What gun will replace the m16/m4 as the main US infantry gun?

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#51 Manly-manly-man
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]What needs to be added is the AA-12.

fully-auto shotgun with highly variable ammunition in close-quarters >>>> assault rifle in close quartersUrbanSpartan125
No, i'd prefer a submachine gun such as the MP5, but the M4 does a great job considering it is smaller and more compact than the M16. An auto-shotgun would be to powerful, the kickback and the size of the drum would just be a hindrance.

There is almost no kickback.

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#52 Manly-manly-man
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[QUOTE="incinratis"]Farsight XR-20MagnumPI

Could of swore that was a Perfect Dark (fictious one) weapon.. Anyways I would think the FN SCAR assualt rifle.. I am not exactly sure if a replacement really is needed.. I also think the real need for improvement is non leathel weaponry.. Peacekeeping missions are beocming very common for soldiers.

It depends on how determined a person is. if their intent is hostile they aren't gonna give up. Less lethal & less less than lethal devices (there is a difference) have their uses but there are times and places for everything. Politics interfer with less lethal tactics. They don't want to use the tear gas or other CS gases because of unknown ailments. There could be an unforeseen lethal reaction to the gas.

Most of these devices are less than lethal, not non-lethal. Meaning under the right circumstances the devices will not be lethal, but given the fact that scenarios are full of unknowns and variables circumstances are never certain.

When someone is determined to fight you have to neutralize them before they kill you. As in deactivate and active threat. Weather they are dead or alive doesn't matter as long as they are decommisioned.

I don't encourage widescale less lethal tactics. That's why they call it SWAT. They have special weapons for special tactics. But some of these people are just too dangerous to risk less lethal failure. They're too dangerous. Attempting to subdue them them with less lethal weapons will get operators or other people killed. The risk is too high.

If you encourage widescale use of less lethal and less than lethal devices you put more officers and soldiers in danger because the people won't respect the authority. They will riot more and more.

Just a quick note, electricity will stop you no matter how determined you are.

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#53 Manly-manly-man
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Hand held rail guns. The navy already has a prototype for a cannon size one.SunofVich

Cannon sized? Are you kidding? It's rediculously huge, not a viable option AT ALL right now except on specialized water craft.

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#54 HJrAS_PT
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corner gun ftw: http://images.google.pt/images?hl=pt-PT&q=corner+gun&gbv=2
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#55 xXBuffJeffXx
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The SCAR is being used by Marine Force Recon now, it will likely stay there. I believe the replacement will be the H&K 416 though. But the M4 really isnt bad there really is no need to replace it.

UrbanSpartan125

I agree. I think the SCAR could conceivably be on tap, though, because Army special forces are also using it.

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#56 Dopemonk736
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H&K G36 or G36C
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#57 Dopemonk736
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Actually, the TAC gun from Crysis sounds reasonable. Give me that gun and I'm set.
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[QUOTE="ElArab"]

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] If you add touch-screens and make them Wi-Fi compatible, then you've got yourself the best damn army in the world. Just imagine what soldiers could do if they could google while engaging in a firefight.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

...already done...

The amazing this about that is there already using it in iraq

Heres the Link

The land warrior program was canceled about a year ago...

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#59 james28893
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SA80. It's more accurate.
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#60 Quadrifoglio
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The bow and arrow. ;)
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#61 -TheSecondSign-
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It was on Future Weapons.

I forget the model name, but it's half the weight and size of an M4, but carries twice the firepower and is designed essentially the same.

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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="ElArab"]

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] If you add touch-screens and make them Wi-Fi compatible, then you've got yourself the best damn army in the world. Just imagine what soldiers could do if they could google while engaging in a firefight.jointed

...already done...

The amazing this about that is there already using it in iraq

Heres the Link

The land warrior program was canceled about a year ago...

Umm clearly it's not because that video was taken in march of 07 and they have been using it ever since.
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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="ElArab"]

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] If you add touch-screens and make them Wi-Fi compatible, then you've got yourself the best damn army in the world. Just imagine what soldiers could do if they could google while engaging in a firefight.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

...already done...

The amazing this about that is there already using it in iraq

Heres the Link

The land warrior program was canceled about a year ago...

Umm clearly it's not because that video was taken in march of 07 and they have been using it ever since.

http://www.strykernews.com/archives/2007/02/07/land_warrior_fu.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Warrior

"Due to limited resources, and issues with the overall weight of the system, Land Warrior was canceled by the Army in February 2007."

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#64 Guiltfeeder566
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Tavor The Israelis are gonna make it standard now, but, it's a great gun, and it's bullpup, we NEED to go bullpup.

HK-416 it just...doesn't stop...

Barret 6.8 If we're willing to change Caliber too, but, this is pretty much an M16/M4 rechambered.

HK MP7 will replace PDW or SMG's

Maybe the KRISS will too.

Someone already posted a thread about that unstoppable shotgun (AA-12).

ElArab

The Tavor looks really cool.

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#65 kbubba92
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teh scar and teh aa12
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#66 Fire_Ants
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