. Of course, the concepts are many that are denounced by most organized religions, but it seems the biggest crime Satanists are committing is the promotion of Self-centered and Self-advancing ideals. Most of the Satanist churches I've read about don't promote hate, don't promote violence, don't promote evil, and most don't even worship a Satanic deity. Mainly, they just promote self gain, ambition to be the best, money, sex, and other "sinful" things.

MystikFollower

I think Santa is a pretty cool guy. Eh, steals from the rich, gives it to the poor and doesn't afraid of anything.

Dystopian-X

I think Satanism is as good a religion as any others, perhaps a little better since it promotes doing what you want, instead of doing what some deity says you should and should not do.

I've always just been told satanism has the same principals as Christianity but just with a different "god" or ruler or whatever you'd like to call it. I've never assumed satanists were bad or evil at all :/ XilePrincess

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I think Santa is a pretty cool guy. Eh, steals from the rich, gives it to the poor and doesn't afraid of anything.

jalexbrown

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Don't believe in Satan or god. So IMO satanism is stupid

Visible_ninja69

...Are they ******* retarded?!?!?! This is big news to me

the first two rules of the internet prevent me from exposing you, troll.

Fizz111

i think you mean ho ho ho ;)Dman0017

Interesting read, but I choose to live my life the way I want.

Interesting read, but I choose to live my life the way I want.

Bluestorm-Kalas

I've never seen a theistic one, would be pretty interesting to hear from them, the other sorta makes sense, but i wouldn't label myself as well or bother doing any of the reading.........X360PS3AMD05

Why are Satanists always portrayed as a cult practising witchcraft and always goth or metal-head looking in movies?

Sigh_han

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"]They were posersSigh_han

I'd agree with that lol. I hate when people try to act hardcore. Wearing black nail polish and listening to Marilyn Manson does not make you hardcore.

I should know lol

i don't think about it at all.

Isn't it just atheism for people who are too cool and deep to be labeled as such?FrostyPhantasm

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]Isn't it just atheism for people who are too cool and deep to be labeled as such?jalexbrown

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]Isn't it just atheism for people who are too cool and deep to be labeled as such?FrostyPhantasm

Meh. I'll take the apathetic stance on this one.

I think its ridiculous

I think its ridiculous

Solid_Link22

Well then, if what you say is correct, I suppose I am a satanist. I do not believe in blindly following someone who is randomly in a book. I read Twilight, I don't believe in that, I read Harry Potter, I don't believe in that...why should the Bible be any different? But I do not believe in Stan, God, hell, heaven or any other of those 'things'. If they were truly real, and if those people were truly real, the world would not be as it is right now.optiow

I understand exactly why you could feel that way, but you can't know for certain that if God was real, things in this world wouldn't be how they are. God gave us the free will and free thinking to choose our experience and for thousands of years we've believed in a doctrine that states that we are inherently Evil and unworthy. Look at our current world and look throughout history, and you can easily see the bloody effects of a society that's been taught that. Everything that's wrong in our world is things that we as a species have caused unconsciously, consciously, and because of the fallacious beliefs we've held about God and Life for thousands of years. Beliefs that have not been allowed to evolve or change, and have left very little room for free thinking. Everything in the Universe must evolve or die, and I believe organized religion is going to be learning that lesson very soon.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] Well here is the thing, I'm familiar with your version of "sins" such as you are to never harm a person unless harm comes upon you, harming animals unless for survival is also frowned upon. Now i beg the question, what kind of action is against social norms of an athiest, but a satanist can indulge upon? Farting in public?FrostyPhantasm

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] In accordance to the Le-Vayan's Satanic Bible's Eleven Satanic Laws Of The Earth; you shall not state your opinion unless asked upon to do so, harm another animal unless it is for survival, harm a child, harm another man unless it's required, advance upon a female unless she gives a mating sign, if someone isn't bothering you ignore them, respect people when you are in their homes.FrostyPhantasm

I think its ridiculous

Solid_Link22