What if Jesus ran for president?

I was doing some thinking and I formed this question from listening to very many different people talking about the election, and many of them say things like "this is who God want's to win" or "Jesus would be a Democrat" or "Jesus would be a Republican". But I don't think these Christians would vote for Jesus if he was actually running for office, I don't think anyone really would.

Let's take a look at it:

Foreign Policy-"Turn the other Cheek", Jesus is all about praying for your enemies and not engaging them with violence. That means he would be against all forms of military, we wouldn't have one anymore. That is a scary thought huh?

Economics-"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter heaven", Jesus said the best way to be righteous is for one to give all of their positions and wealth to the poor. This would not go over too well today, especially with the GOP. We would become a very poor nation as we would be giving money to every other country that asked for it.

Health Care- Jesus was all about healing the sick and needy, and he did it for free. Jesus would be supportive of free health care for everyone, so isn't i thypocrytical of Christians, mainly the GOP Christians, to be against health care reform?

There are many more issues, but I felt like these 3 are the big one's that are going to determine the results in this election. If Jesus was running for president, he would be considered the worst and most craziest politician in history.

No one would support him because the results would be disasterous. Please do not assume I am anti Christian, I am not. I like Christian people and I defend them on here regularly. But what I am saying is the truth. I couldn't see Jesus running as a Republican and I don't know if he would run as a Democrat either.

But I should mention that I am Jewish so my knowledge of Jesus is not the best, it comes from my own reading of The Bible and my theology class.

Jesus is a socialist, and as a Christian, I would never vote in a Jew!

Obama is Jesus, so it would be like his policies.

The evangelical right wouldn't vote for him. The atheists wouldn't vote for him.

He wouldn't get the national majority.

Jesus is a socialist, and as a Christian, I would never vote in a Jew!

leviathan91

Wow....talk about being bigoted. I vote for Christians all the time and I'm a Jew.

Though I expect you were being sarcastic.

"Turn the other Cheek"

ShadowMoses900

Doesn't mean what you think it does.

I could waste my time and type it all out, but I'm just going to copy-pasta from wiki since it's already there.

A literal interpretation of the passages, in which the command refers specifically to a manual strike against the side of a person's face, can be supported by reference to historical and other factors. At the time of Jesus, striking someone deemed to be of a lower class with the back of the hand was used to assert authority and dominance. If the persecuted person "turned the other cheek," the discipliner was faced with a dilemma. The left hand was used for unclean purposes, so a back-hand strike on the opposite cheek would not be performed. The other alternative would be a slap with the open hand as a challenge or to punch the person, but this was seen as a statement of equality. Thus, by turning the other cheek the persecuted was in effect demanding equality. By handing over one's cloak in addition to one's tunic, the debtor has essentially given the shirt off his back, a situation directly forbidden by Hebrew Law as stated in Deuteronomy:

10 ¶ When thou dost lend thy brother any thing, thou shalt not go into his house to fetch his pledge.
11 Thou shalt stand abroad, and the man to whom thou dost lend shall bring out the pledge abroad unto thee.
12 And if the man be poor, thou shalt not sleep with his pledge:
13 In any case thou shalt deliver him the pledge again when the sun goeth down, that he may sleep in his own raiment, and bless thee: and it shall be righteousness unto thee before the LORD thy God.
Deuteronomy 24:1013 KJV

By giving the lender the cloak as well the debtor was reduced to nakedness. Public nudity was viewed as bringing shame on the viewer, not just the naked, as seen in Noah's case:

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their fathers nakedness.
Genesis 9:2023 KJV

The succeeding verse from the Sermon on the Mount can similarly be seen as a method for making the oppressor break the law. The commonly invoked Roman law of Angaria allowed the Roman authorities to demand that inhabitants of occupied territories carry messages and equipment the distance of one mile post, but prohibited forcing an individual to go further than a single mile, at the risk of suffering disciplinary actions. In this example, the nonviolent interpretation sees Jesus as placing criticism on an unjust and hated Roman law as well as clarifying the teaching to extend beyond Jewish law.

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

Jesus is a socialist, and as a Christian, I would never vote in a Jew!

ShadowMoses900

Wow....talk about being bigoted. I vote for Christians all the time and I'm a Jew.

Jesus is a socialist, and as a Christian, I would never vote in a Jew!

leviathan91

The evangelical right wouldn't vote for him. The atheists wouldn't vote for him.

He wouldn't get the national majority.

jimkabrhel

Atheists are an extreamely small minority, no one cares if they vote or not.

You do raise an interesting point though, many people that are Christians would not vote for the Man himself. Does this make them hypocrytical? Maybe. But I don't think most people would vote for him, like how I brought up foreign policy, turning the other cheek would get us killed.

He would disban the military completely and would be forgiving everyone and letting them go freely, regardless of what they did. They could kill a bunch of people and he would say "you are forgiven" and they would just be let out to do it again.

Jesus would not be good for our society. As a president mind you, not trying to insult Christians here.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

Jesus is a socialist, and as a Christian, I would never vote in a Jew!

chessmaster1989

Wow....talk about being bigoted. I vote for Christians all the time and I'm a Jew.

I suspected he was joking after I re-read it.

I was doing some thinking and I formed this question from listening to very many different people talking about the election, and many of them say things like "this is who God want's to win" or "Jesus would be a Democrat" or "Jesus would be a Republican". But I don't think these Christians would vote for Jesus if he was actually running for office, I don't think anyone really would.

Let's take a look at it:

Foreign Policy-"Turn the other Cheek", Jesus is all about praying for your enemies and not engaging them with violence. That means he would be against all forms of military, we wouldn't have one anymore. That is a scary thought huh?

Economics-"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter heaven", Jesus said the best way to be righteous is for one to give all of their positions and wealth to the poor. This would not go over too well today, especially with the GOP. We would become a very poor nation as we would be giving money to every other country that asked for it.

Health Care- Jesus was all about healing the sick and needy, and he did it for free. Jesus would be supportive of free health care for everyone, so isn't i thypocrytical of Christians, mainly the GOP Christians, to be against health care reform?

There are many more issues, but I felt like these 3 are the big one's that are going to determine the results in this election. If Jesus was running for president, he would be considered the worst and most craziest politician in history.

No one would support him because the results would be disasterous. Please do not assume I am anti Christian, I am not. I like Christian people and I defend them on here regularly. But what I am saying is the truth. I couldn't see Jesus running as a Republican and I don't know if he would run as a Democrat either.

But I should mention that I am Jewish so my knowledge of Jesus is not the best, it comes from my own reading of The Bible and my theology class.

ShadowMoses900

One cannot so easily expand personal morals to specifics of public policy. Of course, I expect nothing from ShadowMoses.

I would say that Christian teachings are meant for guiding personal life and not for guiding the lives of others.chessmaster1989

He would disban the military completely and would be forgiving everyone and letting them go freely, regardless of what they did.

ShadowMoses900

You are drunk.

If Jesus was resurrected, their would be no atheists or people of varying religions. In today's age everything He said or did would be recorded and written down by thousands of sources, so their will neve be any dispute of His existence.

Maybe he'd come out and say, "My government will help those who help themselves."

Wouldn't that be refreshing...musicalmac

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I would say that Christian teachings are meant for guiding personal life and not for guiding the lives of others.mattbbpl

Religion and politics go hand in hand wether you like it or not. It is a reality of this world. Religious values inspire people and bills and idealogies, they do form the politics. Jesus in his time was making political stirs, not just religious one's. This is part of the reason why the Romans wanted him dead, he was causing trouble to them.

The act of him riding on the Donkey was a political statement as much as it was a religious one. It was seen as a mocker of the roman nobels who came into Jerusalme on horses, and the Jews hated the Romans, so they swung palm tree leaves at Jesus when he entered the city, palm trees were a symbol of Jewish liberation.

Secularism and religion are not really enemies, they can both coexist. However to try to seperate religion from politics is impossible. It's not a bad thing IMO as long as it doesn't create a theocracy like the Catholic Church in the middle ages.

Seperation of Church and State is from a quote, it is not in the Constitution at all. It refers to stopping things like a State Church from forming, not religion or religious expression in politics.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Wow....talk about being bigoted. I vote for Christians all the time and I'm a Jew.

ShadowMoses900

I suspected he was joking after I re-read it.

If a black Jewish Gay man married to a Muslim transgender whatever ran for the presidency on the same platform I support, I'd probably support them. That said, I was being sarcastic in my previous comment. I mean, it should have been obvious since Jesus was a Jew and I was being lopsided...

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

He would disban the military completely and would be forgiving everyone and letting them go freely, regardless of what they did.

Brosephus_Rex

You are drunk.

No. You are avoiding the point.

Jesus said "He who is without sin cast the first stone", he also claimed all is forgiven under him. Christians believe that anyone who believes in Jesus is free from hell and is forgiven and goes to heaven.

If Jesus was president he would not kill anyone, he would be forgiving the mass murderes, the rapists etc....all the criminals and let them back out again because he would forgive them.

The result of this would be disasterous. This is one reason why Jesus would make a bad president.

[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

He would disban the military completely and would be forgiving everyone and letting them go freely, regardless of what they did.

ShadowMoses900

You are drunk.

No. You are avoiding the point.

Jesus said "He who is without sin cast the first stone", he also claimed all is forgiven under him. Christians believe that anyone who believes in Jesus is free from hell and is forgiven and goes to heaven.

If Jesus was president he would not kill anyone, he would be forgiving the mass murderes, the rapists etc....all the criminals and let them back out again because he would forgive them.

The result of this would be disasterous. This is one reason why Jesus would make a bad president.

He also threw out the money changers in the temple. You are disastrous.

One cannot so easily expand personal morals to specifics of public policy. Of course, I expect nothing from ShadowMoses.

Brosephus_Rex

I am not a Christian. So your comment makes no sense.

[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

He would disban the military completely and would be forgiving everyone and letting them go freely, regardless of what they did.

ShadowMoses900

You are drunk.

No. You are avoiding the point.

Jesus said "He who is without sin cast the first stone", he also claimed all is forgiven under him. Christians believe that anyone who believes in Jesus is free from hell and is forgiven and goes to heaven.

If Jesus was president he would not kill anyone, he would be forgiving the mass murderes, the rapists etc....all the criminals and let them back out again because he would forgive them.

The result of this would be disasterous. This is one reason why Jesus would make a bad president.

You can forgive someone without letting them out of prison. Jesus didn't say that all prisoners are to be free.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

You are drunk.

champion837

No. You are avoiding the point.

Jesus said "He who is without sin cast the first stone", he also claimed all is forgiven under him. Christians believe that anyone who believes in Jesus is free from hell and is forgiven and goes to heaven.

If Jesus was president he would not kill anyone, he would be forgiving the mass murderes, the rapists etc....all the criminals and let them back out again because he would forgive them.

The result of this would be disasterous. This is one reason why Jesus would make a bad president.

Jesus was a pacifist, so he would never lock someone up. There would be no prisons under his presidency, he would just be forgiving criminals and let them run right back out again.

Like I said, it would not be good for the country for Jesus to be president.

[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

One cannot so easily expand personal morals to specifics of public policy. Of course, I expect nothing from ShadowMoses.

ShadowMoses900

I am not a Christian. So your comment makes no sense.

I expect no rational thought on your part - so it makes perfect sense. Only you could take statements like "people should do x" to "if this guy ran for president, he would make government do x."

[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No. You are avoiding the point.

Jesus said "He who is without sin cast the first stone", he also claimed all is forgiven under him. Christians believe that anyone who believes in Jesus is free from hell and is forgiven and goes to heaven.

If Jesus was president he would not kill anyone, he would be forgiving the mass murderes, the rapists etc....all the criminals and let them back out again because he would forgive them.

The result of this would be disasterous. This is one reason why Jesus would make a bad president.

ShadowMoses900

Jesus was a pacifist, so he would never lock someone up. There would be no prisons under his presidency, he would just be forgiving criminals and let them run right back out again.

Like I said, it would not be good for the country for Jesus to be president.

Why run for president when the world is in your grasp?

President is small potatoes.

Also, Jesus is a Warrior King meaning that if there is any peace to be had, it will only be due to him stomping his enemies out of the picture (Including the opposing party). They wouldn't let him rule otherwise. So, I guess that could all be chalked up as he wouldn't win and wouldn't care if he didn't win.

he would never lock someone up.

ShadowMoses900

LOL

prove

also, see: hell

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

he would never lock someone up.

Brosephus_Rex

LOL

prove

also, see: hell

When did Jesus lock someone up? Oh right never, it never says that in The Bible. He even gave Judas a hug and he already knew he was going to betray him way before hand. That is clearly what he would do to criminals, just forgive them and hug them.

Also hell does not exist in the origional texts, there is no hell for Jews. And according to Christains Jesus went into hell and pulled them out of it up into heaven. So Jesus would just close down all the prisons and let all the bad people out.

[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

he would never lock someone up.

ShadowMoses900

LOL

prove

also, see: hell

When did Jesus lock someone up? Oh right never, it never says that in The Bible. He even gave Judas a hug and he already knew he was going to betray him way before hand. That is clearly what he would do to criminals, just forgive them and hug them.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

One cannot so easily expand personal morals to specifics of public policy. Of course, I expect nothing from ShadowMoses.

Brosephus_Rex

I am not a Christian. So your comment makes no sense.

I expect no rational thought on your part - so it makes perfect sense. Only you could take statements like "people should do x" to "if this guy ran for president, he would make government do x."

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I would say that Christian teachings are meant for guiding personal life and not for guiding the lives of others.ShadowMoses900

Religion and politics go hand in hand wether you like it or not. It is a reality of this world. Religious values inspire people and bills and idealogies, they do form the politics. Jesus in his time was making political stirs, not just religious one's. This is part of the reason why the Romans wanted him dead, he was causing trouble to them.

The act of him riding on the Donkey was a political statement as much as it was a religious one. It was seen as a mocker of the roman nobels who came into Jerusalme on horses, and the Jews hated the Romans, so they swung palm tree leaves at Jesus when he entered the city, palm trees were a symbol of Jewish liberation.

Secularism and religion are not really enemies, they can both coexist. However to try to seperate religion from politics is impossible. It's not a bad thing IMO as long as it doesn't create a theocracy like the Catholic Church in the middle ages.

Seperation of Church and State is from a quote, it is not in the Constitution at all. It refers to stopping things like a State Church from forming, not religion or religious expression in politics.

[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

he would never lock someone up.

ShadowMoses900

LOL

prove

also, see: hell

When did Jesus lock someone up? Oh right never, it never says that in The Bible. He even gave Judas a hug and he already knew he was going to betray him way before hand. That is clearly what he would do to criminals, just forgive them and hug them.

Also hell does not exist in the origional texts, there is no hell for Jews. And according to Christains Jesus went into hell and pulled them out of it up into heaven. So Jesus would just close down all the prisons and let all the bad people out.

Jesus didn't create universal health care in Israel so he would do it here.

/moses "logic"

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

LOL

prove

also, see: hell

Brosephus_Rex

When did Jesus lock someone up? Oh right never, it never says that in The Bible. He even gave Judas a hug and he already knew he was going to betray him way before hand. That is clearly what he would do to criminals, just forgive them and hug them.

Also hell does not exist in the origional texts, there is no hell for Jews. And according to Christains Jesus went into hell and pulled them out of it up into heaven. So Jesus would just close down all the prisons and let all the bad people out.

Jesus didn't create universal health care in Israel so he would do it here.

/moses "logic"

So you have no proof that Jesus would keep people in prisons? Thought so. His whole idea was forgive people and love your enemies and show them mercy, he would not have the death penalty and he would not lock people up either. That would be harming them wouldn't it? Do you have an example that Jesus would do this?

And obviously Jesus would be in favor of social programs for the poor. He would be against having wealth entirely, this would make him a communist in many people's eyes.

[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

When did Jesus lock someone up? Oh right never, it never says that in The Bible. He even gave Judas a hug and he already knew he was going to betray him way before hand. That is clearly what he would do to criminals, just forgive them and hug them.

Also hell does not exist in the origional texts, there is no hell for Jews. And according to Christains Jesus went into hell and pulled them out of it up into heaven. So Jesus would just close down all the prisons and let all the bad people out.

ShadowMoses900

Jesus didn't create universal health care in Israel so he would do it here.

/moses "logic"

So you have no proof that Jesus would keep people in prisons? Thought so. His whole idea was forgive people and love your enemies and show them mercy, he would not have the death penalty and he would not lock people up either. That would be harming them wouldn't it? Do you have an example that Jesus would do this?

And obviously Jesus would be in favor of social programs for the poor. He would be against having wealth entirely, this would make him a communist in many people's eyes.

Point being, he wasn't a pacifist (see temple) and extrapolations thereof are broken at the stem. Moreover, personal forgiveness of wrongdoing is separable from action pertaining to public safety by public authorities. Verdict: You are certifiable.

Actually, Moses is trolling. God damn it.

I was doing some thinking and I formed this question from listening to very many different people talking about the election, and many of them say things like "this is who God want's to win" or "Jesus would be a Democrat" or "Jesus would be a Republican". But I don't think these Christians would vote for Jesus if he was actually running for office, I don't think anyone really would.

Let's take a look at it:

Foreign Policy-"Turn the other Cheek", Jesus is all about praying for your enemies and not engaging them with violence. That means he would be against all forms of military, we wouldn't have one anymore. That is a scary thought huh?

Economics-"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter heaven", Jesus said the best way to be righteous is for one to give all of their positions and wealth to the poor. This would not go over too well today, especially with the GOP. We would become a very poor nation as we would be giving money to every other country that asked for it.

Health Care- Jesus was all about healing the sick and needy, and he did it for free. Jesus would be supportive of free health care for everyone, so isn't i thypocrytical of Christians, mainly the GOP Christians, to be against health care reform?

There are many more issues, but I felt like these 3 are the big one's that are going to determine the results in this election. If Jesus was running for president, he would be considered the worst and most craziest politician in history.

No one would support him because the results would be disasterous. Please do not assume I am anti Christian, I am not. I like Christian people and I defend them on here regularly. But what I am saying is the truth. I couldn't see Jesus running as a Republican and I don't know if he would run as a Democrat either.

But I should mention that I am Jewish so my knowledge of Jesus is not the best, it comes from my own reading of The Bible and my theology class.

ShadowMoses900

As for health care, obviously Christ teaches that we should take care of other people. That does not mean that He would endorse Obamacare. Bear in mind that the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, which supports health-care reform in principle, ultimately opposed passage of Obamacare because it has no conscience protections, has no sections preventing it from funding abortion or insurance-plans that cover elective abortion and because it discriminates against legal immigrants (immigrants are barred from purchasing insurance through the exchanges).

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] I don't really know, TBH. I hate melding religion and politics, even regarding mental exercises like this, because I just don't think the two belong together. But since we're on the topic, I honestly think Jesus would have been appalled at the healthcare debate, for one. I also think he'd be appalled at the Paul Ryan budget proposal. Other policies are grayer and harder to peg, I think, but in some cases it seems to me that certain stances clearly fly in the face of what he taught and stood for.mattbbpl

Religion and politics go hand in hand wether you like it or not. It is a reality of this world. Religious values inspire people and bills and idealogies, they do form the politics. Jesus in his time was making political stirs, not just religious one's. This is part of the reason why the Romans wanted him dead, he was causing trouble to them.

The act of him riding on the Donkey was a political statement as much as it was a religious one. It was seen as a mocker of the roman nobels who came into Jerusalme on horses, and the Jews hated the Romans, so they swung palm tree leaves at Jesus when he entered the city, palm trees were a symbol of Jewish liberation.

Secularism and religion are not really enemies, they can both coexist. However to try to seperate religion from politics is impossible. It's not a bad thing IMO as long as it doesn't create a theocracy like the Catholic Church in the middle ages.

Seperation of Church and State is from a quote, it is not in the Constitution at all. It refers to stopping things like a State Church from forming, not religion or religious expression in politics.

I find it ironic, for instance, that those who brandish Christian values as a political tool often decry the threat of Sharia Law in our government.

Religion motivated stances have no place in a free society.

Depends on what you are referring to. Religion inspires things and is the bases for many movements and ideas, this country was actually founded on many religious ideas (it was founded on other ideas too).

As you can see, religious stances do have a place in a free society, to stop religion is to stop living in a free society, it becomes oppressive at that point as it is trampiling on other's religious rights.

The opposite is also true as well in many circumstances, you cannot force someone to follow your religion or pray to your god or teach the bible to people etc....as that is against their freedom as well.

Basically both religion and secularims have to coexist in order for society to work. They are not really enemies as people think.

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Religion and politics go hand in hand wether you like it or not. It is a reality of this world. Religious values inspire people and bills and idealogies, they do form the politics. Jesus in his time was making political stirs, not just religious one's. This is part of the reason why the Romans wanted him dead, he was causing trouble to them.

The act of him riding on the Donkey was a political statement as much as it was a religious one. It was seen as a mocker of the roman nobels who came into Jerusalme on horses, and the Jews hated the Romans, so they swung palm tree leaves at Jesus when he entered the city, palm trees were a symbol of Jewish liberation.

Secularism and religion are not really enemies, they can both coexist. However to try to seperate religion from politics is impossible. It's not a bad thing IMO as long as it doesn't create a theocracy like the Catholic Church in the middle ages.

Seperation of Church and State is from a quote, it is not in the Constitution at all. It refers to stopping things like a State Church from forming, not religion or religious expression in politics.

ShadowMoses900

I find it ironic, for instance, that those who brandish Christian values as a political tool often decry the threat of Sharia Law in our government.

Religion motivated stances have no place in a free society.

Depends on what you are referring to. Religion inspires things and is the bases for many movements and ideas, this country was actually founded on many religious ideas (it was founded on other ideas too).

As you can see, religious stances do have a place in a free society, to stop religion is to stop living in a free society, it becomes oppressive at that point as it is trampiling on other's religious rights.

The opposite is also true as well in many circumstances, you cannot force someone to follow your religion or pray to your god or teach the bible to people etc....as that is against their freedom as well.

Basically both religion and secularims have to coexist in order for society to work. They are not really enemies as people think.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

Jesus didn't create universal health care in Israel so he would do it here.

/moses "logic"

Brosephus_Rex

So you have no proof that Jesus would keep people in prisons? Thought so. His whole idea was forgive people and love your enemies and show them mercy, he would not have the death penalty and he would not lock people up either. That would be harming them wouldn't it? Do you have an example that Jesus would do this?

And obviously Jesus would be in favor of social programs for the poor. He would be against having wealth entirely, this would make him a communist in many people's eyes.

Point being, he wasn't a pacifist (see temple) and extrapolations thereof are broken at the stem. Moreover, personal forgiveness of wrongdoing is separable from action pertaining to public safety by public authorities. Verdict: You are certifiable.

Actually, Moses is trolling. God damn it.

Jesus did not harm anyone in the Temple, he just knocked over some tables and yelled at people, he didn't phyically harm anyone.

Jesus was against killing and hurtng people, this is why there would be no military if he was a president. He would be against harming criminals and would do things like get rid of our nukes and get rid of our military.

It says it all in the bible, he says he is against harmin people and to turn the othe cheek etc....what makes you think he would not do this with foreign policy? See Christians would not vote for Jesus.

I'd want to know what his stance on the Glass-Steagal act would be.

[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

So you have no proof that Jesus would keep people in prisons? Thought so. His whole idea was forgive people and love your enemies and show them mercy, he would not have the death penalty and he would not lock people up either. That would be harming them wouldn't it? Do you have an example that Jesus would do this?

And obviously Jesus would be in favor of social programs for the poor. He would be against having wealth entirely, this would make him a communist in many people's eyes.

ShadowMoses900

Point being, he wasn't a pacifist (see temple) and extrapolations thereof are broken at the stem. Moreover, personal forgiveness of wrongdoing is separable from action pertaining to public safety by public authorities. Verdict: You are certifiable.

Actually, Moses is trolling. God damn it.

Jesus did not harm anyone in the Temple, he just knocked over some tables and yelled at people, he didn't phyically harm anyone.

Jesus was against killing and hurtng people, this is why there would be no military if he was a president. He would be against harming criminals and would do things like get rid of our nukes and get rid of our military.

It says it all in the bible, he says he is against harmin people and to turn the othe cheek etc....what makes you think he would not do this with foreign policy? See Christians would not vote for Jesus.

You should try reading your posts. This line of discussion is an abortion. The holocaust pales in contrast, implications being what they are.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

Point being, he wasn't a pacifist (see temple) and extrapolations thereof are broken at the stem. Moreover, personal forgiveness of wrongdoing is separable from action pertaining to public safety by public authorities. Verdict: You are certifiable.

Actually, Moses is trolling. God damn it.

Brosephus_Rex

Jesus did not harm anyone in the Temple, he just knocked over some tables and yelled at people, he didn't phyically harm anyone.

Jesus was against killing and hurtng people, this is why there would be no military if he was a president. He would be against harming criminals and would do things like get rid of our nukes and get rid of our military.

It says it all in the bible, he says he is against harmin people and to turn the othe cheek etc....what makes you think he would not do this with foreign policy? See Christians would not vote for Jesus.

You should try reading your posts. This line of discussion is an abortion. The holocaust pales in contrast, implications being what they are.

I'd want to know what his stance on the Glass-Steagal act would be.

sonicare

That was p. inconsequential and more of a sympbolic act representative of what outdated regulations did well prior.

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Point being, he wasn't a pacifist (see temple) and extrapolations thereof are broken at the stem. Moreover, personal forgiveness of wrongdoing is separable from action pertaining to public safety by public authorities. Verdict: You are certifiable.

Actually, Moses is trolling. God damn it.

Brosephus_Rex

Jesus did not harm anyone in the Temple, he just knocked over some tables and yelled at people, he didn't phyically harm anyone.

Jesus was against killing and hurtng people, this is why there would be no military if he was a president. He would be against harming criminals and would do things like get rid of our nukes and get rid of our military.

It says it all in the bible, he says he is against harmin people and to turn the othe cheek etc....what makes you think he would not do this with foreign policy? See Christians would not vote for Jesus.

You should try reading your posts. This line of discussion is an abortion. The holocaust pales in contrast, implications being what they are.

How stupid. You clearly have no argument against this, I am not advocating for these things, I am saying that these are political positions Jesus would take, the bible supports it. Don't get mad at me for telling it like it is, if Jesus ran for office no one would vote for him, not even Christians. His policies would not work in the world.

Religion motivated stances have no place in a free society.mattbbpl

I don't precisely agree with that. I do agree that if a political stance has no motivation behind it apart from enforcing religious tenents, then it should not become law.

But this is true, in my opinion, not only for religion but for any moral code. If you have a moral opposition to something but there is not another motivation for why it should be illegal, then it should not be made illegal.