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Hitler wasn't the cause of the second world war, England and France were. The treaty of Versailles that they imposed after WWI -- a war fought because England and France granted no significant colonies in the African continent to Germany -- left Germany in a terrible economical situation, due to its unfair premises and ridiculous debts to redeem the war that they were the main causes for*. It's widely argued amongst the studied circle of Historians that the second World War was an inevitable cause of the treaty the England-France alliance imposed after WW I, and that Hitler was just the catalyst to the process that lead to the second world war.
As a matter of fact, if it weren't for his ethnical genocides and his attempt at justifying the war by blaming all those who weren't of the Arian race, one could reason that Germany was the one wronged, and that a war to reclaim their losses was more than due. The problem is that Hitler over-did it, with the creation of concentration camps and an absurd expansion of "Deutschland's vital space".
*As opposed to Wilson's 14 points plan, which recommended a much more viable reproach to Germany's actions, and that was refused by the victorious part of Europe -- partially the reason as to why the U.S.A. didn't sign the Treaty of Versailles and delayed their entry in the WW II.
iAtrocious
Where did you learn this at? I want the name of the book that claims this preposterousness as fact. The only bit of truth in this statement is that Hitler felt Germany was wronged by the Treaty of Versailles.
It's not from "a book". It's a historical theory that's becoming more widespread, and part of the branch that believes that most greater events are caused by a series of events, not by a person or group -- simply catalysed by them. It's an attempt to analyse history and historical events as they were, not as the European super-powers and the U.S.A. depict them to be. There's more truth to that statement than you'd like to believe, that's what I've got to say -- if you want to read more into the subject, I suggest you look up the books from Eric Hobsbawm. He presents a nice analysis on the events, and not this Hitler was a monster and the cause of the second world war" bull****. It's not that I think that Hitler was right in persecuting those who didn't fall into his concept of the Arian race, it's just that things aren't as simple as people make them to be.
As I said earlier in this thread, Hitler was a thug and a bully. One of the books I have read most recently delves into the appeasement of Hitler and how he invaded both Austria and dismembered Czechoslovakia (this with English and French help). He employed stalling tactics through his minions and was hell bent on doing what he wanted no matter what he said he would do or signed to the contrary.
He was a peon who was a failure at life as a young man and didn't distinguish himself while he was in the military as a messenger boy. His book Mien Kampf was a collection of lies as told by German historians when interviewed by the BBC for a program about Hitler Sure, he was not happy about Germany not able to have an army or navy, but when one loses a war, there are repercussions and part of said repercussions was the Treaty of Versailles. Notice that after WWII, Germany suffered a worse fate than it did after WWI.
I don't know about this branch you are referring to, but someone had to specifically state that Germany went to war during WWI for the reasons you stated. They also had to state that Germany didn't start WWII either or is attributed to someone else if Hitler wasn't to blame. Who made such claims?
The fact is, in 1938, Hitler now firmly entrenched in power by the thugs he surrounded himself with (the show Hitler's Bodyguard is a great series). He bullied nations and then invaded them when they didn't bow to his demands. That is an act of war. His storming into Poland is the most obvious act of war he pulled. He steamrolled the Dutch, Belgium and Denmark not to mention other countries. Hitler wanted war in the most demented of ways for the longest time no matter what anyone else states. He got it and his Nazi party and thugs were soundly stomped into the ground as was his army, air force and navy.
Munich, 1938, Appeasement and World War II is a good book about people giving Hitler what he wanted and is actions with Austria and Czechoslovakia and his initial acts of war and his train of thought during said time.
What does a Marxist have to say about Nazi Germany and the fact that the very pact he supported was broken by the man you claim he defends?
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