I blame the parents for not setting them strait at a young age. But most of the time their parents are kind of jacked up too.
What do you think about bullies?
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[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]Bullies are people too. I'm a bully and I'd like to think I'm a person.quiglythegreat
From my experience, they are not people. They're essentially clones of (and I know I sound nerdy, I wasn't bullied as a nerd) Kefka; they were being evil just because they could be and couldn't be stopped.
I don't really believe in evil. And I don't read whoever you're talking about (The Metamorphosis...?). Some people do it just to do it, but uh, why? Look, people have problems, bullies are just afraid of different things sometimes, often afraid of the same things, with isolated acts of kindness and then something gets in the way and they revert back to cruelty and self-destruction. It's a tough gig.It was Final Fantasy VI I was talking about. And they showed no kindness at all, nor did they act alone or in the shadows. They'd get an entire cl@ss against me and do it within sight of all. It was harsh. Incredibly harsh. They're nothing but evil. They weren't human at all.
[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]Bullies are people too. I'm a bully and I'd like to think I'm a person.quiglythegreat
From my experience, they are not people. They're essentially clones of (and I know I sound nerdy, I wasn't bullied as a nerd) Kefka; they were being evil just because they could be and couldn't be stopped.
I don't really believe in evil. And I don't read whoever you're talking about (The Metamorphosis...?). Some people do it just to do it, but uh, why? Look, people have problems, bullies are just afraid of different things sometimes, often afraid of the same things, with isolated acts of kindness and then something gets in the way and they revert back to cruelty and self-destruction. It's a tough gig.So your allowed to make other lives bad?
[QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"][QUOTE="kurtoronie"]I hate them, but it's most likely the parents fault, I mean, the parents pretty much choose your personality by the way they rais you IMO.quiglythegreat
That's how I feel. I just get mad when I see their parents cause they just didn't do enough to make sure the kid didn't turn into a bully.
You overestimate a parent's control of a child. Everything culminates to make a person, not just the parents. If you blame the parents, blame the parents' parents, and theirs before them, before you start cursing genesis itself. No, no, just everything, in the present, causes a person to act, and that may be a negative or a positive or a neutral action, but people who hurt others usually aren't so great mentally in the first place, so have some compassion.Yes. I understand that your sorroundings influence you greatly. I've moved around quite a bit and have seen how people are different depending on where they are. However, even though I see somebody who looks weak and geeky I don't go and pick on him. My parents made sure that I don't get out of control. I think that how they made me behave when I was younger influences many of my choices today. They never swore at me or just didn't care about what I was doing. I know people who are bullies (but are friendly to me for some reason) and their parents just don't seem to set the best example.
I've never had problems with them personally, I was the quiet guy who got along with pretty much everyone. But I knew some people who had problems with them in high school, and I was usually the one who solved it, mostly through intimidation. I only had to use force once and I regreted it afterwards. I know this one person who has Asperger's and people make fun of him, and that really pisses me off. I mean this is university, I guess you can't ever escape people like that. But I really want to hit them sometimes.SOedipus
Then do it. Physical pain gets things across easily and quickly (moreso with more force).
I've never had problems with them personally, I was the quiet guy who got along with pretty much everyone. But I knew some people who had problems with them in high school, and I was usually the one who solved it, mostly through intimidation. I only had to use force once and I regreted it afterwards. I know this one person who has Asperger's and people make fun of him, and that really pisses me off. I mean this is university, I guess you can't ever escape people like that. But I really want to hit them sometimes.SOedipus
I've always been quiet too, but sometimes that makes you a target. My school environment is full of wealthy, chatty teens, so when you're not talking, you're very noticeable.
[QUOTE="SOedipus"]I've never had problems with them personally, I was the quiet guy who got along with pretty much everyone. But I knew some people who had problems with them in high school, and I was usually the one who solved it, mostly through intimidation. I only had to use force once and I regreted it afterwards. I know this one person who has Asperger's and people make fun of him, and that really pisses me off. I mean this is university, I guess you can't ever escape people like that. But I really want to hit them sometimes.fidosim
I've always been quiet too, but sometimes that makes you a target. My school environment is full of wealthy, chatty teens, so when you're not talking, you're very noticeable.
True. I don't talk with everybody and it makes you stand out in a bad way.
[QUOTE="btaylor2404"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Stand up to them...they back down.Video_Game_King
Let me ask you this: have you ever been bullied? Its hard to stand up to an entire army, not all of us are Luke F'ing Skywalker. Usually, bullies have everyone on their side against you. It creates a feeling of complacence and hopelessness.
I despise them greatly and passionately, having been a victim to them for quite some time.Video_Game_King
If your still young, get past your hatred of them, soon you'll probably be their boss.
No, because fate is the eternal force of screwage: those who work hard amount to nothing and those who sin and do wrong their entire lives get on top.
No. Again don't know your age, and yes that is the case sometimes, but in the end those that do right get what they earned, and wrong what they deserve. I was tiny but popular and friends with everyone in HS, but saw things I should have said and done something about. I do now regardless of the situation, still 5'10" 140 lbs soaking wet, but smarts usually wins out over brawn.
They're pricks. What a ruined childhood during preschool. Someone hold me. :cry:CommanderShiro
Here's a list of all the bullies you had and their fears. Go give 'em Hell on Earth.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]Bullies are people too. I'm a bully and I'd like to think I'm a person.123625
From my experience, they are not people. They're essentially clones of (and I know I sound nerdy, I wasn't bullied as a nerd) Kefka; they were being evil just because they could be and couldn't be stopped.
I don't really believe in evil. And I don't read whoever you're talking about (The Metamorphosis...?). Some people do it just to do it, but uh, why? Look, people have problems, bullies are just afraid of different things sometimes, often afraid of the same things, with isolated acts of kindness and then something gets in the way and they revert back to cruelty and self-destruction. It's a tough gig.So your allowed to make other lives bad?
Seems people are hung up on power in this bully argument. Mistreating and disrespecting anyone is no good, and this includes bullies. They are human, they are living, they are people, they deserve some compassion, at least as much as everyone else does.[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"]They're pricks. What a ruined childhood during preschool. Someone hold me. :cry:Video_Game_King
Here's a list of all the bullies you had and their fears. Go give 'em Hell on Earth.
Only had bullies in pre-school, so the list isn't too big. They wouldn't let me play Power Rangers with them. :cry:[QUOTE="SOedipus"]I've never had problems with them personally, I was the quiet guy who got along with pretty much everyone. But I knew some people who had problems with them in high school, and I was usually the one who solved it, mostly through intimidation. I only had to use force once and I regreted it afterwards. I know this one person who has Asperger's and people make fun of him, and that really pisses me off. I mean this is university, I guess you can't ever escape people like that. But I really want to hit them sometimes.Video_Game_King
Then do it. Physical pain gets things across easily and quickly (moreso with more force).
Pain doesn't say anything at all. It's pain. That's all. To say that hitting someone because you're mad at them is a statement may be true, it's just a stupid, impulsive, uncalculated, and destructive statement.[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Stand up to them...they back down.btaylor2404
Let me ask you this: have you ever been bullied? Its hard to stand up to an entire army, not all of us are Luke F'ing Skywalker. Usually, bullies have everyone on their side against you. It creates a feeling of complacence and hopelessness.
I despise them greatly and passionately, having been a victim to them for quite some time.Video_Game_King
If your still young, get past your hatred of them, soon you'll probably be their boss.
No, because fate is the eternal force of screwage: those who work hard amount to nothing and those who sin and do wrong their entire lives get on top.
No. Again don't know your age, and yes that is the case sometimes, but in the end those that do right get what they earned, and wrong what they deserve. I was tiny but popular and friends with everyone in HS, but saw things I should have said and done something about. I do now regardless of the situation, still 5'10" 140 lbs soaking wet, but smarts usually wins out over brawn.
No, no, brawn usually wins. People aren't intimidated by brain. What carries more strength, "I'll beat the crap out of you", or "I'll manipulate people into hating you"? One gets a laugh and the other gets things done.
[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="SOedipus"]I've never had problems with them personally, I was the quiet guy who got along with pretty much everyone. But I knew some people who had problems with them in high school, and I was usually the one who solved it, mostly through intimidation. I only had to use force once and I regreted it afterwards. I know this one person who has Asperger's and people make fun of him, and that really pisses me off. I mean this is university, I guess you can't ever escape people like that. But I really want to hit them sometimes.quiglythegreat
Then do it. Physical pain gets things across easily and quickly (moreso with more force).
Pain doesn't say anything at all. It's pain. That's all. To say that hitting someone because you're mad at them is a statement may be true, it's just a stupid, impulsive, uncalculated, and destructive statement.No, pain will stop it quicker than going to an authority figure. Nobody ever bullies someone who could take them in a fight.
I feel empathetic towards them. In fact, most of the bullies that I've met were just people who were experiencing tragic events in their lives and express their anger among the people who were weak. If you ever meet one don't fear them just stand up to them. Who knows maybe soon they may become your friend once they deal with their problems and have respect for you, that situation happens numerous times in my life.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"][QUOTE="kurtoronie"]I hate them, but it's most likely the parents fault, I mean, the parents pretty much choose your personality by the way they rais you IMO.Nifty_Shark
That's how I feel. I just get mad when I see their parents cause they just didn't do enough to make sure the kid didn't turn into a bully.
You overestimate a parent's control of a child. Everything culminates to make a person, not just the parents. If you blame the parents, blame the parents' parents, and theirs before them, before you start cursing genesis itself. No, no, just everything, in the present, causes a person to act, and that may be a negative or a positive or a neutral action, but people who hurt others usually aren't so great mentally in the first place, so have some compassion.Yes. I understand that your sorroundings influence you greatly. I've moved around quite a bit and have seen how people are different depending on where they are. However, even though I see somebody who looks weak and geeky I don't go and pick on him. My parents made sure that I don't get out of control. I think that how they made me behave when I was younger influences many of my choices today. They never swore at me or just didn't care about what I was doing. I know people who are bullies (but are friendly to me for some reason) and their parents just don't seem to set the best example.
I don't think any f-bombs dropped by your parents during your younger years would really affect whether or not y ou go on to become a sadist or not. It's not just the parents, it's not just where you live, it's everything. People take out their pain in a lot of different ways. Being cruel is always a way of responding to some kind of pain. Period. Therefore, you should have compassion.I feel empathetic towards them. In fact, most of the bullies that I've met were just people who were experiencing tragic events in their lives and express their anger among the people who were weak. If you ever meet one don't fear them just stand up to them. Who knows maybe soon they may become your friend once they deal with their problems and have respect for you, that situation happens numerous times in my life.
greenprince
I didn't see that happen. Standing up to bullies will only result in you being knocked down like the pin you are.
[QUOTE="SOedipus"]I've never had problems with them personally, I was the quiet guy who got along with pretty much everyone. But I knew some people who had problems with them in high school, and I was usually the one who solved it, mostly through intimidation. I only had to use force once and I regreted it afterwards. I know this one person who has Asperger's and people make fun of him, and that really pisses me off. I mean this is university, I guess you can't ever escape people like that. But I really want to hit them sometimes.fidosim
I've always been quiet too, but sometimes that makes you a target. My school environment is full of wealthy, chatty teens, so when you're not talking, you're very noticeable.
I'm not anti-social or anything (not saying that you are either) but I was more of a "talk when spoken to" kind of person, in fact I'm still like that. I responded politely most of the time, and the girls liked talking to me, so it wasn't too bad, but I do regret not being as social as I could have. There were some people like me but they ignored people or repsonded rudely to others if people talked to them, and those were generally the ones who were picked on.
[QUOTE="greenprince"]I feel empathetic towards them. In fact, most of the bullies that I've met were just people who were experiencing tragic events in their lives and express their anger among the people who were weak. If you ever meet one don't fear them just stand up to them. Who knows maybe soon they may become your friend once they deal with their problems and have respect for you, that situation happens numerous times in my life.
Video_Game_King
I didn't see that happen. Standing up to bullies will only result in you being knocked down like the pin you are.
Indeed, if you could beat them up, they probably wouldn't be bullying you in the first place.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="SOedipus"]I've never had problems with them personally, I was the quiet guy who got along with pretty much everyone. But I knew some people who had problems with them in high school, and I was usually the one who solved it, mostly through intimidation. I only had to use force once and I regreted it afterwards. I know this one person who has Asperger's and people make fun of him, and that really pisses me off. I mean this is university, I guess you can't ever escape people like that. But I really want to hit them sometimes.Video_Game_King
Then do it. Physical pain gets things across easily and quickly (moreso with more force).
Pain doesn't say anything at all. It's pain. That's all. To say that hitting someone because you're mad at them is a statement may be true, it's just a stupid, impulsive, uncalculated, and destructive statement.No, pain will stop it quicker than going to an authority figure. Nobody ever bullies someone who could take them in a fight.
Force hardly changes anything. Too many people have this weird fixation on power. You're not IMPROVING anything but your own condition, and even then, it's by asserting some kind of power in this queer perverse institution, rather than some genuine altruism, that's what helps you and bullies at the same time. Sending them to detention because they made you insecure does very, very little. And people have no idea what pain is, it's so frustrating, really. It's not 'ow, I broke my finger'. I've known that pain, it's not that bad. It's not even just 'the love of my life is not the love of my life' kind of corny stuff either. It's 'oh no...I've got to get through today'. And this anxiety, this fear, this pain, this is what I'm talking about that drives people to do such bad things. You've got to get rid of that in everyone if you want your own suffering to end, even if the person in question does not hurt you. Their pain will get to you, you can't help that, you may deal with it to an extent, but it gets in in strange ways. But back to the point, yeah, I make fun of kids way bigger than me, I'm just cocky.
[QUOTE="greenprince"]I feel empathetic towards them. In fact, most of the bullies that I've met were just people who were experiencing tragic events in their lives and express their anger among the people who were weak. If you ever meet one don't fear them just stand up to them. Who knows maybe soon they may become your friend once they deal with their problems and have respect for you, that situation happens numerous times in my life.
Video_Game_King
I didn't see that happen. Standing up to bullies will only result in you being knocked down like the pin you are.
Maybe that's what happened to you but when I stood up to a bully he never picked on me again.
[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="greenprince"]I feel empathetic towards them. In fact, most of the bullies that I've met were just people who were experiencing tragic events in their lives and express their anger among the people who were weak. If you ever meet one don't fear them just stand up to them. Who knows maybe soon they may become your friend once they deal with their problems and have respect for you, that situation happens numerous times in my life.
SaintBlaze
I didn't see that happen. Standing up to bullies will only result in you being knocked down like the pin you are.
Maybe that's what happened to you but when I stood up to a bully he never picked on me again.
There are all kinds of bullies. I'm going to lose a fight with the police, I'm sorry, but that's not going to work. I've walked through a group of kids making like they were about to jump me and they all just wimped out, yeah, that happens, but not very freakin' often. the issue is not whether or not you can exert power over them; it should bother you that someone would want to hurt another human being.[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="CommanderShiro"]They're pricks. What a ruined childhood during preschool. Someone hold me. :cry:greenprince
Here's a list of all the bullies you had and their fears. Go give 'em Hell on Earth.
Only had bullies in pre-school, so the list isn't too big. They wouldn't let me play Power Rangers with them. :cry:Why? Because you wanted to be the pink ranger or another specific color that wasn't your skin color? Bunch of racistsRacism was the reason I was bullied then. I was the only Asian lol. They told me to be the Yellow Ranger's boyfriend or something.I've never really come across one.
Well, I sort of did back in middle school. This punk kid way back in 7th grade with some serious problems (the sad kind) used to pick on this short bulky kid in PE class. Apparently the short kid got tired of it one day and put him in a choke-hold, bringing him to the brink of losing conciousness..releasing him only after a few of us pulled him away. The punk kid fell to the ground and was on his hands and knees coughing for a few minuites.
It turns out the kid wasn't bulky from excess body fat..instead it was muscle mass, as he apparently lifted weights. Kinda felt bad for the punkboy..but I don't recall there being any problems between the two from then on.
I've never had anyone bully me, and I don't think I've ever really bullied anyone else. I generally consider myself to be a nice guy, so if I have bullied someone, they probably deserved it :P
Force hardly changes anything. Too many people have this weird fixation on power. You're not IMPROVING anything but your own condition, and even then, it's by asserting some kind of power in this queer perverse institution, rather than some genuine altruism, that's what helps you and bullies at the same time. Sending them to detention because they made you insecure does very, very little. And people have no idea what pain is, it's so frustrating, really. It's not 'ow, I broke my finger'. I've known that pain, it's not that bad. It's not even just 'the love of my life is not the love of my life' kind of corny stuff either. It's 'oh no...I've got to get through today'. And this anxiety, this fear, this pain, this is what I'm talking about that drives people to do such bad things. You've got to get rid of that in everyone if you want your own suffering to end, even if the person in question does not hurt you. Their pain will get to you, you can't help that, you may deal with it to an extent, but it gets in in strange ways. But back to the point, yeah, I make fun of kids way bigger than me, I'm just cocky.
quiglythegreat
The punishments set up by institutions do very little to help, I agree there. But kindness gets one nowhere, and often times leads one into horrible things. Bullies strive on power, and beating them up will show them just how weak they truly are. And most bullies are manipulative, meaning that if you try to show any type of kindness (and this was solution 1 for me), they cause you suffering. And I don't mean finger breaking pain, I mean pain that will last and leave a mental imprint. I've seen many of the bullies, they have no such pains to speak of. They're well off and quite popular, often times favored by the system (as does happen in the outside world). As I have said before, they're nothing more than clones of Kefka.
[QUOTE="greenprince"]I feel empathetic towards them. In fact, most of the bullies that I've met were just people who were experiencing tragic events in their lives and express their anger among the people who were weak. If you ever meet one don't fear them just stand up to them. Who knows maybe soon they may become your friend once they deal with their problems and have respect for you, that situation happens numerous times in my life.
Video_Game_King
I didn't see that happen. Standing up to bullies will only result in you being knocked down like the pin you are.
Yes, there are ocassions where confronting your problems may not be the best solution. Sometimes bullies are people who are either sadists, Sociopathic or even psychopaths. This is a situation where you can not be settled in any proper way. But in the end those types of people are the ones who should be empathize the most for they can not comprehend or conceive the benefitsemotions that they know do not have.[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="SOedipus"]I've never had problems with them personally, I was the quiet guy who got along with pretty much everyone. But I knew some people who had problems with them in high school, and I was usually the one who solved it, mostly through intimidation. I only had to use force once and I regreted it afterwards. I know this one person who has Asperger's and people make fun of him, and that really pisses me off. I mean this is university, I guess you can't ever escape people like that. But I really want to hit them sometimes.SOedipus
I've always been quiet too, but sometimes that makes you a target. My school environment is full of wealthy, chatty teens, so when you're not talking, you're very noticeable.
I'm not anti-social or anything (not saying that you are either) but I was more of a "talk when spoken to" kind of person, in fact I'm still like that. I responded politely most of the time, and the girls liked talking to me, so it wasn't too bad, but I do regret not being as social as I could have. There were some people like me but they ignored people or repsonded rudely to others if people talked to them, and those were generally the ones who were picked on.
I'm exactly the way you seem to have been. I've always smiled and been polite when people initiate conversation with me. I just don't start the conversations as often as other people would. And I also know about the quiet kids who seem to be rude whom you are talking about, but my take on them is that i've seen them picked on before, so they become so defensive that when someone wants to legitimately talk to them, they are naturally hostile to them.
[QUOTE="btaylor2404"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Stand up to them...they back down.Video_Game_King
Let me ask you this: have you ever been bullied? Its hard to stand up to an entire army, not all of us are Luke F'ing Skywalker. Usually, bullies have everyone on their side against you. It creates a feeling of complacence and hopelessness.
I despise them greatly and passionately, having been a victim to them for quite some time.Video_Game_King
If your still young, get past your hatred of them, soon you'll probably be their boss.
No, because fate is the eternal force of screwage: those who work hard amount to nothing and those who sin and do wrong their entire lives get on top.
No. Again don't know your age, and yes that is the case sometimes, but in the end those that do right get what they earned, and wrong what they deserve. I was tiny but popular and friends with everyone in HS, but saw things I should have said and done something about. I do now regardless of the situation, still 5'10" 140 lbs soaking wet, but smarts usually wins out over brawn.
No, no, brawn usually wins. People aren't intimidated by brain. What carries more strength, "I'll beat the crap out of you", or "I'll manipulate people into hating you"? One gets a laugh and the other gets things done.
Well you feel the way you do. But in my experience your mostly wrong. I am where I am today because of my mental skills, and people are intimidated by your brain power more than fists. In the real world (job market) you can't go around punching people so what is your other means of exerting power?
hahaha bullies. Man, if anyone ever tried to mess with my I would knock their ass out. I have never had to worry about a bully though.
But bullies are just losers who have a terrible life at home and low self-esteem and feel they need to pick on others to make themselves feel better.
Well you feel the way you do. But in my experience your mostly wrong. I am where I am today because of my mental skills, and people are intimidated by your brain power more than fists. In the real world (job market) you can't go around punching people so what is your other means of exerting power?
btaylor2404
Idiots are the ones that succeed in life, and the smart seem to become failures. Again, this is fate screwing one over.
Pitty them. Generally in my experience it's a lack of self esteem or something at home. As they become adults most fail.
btaylor2404
I'm not sure I buy the low self esteem explanation. Most bullies are pretty full of themselves. I had trouble with one guy in high school, and I finally went ahead and fought him. The fight was a stand off, and after that, he never talked to be or acknowledged me for the rest of the year.
I think the real problem is the policy of the schools. Most schools will punish you for drinking on the weekends, but will turn a blin eye to bullies. And to make things worse, they'll dole out equal punishment to the instigator of a fight and the guy who's just standing up for himself.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] Force hardly changes anything. Too many people have this weird fixation on power. You're not IMPROVING anything but your own condition, and even then, it's by asserting some kind of power in this queer perverse institution, rather than some genuine altruism, that's what helps you and bullies at the same time. Sending them to detention because they made you insecure does very, very little. And people have no idea what pain is, it's so frustrating, really. It's not 'ow, I broke my finger'. I've known that pain, it's not that bad. It's not even just 'the love of my life is not the love of my life' kind of corny stuff either. It's 'oh no...I've got to get through today'. And this anxiety, this fear, this pain, this is what I'm talking about that drives people to do such bad things. You've got to get rid of that in everyone if you want your own suffering to end, even if the person in question does not hurt you. Their pain will get to you, you can't help that, you may deal with it to an extent, but it gets in in strange ways. But back to the point, yeah, I make fun of kids way bigger than me, I'm just cocky.
Video_Game_King
The punishments set up by institutions do very little to help, I agree there. But kindness gets one nowhere, and often times leads one into horrible things. Bullies strive on power, and beating them up will show them just how weak they truly are. And most bullies are manipulative, meaning that if you try to show any type of kindness (and this was solution 1 for me), they cause you suffering. And I don't mean finger breaking pain, I mean pain that will last and leave a mental imprint. I've seen many of the bullies, they have no such pains to speak of. They're well off and quite popular, often times favored by the system (as does happen in the outside world). As I have said before, they're nothing more than clones of Kefka.
Really, I don't like RPGs, there, I said it. You seem fixated on exerting power over other people. I just cannot understand this. Obviously kindness is the only way to get much of anywhere. I don't understand why you would disagree. The reason we theoretically dislike bullies is because theoretically they lack this quality.[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Pitty them. Generally in my experience it's a lack of self esteem or something at home. As they become adults most fail.
MarkSmith
I'm not sure I buy the low self esteem explanation. Most bullies are pretty full of themselves. I had trouble with one guy in high school, and I finally went ahead and fought him. The fight was a stand off, and after that, he never talked to be or acknowledged me for the rest of the year.
That's great, tell us more of the tales of your high-school era dominance! What does that say about the guy? That he doesn't talk to the guy who kicked his ass! That's all. The low self esteem bit may not always be true, but I would have a hard time believing it's never true.[QUOTE="greenprince"][QUOTE="CommanderShiro"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="CommanderShiro"]They're pricks. What a ruined childhood during preschool. Someone hold me. :cry:CommanderShiro
Here's a list of all the bullies you had and their fears. Go give 'em Hell on Earth.
Only had bullies in pre-school, so the list isn't too big. They wouldn't let me play Power Rangers with them. :cry:Why? Because you wanted to be the pink ranger or another specific color that wasn't your skin color? Bunch of racistsRacism was the reason I was bullied then. I was the only Asian lol. They told me to be the Yellow Ranger's boyfriend or something. That happened to you too? I'm Filipino and they always pinned me up to be the yeallow ranger despite the fact that 1. I'm not Female and 2. I'm not Chinese. It was annoying because the other kids get to be the color I wanted to be.:evil: p.s the color was greenReally, I don't like RPGs, there, I said it. You seem fixated on exerting power over other people. I just cannot understand this. Obviously kindness is the only way to get much of anywhere. I don't understand why you would disagree. The reason we theoretically dislike bullies is because theoretically they lack this quality.
quiglythegreat
OK, I can understand not liking RPG's, but that video was just to get the point across of who Kefka is (someone else lacking knowledge of him earlier in the thread). And kindness can lead one into Hell. Another RPG, but it gets my point across of power winning over kindness. And bullies lack this quality, but fighting back with that quality will get one nowhere. Again, setting one's self up to get knocked down hard. The only way is to show them that you are the more powerful one and put them through their own Hell.
Edit: if you don't get that example, its probably because of a lack of context. If that's the case, I'll include another example in the next inevitable post.
Aye, I agree. You can make people far more afraid of you if you simply convince them that they can't cause you any harm. I mean, spit blood at them and light yourself on fire, they're going to be far more intimidated by that than by how many pull-ups you can do. Even just being smarter is a pretty big edge.Well you feel the way you do. But in my experience your mostly wrong. I am where I am today because of my mental skills, and people are intimidated by your brain power more than fists. In the real world (job market) you can't go around punching people so what is your other means of exerting power?
btaylor2404
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] Really, I don't like RPGs, there, I said it. You seem fixated on exerting power over other people. I just cannot understand this. Obviously kindness is the only way to get much of anywhere. I don't understand why you would disagree. The reason we theoretically dislike bullies is because theoretically they lack this quality.
Video_Game_King
OK, I can understand not liking RPG's, but that video was just to get the point across of who Kefka is (someone else lacking knowledge of him earlier in the thread). And kindness can lead one into Hell. Another RPG, but it gets my point across of power winning over kindness. And bullies lack this quality, but fighting back with that quality will get one nowhere. Again, setting one's self up to get knocked down hard. The only way is to show them that you are the more powerful one and put them through their own Hell.
Edit: if you don't get that example, its probably because of a lack of context. If that's the case, I'll include another example in the next inevitable post.
Look, the point is that you don't want to be dominated by other people. Doing the same solves nothing but makes a tyrant out of you. Forget that.[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Aye, I agree. You can make people far more afraid of you if you simply convince them that they can't cause you any harm. I mean, spit blood at them and light yourself on fire, they're going to be far more intimidated by that than by how many pull-ups you can do. Even just being smarter is a pretty big edge.Well you feel the way you do. But in my experience your mostly wrong. I am where I am today because of my mental skills, and people are intimidated by your brain power more than fists. In the real world (job market) you can't go around punching people so what is your other means of exerting power?
quiglythegreat
No, convincing them that you're smarter does nothing. They'll go to any length to achieve their goal. You think the KKK stops at intimidating phone calls when you say "You don't scare me"? They're bullies, are they not?
[QUOTE="MarkSmith"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Pitty them. Generally in my experience it's a lack of self esteem or something at home. As they become adults most fail.
quiglythegreat
I'm not sure I buy the low self esteem explanation. Most bullies are pretty full of themselves. I had trouble with one guy in high school, and I finally went ahead and fought him. The fight was a stand off, and after that, he never talked to be or acknowledged me for the rest of the year.
That's great, tell us more of the tales of your high-school era dominance! What does that say about the guy? That he doesn't talk to the guy who kicked his ass! That's all. The low self esteem bit may not always be true, but I would have a hard time believing it's never true.I didn't kick his ass at all. He got in a hard punch right to my jaw, but I took in in stride and fought back before we got broken up. He didn't leave mealone because he thought I would have bested him in the fight (in all likelihood I wouldn't have, this dude was huge). The reason he left me alone was because he figured he could find someone else to mess with who would just stand there and take it. That's all bullies want is someone who won't put up any resistance.
Your goal doesn't have to be to win the fight. If you stand up for yourself at all, bullies will go find someone else. I didn't believe it either until I tried it.
[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] Really, I don't like RPGs, there, I said it. You seem fixated on exerting power over other people. I just cannot understand this. Obviously kindness is the only way to get much of anywhere. I don't understand why you would disagree. The reason we theoretically dislike bullies is because theoretically they lack this quality.
quiglythegreat
OK, I can understand not liking RPG's, but that video was just to get the point across of who Kefka is (someone else lacking knowledge of him earlier in the thread). And kindness can lead one into Hell. Another RPG, but it gets my point across of power winning over kindness. And bullies lack this quality, but fighting back with that quality will get one nowhere. Again, setting one's self up to get knocked down hard. The only way is to show them that you are the more powerful one and put them through their own Hell.
Edit: if you don't get that example, its probably because of a lack of context. If that's the case, I'll include another example in the next inevitable post.
Look, the point is that you don't want to be dominated by other people. Doing the same solves nothing but makes a tyrant out of you. Forget that.I know this sounds Machiavellian of me, but sometimes being a tyrant is necessary to achieve justice. And dominating others solves the whole damn problem. If you're dominant, they're not bullying you anymore, are they?
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Aye, I agree. You can make people far more afraid of you if you simply convince them that they can't cause you any harm. I mean, spit blood at them and light yourself on fire, they're going to be far more intimidated by that than by how many pull-ups you can do. Even just being smarter is a pretty big edge.Well you feel the way you do. But in my experience your mostly wrong. I am where I am today because of my mental skills, and people are intimidated by your brain power more than fists. In the real world (job market) you can't go around punching people so what is your other means of exerting power?
Video_Game_King
No, convincing them that you're smarter does nothing. They'll go to any length to achieve their goal. You think the KKK stops at intimidating phone calls when you say "You don't scare me"? They're bullies, are they not?
I've got an idea to solve the problem. Rip their heads off, drink their blood, murder their children, throw them in prison, and let them rot. Sounds great to me.[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="MarkSmith"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Pitty them. Generally in my experience it's a lack of self esteem or something at home. As they become adults most fail.
MarkSmith
I'm not sure I buy the low self esteem explanation. Most bullies are pretty full of themselves. I had trouble with one guy in high school, and I finally went ahead and fought him. The fight was a stand off, and after that, he never talked to be or acknowledged me for the rest of the year.
That's great, tell us more of the tales of your high-school era dominance! What does that say about the guy? That he doesn't talk to the guy who kicked his ass! That's all. The low self esteem bit may not always be true, but I would have a hard time believing it's never true.I didn't kick his ass at all. He got in a hard punch right to my jaw, but I took in in stride and fought back before we got broken up. He didn't leave mealone because he thought I would have bested him in the fight (in all likelihood I wouldn't have, this dude was huge). The reason he left me alone was because he figured he could find someone else to mess with who would just stand there and take it. That's all bullies want is someone who won't put up any resistance.
Your goal doesn't have to be to win the fight. If you stand up for yourself at all, bullies will go find someone else. I didn't believe it either until I tried it.
The standing up to them thing? Yea, I tried that, and he just got cockier, and the bullying just got worse. Standing up to the bullies only made things worse.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] Really, I don't like RPGs, there, I said it. You seem fixated on exerting power over other people. I just cannot understand this. Obviously kindness is the only way to get much of anywhere. I don't understand why you would disagree. The reason we theoretically dislike bullies is because theoretically they lack this quality.
Video_Game_King
OK, I can understand not liking RPG's, but that video was just to get the point across of who Kefka is (someone else lacking knowledge of him earlier in the thread). And kindness can lead one into Hell. Another RPG, but it gets my point across of power winning over kindness. And bullies lack this quality, but fighting back with that quality will get one nowhere. Again, setting one's self up to get knocked down hard. The only way is to show them that you are the more powerful one and put them through their own Hell.
Edit: if you don't get that example, its probably because of a lack of context. If that's the case, I'll include another example in the next inevitable post.
Look, the point is that you don't want to be dominated by other people. Doing the same solves nothing but makes a tyrant out of you. Forget that.I know this sounds Machiavellian of me, but sometimes being a tyrant is necessary to achieve justice. And dominating others solves the whole damn problem. If you're dominant, they're not bullying you anymore, are they?
No, but that's a deliberately ignorant line of reasoning. THEY are then being bullied. It's not 'bully or be bullied'. It's 'CHILL THE HELL OUT AND BE A LITTLE KIND SO YOU DON'T DIE UNHAPPY'. That solves the problem. The bully feels better, you feel better, yay, this works, pain is conquered.It works sometimes. I know. I've tried it. I'm a tall person with a sharp tongue, I can get by sometimes, but not always, and that's how it is with anyone. 'Standing up' to a person doesn't do a thing. Just mind the person's a human being, that's all I'm saying.I didn't kick his ass at all. He got in a hard punch right to my jaw, but I took in in stride and fought back before we got broken up. He didn't leave mealone because he thought I would have bested him in the fight (in all likelihood I wouldn't have, this dude was huge). The reason he left me alone was because he figured he could find someone else to mess with who would just stand there and take it. That's all bullies want is someone who won't put up any resistance.
Your goal doesn't have to be to win the fight. If you stand up for yourself at all, bullies will go find someone else. I didn't believe it either until I tried it.
MarkSmith
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