When you hype something with unrealistic expectations it's only natural that it's going to fail.
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Umm...no. He took the side of the people of hispanic decent that live here. He knew they would not enjoy being targets.He is the one many blame for the US leaning even more towards a socialist country. Conservatives really don't like that. And the fact that he took Mexico's side on the whole Arizona issue. American's in general like a president who sticks with his people. Just saying.
Zyrokin
well seperation of church and state and all[QUOTE="Serraph105"]
[QUOTE="doom3lv"]his total love for islam, which is preaches Anti-American values. He goes to the middle east and can't stop praising their lands. When there are people in those lands that want to destroy our nation.
He went to a muslim country and said America is NOT a Christian nation!! doom3lv
Of course! But you really need to go their lands and say, "We are not a Christian country!"? What is the point?
Do you go out and announce proudly "I am a white/black/hispanic person?" What is the point of that?
Well, if you listened to the speech, you would have gotten the point. Instead, you focused on one line in a long speech.Maybe because he's spent more money in his first 21 months than Bush did in 8 years! His bailout was the worst thing imagined. What's wrong with letting private companies fail... it happens everyday. If the companies were being run more effeciently, they wouldn't have needed bailing out! Just look at Ford... they didn't require any bailout money. There are also many states that didn't take any bailout money because they knew that burden would be placed on taxpayers. One last thing, this new tax we all get to pay next for our employer's offered benefits is terrible. Adding the value of my health benefits to my gross income and then taxing me as if it's part of my income is how all of this spending will be paid for. Not to metion most of the money is being borrowed from China... not exactly one of our allies. I think this is enough reason to regret voting for Obama. Luckily, I had enough sense not to.jshaas
First off bush passed TARP, which bailed out the institutions. New healthcare tax? Link to this. The CBO has projected the healthcare law to save us money over time, and it is common sense that it will.
Maybe because he's spent more money in his first 21 months than Bush did in 8 years! His bailout was the worst thing imagined. jshaas
Nope. And need I remind you (obviously so) that Bush passed the bailout, not Obama.
Bush inherited a surplus of +846 Billion a year from Clinton, and turned it into record deficit levels (-800 billion a year) by the time he left office. How soon conservatives seem to forget.
If they were so about balancing the budget, they'd want another Clinton, not another Reagan.
his total love for islam, which is preaches Anti-American values. He goes to the middle east and can't stop praising their lands. When there are people in those lands that want to destroy our nation.Your probably the person I disagree with most on this forum. Everything I have read by you is shameful.
He went to a muslim country and said America is NOT a Christian nation!! doom3lv
his total love for islam, which is preaches Anti-American values. He goes to the middle east and can't stop praising their lands. When there are people in those lands that want to destroy our nation.
He went to a muslim country and said America is NOT a Christian nation!! doom3lv
You don't seem to have any idea what you're talking about. Love for islam, what? Praising the middle east, when? There are people in the US who would love to destroy the country as well, so should he not "praise" it? The US is not a christian country. Our law is based on the constitution, not the bible and the constitution specifically states that church and state are to be seperated in the establishment clause, and if you would like to know of the founder's intents, just look up Jefferson, Franklin or anyone else's views on the matter.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="The_LWR"]He made promises he couldn't keep. Sad, but he mostly has his campaign rhetoric to blame. The_LWRHe's most of his campaign promises. . .I was referring to the radical "CHANGE" he kept whining about.
What? He clearly has kept thr vast majority of his promises, what are you talking about?
Your probably the person I disagree with most on this forum. Everything I have read by you is shameful. Careful, he reports people who disagree with him.[QUOTE="doom3lv"]his total love for islam, which is preaches Anti-American values. He goes to the middle east and can't stop praising their lands. When there are people in those lands that want to destroy our nation.
He went to a muslim country and said America is NOT a Christian nation!! Fried_Shrimp
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="The_LWR"]I was referring to the radical "CHANGE" he kept whining about.The_LWRHealthcare reform, a thing that was attempted for decades, the repealing of DADT, and other things aren't radical change?I explained a reason people dislike him, it's because they expected more of a "CHANGE". I don't see why this is so hard to grasp. But you're making this out to be Obama's fault. . . .
[QUOTE="WiiMan21"]So has he done nothing, or has he spent enormous amounts of money on things we don't need? Make up your mind.Nothing, thats just it, nothing...
And also spend an enormous amount of money on things we don't need.
Theokhoth
Hes done nothing but spend money.
He only gets hate from the other side. Everything he does is the worst thing of all time from a neocon stand point.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="The_LWR"]I explained a reason people dislike him, it's because they expected more of a "CHANGE". I don't see why this is so hard to grasp.The_LWRBut you're making this out to be Obama's fault. . . .If you keep repeating rhetoric like "change" throughout your campaign and people take it the wrong way, then yes, it's partly your fault they're disappointed. But if you keep repeating rhetoric like "change" and describing exactly what that change is and implementing that change, then how is it partly your fault that people are disappointed?
That isn't true he gets hate from Republicans of course yeah, but he has also been getting alot of hate from far left DemocratsHe only gets hate from the other side. Everything he does is the worst thing of all time from a neocon stand point.
Ninja-Hippo
Politicians have a tendency to get blamed for essentially every problem on the planet by those who are opponents on the political battlefield, opinion shows, people who are presumptuous and biased towards their political opinions, as well as a whole plethora of other reasons. Much political praise results from similar causes. Obama is no exception to the rule.
He became president.SmittyPeppers
Basically, this.
[QUOTE="The_LWR"][QUOTE="doom3lv"]his total love for islam, which is preaches Anti-American values. He goes to the middle east and can't stop praising their lands. When there are people in those lands that want to destroy our nation.It isn't a Christian nation. Barack was right in that case!! Don't they have "ingod we thrust" on the paper dollar that they have?
He went to a muslim country and said America is NOT a Christian nation!! MediumBread
Umm... puts a slightly different image in my mind.
He is a Marxist; and most Americans, left or right, aren't comfortable with Marxists. fidosim
I'm a Marxist, and Obama is most definitely NOT one of us. I'd advise you look up the definition of Marxism.
[QUOTE="fidosim"]He is a Marxist; and most Americans, left or right, aren't comfortable with Marxists. br0kenrabbit
I'm a Marxist, and Obama is most definitely NOT one of us. I'd advise you look up the definition of Marxism.
Just because he doesn't show up to your poker nights doesn't mean he isn't one of you. Rest assured, he is with you in thought even if political resistance prevents him from being overtly with you in action.[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="fidosim"]He is a Marxist; and most Americans, left or right, aren't comfortable with Marxists. fidosim
I'm a Marxist, and Obama is most definitely NOT one of us. I'd advise you look up the definition of Marxism.
Just because he doesn't show up to your poker nights doesn't mean he isn't one of you. Rest assured, he is with you in thought even if political resistance prevents him from being overtly with you in action.Umm...no. Have you even read The Communists Manifesto, or are you just parroting Glenn Beck? Obama is nowhere near Marxist. A quick Junior High government class can clear this up for you.
He is a Marxist; and most Americans, left or right, aren't comfortable with Marxists. fidosim
A marxist? :lol:
Bush and the neocons are light years more fascist than obama is marxist. If that how you want to play it.
[QUOTE="fidosim"]He is a Marxist; and most Americans, left or right, aren't comfortable with Marxists. Former_Slacker
A marxist? :lol:
Bush and the neocons are light years more fascist than obama is marxist. If that how you want to play it.
Neoconservatism is a foreign policy approach, not a domestic political ideology. Therefore, I am forced to assume that you are simply throwing out terms and likely do not really know what a Neocon, a fascist, or a Marxist are. I could be wrong, though.Predictable rebuttal is predictable. These arguments invariably begin (or at least end) with the left-of-center participant using some combination fo the terms Glenn Beck, Fox News, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, fear monger, racist, xenophobe, hate, and close-minded; all while simultaneously claiming that Conservatives resort to the same tired old lines when criticizing the Obama government. But to answer your question, yes, i've read the Communist Manifesto, and all of Marx's works. His critiques of liberal capitalism, and the way in which he molded them in with his aversion to the economic and political dominance of the west correlates nicely with Obama's own international outlook.Umm...no. Have you even read The Communists Manifesto, or are you just parroting Glenn Beck? Obama is nowhere near Marxist. A quick Junior High government class can clear this up for you.
br0kenrabbit
[QUOTE="ZCatan"]1) No legal Hawaiian Birth certificate 2) Supported by and associated with terrorists such as Bill Ayers 3) Sat in a "church" for 20 years listening to Marxist, anti-American "sermons" 4) (Failed) Stimulus Bills.... I think this is his fourth one now 5) Cap and Trade 6) Unemployment rose above 8.5% contrary to his promise 7) Obamacare (redistribution of wealth) 8) Lawsuit against Arizona 9) Complaining to the United Nations about Arizona 10) Is in the process of betraying Israel 11) Support of the Ground Zero Mosque must I continue? I do not hate him, because hate is against God's Law, but I do strongly despise him. Herman Cain 2012!!!TBoogy1. LOL. 2. LOL. 3. It was only one speech, that he may not have even witnessed for all you know. 4. Disagree. 5. What? 6. Aww. So his prediction didnt happen. Life goes on. 7. LOL. You mean the republican healthcare plan from ten years ago? 8. They deserved it. 9. Link? 10. Whatever. 11. yes! You can continue if you want. I doubt you can do any any better though. He's one of those blackregiment type guys from the CWU.
Just ignore him.
He is a Marxist; and most Americans, left or right, aren't comfortable with Marxists. fidosim
He is not even close to being a Marxist...
[QUOTE="fidosim"]He is a Marxist; and most Americans, left or right, aren't comfortable with Marxists. chessmaster1989
He is not even close to being a Marxist...
You guys are using language I am unfamiliar with. What is a Marxist? :PPredictable rebuttal is predictable. These arguments invariably begin (or at least end) with the left-of-center participant using some combination fo the terms Glenn Beck, Fox News, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, fear monger, racist, xenophobe, hate, and close-minded; all while simultaneously claiming that Conservatives resort to the same tired old lines when criticizing the Obama government. But to answer your question, yes, i've read the Communist Manifesto, and all of Marx's works. His critiques of liberal capitalism, and the way in which he molded them in with his aversion to the economic and political dominance of the west correlates nicely with Obama's own international outlook.fidosim
I wasn't critizing consevatives, just you. You're obviously confused.
In a Marxist state, there is no state. No politican can be a Marxist because it's impossible for a state to dissolve itself, but must rather be moved to Communism through proletarian revolution.
I bet you think the USSR and China were/are communists too, don't you? :lol:
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
[QUOTE="fidosim"]He is a Marxist; and most Americans, left or right, aren't comfortable with Marxists. fidosim
He is not even close to being a Marxist...
He is a Marxist.You said you've read The Communist Manifesto... you should know very well that he's not a Marxist... what are you basing your opinion on anyway? His rhetoric and policies throughout his career have not been Marxist...
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="fidosim"]He is a Marxist; and most Americans, left or right, aren't comfortable with Marxists. bbkkristian
He is not even close to being a Marxist...
You guys are using language I am unfamiliar with. What is a Marxist? :PMarxism is a stateless and classless society. No government exists in the Marxist state, just the local apparatus. Think: community-organized communities. Thus the term COMMUNism.
You guys are using language I am unfamiliar with. What is a Marxist? :P[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
He is not even close to being a Marxist...
br0kenrabbit
Marxism is a stateless and classless society. No government exists in the Marxist state, just the local apparatus. Think: community-organized communities. Thus the term COMMUNism.
Ah. I see... ;) Its going to take me some pondering to determine whether Obama fits that category.... Yep, he is. :P (JK)
[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]
[QUOTE="bbkkristian"] You guys are using language I am unfamiliar with. What is a Marxist? :Pbbkkristian
Marxism is a stateless and classless society. No government exists in the Marxist state, just the local apparatus. Think: community-organized communities. Thus the term COMMUNism.
Ah. I see... ;) Its going to take me some pondering to determine whether Obama fits that category.... Yep, he is. :P
And how exactly does Obama fit into that category? :?:?
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