What has caused more harm Religion or Science?

What has caused more harm Religion or Science?

Stupid humans have caused all the human-induced harm in recorded history. Disembodied ponderances about the universe are incapable of causing harm. :P

Technically science has, but I'm not complaining. Science is the reason I don't have to worry about dying from diseases that people used to die from ages ago.

Religion has had it's fair share of negative impacts in this world as well though. The mass suicides in Jonestown is a good example of one of them.

Technically science has, but I'm not complaining. Science is the reason I don't have to worry about dying from diseases that people used to die from ages ago.

Religion has had it's fair share of negative impacts in this world as well though. The mass suicides in Jonestown is a good example of one of them.

It was neither science nor religion but it is the MIND of illiterates and ignorants which always misinterprets things which lead to path of destruction.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Technically science has, but I'm not complaining. Science is the reason I don't have to worry about dying from diseases that people used to die from ages ago.

Religion has had it's fair share of negative impacts in this world as well though. The mass suicides in Jonestown is a good example of one of them.

nimatoad2000

I can't tell if you're trying to ask a question or make a statement. o_o;;

The people.Famiking

Owned, and agree'd.

Religion can give people the motive to do horrible or kind things. science gives people the tools to do horrible or kind things. So pretty much its the people who decide in both cases

Hard to answer. The technology produced by science is an enabler. It has made wars easier and bigger; roads, weapons, medical, navigation, etc.

while religion is a powerful motivator, technology is what caused the growth of places like Europe and Asia and as a result larger and more deadly wars compared to the Americas.

if you want to look at it from that point of view its clearly science. Science is what has created all of our weapons of war.

Science has done both more harm and more good.

I'm thinking Science because of nukes but wern't we at war constantly during the earlier times because of religion? That could of fuel the hatred for other countries in the future.Pvt_r3d

[QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"]I'm thinking Science because of nukes but wern't we at war constantly during the earlier times because of religion? That could of fuel the hatred for other countries in the future.illegalimigrant

[QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"]I'm thinking Science because of nukes but wern't we at war constantly during the earlier times because of religion? That could of fuel the hatred for other countries in the future.illegalimigrant

[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"][QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"]I'm thinking Science because of nukes but wern't we at war constantly during the earlier times because of religion? That could of fuel the hatred for other countries in the future.Pvt_r3d

[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"][QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"]I'm thinking Science because of nukes but wern't we at war constantly during the earlier times because of religion? That could of fuel the hatred for other countries in the future.Pvt_r3d

I think its more of both mixture Religion and Science, actually, but you're going the right way, PVT. However, Religion is about forgiving, although Science....Has...NUKES :D

Religion is a set, unchanging, way of thinking

Science is an understanding/invention process.

Not comparable,

Say science comes up with a way in which to create bronze nails. If those nails are used to nail people to a cross of wood by the religious who does the blame fall on?

[QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"][QUOTE="illegalimigrant"] But doesn't religion also fuel love and forgiveness.XboxAmbassador

I think its more of both mixture Religion and Science, actually, but you're going the right way, PVT. However, Religion is about forgiving, although Science....Has...NUKES :D

Technically, science. The sword, the crossbow, the catapult, gun powder, fighter air craft, tanks, nuclear weaponry, etc, etc.
But on the same note, you could also say that it has saved FAR more life through medicine, and medical practice.

Science has also made our lives far more easy and enjoyable (the printing press, harnessable electricty, lamps, water treatment, cars, airplanes, the internet, MP3 players, movies, etc, etc).

But if your question is, what has more harm been caused in the name of, then the answer would be religion.

Define science please.jointed

[QUOTE="jointed"]Define science please.Pvt_r3d

[QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"][QUOTE="jointed"]Define science please.jointed

Technically, science. The sword, the crossbow, the catapult, gun powder, fighter air craft, tanks, nuclear weaponry, etc, etc.
But on the same note, you could also say that it has saved FAR more life through medicine, and medical practice.

Science has also made our lives far more easy and enjoyable (the printing press, harnessable electricty, lamps, water treatment, cars, airplanes, the internet, MP3 players, movies, etc, etc).

But if your question is, what has more harm been caused in the name of, then the answer would be religion.

FlyingArmbar

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"] Anything man has made.Pvt_r3d

[QUOTE="jointed"]Define science please.Pvt_r3d

Man made religion though. -_-;;

You'll need to be more specific when giving a definition of science.

[QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"][QUOTE="jointed"]Define science please.Shad0ki11

Man made religion. -_-;;

You need to be more specific with the definition of science.

[QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"][QUOTE="jointed"] So art would also qualify as science? You need to be more precise since you can't compare a religion with that...they intertwine. jointed

I believe religion has caused the most harm out of the two. But at the end of the day, humans are to blame for almost all harm.

I believe religion has caused the most harm out of the two. But at the end of the day, humans are to blame for almost all harm.

raynimrod

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I believe religion has caused the most harm out of the two. But at the end of the day, humans are to blame for almost all harm.

illegalimigrant

[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"][QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I believe religion has caused the most harm out of the two. But at the end of the day, humans are to blame for almost all harm.

raynimrod

religion is the root of all wars and troubles

nations fighting each other in the name of stupid religion

religion is the root of all wars and troubles

nations fighting each other in the name of stupid religion

Wings_008

I don't think it is neccessarily either religion or science that has caused harm but people's beliefs being challenged that has caused war and killing.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"] Nukes, Bombs, guns, and human experiments all have all killed more than any holy war has.illegalimigrant

Just like countless thousands aren't and haven't been dying in the Middle East for centuries over religious strife - i.e. Israel/Palestine? I imagine the genocides in Somalia, Nigeria, Uganda and Sudan were irrelevant. The killing of hundreds of thousands of Buddhists and Hindus in Sri Lanka over the Tamil Tiger uprising of the last 30 years.... that's not counted?

Bosnia, Kosovo, Russia and Chechnya... these regions that have bore witness to countless deaths, again in large part due to religious conflict between Russian and Serbian Orthodox Christians and Muslims.

Oh and let's not forget Northern Ireland... and these are just conflicts happening now or that have happened recently.

Perhaps worth thinking about. This isn't just about The Crusades.

WWI and WWII were political and were not the cause of science. So technically your points regarding the wars are invalid.

[QUOTE="Wings_008"]

religion is the root of all wars and troubles

nations fighting each other in the name of stupid religion

illegalimigrant

Religion does make an awfully convenient reason, doesn't it. It's amazing what people are capable of doing if they can convince themselves that it's for a 'higher power'.

and no WW2 was not because of religion but then again it wasnt because of science

Religion and science in themselves are harmless. Blame the people who used them for the wrong reasons.

The people belonging to each group have caused a consideable amount of harm. They're pretty close,imo

What has caused more harm Religion or Science?

illegalimigrant

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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Not when people use those nukes, bombs, guns and experimental procedures (though rare in the last case) in the name of religion or for religious agendas.

raynimrod

Just like countless thousands aren't and haven't been dying in the Middle East for centuries over religious strife - i.e. Israel/Palestine? I imagine the genocides in Somalia, Nigeria, Uganda and Sudan were irrelevant. The killing of hundreds of thousands of Buddhists and Hindus in Sri Lanka over the Tamil Tiger uprising of the last 30 years.... that's not counted?

Bosnia, Kosovo, Russia and Chechnya... these regions that have bore witness to countless deaths, again in large part due to religious conflict between Russian and Serbian Orthodox Christians and Muslims.

Oh and let's not forget Northern Ireland... and these are just conflicts happening now or that have happened recently.

Perhaps worth thinking about. This isn't just about The Crusades.

WWI and WWII were political and were not the cause of science. So technically your points regarding the wars are invalid.

[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"][QUOTE="Wings_008"]

religion is the root of all wars and troubles

nations fighting each other in the name of stupid religion

Wings_008

Religion does make an awfully convenient reason, doesn't it. It's amazing what people are capable of doing if they can convince themselves that it's for a 'higher power'.

and no WW2 was not because of religion but then again it wasnt because of science

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"] 60 million people died in WW2 alone. Counting all the crusades together 1 to 2 million people died.

illegalimigrant

Just like countless thousands aren't and haven't been dying in the Middle East for centuries over religious strife - i.e. Israel/Palestine? I imagine the genocides in Somalia, Nigeria, Uganda and Sudan were irrelevant. The killing of hundreds of thousands of Buddhists and Hindus in Sri Lanka over the Tamil Tiger uprising of the last 30 years.... that's not counted?

Bosnia, Kosovo, Russia and Chechnya... these regions that have bore witness to countless deaths, again in large part due to religious conflict between Russian and Serbian Orthodox Christians and Muslims.

Oh and let's not forget Northern Ireland... and these are just conflicts happening now or that have happened recently.

Perhaps worth thinking about. This isn't just about The Crusades.

WWI and WWII were political and were not the cause of science. So technically your points regarding the wars are invalid.

While neither science or religion has been the ultimate cause for pain and suffering throughout human history both have been used as excuses and justifications for said pain and suffering. Of the two I'd say it would be religion. There's even a saying which came up during the Renaissance: "No phrase has caaused more death and suffering as deus vult."

[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Yeah, and I'm guessing none of them were killed because they were Jewish? Maybe the odd few million here or there, nothing major.

Just like countless thousands aren't and haven't been dying in the Middle East for centuries over religious strife - i.e. Israel/Palestine? I imagine the genocides in Somalia, Nigeria, Uganda and Sudan were irrelevant. The killing of hundreds of thousands of Buddhists and Hindus in Sri Lanka over the Tamil Tiger uprising of the last 30 years.... that's not counted?

Bosnia, Kosovo, Russia and Chechnya... these regions that have bore witness to countless deaths, again in large part due to religious conflict between Russian and Serbian Orthodox Christians and Muslims.

Oh and let's not forget Northern Ireland... and these are just conflicts happening now or that have happened recently.

Perhaps worth thinking about. This isn't just about The Crusades.

WWI and WWII were political and were not the cause of science. So technically your points regarding the wars are invalid.

raynimrod