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#51 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] What the hell?

I'm saying that as drugs go, Ecstacy is relatively safe. And as for clouding the mind', it's not the same as Alcohol. Your not likely to stumble in-front of a car or down some stairs (unless you have taken waaay to much). You retain your motor skills. I'm willing to bet that there have been an incredibley small amount of fights with people on ecstacy as it removes all feelings of aggression and replaces them with a chemical love and trust for everyone.

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Hence, the reason driving under the influence of alchohol is illegal. It's not safe. So we're in agreement...drugs are not safe.:)

Yes...

Neither are cars, bikes, guns, food, knives, dogs, fish, shovels, holes, cows, horses, doors, screwdrivers, rope, wrenches, wood, houses, water...

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#52 DeeJayInphinity
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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]You won't 100% die. People OD usually when they have built up a large tolerance and have suddenly made a jump to a large amount. swizz-the-gamer
How is that not occurring here? I've never tried cocaine, and I don't do drugs at all. Yet, here I am trying cocaine for the first time and I take a dose that my body can't handle. I'm not going to die? Right. :lol:

When did I say that? I said you won't 100% die... Someone I used to go to school with took 10 pills of Ecstasy his first ever time ended up in hospital and almost died. Belive me I know all about overdoses. I was just saying that it's not 100% you would die.

See, if my body can't cope with the amount of cocaine that I take, it will perish. There's no 99% death, there's only death.
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#53 swizz-the-gamer
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A girl died here from ecstacy, one hit, first time, mixed bad chemicaly with her body, she died pretty fast.HybridPhoenix
Link. I'm sure if you research that you will fine there have been a tiny amount of people who have died from Ecstasy like that. Most deaths are caused by drinking too much or too little water.
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#54 Sexy_Pirate
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My dad says that energy drinks are really bad for my heart etc.JC346

They are

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#55 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]You won't 100% die. People OD usually when they have built up a large tolerance and have suddenly made a jump to a large amount. DeeJayInphinity
How is that not occurring here? I've never tried cocaine, and I don't do drugs at all. Yet, here I am trying cocaine for the first time and I take a dose that my body can't handle. I'm not going to die? Right. :lol:

When did I say that? I said you won't 100% die... Someone I used to go to school with took 10 pills of Ecstasy his first ever time ended up in hospital and almost died. Belive me I know all about overdoses. I was just saying that it's not 100% you would die.

See, if my body can't cope with the amount of cocaine that I take, it will perish. There's no 99% death, there's only death.

Oh I see your saying that if you took so much coke you would die you would die. Very useful addition to the conversation
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#56 LJS9502_basic
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Yes...

Neither are cars, bikes, guns, food, knives, dogs, fish, shovels, holes, cows, horses, doors, screwdrivers, rope, wrenches, wood, houses, water...

swizz-the-gamer

Yet....you took the time to argue on only one of these issues. You said ODs don't occur.

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#57 kulmiye
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A girl died here from ecstacy, one hit, first time, mixed bad chemicaly with her body, she died pretty fast.HybridPhoenix

Are you saying she took one ectasy? Sorry if this is being rude.

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#58 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="HybridPhoenix"]A girl died here from ecstacy, one hit, first time, mixed bad chemicaly with her body, she died pretty fast.swizz-the-gamer
Link. I'm sure if you research that you will fine there have been a tiny amount of people who have died from Ecstasy like that. Most deaths are caused by drinking too much or too little water.

No...without the ecstacy the death would NOT have occured. It was the drug.....;)

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#59 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] Yes...

Neither are cars, bikes, guns, food, knives, dogs, fish, shovels, holes, cows, horses, doors, screwdrivers, rope, wrenches, wood, houses, water...

LJS9502_basic

Yet....you took the time to argue on only one of these issues.

Because I believe strongly people should choose what they do. People should not be able to choose which equally dangerous substances they put inside them.
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#60 LJS9502_basic
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Because I believe strongly people should choose what they do. People should not be able to choose which equally dangerous substances they put inside them.
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I've read that three times....what???

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#61 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="HybridPhoenix"]A girl died here from ecstacy, one hit, first time, mixed bad chemicaly with her body, she died pretty fast.LJS9502_basic

Link. I'm sure if you research that you will fine there have been a tiny amount of people who have died from Ecstasy like that. Most deaths are caused by drinking too much or too little water.

No...without the ecstacy the death would NOT have occured. It was the drug.....;)

So...? That's not a very useful attitude to have to drugs.... People will always take them so as much as possible should be done to help them not persecute them.
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#62 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] Because I believe strongly people should choose what they do. People should not be able to choose which equally dangerous substances they put inside them.
LJS9502_basic

I've read that three times....what???

I was simply saying that we shouldn't be able to smoke tobacco and drink alcohol but then be denied the right to do other drugs Pretty simple.
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#63 LJS9502_basic
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So...? That's not a very useful attitude to have to drugs.... People will always take them so as much as possible should be done to help them not persecute them.
swizz-the-gamer

It's called realism. Drugs are dangerous and pretending otherwise doesn't help. It harms....

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#64 EboyLOL
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First option...
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#65 skinnypete91
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You'd have to be drinking a lot of energy drinks for them to have a worse effect than drugs methinks.. although I suppose it depends on the drugs.
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#66 Shiggums
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What do you think is worse for you? Smoking, doing drugs, and drinking way to much alchohol, or drinking energy drinks? My dad keeps saying they are really bad for me but they cant be worse then any of those things.JC346

That's a pretty bad comparison. That's like saying which is worse: Puppies, or a raving lunatic with semi-automatic weapons, on crack, with the ebola virus ready to be released?

Smoking (tobacco), doing drugs (hard drugs, and prescription meds), and drinking way too much is worse than energy drinks, even though all of them are no good for you

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#67 -R3Vo
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My dad says that energy drinks are really bad for my heart etc.JC346

It is bad for your heart; did you know the energy Rockstar, raises and lowers your blood pressure. Playing tug of war with your cardio is never good.

However, I would say drugs are worse; they can prove to be fatal instantly. Energy drinks just take their toll over time.

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#68 kulmiye
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Lets go back to the original question "what do you think is worse for you". Most of you believe drugs correct. Since you are saying that they can kill you first hit right. Well then alcohol can kill you first time plus there are all those issues like drink driving and stuff. Clearly that has got to be the worst.

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#69 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] So...? That's not a very useful attitude to have to drugs.... People will always take them so as much as possible should be done to help them not persecute them.
LJS9502_basic

It's called realism. Drugs are dangerous and pretending otherwise doesn't help. It harms....

I'm not pretending otherwise... Doesn't the 'help them' imply that I know that?
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#70 Ayla0
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Alcohol has taken out half my family and I had major issues with it for a while too.

But the worst is mixing alcohol and energy drinks....I did it a few times and my heart was getting ready to burst. x_x

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#71 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] So...? That's not a very useful attitude to have to drugs.... People will always take them so as much as possible should be done to help them not persecute them.
swizz-the-gamer

It's called realism. Drugs are dangerous and pretending otherwise doesn't help. It harms....

I'm not pretending otherwise... Doesn't the 'help them' imply that I know that?

Then you wouldn't have been downplaying overdoses....which you did.

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#72 DeeJayInphinity
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Oh I see your saying that if you took so much coke you would die you would die. Very useful addition to the conversation
swizz-the-gamer
Yes, that was my argument from the beginning. You can overdose on these drugs, and you can overdose on your first try. You argued against that. :|
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#73 Wilfred_Owen
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You get a kick in the crotch and your herpes blisters pop.
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#74 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] So...? That's not a very useful attitude to have to drugs.... People will always take them so as much as possible should be done to help them not persecute them.
LJS9502_basic

It's called realism. Drugs are dangerous and pretending otherwise doesn't help. It harms....

I'm not pretending otherwise... Doesn't the 'help them' imply that I know that?

Then you wouldn't have been downplaying overdoses....which you did.

I was saying that overdoses are one of the smallest issues to do with drugs yet the most overused in the endless anti drugs campaigns...
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#75 LJS9502_basic
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I was saying that overdoses are one of the smallest issues to do with drugs yet the most overused in the endless anti drugs campaigns...
swizz-the-gamer

No you were arguing against it.:| And for the family that loses someone to it...it's not a "smallest issue".

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#76 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]Oh I see your saying that if you took so much coke you would die you would die. Very useful addition to the conversation
DeeJayInphinity
Yes, that was my argument from the beginning. You can overdose on these drugs, and you can overdose on your first try. You argued against that. :|

I agree... I was saying it's not that much of a problem when compared to other drug issues.
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#77 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] I was saying that overdoses are one of the smallest issues to do with drugs yet the most overused in the endless anti drugs campaigns...
LJS9502_basic

No you were arguing against it.:| And for the family that loses someone to it...it's not a "smallest issue".

I have lost people to overdosing on drugs... What im saying is realistically drug related crime and drug addiction are bigger issues.

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#78 proctorsurf
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A girl died here from ecstacy, one hit, first time, mixed bad chemicaly with her body, she died pretty fast.HybridPhoenix
I wouldn't be surprised it it was cut with something... or it may have well been one of those rare chemical reactions to the drug itself. Either way, statistically alcohol and cigs are far worse for you than X.
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#79 LJS9502_basic
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I have lost people to overdosing on drugs... What im saying is realistically drug related crime and drug addiction are bigger issues.

swizz-the-gamer

That may be...but you still spoke out and defended drug use.

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#80 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]I have lost people to overdosing on drugs... What im saying is realistically drug related crime and drug addiction are bigger issues.

LJS9502_basic

That may be...but you still spoke out and defended drug use.

Yes. I have no problem with drugs taken in moderation and irregularly.
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#81 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="HybridPhoenix"]A girl died here from ecstacy, one hit, first time, mixed bad chemicaly with her body, she died pretty fast.proctorsurf
I wouldn't be surprised it it was cut with something... or it may have well been one of those rare chemical reactions to the drug itself. Either way, statistically alcohol and cigs are far worse for you than X.

Actually in moderation alcohol has health benefits. X...none.

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#82 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="proctorsurf"][QUOTE="HybridPhoenix"]A girl died here from ecstacy, one hit, first time, mixed bad chemicaly with her body, she died pretty fast.LJS9502_basic

I wouldn't be surprised it it was cut with something... or it may have well been one of those rare chemical reactions to the drug itself. Either way, statistically alcohol and cigs are far worse for you than X.

Actually in moderation alcohol has health benefits. X...none.

Fun...? Who drinks alcohol for health benefits? And if you spent 30 seconds googling you will find that X is generally accepted to be less harmful than alcohol.

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#83 NSR34GTR
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alcohol and drugs...one you sucked in its a downward spiral
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#84 quiglythegreat
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Drinking is the worse because it gets you more dysfunctional than anything I know of aside from legitimate disease.
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#85 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="proctorsurf"][QUOTE="HybridPhoenix"]A girl died here from ecstacy, one hit, first time, mixed bad chemicaly with her body, she died pretty fast.swizz-the-gamer

I wouldn't be surprised it it was cut with something... or it may have well been one of those rare chemical reactions to the drug itself. Either way, statistically alcohol and cigs are far worse for you than X.

Actually in moderation alcohol has health benefits. X...none.

Fun...? Who drinks alcohol for health benefits? And if you spent 30 seconds googling you will find that X is generally accepted to be less harmful than alcohol.

Lots of people actually do. Alcohol is not harmful in moderation....so I don't need to google. Only abuse makes it harmful....even water is harmful if abused.;)

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#86 Bourbons3
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Well they're all bad for you, but drugs are probably the worst.
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#87 ferron321
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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] I don't think anyone mentioned "INSTANT" death from drugs. :|kulmiye

People don't simple die from taking drugs on their first time either. Even if it is an overdose..

lolwut? I think your abit wrong on that one

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#88 ajc_176
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[QUOTE="kulmiye"]

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] I don't think anyone mentioned "INSTANT" death from drugs. :|ferron321

People don't simple die from taking drugs on their first time either. Even if it is an overdose..

lolwut? I think your abit wrong on that one



Yeah, Plenty of people have died instantly from taking all kinds of drugs

Chemical reactions, allergic to a certain substance etc


What do you mean by "Even if it is an overdose" ?


Are you saying you cant OD the first time you take something ? :?

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you've gotta be a complete idiot if you're saying that X isnt that bad for you and that you cant OD from it and that alcohol and cigs are worse. First of all, X kills specific parts of the brain, thats where they get the term "it puts holes in the brain". It permanently lowers dopamine(the chemical that makes you happy), and it dangerously increases your bodies core temperature. People also die from drowning themselves by drinking too much water while on X or it could dehydrate you. Oh, and its almost ALWAYS cut with meth, coke, heroin, other chemicals and other drugs.I'd rather take my chances with alcohol and cigs. Oh and ive done a majority of these drugs, and X is the worst, i wouldnt touch that crap. As for the original question, energy drinks are probably the "best" for you, although they can be dangerous because of all the caffeine in it, thats why on the can it says something like little kids shouldnt drink it and pregnant wmen shouldnt drink it. I used to drink a lot of energy drinks and i noticed my heart started beating faster.
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#90 GrandMasta69
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Drugs. Doesnt have that sudden increase of stamina....does it? :?Mr_Leonis

last time i "checked" cocaine does increase ur stamina...its like 3 redbulls...so drugs r not worse than energy drinks

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#91 Helloiseeu
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Drugs are the worst.