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#51 SIapshot
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[QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="numismatic"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

The funny thing here is, America was founded as a White nation. It's right there in the naturalization act of 1790. Immigrants are restricted to "free white persons of good moral character".

numismatic

Um, where in the constitution does it say this? The founding fathers left the cornerstone documenation vague enough to be inclusive. Immigration acts in the U.S. have been anything but especially taking into account the chinese exclusion acts of the late 19th century but immigration acts are not the foundations of this great nation of ours.

He never said it was in the constitution

That was my point, our laws aren't made in regards to immigration acts they are made according to the constitution.

:lol: I love it when people like you call people like me ignorant.
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#52 PannicAtack
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You read stormfront.:|

I am against racism dude. Period.

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Exactly this. >_>
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#53 -Austin-
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[QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

The funny thing here is, America was founded as a White nation. It's right there in the naturalization act of 1790. Immigrants are restricted to "free white persons of good moral character".

SIapshot

Ok David Duke :roll:

A peice of legislation from the 1700s has obviously been updated. Limiting the race of immigrants is clearly an outdated concept.

Much to our benefit... link

What are you trying to prove? I think the border needs to be secured too. But I have no problem with any races. If a Mexican citizen goes through the due process and becomes a citizen thats great.

You posting that link, leads me to think that you are racist. Seeing as you linked me to a racist website.....

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#54 numismatic
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[QUOTE="numismatic"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="numismatic"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

The funny thing here is, America was founded as a White nation. It's right there in the naturalization act of 1790. Immigrants are restricted to "free white persons of good moral character".

SIapshot

Um, where in the constitution does it say this? The founding fathers left the cornerstone documenation vague enough to be inclusive. Immigration acts in the U.S. have been anything but especially taking into account the chinese exclusion acts of the late 19th century but immigration acts are not the foundations of this great nation of ours.

He never said it was in the constitution

That was my point, our laws aren't made in regards to immigration acts they are made according to the constitution.

:lol: I love it when people like you call people like me ignorant.

Prescient? I don't see where I called you ignorant,but feel free to project your insecurities and negative image of yourself onto me. Je suis un tabula rasa.

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#55 SIapshot
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="numismatic"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="numismatic"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

The funny thing here is, America was founded as a White nation. It's right there in the naturalization act of 1790. Immigrants are restricted to "free white persons of good moral character".

numismatic

Um, where in the constitution does it say this? The founding fathers left the cornerstone documenation vague enough to be inclusive. Immigration acts in the U.S. have been anything but especially taking into account the chinese exclusion acts of the late 19th century but immigration acts are not the foundations of this great nation of ours.

He never said it was in the constitution

That was my point, our laws aren't made in regards to immigration acts they are made according to the constitution.

:lol: I love it when people like you call people like me ignorant.

Prescient? I don't see where I called you ignorant,but feel free to project your insecurities and negative image of yourself onto me. Je suis un tabula rasa.

You didn't call me ignorant (talk about projecting). Try one of those classes called English. They teach you how to read as well as speak.
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#56 numismatic
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[QUOTE="numismatic"][QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="numismatic"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="numismatic"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

The funny thing here is, America was founded as a White nation. It's right there in the naturalization act of 1790. Immigrants are restricted to "free white persons of good moral character".

SIapshot

Um, where in the constitution does it say this? The founding fathers left the cornerstone documenation vague enough to be inclusive. Immigration acts in the U.S. have been anything but especially taking into account the chinese exclusion acts of the late 19th century but immigration acts are not the foundations of this great nation of ours.

He never said it was in the constitution

That was my point, our laws aren't made in regards to immigration acts they are made according to the constitution.

:lol: I love it when people like you call people like me ignorant.

Prescient? I don't see where I called you ignorant,but feel free to project your insecurities and negative image of yourself onto me. Je suis un tabula rasa.

You didn't call me ignorant (talk about projecting). Try one of those classes called English. They teach you how to read as well as speak.

where specifically did I say ignorant? Point that out, since you are so in favour of evidence.

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#57 SIapshot
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="numismatic"][QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="numismatic"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="numismatic"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

The funny thing here is, America was founded as a White nation. It's right there in the naturalization act of 1790. Immigrants are restricted to "free white persons of good moral character".

numismatic

Um, where in the constitution does it say this? The founding fathers left the cornerstone documenation vague enough to be inclusive. Immigration acts in the U.S. have been anything but especially taking into account the chinese exclusion acts of the late 19th century but immigration acts are not the foundations of this great nation of ours.

He never said it was in the constitution

That was my point, our laws aren't made in regards to immigration acts they are made according to the constitution.

:lol: I love it when people like you call people like me ignorant.

Prescient? I don't see where I called you ignorant,but feel free to project your insecurities and negative image of yourself onto me. Je suis un tabula rasa.

You didn't call me ignorant (talk about projecting). Try one of those classes called English. They teach you how to read as well as speak.

where specifically did I say ignorant? Point that out, since you are so in favour of evidence.

*sigh*

You didn't even utter the word "ignorant". My statement was a jab at the ignorance of people who call racists ignorant.

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#58 SIapshot
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

The funny thing here is, America was founded as a White nation. It's right there in the naturalization act of 1790. Immigrants are restricted to "free white persons of good moral character".

-Austin-

Ok David Duke :roll:

A peice of legislation from the 1700s has obviously been updated. Limiting the race of immigrants is clearly an outdated concept.

Much to our benefit... link

What are you trying to prove? I think the border needs to be secured too. But I have no problem with any races. If a Mexican citizen goes through the due process and becomes a citizen thats great.

You posting that link, leads me to think that you are racist. Seeing as you linked me to a racist website.....

That website is not racist. They simply document the victims of illegal immigrants. However, your brilliant deduction on my social beliefs is right on the money. ;)

LOL @ the intolerance in this thread.

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#59 numismatic
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I am glad that you've cleared the air that I did not impugn you by calling you ignorant. Although, I disagree with your believes or what can be glimpsed about it from the few disturbing statements you've made in this thread, I in no way conform to your characterization of me. I realize it is utterly pointless to argue over the internet with people with pretty much entrenched believes. Just do me a favour if you are going to respond to this post. I want you to look around and check the made in tags of the clothes you are wearing and the monitor that you are using. If you believe in race separation or the need to defend it or Anglo-American isolationism and superiority does the clothes on your back and the screen that allows you to connect to the world reflect your believes?
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#60 SIapshot
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I am glad that you've cleared the air that I did not impugn you by calling you ignorant. Although, I disagree with your believes or what can be glimpsed about it from the few disturbing statements you've made in this thread, I in no way conform to your characterization of me. I realize it is utterly pointless to argue over the internet with people with pretty much entrenched believes. Just do me a favour if you are going to respond to this post. I want you to look around and check the made in tags of the clothes you are wearing and the monitor that you are using. If you believe in race separation or the need to defend it or Anglo-American isolationism and superiority does the clothes on your back and the screen that allows you to connect to the world reflect your believes?numismatic
Even the most basic White Nationalist beliefs call for inter-cultural trade and relations. I strongly suggest that you educate yourself on the subjects you are trying to belittle
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#61 numismatic
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[QUOTE="numismatic"]I am glad that you've cleared the air that I did not impugn you by calling you ignorant. Although, I disagree with your believes or what can be glimpsed about it from the few disturbing statements you've made in this thread, I in no way conform to your characterization of me. I realize it is utterly pointless to argue over the internet with people with pretty much entrenched believes. Just do me a favour if you are going to respond to this post. I want you to look around and check the made in tags of the clothes you are wearing and the monitor that you are using. If you believe in race separation or the need to defend it or Anglo-American isolationism and superiority does the clothes on your back and the screen that allows you to connect to the world reflect your believes?SIapshot
Even the most basic White Nationalist beliefs call for inter-cultural trade and relations. I strongly suggest that you educate yourself on the subjects you are trying to belittle

Then that just make them hypocritical idiots.

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#62 mistervengeance
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racism is a way for leaders to excite their people against a common enemy, it's a way for them to maintain power.
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#63 Tolwan
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It's just a bigoted and ignorant view in my opinion.

In the words of a motivational poster in my former RE class: 'We're all part of the same race: the human race.'

X4D

I totally agree. Racism sucks. Race has little meaning biologically. It's a social construct. Genetic variation between humans is very small.

As a matter of fact, Genetic Variation between humans is smaller by 10 times than it should be. Most species of the past had great genetic variation, however because of a great huge natural disaster that wiped out over 90% of the human race, we are all now descendants of a small group of humans from the North African region. The Genetic difference between two of any humans is roughly 1% if i recall.

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#64 SIapshot
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="numismatic"]I am glad that you've cleared the air that I did not impugn you by calling you ignorant. Although, I disagree with your believes or what can be glimpsed about it from the few disturbing statements you've made in this thread, I in no way conform to your characterization of me. I realize it is utterly pointless to argue over the internet with people with pretty much entrenched believes. Just do me a favour if you are going to respond to this post. I want you to look around and check the made in tags of the clothes you are wearing and the monitor that you are using. If you believe in race separation or the need to defend it or Anglo-American isolationism and superiority does the clothes on your back and the screen that allows you to connect to the world reflect your believes?numismatic

Even the most basic White Nationalist beliefs call for inter-cultural trade and relations. I strongly suggest that you educate yourself on the subjects you are trying to belittle

Then that just make them hypocritical idiots.

And belittling a belief that you know nothing about is what? ...

White Nationalists by and large recognize Asians as the most intelligent race on the planet. In fact, Japan has most, if not all of the immigration laws that we would like to adopt. Japan has been (and still remains, for the most part) isolationist in her immigration policies. Isreal actually states that you must be at least 1/4 Jewish in order to become an Isreali citizen, yet the ADL regularly protests and challenges US laws and policy while ignoring their own brethren's blatant nationalism. Why is it OK for every other race on the planet to be Nationalist except White?

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#65 SIapshot
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[QUOTE="X4D"][QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]

It's just a bigoted and ignorant view in my opinion.

In the words of a motivational poster in my former RE class: 'We're all part of the same race: the human race.'

Tolwan

I totally agree. Racism sucks. Race has little meaning biologically. It's a social construct. Genetic variation between humans is very small.

As a matter of fact, Genetic Variation between humans is smaller by 10 times than it should be. Most species of the past had great genetic variation, however because of a great huge natural disaster that wiped out over 90% of the human race, we are all now descendants of a small group of humans from the North African region. The Genetic difference between two of any humans is roughly 1% if i recall.

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#66 Lab392
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Any type of racial seperatism is stupid.
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#67 numismatic
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And don't you think that the citizens of those nations decry their racist policies? I would like to congratulate you on having a college degree. But more to the point for the 70s until the 90s The U.N. decried Israel's policy which you allude to as Racist. Japanese people returning to Japan from Brazil decry the racist and nationalist views of Japan. But why are those countries allowed to be nationalistic? well because their believes are based on the ideas of nationhood not racehood. It doesn't matter to the Israelis if you are black, white, or asian. What matters is that you are jewish or have jewish ancestry. Yes, there are black and asian Israeli citizens. Hell, ethnic chinese, Koreans, et al are looked at as outsiders in Japan not on the basis of race but on nationality. You twisted ideology isn't nationalistic, it is racist. Again I congratulate you on having a college degree.
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Any type of racial seperatism is stupid.Lab392

It's not only stupid, it's evil. God created all men equal, yet some people refuse to acknowledge that.

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#69 Meyer1100
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Racism stinks. I don't get how some humans treat other humans like they are aliens or something.
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And don't you think that the citizens of those nations decry their racist policies? I would like to congratulate you on having a college degree. But more to the point for the 70s until the 90s The U.N. decried Israel's policy which you allude to as Racist. Japanese people returning to Japan from Brazil decry the racist and nationalist views of Japan. But why are those countries allowed to be nationalistic? well because their believes are based on the ideas of nationhood not racehood. It doesn't matter to the Israelis if you are black, white, or asian. What matters is that you are jewish or have jewish ancestry. Yes, there are black and asian Israeli citizens. Hell, ethnic chinese, Koreans, et al are looked at as outsiders in Japan not on the basis of race but on nationality. You twisted ideology isn't nationalistic, it is racist. Again I congratulate you on having a college degree. numismatic
The UN is hardly an ideological force to be reckoned with, what with their own troubles and such. I literally CAN'T get into the politics behind White Nationalism because there are people here who can't logically argue with them and therefore choose to silence those who would tell the truth by reporting them as "offensive" (read my sig).

Nationalists are racist, get used to it. Just because they discriminate against their own kind doesn't make it any different. NOBODY can become an Isreali citizen without proving some sort of heritage, which is, by definition, a discriminatory practice. Just look at your post. You excuse every type of nationalism except White. There is a pervasive undercurrent of anti-white sentiment in the US (exemplified by your post) and people are reacting to it. Are they wrong? How are they wrong, and by what standards are they wrong?

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[QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

The funny thing here is, America was founded as a White nation. It's right there in the naturalization act of 1790. Immigrants are restricted to "free white persons of good moral character".

SIapshot

Ok David Duke :roll:

A peice of legislation from the 1700s has obviously been updated. Limiting the race of immigrants is clearly an outdated concept.

Much to our benefit... link

What are you trying to prove? I think the border needs to be secured too. But I have no problem with any races. If a Mexican citizen goes through the due process and becomes a citizen thats great.

You posting that link, leads me to think that you are racist. Seeing as you linked me to a racist website.....

That website is not racist. They simply document the victims of illegal immigrants. However, your brilliant deduction on my social beliefs is right on the money. ;)

LOL @ the intolerance in this thread.

Obviously the website is racist. It clearly is biased against Hispanics.

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#72 numismatic
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So I took the time to read that obtuse article that was designed for geneticist and scientist in general rather than lay person and it mentions nothing about race separation. The copy number variants that they were investigating were done according to race clusters by population in Africa, America, and Japan. This new study shows that the variants between these three population groups was less than 0.11 on a scale from 0 to 1. Clearly the article you keep posting doesn't even support your racist claims and it rather undermines it. hahaha.
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#73 numismatic
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[QUOTE="numismatic"]And don't you think that the citizens of those nations decry their racist policies? I would like to congratulate you on having a college degree. But more to the point for the 70s until the 90s The U.N. decried Israel's policy which you allude to as Racist. Japanese people returning to Japan from Brazil decry the racist and nationalist views of Japan. But why are those countries allowed to be nationalistic? well because their believes are based on the ideas of nationhood not racehood. It doesn't matter to the Israelis if you are black, white, or asian. What matters is that you are jewish or have jewish ancestry. Yes, there are black and asian Israeli citizens. Hell, ethnic chinese, Koreans, et al are looked at as outsiders in Japan not on the basis of race but on nationality. You twisted ideology isn't nationalistic, it is racist. Again I congratulate you on having a college degree. SIapshot

The UN is hardly an ideological force to be reckoned with, what with their own troubles and such. I literally CAN'T get into the politics behind White Nationalism because there are people here who can't logically argue with them and therefore choose to silence those who would tell the truth by reporting them as "offensive" (read my sig).

Nationalists are racist, get used to it. Just because they discriminate against their own kind doesn't make it any different. NOBODY can become an Isreali citizen without proving some sort of heritage, which is, by definition, a discriminatory practice. Just look at your post. You excuse every type of nationalism except White. There is a pervasive undercurrent of anti-white sentiment in the US (exemplified by your post) and people are reacting to it. Are they wrong? How are they wrong, and by what standards are they wrong?

Anti-white sentiment? White people make up the majority of the population of the United States. What in my post is anti white? I am anti racists like you. There is a difference between nationalism and racism, although that is often blurred by people like you. You said that no one decried the racist practices of those nations that you mention and I proved you wrong. You are running out of straws to grasp.

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The mods say I wouldn't get so many nose bleeds if I kept my finger out of there...

Anyways, the human mind is very complex, currently however, there has been no linkage of intelligence to skin colour as of yet. Just because the MAJORITY of white people are smarter than black people it certainly does not mean black people are stupid.

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So I took the time to read that obtuse article that was designed for geneticist and scientist in general rather than lay person and it mentions nothing about race separation. The copy number variants that they were investigating were done according to race clusters by population in Africa, America, and Japan. This new study shows that the variants between these three population groups was less than 0.11 on a scale from 0 to 1. Clearly the article you keep posting doesn't even support your racist claims and it rather undermines it. hahaha. numismatic
*sigh*

I'm glad that this research has enlightened you, however, you are mistaken in your assumption that this article "undermines" my points. If you can recall just a few minutes ago, the claim was that there are no biological justifications for the classification of humans beyond species. I provided a link that proves the opposite. Humans can be traced back to their regional genetic roots by their DNA alone.

This is called a counterargument, which is actually backed up with a source. Something that is seriously lacking in this thread.

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[QUOTE="Lab392"]Any type of racial seperatism is stupid.X4D

It's not only stupid, it's evil. God created all men equal, yet some people refuse to acknowledge that.

actually god created the jews above everyone else.

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[QUOTE="SIapshot"]

[QUOTE="numismatic"]And don't you think that the citizens of those nations decry their racist policies? I would like to congratulate you on having a college degree. But more to the point for the 70s until the 90s The U.N. decried Israel's policy which you allude to as Racist. Japanese people returning to Japan from Brazil decry the racist and nationalist views of Japan. But why are those countries allowed to be nationalistic? well because their believes are based on the ideas of nationhood not racehood. It doesn't matter to the Israelis if you are black, white, or asian. What matters is that you are jewish or have jewish ancestry. Yes, there are black and asian Israeli citizens. Hell, ethnic chinese, Koreans, et al are looked at as outsiders in Japan not on the basis of race but on nationality. You twisted ideology isn't nationalistic, it is racist. Again I congratulate you on having a college degree. numismatic

The UN is hardly an ideological force to be reckoned with, what with their own troubles and such. I literally CAN'T get into the politics behind White Nationalism because there are people here who can't logically argue with them and therefore choose to silence those who would tell the truth by reporting them as "offensive" (read my sig).

Nationalists are racist, get used to it. Just because they discriminate against their own kind doesn't make it any different. NOBODY can become an Isreali citizen without proving some sort of heritage, which is, by definition, a discriminatory practice. Just look at your post. You excuse every type of nationalism except White. There is a pervasive undercurrent of anti-white sentiment in the US (exemplified by your post) and people are reacting to it. Are they wrong? How are they wrong, and by what standards are they wrong?

Anti-white sentiment? White people make up the majority of the population of the United States. What in my post is anti white? I am anti racists like you. There is a difference between nationalism and racism, although that is often blurred by people like you. You said that no one decried the racist practices of those nations that you mention and I proved you wrong. You are running out of straws to grasp.

Do I have to explain EVERYTHING TO YOU? Your noticible lack of excuses for White Nationalism while excusing every other type of racism is ... what did you call it? ... hypocritical.
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#78 numismatic
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[QUOTE="numismatic"]So I took the time to read that obtuse article that was designed for geneticist and scientist in general rather than lay person and it mentions nothing about race separation. The copy number variants that they were investigating were done according to race clusters by population in Africa, America, and Japan. This new study shows that the variants between these three population groups was less than 0.11 on a scale from 0 to 1. Clearly the article you keep posting doesn't even support your racist claims and it rather undermines it. hahaha. SIapshot

*sigh*

I'm glad that this research has enlightened you, however, you are mistaken in your assumption that this article "undermines" my points. If you can recall just a few minutes ago, the claim was that there are no biological justifications for the classification of humans beyond species. I provided a link that proves the opposite. Humans can be traced back to their regional genetic roots by their DNA alone.

This is called a counterargument, which is actually backed up with a source. Something that is seriously lacking in this thread.

But you proved the other guy's point, that the variation between humans is small. And that article proved that it really is small. Hell CNV has nothing to do with genes as they are mostly found outside of genes but they have adverse and postiive effects on genes. That article didn't dwell on race and you didn't prove the other guys argument wrong at all. If anything you proved that race isn't totally a social construct a point which was incidental to his central premise that race variation on the genetic level is negligible. Stop owning yourself. It is quite embarassing.

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The mods say I wouldn't get so many nose bleeds if I kept my finger out of there...

Anyways, the human mind is very complex, currently however, there has been no linkage of intelligence to skin colour as of yet. Just because the MAJORITY of white people are smarter than black people it certainly does not mean black people are stupid.

-R3Vo

The majority of whites are not "smarter" than blacks. It's just that whites have more access to education opportunities, something which blacks don't. Because of this reason whites also have more money than blacks so that they can send their kids to university. In Brazil for example, blacks don't have nearly as many educational opportunities as whites.

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#80 -R3Vo
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[QUOTE="-R3Vo"]

The mods say I wouldn't get so many nose bleeds if I kept my finger out of there...

Anyways, the human mind is very complex, currently however, there has been no linkage of intelligence to skin colour as of yet. Just because the MAJORITY of white people are smarter than black people it certainly does not mean black people are stupid.

X4D

The majority of whites are not "smarter" than blacks. It's just that whites have more access to education opportunities, something which blacks don't. In Brazil for example, blacks don't have nearly as many educational opportunities as whites.

Thanks for proving my point, you obviously don't know how to define intelligence. I don't care whether or not they have opportunities to become intelligent, the fact is, those kinds of people are not. Therefore, the majority is smarter, thanks for coming out though.

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#81 SIapshot
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

The funny thing here is, America was founded as a White nation. It's right there in the naturalization act of 1790. Immigrants are restricted to "free white persons of good moral character".

-Austin-

Ok David Duke :roll:

A peice of legislation from the 1700s has obviously been updated. Limiting the race of immigrants is clearly an outdated concept.

Much to our benefit... link

What are you trying to prove? I think the border needs to be secured too. But I have no problem with any races. If a Mexican citizen goes through the due process and becomes a citizen thats great.

You posting that link, leads me to think that you are racist. Seeing as you linked me to a racist website.....

That website is not racist. They simply document the victims of illegal immigrants. However, your brilliant deduction on my social beliefs is right on the money. ;)

LOL @ the intolerance in this thread.

Obviously the website is racist. It clearly is biased against Hispanics.

In what way is it biased against hispanics? Do they represent the largest group of illegal immigrants in America? If so, then how is it racist to point that out? Don't bother, I already know the answer.... "because they're hispanics, and pointing that out is racist".

Don't bother with a logical, factual counterargument, just appeal to everybody's emotions.

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#82 SIapshot
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"]

[QUOTE="numismatic"]So I took the time to read that obtuse article that was designed for geneticist and scientist in general rather than lay person and it mentions nothing about race separation. The copy number variants that they were investigating were done according to race clusters by population in Africa, America, and Japan. This new study shows that the variants between these three population groups was less than 0.11 on a scale from 0 to 1. Clearly the article you keep posting doesn't even support your racist claims and it rather undermines it. hahaha. numismatic

*sigh*

I'm glad that this research has enlightened you, however, you are mistaken in your assumption that this article "undermines" my points. If you can recall just a few minutes ago, the claim was that there are no biological justifications for the classification of humans beyond species. I provided a link that proves the opposite. Humans can be traced back to their regional genetic roots by their DNA alone.

This is called a counterargument, which is actually backed up with a source. Something that is seriously lacking in this thread.

But you proved the other guy's point, that the variation between humans is small. And that article proved that it really is small. Hell CNV has nothing to do with genes as they are mostly found outside of genes but they have adverse and postiive effects on genes. That article didn't dwell on race and you didn't prove the other guys argument wrong at all. If anything you proved that race isn't totally a social construct a point which was incidental to his central premise that race variation on the genetic level is negligible. Stop owning yourself. It is quite embarassing.

Obviously, you don't even understand what you were reading.

Also, if you think that people get embarassed on internet message boards, then you need to go outside and make some friends.

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#83 numismatic
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You must be dreaming if you think that you can turn America into a whites only country. No one is stopping you from expressing your whites only ideal. Hell there are many countries in Europe that are almost homogenized and the only thing you have to worry about is religion. If you want to express your whitehood you can do it on almost all continent up to west asia. But don't think for once that you are going to hijack America with that philosophy of yours.

Actually I understood it much better than you did. idiot.

Who needs friends when I am going to be making over a 100k in three years guaranteed. I suggest you take your own advice.

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I'm glad that this research has enlightened you, however, you are mistaken in your assumption that this article "undermines" my points. If you can recall just a few minutes ago, the claim was that there are no biological justifications for the classification of humans beyond species. I provided a link that proves the opposite. Humans can be traced back to their regional genetic roots by their DNA alone.

This is called a counterargument, which is actually backed up with a source. Something that is seriously lacking in this thread.

SIapshot

All this proves is that there are regional variations between humans. This doesn't prove the existence of discrete human racial packages. Racism is the belief that humans are divided into discrete and genetically stable racial packages. That's what racism is all about. Pure and simple.

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Considering the reasons that they fear other races are all either false or trivial... I will say that it is stupid.
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We tried it, failed miserably. Not really gonna work.
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Slapshot, there are millions of illegal immigrants, obviously some of the people will be bad people. You seem to be suggesting they are all murderers. Every demographic has bad people in it.
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#88 SIapshot
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You must be dreaming if you think that you can turn America into a whites only country. No one is stopping you from expressing your whites only ideal. Hell there are many countries in Europe that are almost homogenized and the only thing you have to worry about is religion. If you want to express your whitehood you can do it on almost all continent up to west asia. But don't think for once that you are going to hijack America with that philosophy of yours.

Actually I understood it much better than you did. idiot.

Who needs friends when I am going to be making over a 100k in three years guaranteed. I suggest you take your own advice.

numismatic

Are you talking to me? 100k in 3 years? Setting the bar a little low, aren't you?

Who wanted to turn America into a Whites only country?

Please, for the love of science, make a coherent and logical argument for once.

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#89 -Austin-
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[QUOTE="numismatic"]

You must be dreaming if you think that you can turn America into a whites only country. No one is stopping you from expressing your whites only ideal. Hell there are many countries in Europe that are almost homogenized and the only thing you have to worry about is religion. If you want to express your whitehood you can do it on almost all continent up to west asia. But don't think for once that you are going to hijack America with that philosophy of yours.

Actually I understood it much better than you did. idiot.

Who needs friends when I am going to be making over a 100k in three years guaranteed. I suggest you take your own advice.

SIapshot

Are you talking to me? 100k in 3 years? Setting the bar a little low, aren't you?

Who wanted to turn America into a Whites only country?

Please, for the love of science, make a coherent and logical argument for once.

I think he means in 3 years he will have a job that pay 100k a year. I don't see how that came up though.

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#90 numismatic
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[QUOTE="numismatic"]

You must be dreaming if you think that you can turn America into a whites only country. No one is stopping you from expressing your whites only ideal. Hell there are many countries in Europe that are almost homogenized and the only thing you have to worry about is religion. If you want to express your whitehood you can do it on almost all continent up to west asia. But don't think for once that you are going to hijack America with that philosophy of yours.

Actually I understood it much better than you did. idiot.

Who needs friends when I am going to be making over a 100k in three years guaranteed. I suggest you take your own advice.

SIapshot

Are you talking to me? 100k in 3 years? Setting the bar a little low, aren't you?

Who wanted to turn America into a Whites only country?

Please, for the love of science, make a coherent and logical argument for once.

Irony: see slapshot. :D, I enjoy toying with you, I must admit it to be a guilty pleasure. Your frail intellectual capacity makes it all too easy to refute your arguments. That is a lark as it is self-evident by your own posts that you know nothing about science or argumentation. 100k in my mid twenties is a bit low? Sure it is. And how much do you make now or will be making in three years?

[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="numismatic"]

You must be dreaming if you think that you can turn America into a whites only country. No one is stopping you from expressing your whites only ideal. Hell there are many countries in Europe that are almost homogenized and the only thing you have to worry about is religion. If you want to express your whitehood you can do it on almost all continent up to west asia. But don't think for once that you are going to hijack America with that philosophy of yours.

Actually I understood it much better than you did. idiot.

Who needs friends when I am going to be making over a 100k in three years guaranteed. I suggest you take your own advice.

-Austin-

Are you talking to me? 100k in 3 years? Setting the bar a little low, aren't you?

Who wanted to turn America into a Whites only country?

Please, for the love of science, make a coherent and logical argument for once.

I think he means in 3 years he will have a job that pay 100k a year. I don't see how that came up though.

Ever heard of the term Dick Slap?

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#91 -Austin-
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="numismatic"]

You must be dreaming if you think that you can turn America into a whites only country. No one is stopping you from expressing your whites only ideal. Hell there are many countries in Europe that are almost homogenized and the only thing you have to worry about is religion. If you want to express your whitehood you can do it on almost all continent up to west asia. But don't think for once that you are going to hijack America with that philosophy of yours.

Actually I understood it much better than you did. idiot.

Who needs friends when I am going to be making over a 100k in three years guaranteed. I suggest you take your own advice.

numismatic

Are you talking to me? 100k in 3 years? Setting the bar a little low, aren't you?

Who wanted to turn America into a Whites only country?

Please, for the love of science, make a coherent and logical argument for once.

Irony: see slapshot. :D, I enjoy toying with you, I must admit it to be a guilty pleasure. Your frail intellectual capacity makes it all too easy to refute your arguments. That is a lark as it is self-evident by your own posts that you know nothing about science or argumentation. 100k in my mid twenties is a bit low? Sure it is. And how much do you make now or will be making in three years?

[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="numismatic"]

You must be dreaming if you think that you can turn America into a whites only country. No one is stopping you from expressing your whites only ideal. Hell there are many countries in Europe that are almost homogenized and the only thing you have to worry about is religion. If you want to express your whitehood you can do it on almost all continent up to west asia. But don't think for once that you are going to hijack America with that philosophy of yours.

Actually I understood it much better than you did. idiot.

Who needs friends when I am going to be making over a 100k in three years guaranteed. I suggest you take your own advice.

-Austin-

Are you talking to me? 100k in 3 years? Setting the bar a little low, aren't you?

Who wanted to turn America into a Whites only country?

Please, for the love of science, make a coherent and logical argument for once.

I think he means in 3 years he will have a job that pay 100k a year. I don't see how that came up though.

Ever heard of the term Dick Slap?

Mama Numismatic sure has....

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#92 numismatic
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So has papa Austin ;)

Larry David looks to be queuing up for one too. Austin catch you on the flip side. I have to go play with the nonexistent friends that I don't have according to slapshot.:D

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#93 -Austin-
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Larry David looks to be queuing up for one too.

numismatic

:lol: That was a good one

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#94 SIapshot
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Slapshot, there are millions of illegal immigrants, obviously some of the people will be bad people. You seem to be suggesting they are all murderers. Every demographic has bad people in it.-Austin-
I understand that, nobody suggested that White people don't have problems. What I am stating as fact is that race exists on a biological level.

Now, if you want to get into per capita violent crimes by racial category, the Department of Justice and the FBI's uniform crime reports have a slew of information supporting my point of view. However, this discussion has pretty much been about whether or not race exists as a biological construct. If you wish to start another discussion about the per capita rates of violent crimes according to race, I'd be more than happy to oblige. I do ask, that you provide logical arguments and sources, of course. :)

edit: LOGICAL ARGUMENTS AND SOURCES DO NOT INCLUDE WHAT YOU WILL BE MAKING IN 3 YEARS.

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Irony: see slapshot. :D, I enjoy toying with you, I must admit it to be a guilty pleasure. Your frail intellectual capacity makes it all too easy to refute your arguments. That is a lark as it is self-evident by your own posts that you know nothing about science or argumentation. 100k in my mid twenties is a bit low? Sure it is. And how much do you make now or will be making in three years?-Austin-

Speaking of frail intellectual capacities, have you come up with a logical counterargument yet? Maybe a source somewhere? If all you have are ad-hominem attacks against someone you consider to be intellectually inferior, maybe that speaks volumes about your own intellect.

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[QUOTE="-R3Vo"]

The mods say I wouldn't get so many nose bleeds if I kept my finger out of there...

Anyways, the human mind is very complex, currently however, there has been no linkage of intelligence to skin colour as of yet. Just because the MAJORITY of white people are smarter than black people it certainly does not mean black people are stupid.

X4D

The majority of whites are not "smarter" than blacks. It's just that whites have more access to education opportunities, something which blacks don't. Because of this reason whites also have more money than blacks so that they can send their kids to university. In Brazil for example, blacks don't have nearly as many educational opportunities as whites.

i dont know if you noticed but theres schools everywhere. all schools in america can at least give you a basic education.

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Racism is the belief that humans are divided into discrete and genetically stable racial packages. That's what racism is all about. Pure and simple. X4D
No, it's not.
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#98 SIapshot
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The majority of whites are not "smarter" than blacks. It's just that whites have more access to education opportunities, something which blacks don't. Because of this reason whites also have more money than blacks so that they can send their kids to university. In Brazil for example, blacks don't have nearly as many educational opportunities as whites.

X4D

Somebody is stopping black parents from educating their children? Who? Somebody is stopping predominantly black nations from rising above third world status? Who? Whites are the minority in the world, why do we have all the educational opportunities?

What do you call it when people collectively use their intellectual capacity to gain an advantage? Institutional Racism.

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Thanks for proving my point, you obviously don't know how to define intelligence. I don't care whether or not they have opportunities to become intelligent, the fact is, those kinds of people are not. Therefore, the majority is smarter, thanks for coming out though.

-R3Vo

Yes but not all.

Here's a snippet from a site not running at the moment:

The presented information above strongly suggests that African born blacks residing in western countries, as a group may possess IQs that are between 5 points and a full standard deviation (15 IQ points) above that of whites living in these countries (see, Gottfredson, 1998; Ostrowsky, 1999; Richardson, 2002; Cross, 1994; Williams, 2005) – This is especially true for those living in the United States and in the UK. One may also expect to find, according to much of the corroborative literature that relates IQ with education, approximately twice the number of African born immigrants with IQs in the 115 range, than among the general white American population (Gottfredson, 1998; Ostrowsky, 1999; Williams, 2005), and "more" than twice the number of African immigrants in the 125 IQ range (Gottfredson, 1998; The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, 1999-2000).

African Blacks Significantly Exceed Whites in Educational Attainment and Professional Employment

African-born blacks comprise 16 percent of the U.S. foreign-born black population and are considerably more educated than other black immigrants (U.S. Bureau of the Census, 2000). The vast majority of these immigrants come from minority white countries in East and West Africa (e.g. Kenya and Nigeria), and less than 2 percent originate from North or South Africa (World Factbook, 2004; Yearbook of immigration Statistics, 2003). In an analysis of Census Bureau data by the Journal of Blacks in higher education, African immigrants to the United States were found more likely to be college educated than any other immigrant group, which included those from Europe, North America and Asia (also see U.S. Bureau of the Census, 2000). African immigrants have also been shown to be more highly educated than any native-born ethnic group including white and Asian Americans (see also, Logan & Deane, 2003; Williams, 2005; The Economist, 1996; Arthur, 2000; Selassie, 1998).