What does athiest really want to promote?

I'm an atheist because I think blind faith in something so stupid is moronic.

I do what I do.

I'm an atheist because I think blind faith in something so stupid is moronic.

I do what I do.

IntenseGamingAZ

I dont think religion is stupid. I just think using religion to dictate your opinion is stupid.

I think people are just sick of feeling like they have to defend what they beleive.

Someone always has a freaking problem with what others think..who gives a **** what people think.

Nobody here can prove anything either way.

Kcube

They want to represent reason?

I'm just some1 who beleives in science, humanity and the advancement of the human race.

Also i hate it when religious people try force their beliefs onto me, and then when other say that Atheists do the exact same, when we DONT we dont even come close to how much religions do it.

Am I supposed to promote something?

S***, I must have slept through that part in the last atheist meeting.

Am I supposed to promote something?

S***, I must have slept through that part in the last atheist meeting.

cybrcatter

They want to represent reason?

KungfuKitten

Reason .TaoJeetKuneDo

[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]

Am I supposed to promote something?

S***, I must have slept through that part in the last atheist meeting.

xaos

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

They want to represent reason?

alexside1

Reason .TaoJeetKuneDo

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]most atheists here are radical leftists that feel no need for personal responsibility in one's life, but if that is how you feel it is admirable surrealnumber5

And if somebody generalized about conservatives or Christians, you would be getting your panties all up in a bunch about it. :roll:

Tell me: why do you need to generalize? And if you're going to admonish athiests for trying to offend peope, why do you think it's okay to try to offend leftists?

I'd say free thinking. I don't think any religion is logical or worthy of being treated as anything other then fiction. Its all so convenient and personally if there was a god capable of creating the universe and everything in it i beleive he would be far grander then any relgion would have you believe.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]most atheists here are radical leftists that feel no need for personal responsibility in one's life, but if that is how you feel it is admirable surrealnumber5

There's a difference between speaking generally and generalizing. You know what you meant, don't try to act like you didn't mean it. It can go both ways too, I could say that all religious posters on OT are right-wing nuts who want to force religion down everybody's throats and let the poor die in the streets, but that wouldn't be intellectually honest of me to do so, so how about we just drop the radical leftist bull****. Being a leftist=/=being an atheist=/=having no sense of responsibility.

And if you want to know why some atheists are out trying to destroy religion, the answer is because of people like you.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] And I thought people don't generalize on OT, glad we got that out of the way.

theone86

There's a difference between speaking generally and generalizing. You know what you meant, don't try to act like you didn't mean it. It can go both ways too, I could say that all religious posters on OT are right-wing nuts who want to force religion down everybody's throats and let the poor die in the streets, but that wouldn't be intellectually honest of me to do so, so how about we just drop the radical leftist bull****. Being a leftist=/=being an atheist=/=having no sense of responsibility.

And if you want to know why some atheists are out trying to destroy religion, the answer is because of people like you.

Well said my friend.

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] [QUOTE="TaoJeetKuneDo"]Reason .TaoJeetKuneDo

The truth?

atheism is a religion of it's own. Mother Nature, or Government could be considered their "god". if christians can try to persuade people to convert, why can't atheists?mohfrontline

No, atheism is NOT a religion.

A religion has a philosophy, rules, or a fixed set of morals.
Atheism doesn't have all that, it's just the lack of belief in gods. It doesn't have rules to live by or morals to follow, it's not a life philosophy.

Just like theism is also not a religion; christianity, judaism or islam are religions, theism in itself is not.

Communism, usually.

coolbeans90

Please tell me you're joking. :|

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]atheism is a religion of it's own. Mother Nature, or Government could be considered their "god". if christians can try to persuade people to convert, why can't atheists?TheFlush

No, atheism is NOT a religion.

A religion has a philosophy, rules, or a fixed set of morals.
Atheism doesn't have all that, it's just the lack of belief in gods. It doesn't have rules to live by or morals to follow, it's not a life philosophy.

Just like theism is also not a religion; christianity, judaism or islam are religions, theism in itself is not.

Government I don't think could be a religion. However, I would say that a modern form of religion is the "Man-made-Global-Warming" movement. I say this because there is part of all religions that have "beliefs" that are held with no scientific evidence. With the "warmers," no matter how much evidence you provide them, or how much you scientifically disprove their arguements, they go on blindly believing.

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]atheism is a religion of it's own. Mother Nature, or Government could be considered their "god". if christians can try to persuade people to convert, why can't atheists?YellowOneKinobi

No, atheism is NOT a religion.

A religion has a philosophy, rules, or a fixed set of morals.
Atheism doesn't have all that, it's just the lack of belief in gods. It doesn't have rules to live by or morals to follow, it's not a life philosophy.

Just like theism is also not a religion; christianity, judaism or islam are religions, theism in itself is not.

Government I don't think could be a religion. However, I would say that a modern form of religion is the "Man-made-Global-Warming" movement. I say this because there is part of all religions that have "beliefs" that are held with no scientific evidence. With the "warmers," no matter how much evidence you provide them, or how much you scientifically disprove their arguements, they go on blindly believing.

:| Are you seriously comparing the two.. You do realize that the majority of the science community in climate agree that man made global warming is occuring through evidence, these include peopel of religious belief as well as atheist.. I mean seariously? This is pretty face palm worthy..

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]>

Government I don't think could be a religion. However, I would say that a modern form of religion is the "Man-made-Global-Warming" movement. I say this because there is part of all religions that have "beliefs" that are held with no scientific evidence. With the "warmers," no matter how much evidence you provide them, or how much you scientifically disprove their arguements, they go on blindly believing.

sSubZerOo

:| Are you seriously comparing the two.. You do realize that the majority of the science community in climate agree that man made global warming is occuring through evidence, these include peopel of religious belief as well as atheist.. I mean seariously? This is pretty face palm worthy..

Climate-gate ring a bell?

normally athiest are just being athiest,

but nowadays many of them are into a scale of trying to prove something and sometime up to the level want to debate. What do these groups actually want to represent?

hippiesanta

I don't want to promote anything.
I just believe what I believe - I'm an agnostic atheist. If asked, I will tell you that. However, I never bring it up out of nowhere. I'm not out to prove myself or prove anything. I have strong beliefs, but I'm not trying to change anyone's minds. They're free to believe whatever they want as well.

However, atheists have a hard time being taken seriously by their religious counterparts. Religious people need to realize that an atheist is not an atheist to spite everyone else. Religious people need to learn to not take offense when someone says that they are an atheist. It's not a personal slam against religious people, and it's not a slam against any God or gods. Just like religious people believe in something, atheists believe in something (or, well, nothing). I think that is where the problem arises. Of course not all religious people are like that, but there are many who have very false misconceptions of atheists. Atheists are not heathens, terrible people, or anything like that. Atheists can have morals and can lead "good" lives. Atheists are not bad people. Just live and let live. As long as someone is not hurting you, leave them alone. We're all free to believe what we want.

Because of these misconceptions, a lot of atheists feel that they need to prove themselves, and I understand. I am just not a very vocal person so I tend to keep it to myself.

t3hrubikscube

Great post. I wholeheartedly agree.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]>

Government I don't think could be a religion. However, I would say that a modern form of religion is the "Man-made-Global-Warming" movement. I say this because there is part of all religions that have "beliefs" that are held with no scientific evidence. With the "warmers," no matter how much evidence you provide them, or how much you scientifically disprove their arguements, they go on blindly believing.

YellowOneKinobi

:| Are you seriously comparing the two.. You do realize that the majority of the science community in climate agree that man made global warming is occuring through evidence, these include peopel of religious belief as well as atheist.. I mean seariously? This is pretty face palm worthy..

Climate-gate ring a bell?

You mean those leaked emails that called into question nothign to do with the overwhelming evidence through out the world.. You may disagree with Global warming, but don't act like it is something like religion.. There is evidence behind it.. I could care less if you accept it or not.. Thats not the point.. But acting liek its a religious belief based on faith? Its a scientific theory... There are religions scientists of all denominations that accept it or study it.. This has NOTHING to do with atheism, nor does global warmings in the least some how contradict religion.. So I have no clue why you would bring that up of all things.

The freedom of thought and belief.

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

:| Are you seriously comparing the two.. You do realize that the majority of the science community in climate agree that man made global warming is occuring through evidence, these include peopel of religious belief as well as atheist.. I mean seariously? This is pretty face palm worthy..

Climate-gate ring a bell?

You mean those leaked emails that called into question nothign to do with the overwhelming evidence through out the world.. You may disagree with Global warming, but don't act like it is something like religion.. There is evidence behind it.. I could care less if you accept it or not.. Thats not the point.. But acting liek its a religious belief based on faith? Its a scientific theory... There are religions scientists of all denominations that accept it or study it.. This has NOTHING to do with atheism, nor does global warmings in the least some how contradict religion.. So I have no clue why you would bring that up of all things.

I think atheists generally try to promote values they believe in, namely skepticism, the advancement of science, and humanism. Many feel religion is holding society back, and that abolishing it would be the best thing for the advancement of mankind.Cube_of_MooN

They want to "promote" that there is science that disproves the bible vs. oblivious following of a deity that has not given proof of his existence.

Most people are just argumentative which is why they preach their beliefs no matter what religion they do/don't follow. They believe they are correct and want other people to realize it as well.

Don't get me wrong, I think people can believe in what they want and I will like or dislike them either way but when you feel something is forced on you, it's instictual to push back.

I also think that some Atheists believe that people are Christian are so, just because they don't know about all the facts given that disprove Christianity's "principals" I suppose.

They don't want to promote anything... Atheists aren't really a collective conscience like the organized religions. They come from all walks of life, have many different opinions on many different subjects, and don't have a church or lobby in which to exchange ideas. They're just sort of... there. To many atheists, the fact that they're an atheist isn't even that important to them.

I'm an atheist btw, just for reference.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

Climate-gate ring a bell?

YellowOneKinobi

You mean those leaked emails that called into question nothign to do with the overwhelming evidence through out the world.. You may disagree with Global warming, but don't act like it is something like religion.. There is evidence behind it.. I could care less if you accept it or not.. Thats not the point.. But acting liek its a religious belief based on faith? Its a scientific theory... There are religions scientists of all denominations that accept it or study it.. This has NOTHING to do with atheism, nor does global warmings in the least some how contradict religion.. So I have no clue why you would bring that up of all things.

But there is evidence.. :| And accepting man made Global Warmings is not a article of faith, nor is it exclusive to Atheism what so ever.. Scientist that happen to have religious beliefs accept as well.. In fact the radical majority of climatologist organizations as well as NASA agree that there is evidence int he matter.. But yet agian this is irrelevent, this topic is not talking about whether man made global warming is truth or not.. Your point fails on multiple fronts...

A) Manmade global warming holds absolutely NO connection with atheism.. B) It is a Scientific theory meaning there has to be much evidence on it to be classified it as such.. And C) Both atheists and theists accept or study the scientific theory.. This has nothing to do with atheism WHAT so ever....

Actually even as an atheist, I believe global warming has been treated as something like a religion in the past few years. Al Gore and co. are exaggerating the dangers of climate change because their personal agendas benefit from the global warming scare. Oh, and phony environmentalists are quite annoying.

Because this world as no place for age of relgion nor god

The world we live in today is all about Age of Reason

Because this world as no place for age of relgion nor god

The world we live in today is all about Age of Reason

k2theswiss

Not quite yet, but we're getting there.