I hear they don't shower or like deodorizers.Fightingfanthats france. It's like if you compare USA to UK not the same thing
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I hear they don't shower or like deodorizers.Fightingfanthats france. It's like if you compare USA to UK not the same thing
I was going to come back and relate something I saw today, but when I get to quote someone else to contrast, it's just that much more special.
I was at Dunkin Donuts with my kids this afternoon, and we walked in right after a couple who had pulled up in a car with Quebec plates.I have no idea about Quebec because I haven't been there yet and I'm only 30 miles away from Canada. But, the Canadians who visit here (plus those in my hometown back in NV) including the Frenchies strike me as well behaved. I certainly have no negative opinions of them.jun_aka_pekto
Keep in mind that this is about 150 miles south of Quebec, deep in the heart of upstate New York, where we are only required to learn English.
They get to the counter, and the guy starts rattling his order off in French. Rapid-fire French. Even if you just took a few years of French in school, I'm sure you'd be hard-pressed to understand this guy.
The counter girl shakes her head and says, "I don't understand you."
The guy shakes his head, looking really pissed, and starts SCREAMING his order. In French. I wanted to smack him in the head gently with a tire iron at that point.
The girl at the counter (who looks like she's 16 tops) looks like she's about to cry. "I don't speak French, sir," she says.
So this bozo starts to make his order in English. Really slow English. Like he's talking to a mentally-defective person. The woman is looking at this poor girl like she's a scumbag who is forcing the guy to eat his own excrement. When they were done with their order, they pointedly took their stuff and stalked out without leaving a tip.
It's not the first time I've seen a variation of this act, either. They have to know we don't speak French here. They come here voluntarily, from a bilingual country that speaks English. There's no reason for the act, but it happens.
I voted the fourth option. Really, they need to upgrade their law and have English co-exist as an official language along with French.
"Stop" I heard, is actually a legit French word. Cut this "arret" crap out and change your stop signs. Even France has signs that say "Stop" now.
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[QUOTE="OICWUTUDIDTHAR"]My opinion on Quebec is that it's f*cking huge.Mikey132
By land mass, most of the population is in the south, like Ontario. People in Canada seem to think we hav nowhere to build, no room to grow...... I've always wanted someone to show me where we have no room in this Country.
The cold must be keeping them south. Although northern Canada has seen much warmer temperatures in the last 10 years, especially in the summer.
I was at Dunkin Donuts with my kids this afternoon, and we walked in right after a couple who had pulled up in a car with Quebec plates.I was going to come back and relate something I saw today, but when I get to quote someone else to contrast, it's just that much more special.[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]
I have no idea about Quebec because I haven't been there yet and I'm only 30 miles away from Canada. But, the Canadians who visit here (plus those in my hometown back in NV) including the Frenchies strike me as well behaved. I certainly have no negative opinions of them.OrkHammer007
Keep in mind that this is about 150 miles south of Quebec, deep in the heart of upstate New York, where we are only required to learn English.
They get to the counter, and the guy starts rattling his order off in French. Rapid-fire French. Even if you just took a few years of French in school, I'm sure you'd be hard-pressed to understand this guy.
The counter girl shakes her head and says, "I don't understand you."
The guy shakes his head, looking really pissed, and starts SCREAMING his order. In French. I wanted to smack him in the head gently with a tire iron at that point.
The girl at the counter (who looks like she's 16 tops) looks like she's about to cry. "I don't speak French, sir," she says.
So this bozo starts to make his order in English. Really slow English. Like he's talking to a mentally-defective person. The woman is looking at this poor girl like she's a scumbag who is forcing the guy to eat his own excrement. When they were done with their order, they pointedly took their stuff and stalked out without leaving a tip.
It's not the first time I've seen a variation of this act, either. They have to know we don't speak French here. They come here voluntarily, from a bilingual country that speaks English. There's no reason for the act, but it happens.
You didn't speak up? That seems like common decency to stop crap like that. At least in the US
I was at Dunkin Donuts with my kids this afternoon, and we walked in right after a couple who had pulled up in a car with Quebec plates.[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]
I was going to come back and relate something I saw today, but when I get to quote someone else to contrast, it's just that much more special.[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]
I have no idea about Quebec because I haven't been there yet and I'm only 30 miles away from Canada. But, the Canadians who visit here (plus those in my hometown back in NV) including the Frenchies strike me as well behaved. I certainly have no negative opinions of them.c0kemusheen
Keep in mind that this is about 150 miles south of Quebec, deep in the heart of upstate New York, where we are only required to learn English.
They get to the counter, and the guy starts rattling his order off in French. Rapid-fire French. Even if you just took a few years of French in school, I'm sure you'd be hard-pressed to understand this guy.
The counter girl shakes her head and says, "I don't understand you."
The guy shakes his head, looking really pissed, and starts SCREAMING his order. In French. I wanted to smack him in the head gently with a tire iron at that point.
The girl at the counter (who looks like she's 16 tops) looks like she's about to cry. "I don't speak French, sir," she says.
So this bozo starts to make his order in English. Really slow English. Like he's talking to a mentally-defective person. The woman is looking at this poor girl like she's a scumbag who is forcing the guy to eat his own excrement. When they were done with their order, they pointedly took their stuff and stalked out without leaving a tip.
It's not the first time I've seen a variation of this act, either. They have to know we don't speak French here. They come here voluntarily, from a bilingual country that speaks English. There's no reason for the act, but it happens.
You didn't speak up? That seems like common decency to stop crap like that. At least in the US
What was I going to say? "I don't speak French either, so I'm not sure you understand me, but you're being an a**hole"? If I was in the same situation (as a clerk for 10+ years, I was in similar situtions), I'd have resented anyone interfering in that way.I did make sure that dealing with us was much more pleasant, I tipped her well beyond what I needed to, and I let her know that I was totally going to key that rat b*****'s car next time I saw it (which got a laugh).
I've been to Quebec several times because I have relatives there. I'm not too much of a fan of the politics involved (regarded separation from Canada and such) or the French in general, but it's not the worst place in the world to be; Montreal and Quebec City are both really, really nice.
The thing that sucks about Quebec is that it's a pain in the ass to navigate. Certain signs aren't where they should be or they're poorly wrriten and before you know it, you're missing exits and taking the wrong turns and literally going in circles.
I don't think much of it. They're like the neglected middle child that doesn't get the attention they want from mommy.
Being a Canadian, I wish they were their own country, so Canada will stop giving them the best jobs and everything else they whine for.
I visited friends at Montreal during last years UEFA. That's in Quebec. We had a blast although we stayed in the Italian part of town (there were Italian flags everywhere).
Necro'd thread from the insideMonsieurX
Why can't GS simply lock up all threads more than a month old? That would cut down on necro threads.
On the other hand, is it against the rules to necro an old thread? I don't recall reading anywhere it is.
[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Necro'd thread from the insidejun_aka_pekto
Why can't GS simply lock up all threads more than a month old? That would cut down on necro threads.
On the other hand, is it against the rules to necro an old thread? I don't recall reading anywhere it is.
It's considered disruptive I think.I lived in Montreal for 14 years and then moved to Ottawa. Ottawa freaking sucks, people are a lot more anal and the taxes are the highest in the country. From my knowledge Quebec has some of the lowest taxes and you don't have to pay for tap water. It's also a really beautiful province in my opinion.
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In my opinon the two nicest places are BC and Quebec everything in between sucks.
[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Necro'd thread from the insideMonsieurX
Why can't GS simply lock up all threads more than a month old? That would cut down on necro threads.
On the other hand, is it against the rules to necro an old thread? I don't recall reading anywhere it is.
It's considered disruptive I think.It's silly. I mean, if the discussion is still relevant, who cares when the first post was? Today? Last year? I don't. I know mods have to pretend to be necessary. I understand locking things creates an illusion of being in control. But why? Who cares? Locking a thread about the 2008 elections I understand. But people's opinions on Quebec between 2010 and 2012, I'm not sure that has changed significantly.Lol, I find this hilarious because I just got back home from a shopping plaza (in metro Atlanta), and it was packed.. I finally saw an open space out of the corner of my eye, but when I turned, I saw another car was parked SLANTED across two spots. The license plate said Quebec. It took me 15 minutes to find another spot, I was furious because I had to walk a long distance, and it's actually snowing today. I thought about keying that car, but I'm not that kinda prickI've driven behind people with Quebec plates, and wonder if they actually learn to drive up there, or if they just throw them behind the wheel at 16 and say "Here are the pedals, here's the wheel, just give it your best shot and don't crash." By contrast, I've seen drivers with Ontario plates drive competently and respectfully (if a bit slow).
There's a local highway overpass that gets hit by a Quebecois trucker at least once a month, as if the maximum clearance doesn't apply to them because they're from Quebec.
Really, what the hell's wrong with Quebec?
OrkHammer007
Highest taxes in the country are currently in Nova Scotia and at PEI both around 15% total tax rate,but they are supposed to take it down by 1% soon. So,Quebec's in the worst position next at 14.975% vs Ontario at 13%I lived in Montreal for 14 years and then moved to Ottawa. Ottawa freaking sucks, people are a lot more anal and the taxes are the highest in the country. From my knowledge Quebec has some of the lowest taxes and you don't have to pay for tap water. It's also a really beautiful province in my opinion.
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In my opinon the two nicest places are BC and Quebec everything in between sucks.
Vickman178
I haven't been and I don't know a whole lot about Quebec, but I do like some things. Â It's nice to have someplace in America (other than a couple of places in South America) with a rich French heritage and that speaks actual French (not that I have anything against creole, but it's practically a different language). Â I also like how they try to preserve the language and prevent anglicisms from becoming common. Â I've heard the phrase "more french than the French" before and it's true to some extent. Â For example, most French call emails "le email (pronounced "e-mel"), while Quebecers use a more french term, "le courriel." Â That being said, I have heard that they take it a bit too far and I'm not trying to discount that. Â I'm just trying to say that they have good ideas about maintaining a cultural identity, even if how they maintain it doesn't work out well at all in practice.
fines Italian restaurants for not translating things like "pesto" and "pasta" into french equivalents.Nibroc420
Like that, that's pretty ridiculous.
I was born and raised in Quebec with English as my first language (I only speak very basic french) and I think Quebec gets a bad rap. Not once have I been treated unfairly because of my language, in fact, most francophones go to great lengths to try to speak english to me if I can't understand them. Quebec is a beautiful province (I have 4 ski hills within 30 min of my house) and has some great cultural events/traditions. The only real knock I have against the province are the seperatists, which are not as numerous as some people would lead you to believe (ie. both referendums failed, and support for a new one is at an all time low) and the language laws, which are admittedly borderline fascist.
Pretty much all of my experience with Quebec is with trips to Montreal. It's a really a nice town, but the people can sometimes be rude. Overall I think of Quebec in the positive, as I do all of Canada. It's a great country with some really nice people.
Have to use the English to get my tourism dollars....LJS9502_basicThey do. Montreal is more English than French. Quebec gets way too much hate for unknown reasons.
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]kingkong0124Aljosa, do a lot of people in Toronto speak French?Naw.Ottawa and Quebec is the only place where they actually speak French on a daily basis.
Droid, I live in Toronto.
They do. Montreal is more English than French. Quebec gets way too much hate for unknown reasons.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Have to use the English to get my tourism dollars....Aljosa23
Montreal is still more French than English, but almost everyone is at least billingual.
They do. Montreal is more English than French. Quebec gets way too much hate for unknown reasons.[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Have to use the English to get my tourism dollars....one_plum
Montreal is still more French than English, but almost everyone is at least billingual.
Second-largest population of French speakers in the world, after Paris.
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