What if a different religion was correct?

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#51 KrayzieJ
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THETRUEDOZAH, I like the way you argue. :lol:
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#52 SolidSnake35
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Well, we'll never know for sure, but I assume that all religions will be wrong. Throughout time no one has had a clue.
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#53 mainsp
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Believe in Budah then? =/
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#54 LJS9502_basic  Online
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THETRUEDOZAH, I like the way you argue. :lol:KrayzieJ

Without facts?

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#55 ArmoredAshes
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]sura 23:91 "say not that allah begot a son" pwntmig_killer2

Sorry dude...that ONLY proves they aren't Christian...and they aren't.:roll:

the christian god has a son. the islamic god has 3 daughters. they're not the same god

This whole thing is like saying Zeus and Jupiter were different...they were the same thing just named differently by diffferent people. The only real differences is what these gods have done.

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#56 dilan94
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well, I'm not christain, so I wouldn't really know...

by the way, why is everyone talking about Allah being the same as god... thats not what this topic is about!

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#57 CptJSparrow
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I would be screwed either way.
Uh, Christianity IS WRONG.... Marilyn Manson and myself are my only gods.TallicaFan2005
Mr. Manson wouldn't be amused by your worship of him. That's completely misinterpreting his message.

[QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"]Uh, Christianity IS WRONG.... Marilyn Manson and myself are my only gods.LJS9502_basic

Marilyn Manson doesn't even make good music.....

On topic....God is God...different name is all.

Clearly what is good to you isn't good to everyone...
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#58 LJS9502_basic  Online
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Clearly what is good to you isn't good to everyone...CptJSparrow

Didn't say it was.....I wouldn't want it that way anyway....Manson fan?

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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"] Clearly what is good to you isn't good to everyone...LJS9502_basic

Didn't say it was.....I wouldn't want it that way anyway....Manson fan?

I know, but there isn't any use in saying what you said then; and yes.
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#61 LJS9502_basic  Online
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I know, but there isn't any use in saying what you said then; and yes.CptJSparrow

Well...I wouldn't have except for his god comment....and since I couldn't say anything about him....currently someone else thinks Freddie Mercury is god.

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#62 viralhunter
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"] the QuranLJS9502_basic

Allah is the same God as Yahweh...the Jewish God...and Christian as well. Different name but all three are Abrahamic religions.

actually adonai is the name of god in hebrew, i have no idea where yahweh came from

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#63 pianist
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]sura 23:91 "say not that allah begot a son" pwntmig_killer2

Sorry dude...that ONLY proves they aren't Christian...and they aren't.:roll:

the christian god has a son. the islamic god has 3 daughters. they're not the same god

Let's say there is a holy wad of goat cheese, and it is described as being a certain way by one group of people. The wad of goat cheese then disappears and is never seen again. Over time, certain groups of people start to claim that the wad of goat cheese was misinterpreted, and offer a new interpretation of its purpose and meaning while the original believers stick to their beliefs. What you then have is the potential for two radically different sets of beliefs developing around a single object. The wad of goat cheese isn't different because the second group of people describes it differently - it's just an interpretation. It's the same with religion.

Judaism was the original Abrahamic, monotheistic religion. Christianity followed it somewhat later, stemming from the belief that Jesus was the Messiah (the Jews obviously did not believe this to be true). 'God' didn't change - He is very much a part of both religions. But Christianity developed new concepts (such as the Trinity) to adapt the religion to the idea that Jesus was the Messiah. There were also fundamental differences in moral considerations (surely you know well the vast differences between the Old and New Testaments).

Islam is the youngest of the monotheistic, Abrahamic religions. It too makes reference to one God being almighty, and also makes reference to Jesus and others as prophets, though it denies that any of them were god-like in any way. Once again, we have an interpretation built around the central idea of a monotheism, and it was clearly derived from the earlier monotheistic religion.

LJS has been right all along - you really shouldn't be arguing about concepts you don't understand. Study some philsophy and history of religion content, then come back here and tell people they are 'pwnt' when they actually are. Self-owning yourself isn't going to do much for your reputation.

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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]sura 23:91 "say not that allah begot a son" pwntpianist

Sorry dude...that ONLY proves they aren't Christian...and they aren't.:roll:

the christian god has a son. the islamic god has 3 daughters. they're not the same god

Let's say there is a holy wad of goat cheese, and it is described as being a certain way by one group of people. The wad of goat cheese then disappears and is never seen again. Over time, certain groups of people start to claim that the wad of goat cheese was misinterpreted, and offer a new interpretation of its purpose and meaning while the original believers stick to their beliefs. What you then have is the potential for two radically different sets of beliefs developing around a single object. The wad of goat cheese isn't different because the second group of people describes it differently - it's just an interpretation. It's the same with religion.

Judaism was the original Abrahamic, monotheistic religion. Christianity followed it somewhat later, stemming from the belief that Jesus was the Messiah (the Jews obviously did not believe this to be true). 'God' didn't change - He is very much a part of both religions. But Christianity developed new concepts (such as the Trinity) to adapt the religion to the idea that Jesus was the Messiah. There were also fundamental differences in moral considerations (surely you know well the vast differences between the Old and New Testaments).

Islam is the youngest of the monotheistic, Abrahamic religions. It too makes reference to one God being almighty, and also makes reference to Jesus and others as prophets, though it denies that any of them were god-like in any way. Once again, we have an interpretation built around the central idea of a monotheism, and it was clearly derived from the earlier monotheistic religion.

LJS has been right all along - you really shouldn't be arguing about concepts you don't understand. Study some philsophy and history of religion content, then come back here and tell people they are 'pwnt' when they actually are. Self-owning yourself isn't going to do much for your reputation.

okay okay, so what if muslims, christians, and jews really do worship the same god. that doesn't make them the same
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#65 MichaeltheCM
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what if what if. seriously one of the most pointless questions in life
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#66 tarunramesh
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Hindu and Buddisim seem to be much more peaceful and forfilling then Islam and Christanity.sSubZerOo

im hindu and we follow a bit of buddisim and well

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#67 tarunramesh
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Believe in Budah then? =/mainsp

budah isnt exactly a god and he was never considered a god hes just a person with teachings but nice teachings

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#68 brainiac24
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If people weren't so ignorant and stubborn, they would realize Islam, Christianity, and Judaism almost preach the same thing. And on another note, if people think Muslims are all extremists, they should take a look at a documentary called "Jesus Camp".
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okay okay, so what if muslims, christians, and jews really do worship the same god. that doesn't make them the samemig_killer2

No, of course the religions aren't the same. There was never any dispute about that - people have killed each other for centuries over these religious differences, after all. It's just the 'God' part, and that's what ironic. They fight over the interpretation of the same Abrahamic God. They all say He's different... but what they say is just interpretation of the same concept.

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#70 Hellraiser3899
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I kinda don't care, I believe in a higher being but I follow no religion. I probably won't give up all my possessions and go to Africa to help the needy. If I live a modest and honest life and thats not enough for Allah, God, whoever than so be it, my seat in hell is reserved.
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#71 hoop_hard
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The answer is no. All religons are wrong.
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#72 cametall
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If the fire and brim stone versions of God are true then all I can say is, "crap."
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#73 ElZilcho90
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The answer is no. All religons are wrong.hoop_hard

But what if Christianity is Right?

We can play the what if? game all night. In reality, threads of this nature are quite pointless.

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#74 mastershake575
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all religons are a pile of BSmat_the_cat
yeah basically i just follow the rule of being a good person and being nice to others thats all that really matters
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"] okay okay, so what if muslims, christians, and jews really do worship the same god. that doesn't make them the samepianist

No, of course the religions aren't the same. There was never any dispute about that - people have killed each other for centuries over these religious differences, after all. It's just the 'God' part, and that's what ironic. They fight over the interpretation of the same Abrahamic God. They all say He's different... but what they say is just interpretation of the same concept.

If God is an actual deity that exist, he would look down at these religion with shame. Though they preach a God and try to subject us to a set of morals and ethics; they still fight and conflict with eachother. Religion is nothing more then people's interpretation of a Deity. Also, a lot of people are hyprocritical to the ethics of their religion.

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#76 pianist
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[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"] okay okay, so what if muslims, christians, and jews really do worship the same god. that doesn't make them the sameGolfer4Life

No, of course the religions aren't the same. There was never any dispute about that - people have killed each other for centuries over these religious differences, after all. It's just the 'God' part, and that's what ironic. They fight over the interpretation of the same Abrahamic God. They all say He's different... but what they say is just interpretation of the same concept.

If God is an actual deity that exist, he would look down at these religion with shame. Though they preach a God and try to subject us to a set of morals and ethics; they still fight and conflict with eachother. Religion is nothing more then people's interpretation of a Deity. Also, a lot of people are hyprocritical to the ethics of their religion.

Well, that's not necessarily true. We're biased... we want to believe that God is looking out for us and has our best interests in mind. But it's equally plausible that God is ruthless and cruel - Old Testament style - or that He has no real interest in this universe at all, and is simply watching to see what happens. He may even cause disasters on purpose to watch lesser beings struggle through them, the way we might collapse one of our ant farm's tunnels, just to see what the ants do.

Or there may be no higher being. We simply don't know. What we do know is where the interpretations of the monotheistic God arose, and in what order.