What do you think about ron paul?

I agree with a few of his issues but overall he is too extreme and if people think Obama is destroying the country honestly the risk of electing Ron Paul would be big

fueled-system

[QUOTE="BMD004"] Ron Paul advocates sound money.-Sun_Tzu-

I agree, but the euro is doing great. It's worked out great for the Eu, just not for the few countries that went broke and that wasn't the euro's fault. Overall the euro is pretty steady currency. .6 dollars to a euro and it's been like that for a while.

I think that he is genuine and sticks to his beliefs. My personal view is that he has a lot of good ideas, but many of his policies would never work in the real world. If he ever got elected, he would probably lose his re-election by a landslide when people caught on to the fact that his policies simply don't work as well in action as they do on paper.

I have a good deal of respect for Ron Paul because he calls himself a small-government libertarian and for the most part he actually is, unlike many of his Republican and Tea Party colleagues.

That being said I still disagree with a good deal of his policies and some of the more biggoted remarks he's made in the past make me uncomfortable.

Homophobia is probably the biggest turn off for me.

I wont support any politician that doesnt support equal rights such as same-sex marriage.

I like him and yet he is unelectable.

At least he's not Rand Paul.

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He raised him.

At least he's not Rand Paul.

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He raised him.

T_P_O

[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

At least he's not Rand Paul.

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He raised him.

Serraph105

I like him and respect him because I think he is a pretty consistent libertarian and he is not nearly as hypocritical as most of the other Republican candidates. And I really like his foreign policy, but I don't think I'd ever vote for him since he has too much faith in the free market and his economic policies and some other libertarian policies (legalizing heroin for example) are too extreme. Commander-Gree

who the f*** came up with the idea of legalizing heroine? I do want pot to be legal because it's more healty then tobacco and shouldn't be illegal, but heroine? Thet s*** messes you up!

He is the western equivalent of the Taliban.

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]I like him and respect him because I think he is a pretty consistent libertarian and he is not nearly as hypocritical as most of the other Republican candidates. And I really like his foreign policy, but I don't think I'd ever vote for him since he has too much faith in the free market and his economic policies and some other libertarian policies (legalizing heroin for example) are too extreme. Flavorysoup

who the f*** came up with the idea of legalizing heroine? I do want pot to be legal because it's more healty then tobacco and shouldn't be illegal, but heroine? Thet s*** messes you up!

Its not as outlandish as it sounds. The idea behind legalizing hardcore drugs is that it would be far cheaper and effective to simply fund rehabilitation centers and prevention programs than it would be to outlaw it.

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]I like him and respect him because I think he is a pretty consistent libertarian and he is not nearly as hypocritical as most of the other Republican candidates. And I really like his foreign policy, but I don't think I'd ever vote for him since he has too much faith in the free market and his economic policies and some other libertarian policies (legalizing heroin for example) are too extreme. Flavorysoup

who the f*** came up with the idea of legalizing heroine? I do want pot to be legal because it's more healty then tobacco and shouldn't be illegal, but heroine? Thet s*** messes you up!

He is my first pick. Perfect man for the times.

I like him, but there is no way he will get elected.

He is the only one I will be voting for. Probably the most influential person in my life. A true role model.

Being against gay marriage does not make you a homophobe. Ron Paul believes that the government ultimately should have no role in marriage. And I have to agree...government legislated marriage does more harm to society than good.

Being against gay marriage does not make you a homophobe. Ron Paul believes that the government ultimately should have no role in marriage. And I have to agree...government legislated marriage does more harm to society than good.

espoac

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]I like him and respect him because I think he is a pretty consistent libertarian and he is not nearly as hypocritical as most of the other Republican candidates. And I really like his foreign policy, but I don't think I'd ever vote for him since he has too much faith in the free market and his economic policies and some other libertarian policies (legalizing heroin for example) are too extreme. Flavorysoup

who the f*** came up with the idea of legalizing heroine? I do want pot to be legal because it's more healty then tobacco and shouldn't be illegal, but heroine? Thet s*** messes you up!

[QUOTE="Flavorysoup"]

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]I like him and respect him because I think he is a pretty consistent libertarian and he is not nearly as hypocritical as most of the other Republican candidates. And I really like his foreign policy, but I don't think I'd ever vote for him since he has too much faith in the free market and his economic policies and some other libertarian policies (legalizing heroin for example) are too extreme. dkdk999

who the f*** came up with the idea of legalizing heroine? I do want pot to be legal because it's more healty then tobacco and shouldn't be illegal, but heroine? Thet s*** messes you up!

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]I like him and respect him because I think he is a pretty consistent libertarian and he is not nearly as hypocritical as most of the other Republican candidates. And I really like his foreign policy, but I don't think I'd ever vote for him since he has too much faith in the free market and his economic policies and some other libertarian policies (legalizing heroin for example) are too extreme. Flavorysoup

who the f*** came up with the idea of legalizing heroine? I do want pot to be legal because it's more healty then tobacco and shouldn't be illegal, but heroine? Thet s*** messes you up!

Yet oxycontin remains legal. Controlled yes, but legal nontheless.

[QUOTE="Flavorysoup"]

who the f*** came up with the idea of legalizing heroine? I do want pot to be legal because it's more healty then tobacco and shouldn't be illegal, but heroine? Thet s*** messes you up!

dkdk999

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="dkdk999"] libertarians don't believe that because they think heroine is fine. Libertarians think the war on drugs is SPREADS drug use rather than getting rid of it. So legalizing heroine is even more important in my mind.

chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] and who told you this?surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] and who told you this?surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Most people (such as myself) who support legalizing hard drugs do so for economic reasons, not because we don't think it's harmful. Heroine is terrible for you, but I still think it should be legal.KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] and who told you this?surrealnumber5

I didn't know libertarians supported it on moral grounds actually, thought it was entirely based on economic grounds (where there are very solid reasons for drug legalization, but not because it would reduce the use). Although when I think about it, it makes sense that libertarians support drug legalization for moral reasons.

I'd say your assessment of me is more or less right (not libertarian, some libertarian leanings, then those leanings are combined oddly with some Keynesian leanings to make an hilariously odd economic philosophy).

Needs to be more far to the right if he wants to win the nomination.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Most people (such as myself) who support legalizing hard drugs do so for economic reasons, not because we don't think it's harmful. Heroine is terrible for you, but I still think it should be legal.chessmaster1989

I didn't know libertarians supported it on moral grounds actually, thought it was entirely based on economic grounds (where there are very solid reasons for drug legalization, but not because it would reduce the use). Although when I think about it, it makes sense that libertarians support drug legalization for moral reasons.

I'd say your assessment of me is more or less right (not libertarian, some libertarian leanings, then those leanings are combined oddly with some Keynesian leanings to make an hilariously odd economic philosophy).

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] most libertarians i know dont want drugs legal because it would reduce the use(it may or may not), they want it on moral grounds. i doubt youre a libertarian, but i dont doubt you have some libertarian leanings.

surrealnumber5

I didn't know libertarians supported it on moral grounds actually, thought it was entirely based on economic grounds (where there are very solid reasons for drug legalization, but not because it would reduce the use). Although when I think about it, it makes sense that libertarians support drug legalization for moral reasons.

I'd say your assessment of me is more or less right (not libertarian, some libertarian leanings, then those leanings are combined oddly with some Keynesian leanings to make an hilariously odd economic philosophy).

Ron Paul would be president if 15-19 year old maleshad their say.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I didn't know libertarians supported it on moral grounds actually, thought it was entirely based on economic grounds (where there are very solid reasons for drug legalization, but not because it would reduce the use). Although when I think about it, it makes sense that libertarians support drug legalization for moral reasons.

I'd say your assessment of me is more or less right (not libertarian, some libertarian leanings, then those leanings are combined oddly with some Keynesian leanings to make an hilariously odd economic philosophy).

chessmaster1989

also lack of a model does not mean a theory can not have mathematical evidence to back it.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Most people (such as myself) who support legalizing hard drugs do so for economic reasons, not because we don't think it's harmful. Heroine is terrible for you, but I still think it should be legal.dkdk999

While I'm not a Libertarian it seems to me that most oppose the criminalization of drugs because what one choooses to put into his/her body should be of no concern of the state's. That there are practical reasons to be opposed only amplifies the argument.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] we all start somewhere and i spent a few years in your shoes, i was a hard core Keynesian in my early studies when i was a pure math major, i still love mathematical models but that does not mean i still find them applicable to real world situations. today in economics i prefer the non-mathematical approach to economics known as praxiology. i still appreciate the work done by those who try to quantify human action, and if there happens to be a model that works in the real world i will give it a good look, as good as the skeptic i am can. off topic: i just got me CFP, not that it has anything to do with my career or this topic but i did tell you i was going for it.

surrealnumber5

also lack of a model does not mean a theory can not have mathematical evidence to back it.

Ron Paul is the only candidate that isn't a puppet in my opinion. The media is clearly afraid of him, they attempt to label him as a 'lunatic' or they just do not bother mentioning him. Look at the polls, the majority believe that Ron Paul won the last debate. Fox News even removed the poll from the front page of their site when they didn't like the results (Ron Paul was winning). It is a clear example of biased media.

If people would take the time to listen to him and do some research, they might reach the same epiphany that I did. I was in favor of Obama last race, but that was an enormous mistake. I initially believed that Ron Paul was crazy, just like the media portrayed him as. However, when I watched the debates, I realized how much sense he made and how much I agree with him. I did some research and he is truly the most honest and consistent candidate, which you cannot say about any of the others. He seems to truly care about Americans. The last debate cemented my vote for him. The other candidates are status quo.

Look at this link: http://www.topix.com/issue/gop-debate-aug11

If you look at it in state view, all of America is for Ron Paul.

Needs to be more far to the right if he wants to win the nomination.

DroidPhysX

You are right when it comes to social issues. In some ways he is ultra conservative, in others he is ultra liberal.

Ron Paul would be president if 15-19 year old maleshad their say.

sonicare

you know there may be some merit in that claim, and it also could explain why he doesn't do that well. Young people tend to vote democrat which would means that if his base is mostly young adults it will still be smaller than the democrats whose base lies in the younger crowds.

He's simply appealing to the wrong demographic of republican voters to ever do very well in a presidential race.

[QUOTE="espoac"]

Being against gay marriage does not make you a homophobe. Ron Paul believes that the government ultimately should have no role in marriage. And I have to agree...government legislated marriage does more harm to society than good.

surrealnumber5

I believe that if we're taking marriage out of the govornments hands is infair to the people who are of the same sex and want to get marries, because in most cases a state makes gay marriage illegal, and people aginst it HAVE to take it up to the supreme court to get it repealed. If ron pul had his way, this couldn't happen. If we are going to say that govornment has no role in marriage, then we have to say that state doesn't either. Niether the govornment NOR the state should have the right to tell you that you can't marry the person you want to.