What if God changed his mind?

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#51 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I fear that if I answer that I will create a hole in space/time.

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I already did, sry.

Dammit, Gabu; this is why we can't have nice universes :x
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#52 GabuEx
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Dammit, Gabu; this is why we can't have nice universes :xxaos

I can't help the fact that I'm a theoretically necessary being.

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#53 FastNorwegian
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What if God changed his mind on things since the Bible was written? He might have pushed the ten commandments down on his list of priorities. He might now like gays, hate slavery, and even tolerate anti-death penalty activists. Does this not factor in to someone's thinking when reading the Bible for moral guidance? The Bible was written 3-4000 years ago. God might be a liberal by now :oBourbons3
No, he wouldn't, because God will endorse me when I run for prime minister.
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#54 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="xaos"]Dammit, Gabu; this is why we can't have nice universes :xGabuEx

I can't help the fact that I'm a theoretically necessary being.

If you can't help that, does that make you less than maximally excellent?
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I'm sure someone's already pointed it out, but you are mistaken about some things. Namely it was written 2000ish years ago. The earlier scripture was written earlier sure, but when people refer to "The Bible" they are usually speaking of the old an new testament together. Also, alot of the things you mentioned were changed in the new testament with the arrival of Jesus, so I guess you could say that God already changed his mind.
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#56 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="xaos"]Dammit, Gabu; this is why we can't have nice universes :xxaos

I can't help the fact that I'm a theoretically necessary being.

If you can't help that, does that make you less than maximally excellent?

I do not accept that premise.

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#57 GabuEx
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If you can't help that, does that make you less than maximally excellent?xaos

Of course not, silly.

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#58 Bourbons3
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Satan got cancelled :(xaos
What? :cry:
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#59 kingdre
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Since God is all-perfect and everything, changing His mind about something at any point would imply a level of imperfection. I don't pretend to know how He thinks, but it's probably safe to say He's still a conservative. Of course if He did change His mind, He'd be even more popular.

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#60 BiancaDK
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I don't think time would pass for God in the same way as it does for--

Oh, funny time. God?! A Liberal?! Why don't we just call him Satan then? HAHAHAHA:|:P:lol:

lols. Indeed ;d thats it, i have nothing else to contribute with. Ill leave now.
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#61 scoots9
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]What if God changed his mind on things since the Bible was written? He might have pushed the ten commandments down on his list of priorities. He might now like gays, hate slavery, and even tolerate anti-death penalty activists. Does this not factor in to someone's thinking when reading the Bible for moral guidance? The Bible was written 3-4000 years ago. God might be a liberal by now :oSegaGenesisfan

A religion thread from you?:(

To answer...it's impossible given the qualities assigned. But he doesn't dislike gays, isn't for slavery, and forgives everyone that seeks it.

Actaully he hates gays, hate to burst your bubble there, well he did free the jews from Isreal, then again he did allow slavery in Isreal (not the beating type of slavery though), and yeah he does forgive all that seek it.

No, he doesn't hate gays, he hates the act of being gay.

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#62 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]What if God changed his mind on things since the Bible was written? He might have pushed the ten commandments down on his list of priorities. He might now like gays, hate slavery, and even tolerate anti-death penalty activists. Does this not factor in to someone's thinking when reading the Bible for moral guidance? The Bible was written 3-4000 years ago. God might be a liberal by now :oSegaGenesisfan

A religion thread from you?:(

To answer...it's impossible given the qualities assigned. But he doesn't dislike gays, isn't for slavery, and forgives everyone that seeks it.

Actaully he hates gays, hate to burst your bubble there, well he did free the jews from Isreal, then again he did allow slavery in Isreal (not the beating type of slavery though), and yeah he does forgive all that seek it.

No he doesn't. Homophobia is a human issue. God doesn't actually interfere with life here so slavery is a man made constraint.

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#63 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]A religion thread from you?:(

To answer...it's impossible given the qualities assigned. But he doesn't dislike gays, isn't for slavery, and forgives everyone that seeks it.

scoots9

Actaully he hates gays, hate to burst your bubble there, well he did free the jews from Isreal, then again he did allow slavery in Isreal (not the beating type of slavery though), and yeah he does forgive all that seek it.

No, he doesn't hate gays, he hates the act of being gay.

Define 'the act of being gay
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#64 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="scoots9"]

[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]

Actaully he hates gays, hate to burst your bubble there, well he did free the jews from Isreal, then again he did allow slavery in Isreal (not the beating type of slavery though), and yeah he does forgive all that seek it.

MattUD1

No, he doesn't hate gays, he hates the act of being gay.

Define 'the act of being gay

To clear this issue up he is talking about the aspect of sex. But God doesn't feel differently about gay sex as he does about premarital or extra marital sex.

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I'm sure someone's already pointed it out, but you are mistaken about some things. Namely it was written 2000ish years ago. The earlier scripture was written earlier sure, but when people refer to "The Bible" they are usually speaking of the old an new testament together. Also, alot of the things you mentioned were changed in the new testament with the arrival of Jesus, so I guess you could say that God already changed his mind.guynamedbilly

People changed the way that they looked at God. God could change anything, but once he "saw that it was good" Why would he? Let alone his mind. Yes, changing his mind would imply that at one point his way of thinking was imperfect. Why else would his ideas change? They are utterly perfect, so nothing can be better than his current mindset.

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#66 Head_of_games
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God changes how he acts based off his opinions(Such as the switch from the laws of the old testament to the new), but he does not "change his mind" because that would mean that in the past he was wrong, which is impossible. He's always been right, and he will keep being right. For instance, in the old testament god said that homosexuality was an abomination, and back then it was punished by death. We of course don't carry out such a punishment anymore, but that doesn't change Gods stance on the issue. /thread.
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[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"]I'm sure someone's already pointed it out, but you are mistaken about some things. Namely it was written 2000ish years ago. The earlier scripture was written earlier sure, but when people refer to "The Bible" they are usually speaking of the old an new testament together. Also, alot of the things you mentioned were changed in the new testament with the arrival of Jesus, so I guess you could say that God already changed his mind.diddlesps3

People changed the way that they looked at God. God could change anything, but once he "saw that it was good" Why would he? Let alone his mind. Yes, changing his mind would imply that at one point his way of thinking was imperfect. Why else would his ideas change? They are utterly perfect, so nothing can be better than his current mindset.

He changed his mind based on conditions that man fulfilled such as in Exodus 32:14. You can go the circular route and see where god says he is unchanging, but if you approach this purely intellectually, you can see points where God changes what was going to happen based on what man was doing at the time. I'm sure your side of the argument then would go that he knew that man would change so he had always planned on sparing them once they had asked for mercy and thus his mind wasn't changed but was merely fulfilled. Then I'd say how much that doesn't make since and that just means that god was toying with us like we were just a little game to him. Then you'd say something about how we can never know the mind of god and his ways are above our ways. Afterward I'd realize all over again why I quit going to church.
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#68 T_P_O
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Hey, Jesus Christ is the centre of christianity, and he seemed pretty liberal to me.