What do you think about multiculturalism?

Do you honestly believe that people of different races, religions, political leanings, classes and whatever else defines a person can live together in a peaceful, healthy, and happy society? Does not the racial tension, political warfare, and religious disagreements that characterize American society prove that multiculturalism does not work?

Take the recent fatal shooting of Black teenager Michael Brown by White police officer Darren Wilson as an example. Do you think that riots would have erupted if Darren Wilson were the same race as Michael Brown or do you think that everyone would have accepted the shooting as justified given the accounts of Darren Wilson and supporting eye-witnesses (and the suggestive footage of Brown robbing a convenience store)?

Take the age-old battle between Liberals and Conservatives as another example; the former wants everyone to be able to express themselves however they wish while the latter wants everyone to live according to a traditional set of rules and principles. These two parties claw at each other on a daily basis and tear one another to shreds during election seasons.

This goes much further than that. Any group will eventually stereotype other groups as bad or good. And I feel that's because it's in our nature to hate, and media enhances it by always bringing it up so they can earn a profit.

Hate and Anger sell. And they give people a sense of power.

You avoided my question.

@emil_fontz: On a large scale, I don't think it can work because of the media. On a small scale, sure enough. I know plenty of people who're of different color or belief, yet are all friends with each other.

The reason for the riots is not multiculturalisme. The fact that you even think that pretty much show that black americans have a small point in their complaint that they often are met with behaviour that can be seen as racist.

The reason for the riots is partly the self-harming idea that most blacks have that they are being treated differently because of their color, even though most people couldn't give a crap. and partly the real racisme they do meet from a few select few people. Also its kinda funny that some white americans think they have a bigger claim on america than anyone else, the only true americans everyone else is immigrants.

But to your question , yes we can live together since we are all part of this crazy thing called homo sapiens who have decided to grow on this planet we call earth.

Well if you remove religious absolutism and the people that encourage and make money off of tribalism then yeah.

I think it depends on the thing that the people are bringing.

I'd say most are just fine.

But something like Islam though; no I don't think it's compatible with the modern world.

@MakeMeaSammitch: In what way? I happen to be friends with muslims so socially I think it's no problem.

But if you mean the religion as written in the qu'ran then I'd say no. But that'd go for the bible aswell. Books that have aged and aren't relevant anymore in my opinion.

I live in one of the most multicultural cities on the planet and we in relative peace and harmony, so the answer is yes.

I like it

Along the lines of your second sentence wouldn't work.

Which city is that?

Toronto

*high fives*

Though the Muslims and Jews that go to York U hate each other. Other than that we good.

OP, it depends on the size and formation of their skull and brain bro. That's the answer to everything

Yes.

It should be pointed out that the world's most diverse countries are in Sub-Saharan Africa and south Asia. Most of Europe for example is quite un-diverse.

India is probably the best example of a genuinely functional and pluralistic society that I can think of.

Seems to work pretty well in Cambridge/Boston.

There's only a small percentage of people who know the truth about our system, they are both good and bad.

The bad(most people in power) use religion, race, politics and information to control and divide the masses.

The good ones try to wake up and unite the masses as to what's going on. If more people knew this I believe we could all live in harmony.

@SUD123456:

Agreed, people just Have to have the will to do it, which ain't to hard to do for SMART people.

I don't think it works, a nation needs social glues to work.

Yes, in a melting pot. Multiculturalism just encourages cultural segregation.

Canada is proof of this in action. All these insular communities that can barely communicate with outsiders sending hard-earned money back to their home countries.

so mean

I think its fine. I am a white and I live in Houston Texas which is only 25% non Hispanic white (Source) I see people of different races, ethnicity , and political views all the time. Its actually quite interesting living around such diverse groups of people.

I have lived in other parts of the south and I have seen some close minded rednecks, but even they are starting to become more open minded. For example the governor of Louisiana and South Carolina are both Asian Indian American (though I hate with their policies), some senators and representatives from the south are black and Mexican. Our New Texas governor, Greg Abbott (though again, I disagree with him) has a multicultural family. Its good to see the south change and become more open minded.

It is, you just haven't read the Quran.

On-Topic: It's fine I guess.

It doesn't work period.

@emil_fontz: Multicultural societies can coexist. indefinitely coexisting peacefully however is practically impossible. Heck it won't even work if you put like-minded individuals together. Sooner or later people will always find something to hate about each other...cultural differences or not.

Maybe the world of modern Iran and a few other countries. The rest of the world? No so much.

I would like to enlighten you with the fact that 80% of the Muslims do not even read the Quran. And by reading, I mean to say "Understanding" because most of the Muslims just skim through the Arabic scripture and never try to understand the meaning. It's just the same as with the modern day Christians.

@lostrib: Why do I seem like a terrible person? Also, why do you think I'm a terrible poster? No one else is complaining about my quality as a poster in this thread.

I think America is AMiricle, because we can live together in relative harmony. It can work for us, but I don't think it will work many places. Let other places be what they are and don't push it on the whole world.

@emil_fontz: that whole rapeland thing, bragging about torturing animals, siding with that guy who shot people in Santa Barbara, etc.

As for your posting, there's all the times you used OT and SW to advertise your YouTube crap, when you quit GS as BRHD and then returned under this account (by spamming your YouTube), then there's the disturbing content of your posts and what seems to be a general lack of facts/evidence or willful twisting of facts.

@top_lel:

I totally agree and I think that's the biggest problem(as with most religions) with Christianity and Islam.

Most of the people who practice these religions can easily be misled from the truth if they have a leader or teacher who is corrupt.

Having declared multiculturalism a failure, British PM David Cameron has called for immigrants to concentrate on integration.

He's even planning to further this cause by opening special camps for them to concentrate in.

and that's basically where the terrorists come from; improper knowledge of their own religion.

If only, everyone could see that....

Concentration camps, huh? That reminds me of Nazi Germany. I know that's not the case in Britain, but with your wording, I couldn't help but think it. :P

I also heard the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, call multiculturalism a failure in Germany. It seems to be an inevitable failure when you let in hundreds of thousands to millions of foreigners into your country in a relatively short amount of time without successfully integrating most of the them.

Multiculturalism or monoculturalism can work and can fail. Japan had closed borders for thousands of years and warred with themselves. China, Tiananmen Square, people from a same culture disagreed with their government and were slaughtered. Everything has the potential to fail, so why bother with any of it.

US's recent behavior proves that multiculturalism does not work? I look at the big picture. As time marches on, from its's birth, the US has become more integrated and has pushed for greater equality for all of it's citizens. It is not perfect, but we have devoted citizens dedicated to see a change in that direction. As for Liberal and Conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, to me this has more to do with politics. They represent more the wants of the people, rather than their cultural beliefs. Both sides currently have people from every culture. But when they came to be, they both were filled with white men and they still fought with each other.

The US wasn't built to be multicultural. They slaughtered the natives, blacks were property, Chinese were a cheap labor force to build their railroads, white women were second class citizens. But as time moved forward, each of those wounds have been tended to through the blood and sacrifice of those that would see us be great.

As for Mike Brown; this current situation does not prove that a multicultural society fails, it just shows that some wounds have yet to heal in the US and that we still have lingering issues that need to be resolved.

The USA is one of the youngest countries in the world and it's multiculturalism is even younger still. Regardless of that, they have still managed to become the most powerful country in the world. That doesn't seem like a receipt for failure to me.

Nice post.

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the totality of Toronto's ethnic tension can be summarized by the most activist muslims and most activist jews at york hating each other?

Hell yeah, and a few rounds of drinks to go along with that!!! lol....seriously great post!!!

I'm completely down for some drinks! But these cookies might need some milk. (eating cookies in virtual and real-life... yeah... I live dangerously)

the cow's on its way

I have to say that Arab/jewish conflict is the most tragic one of all and is the perfect example of misleading( not all)teachers! Because those who know the origins of both groups know that they share a DIRECT common ancestor.

If more people who practice these beliefs did their historical homework, they would recognize that the conflict has been misinterpreted by many so-called scholars.

@verbalfilth:

California, Maryland, Hawaii and Texas are all very multicultural U.S states with millions of people of all different races in them. They have their problems, but overall they are doing just fine. They are much better to live in than Ukraine, Russia, China, Etopia or India, and Maryland has the highest median income of any U.S state (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income ) and its only about 50% white.

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@DaX_Factor said:

@MarcRecon said:

@gamerguru100 said:

Nice post.

Here, have a couple cookies.

*gives cookies*

Hell yeah, and a few rounds of drinks to go along with that!!! lol....seriously great post!!!

I'm completely down for some drinks! But these cookies might need some milk. (eating cookies in virtual and real-life... yeah... I live dangerously)

the cow's on its way

Ahh! Nothing beats fresh milk straight from the udder!

That's got nothing to do with what I said.

Though you are right about Muslims and Christians not taking their scripture seriously in some cases.