What is abiogenesis?

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]We don't claim to know, we claim to beleive we know what happened. Big difference. The bible is not science, its faith and beleif. T123625

No i don't dissmiss them i see them as ilogical. Possibly the way you see christianity. No i actually beleived in Evolution, untill i found out its all theory and speculation. Also beleived we came from a rock once two and big bang, though now i see them as illogical. Have you ever tired learning about christianity? if not thats a double standard.

(Don't comment on my view on evolution, mr monkey sig guy.)

You really need to learn how science works, just because something is a theory, does not mean it's not true, just look at gravitational theory, and pure speculation would imply a lack of evidence, but evolutionhas alot.

[QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]We don't claim to know, we claim to beleive we know what happened. Big difference. The bible is not science, its faith and beleif. TOfficialJab

No i don't dissmiss them i see them as ilogical. Possibly the way you see christianity. No i actually beleived in Evolution, untill i found out its all theory and speculation. Also beleived we came from a rock once two and big bang, though now i see them as illogical. Have you ever tired learning about christianity? if not thats a double standard.

(Don't comment on my view on evolution, mr monkey sig guy.)

No Religion is not theory and speculation, its a beleif and faith. They are not theories, they are beleifs.

[QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]We don't claim to know, we claim to beleive we know what happened. Big difference. The bible is not science, its faith and beleif. Tyoshi-lnex

No i don't dissmiss them i see them as ilogical. Possibly the way you see christianity. No i actually beleived in Evolution, untill i found out its all theory and speculation. Also beleived we came from a rock once two and big bang, though now i see them as illogical. Have you ever tired learning about christianity? if not thats a double standard.

(Don't comment on my view on evolution, mr monkey sig guy.)

Evolution doesn't state that we came from the big bang, nor does it state that we came from a rock....

You really need to learn how science works, just because something is a theory, does not mean it's not true, just look at gravitational theory, and pure speculation would imply a lack of evidence, but evolution has a lot.

A lot of evidence based on imagination that is.

[QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]We don't claim to know, we claim to beleive we know what happened. Big difference. The bible is not science, its faith and beleif. Tyoshi-lnex

No i don't dissmiss them i see them as ilogical. Possibly the way you see christianity. No i actually beleived in Evolution, untill i found out its all theory and speculation. Also beleived we came from a rock once two and big bang, though now i see them as illogical. Have you ever tired learning about christianity? if not thats a double standard.

(Don't comment on my view on evolution, mr monkey sig guy.)

You really need to learn how science works, just because something is a theory, does not mean it's not true, just look at gravitational theory, and pure speculation would imply a lack of evidence, but evolutionhas alot.

See i don't think i ever said it did, did i ? I simply said i used to beleive in it all, you need to be able to read. I just said i see such theories as nonsense.

I remember it in conjunction with 10th grade biology, flies, and raw meat in a sealed jar. That's about it. Elraptor

I remember that. It was an experiment that showed that life didn't come out of nowhere like people thought before. Some guy put flies in a jar, and it turned out they multiplied, but if no flies were inside a jar, the jar did not spontaneously make flies. Something like that atleast.

[QUOTE="Elraptor"]I remember it in conjunction with 10th grade biology, flies, and raw meat in a sealed jar. That's about it. TongHua

I remember that. It was an experiment that showed that life didn't come out of nowhere like people thought before. Some guy put flies in a jar, and it turned out they multiplied, but if no flies were inside a jar, the jar did not spontaneously make flies. Something like that atleast.

It doesn't disprove that life comes from nowhere entirely.

It disproves that it just magically pops up in any environment.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]We don't claim to know, we claim to beleive we know what happened. Big difference. The bible is not science, its faith and beleif. TRevinh

No i don't dissmiss them i see them as ilogical. Possibly the way you see christianity. No i actually beleived in Evolution, untill i found out its all theory and speculation. Also beleived we came from a rock once two and big bang, though now i see them as illogical. Have you ever tired learning about christianity? if not thats a double standard.

(Don't comment on my view on evolution, mr monkey sig guy.)

Evolution doesn't state that we came from the big bang, nor does it state that we came from a rock....

You really need to learn how science works, just because something is a theory, does not mean it's not true, just look at gravitational theory, and pure speculation would imply a lack of evidence, but evolution has a lot.

A lot of evidence based on imagination that is.

Let's see there's;

The fossil record

Evidence within DNA such as redundant and junk dna

vestigial structures

evidence from comparitive anatomy

evidence from continental

universal biochemical organization

molecular varience patters.

ect. ect.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]We don't claim to know, we claim to beleive we know what happened. Big difference. The bible is not science, its faith and beleif. T123625

No i don't dissmiss them i see them as ilogical. Possibly the way you see christianity. No i actually beleived in Evolution, untill i found out its all theory and speculation. Also beleived we came from a rock once two and big bang, though now i see them as illogical. Have you ever tired learning about christianity? if not thats a double standard.

(Don't comment on my view on evolution, mr monkey sig guy.)

You really need to learn how science works, just because something is a theory, does not mean it's not true, just look at gravitational theory, and pure speculation would imply a lack of evidence, but evolutionhas alot.

See i don't think i ever said it did, did i ? I simply said i used to beleive in it all, you need to be able to read. I just said i see such theories as nonsense.

You haven't given any evidence contrary to evolution, and you haven't provided any for your side of things, and that's exactly why creationists are not taken seriously by the scientific community; they never provide evidence in favor of their beliefs, and they never present evidence contrary to evolution, yet they hold their beliefs despite the obvious reality that the evidence for evolution is overwhelming.

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]We don't claim to know, we claim to beleive we know what happened. Big difference. The bible is not science, its faith and beleif. Tyoshi-lnex

No i don't dissmiss them i see them as ilogical. Possibly the way you see christianity. No i actually beleived in Evolution, untill i found out its all theory and speculation. Also beleived we came from a rock once two and big bang, though now i see them as illogical. Have you ever tired learning about christianity? if not thats a double standard.

(Don't comment on my view on evolution, mr monkey sig guy.)

Evolution doesn't state that we came from the big bang, nor does it state that we came from a rock....

You really need to learn how science works, just because something is a theory, does not mean it's not true, just look at gravitational theory, and pure speculation would imply a lack of evidence, but evolution has a lot.

A lot of evidence based on imagination that is.

Let's see there's;

The fossil record

Evidence within DNA such as redundant and junk dna

vestigial structures

evidence from comparitive anatomy

evidence from continental

universal biochemical organization

molecular varience patters.

ect. ect.

there's no reason to argue him. He automatically dismisses anything, no matter how much of a fact it is.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]We don't claim to know, we claim to beleive we know what happened. Big difference. The bible is not science, its faith and beleif. Tyoshi-lnex

No i don't dissmiss them i see them as ilogical. Possibly the way you see christianity. No i actually beleived in Evolution, untill i found out its all theory and speculation. Also beleived we came from a rock once two and big bang, though now i see them as illogical. Have you ever tired learning about christianity? if not thats a double standard.

(Don't comment on my view on evolution, mr monkey sig guy.)

You really need to learn how science works, just because something is a theory, does not mean it's not true, just look at gravitational theory, and pure speculation would imply a lack of evidence, but evolutionhas alot.

See i don't think i ever said it did, did i ? I simply said i used to beleive in it all, you need to be able to read. I just said i see such theories as nonsense.

You haven't given any evidence contrary to evolution, and you haven't provided any for your side of things, and that's exactly why creationists are not taken seriously by the scientific community; they never provide evidence in favor of their beliefs, and they never present evidence contrary to evolution, yet they hold their beliefs despite the obvious reality that the evidence for evolution is overwhelming.

[QUOTE="bobaban"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

...it's impossible

nothing is going to happen if you just put the right chemicals together. it's not gonna be alive.

Revinh

But has He ever been disproven? (the sig is so... amazing)

Well, there's the law of biogenesis. Life can only come from pre-existing life. So I guess that proves God.

You should really do some research before throwing out the possibilities. Anytime there is a hole in a theory every religious fanatic attributes the reason to god. Because its the simple solution God is the answer to whatever answer we can't conceive. There is supporting evidence for RNA strands to be formed in a reducing environment which the earth's atmosphere once was at a time. It's jsut too conicendental not to have happened in that way just like evoultion. Again this is just the HOW. Not the WHY. Which will always remain a mystery.

You should really read my previous posts before throwing a reply.

First, it's impossible for an extremely complex cell to even form at random. Amino acids would have to be in complicated chains to form a protein.

And even if that's possible, you can form all the RNA, amino acids, or whatever essential components...it still won't come to life. You'd have to "turn it on."

And no, I'm not using God as an answer to something I can't conceive. It's a logical conclusion. If life can only come from pre-existing life then there must be a Life-Giver, the source and origin of life.

I can see you know nothing about the theory about abiogenesis. The cell didn't just appear at random.There were a huge number of occurences that created the cell. Such as endosymbiosis where one cell consumed another and used it as a powerhouse (now known as the mitochondria). There is DNA evidence linking this as well. There is nothing to turn on....that's basically you're creationist beliefs at work. Life CAN come from non-life, BUT only when the earth was in a reducing environment(where molecules are combined). The earth now has an oxidizing environment where bigger molecules are broken down. Please don't comback with intelligent design that's just creationism in disguise.

P.S. I'm not saying their isn't a God, external force, etc nor am I saying there is. But there is enough scientific evidence to show how life may arise from non-life.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]We don't claim to know, we claim to beleive we know what happened. Big difference. The bible is not science, its faith and beleif. TC_Town_Soul

No i don't dissmiss them i see them as ilogical. Possibly the way you see christianity. No i actually beleived in Evolution, untill i found out its all theory and speculation. Also beleived we came from a rock once two and big bang, though now i see them as illogical. Have you ever tired learning about christianity? if not thats a double standard.

(Don't comment on my view on evolution, mr monkey sig guy.)

You really need to learn how science works, just because something is a theory, does not mean it's not true, just look at gravitational theory, and pure speculation would imply a lack of evidence, but evolutionhas alot.

See i don't think i ever said it did, did i ? I simply said i used to beleive in it all, you need to be able to read. I just said i see such theories as nonsense.

You haven't given any evidence contrary to evolution, and you haven't provided any for your side of things, and that's exactly why creationists are not taken seriously by the scientific community; they never provide evidence in favor of their beliefs, and they never present evidence contrary to evolution, yet they hold their beliefs despite the obvious reality that the evidence for evolution is overwhelming.

Im not trying to give evidence. Whats your point? This is not an evolution thread its abiogenesis. I was simply telling i don't beleive in Evolution. We're not discussing it here. :roll: by the way don't criticise me for not beleiving a theory.

[QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]We don't claim to know, we claim to beleive we know what happened. Big difference. The bible is not science, its faith and beleif. T123625

No i don't dissmiss them i see them as ilogical. Possibly the way you see christianity. No i actually beleived in Evolution, untill i found out its all theory and speculation. Also beleived we came from a rock once two and big bang, though now i see them as illogical. Have you ever tired learning about christianity? if not thats a double standard.

(Don't comment on my view on evolution, mr monkey sig guy.)

You really need to learn how science works, just because something is a theory, does not mean it's not true, just look at gravitational theory, and pure speculation would imply a lack of evidence, but evolutionhas alot.

See i don't think i ever said it did, did i ? I simply said i used to beleive in it all, you need to be able to read. I just said i see such theories as nonsense.

You haven't given any evidence contrary to evolution, and you haven't provided any for your side of things, and that's exactly why creationists are not taken seriously by the scientific community; they never provide evidence in favor of their beliefs, and they never present evidence contrary to evolution, yet they hold their beliefs despite the obvious reality that the evidence for evolution is overwhelming.

Im not trying to give evidence. Whats your point? This is not an evolution thread its abiogenesis. I was simply telling i don't beleive in Evolution. We're not discussing it here. :roll:

Your cutting corners...just putting that out there.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]We don't claim to know, we claim to beleive we know what happened. Big difference. The bible is not science, its faith and beleif. TxxDustmanxx

No i don't dissmiss them i see them as ilogical. Possibly the way you see christianity. No i actually beleived in Evolution, untill i found out its all theory and speculation. Also beleived we came from a rock once two and big bang, though now i see them as illogical. Have you ever tired learning about christianity? if not thats a double standard.

(Don't comment on my view on evolution, mr monkey sig guy.)

You really need to learn how science works, just because something is a theory, does not mean it's not true, just look at gravitational theory, and pure speculation would imply a lack of evidence, but evolutionhas alot.

See i don't think i ever said it did, did i ? I simply said i used to beleive in it all, you need to be able to read. I just said i see such theories as nonsense.

You haven't given any evidence contrary to evolution, and you haven't provided any for your side of things, and that's exactly why creationists are not taken seriously by the scientific community; they never provide evidence in favor of their beliefs, and they never present evidence contrary to evolution, yet they hold their beliefs despite the obvious reality that the evidence for evolution is overwhelming.

Im not trying to give evidence. Whats your point? This is not an evolution thread its abiogenesis. I was simply telling i don't beleive in Evolution. We're not discussing it here. :roll:

Your cutting corners...just putting that out there.

No im simply saying the truth. Don't change the subject.

I found this to be informative.gobo212

I found this to be informative.gobo212

I found that video series to be incredibly informative and entertaining.123652 should take a look at it.So should revinh.

By the way gobo, thanks for posting that up, i really enjoyed it.

[QUOTE="gobo212"]I found this to be informative.C_Town_Soul

Ah I skimmed to see if anyone had posted it but I didn't see it. There is a lot of pointless arguing to sift through.

[QUOTE="gobo212"]I found this to be informative.C_Town_Soul

oh it was you, i saw it, it was great.

[QUOTE="gobo212"]I found this to be informative.xxDustmanxx

I found that video series to be incredibly informative and entertaining.123652 should take a look at it.So should revinh.

By the way gobo, thanks for posting that up, i really enjoyed it.

Yeah, it's a good series. It presents complicated subjects in a way a lay person can understand it without dumbing it down TOO much.

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]We don't claim to know, we claim to beleive we know what happened. Big difference. The bible is not science, its faith and beleif. Tyoshi-lnex

No i don't dissmiss them i see them as ilogical. Possibly the way you see christianity. No i actually beleived in Evolution, untill i found out its all theory and speculation. Also beleived we came from a rock once two and big bang, though now i see them as illogical. Have you ever tired learning about christianity? if not thats a double standard.

(Don't comment on my view on evolution, mr monkey sig guy.)

Evolution doesn't state that we came from the big bang, nor does it state that we came from a rock....

You really need to learn how science works, just because something is a theory, does not mean it's not true, just look at gravitational theory, and pure speculation would imply a lack of evidence, but evolution has a lot.

A lot of evidence based on imagination that is.

Let's see there's;

The fossil record

Evidence within DNA such as redundant and junk dna

vestigial structures

evidence from comparitive anatomy

evidence from continental

universal biochemical organization

molecular varience patters.

ect. ect.

I know. Like I said, it has overwhelming evidence based on imagination.

It's a lot of interpretation based on preconceived ideas.

I know. Like I said, it has overwhelming evidence based on imagination.

It's a lot of interpretation based on preconceived ideas.

Revinh

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="bobaban"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

...it's impossible

nothing is going to happen if you just put the right chemicals together. it's not gonna be alive.

bobaban

But has He ever been disproven? (the sig is so... amazing)

No, but that's not my point. I was just saying that if abiogenesis was impossible, as that guy said, then God would've been proven. At least, I assume so... It's either one or the other, right? Oh, and thanks. :P

Well, there's the law of biogenesis. Life can only come from pre-existing life. So I guess that proves God.

You should really do some research before throwing out the possibilities. Anytime there is a hole in a theory every religious fanatic attributes the reason to god. Because its the simple solution God is the answer to whatever answer we can't conceive. There is supporting evidence for RNA strands to be formed in a reducing environment which the earth's atmosphere once was at a time. It's jsut too conicendental not to have happened in that way just like evoultion. Again this is just the HOW. Not the WHY. Which will always remain a mystery.

You should really read my previous posts before throwing a reply.

First, it's impossible for an extremely complex cell to even form at random. Amino acids would have to be in complicated chains to form a protein.

And even if that's possible, you can form all the RNA, amino acids, or whatever essential components...it still won't come to life. You'd have to "turn it on."

And no, I'm not using God as an answer to something I can't conceive. It's a logical conclusion. If life can only come from pre-existing life then there must be a Life-Giver, the source and origin of life.

I can see you know nothing about the theory about abiogenesis. The cell didn't just appear at random.There were a huge number of occurences that created the cell. Such as endosymbiosis where one cell consumed another and used it as a powerhouse (now known as the mitochondria). There is DNA evidence linking this as well. There is nothing to turn on....that's basically you're creationist beliefs at work. Life CAN come from non-life, BUT only when the earth was in a reducing environment(where molecules are combined). The earth now has an oxidizing environment where bigger molecules are broken down. Please don't comback with intelligent design that's just creationism in disguise.

P.S. I'm not saying their isn't a God, external force, etc nor am I saying there is. But there is enough scientific evidence to show how life may arise from non-life.

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

I know. Like I said, it has overwhelming evidence based on imagination.

It's a lot of interpretation based on preconceived ideas.

C_Town_Soul

I'm saying the evidences hardly supports the theory. They're overstated and interpreted to fit their belief.

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

Revinh

[QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

I know. Like I said, it has overwhelming evidence based on imagination.

It's a lot of interpretation based on preconceived ideas.

Revinh

I'm saying the evidences hardly supports the theory. They're overstated and interpreted to fit their belief.

[QUOTE="bobaban"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="bobaban"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

...it's impossible

nothing is going to happen if you just put the right chemicals together. it's not gonna be alive.

Revinh

But has He ever been disproven? (the sig is so... amazing)

No, but that's not my point. I was just saying that if abiogenesis was impossible, as that guy said, then God would've been proven. At least, I assume so... It's either one or the other, right? Oh, and thanks. :P

Well, there's the law of biogenesis. Life can only come from pre-existing life. So I guess that proves God.

You should really do some research before throwing out the possibilities. Anytime there is a hole in a theory every religious fanatic attributes the reason to god. Because its the simple solution God is the answer to whatever answer we can't conceive. There is supporting evidence for RNA strands to be formed in a reducing environment which the earth's atmosphere once was at a time. It's jsut too conicendental not to have happened in that way just like evoultion. Again this is just the HOW. Not the WHY. Which will always remain a mystery.

You should really read my previous posts before throwing a reply.

First, it's impossible for an extremely complex cell to even form at random. Amino acids would have to be in complicated chains to form a protein.

And even if that's possible, you can form all the RNA, amino acids, or whatever essential components...it still won't come to life. You'd have to "turn it on."

And no, I'm not using God as an answer to something I can't conceive. It's a logical conclusion. If life can only come from pre-existing life then there must be a Life-Giver, the source and origin of life.

I can see you know nothing about the theory about abiogenesis. The cell didn't just appear at random.There were a huge number of occurences that created the cell. Such as endosymbiosis where one cell consumed another and used it as a powerhouse (now known as the mitochondria). There is DNA evidence linking this as well. There is nothing to turn on....that's basically you're creationist beliefs at work. Life CAN come from non-life, BUT only when the earth was in a reducing environment(where molecules are combined). The earth now has an oxidizing environment where bigger molecules are broken down. Please don't comback with intelligent design that's just creationism in disguise.

P.S. I'm not saying their isn't a God, external force, etc nor am I saying there is. But there is enough scientific evidence to show how life may arise from non-life.

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

Yes, you did say at random. Do you know what you are even saying? So complicated?

No. I really could go into detail about chemcial affinities and bond formations. But you'll throw it out the window like every other religious fanatic and say it was designed by God (which I said earlier don't comback with intelligent design). Where is YOUR evidence that if the essential elements came together nothing would happen.

That's what I thought you have none.

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

C_Town_Soul

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

[QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

xxDustmanxx

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

Hes delusional because he doesnt beleive we came from dead matter?

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

123625

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

Hes delusional because he doesnt beleive we came from dead matter?

WTF is dead matter?

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

123625

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

Hes delusional because he doesnt beleive we came from dead matter?

your hopeless...

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

123625

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

Hes delusional because he doesnt beleive we came from dead matter?

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

xxDustmanxx

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

Hes delusional because he doesnt beleive we came from dead matter?

your hopeless...

Sorry i mistyped my mind on something else. Im not hopeless i made a mistake. I meant non living

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

C_Town_Soul

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

Hes delusional because he doesnt beleive we came from dead matter?

Made a mistake. non living*

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

gobo212

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

Hes delusional because he doesnt beleive we came from dead matter?

WTF is dead matter?

Sorry made a mistake Non living*

[QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

123625

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

Hes delusional because he doesnt beleive we came from dead matter?

Made a mistake. non living*

I have a question, if i post a video will you watch it?

[QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

xxDustmanxx

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

123625

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

Hes delusional because he doesnt beleive we came from dead matter?

"dead" implies that matter was once living.

And no, he is delusional because he refuses to give ground to any reason, not that he does not find any validity in the theory of abiogenesis.

No one said a creator couldn't have planned life through abiogenesis, so I don't know whats his problem is.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

xxDustmanxx

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

Hes delusional because he doesnt beleive we came from dead matter?

Made a mistake. non living*

I have a question, if i post a video will you watch it?

Life can't come from something non living so i don't see yor point. At least not by itself.

Life can't come from something non living so i don't see yor point.

123625

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

123625

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

Hes delusional because he doesnt beleive we came from dead matter?

Made a mistake. non living*

I have a question, if i post a video will you watch it?

Life can't come from something non living so i don't see yor point.

Who says life can't come from non life?

Life can't come from something non living so i don't see yor point. At least not by itself.

123625

Do you have indisputable proof that can back that up, and is in line with the known laws and theories of physics?

No one said a creator couldn't have planned life through abiogenesis, so I don't know whats his problem is.

The_Ish

But thats the whole agrument for religion you can't prove there ins't a God. I think there is a flying spagetti monster manipulating everything around us. Prove to me it doesn't exist.

[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

No one said a creator couldn't have planned life through abiogenesis, so I don't know whats his problem is.

bobaban

But thats the whole agrument for religion you can't prove there ins't a God. I think there is a flying spagetti monster manipulating everything around us. Prove to me it doesn't exist.

I can't. If you want to believe that, go ahead. I don't see the harm.

[QUOTE="123625"]

Life can't come from something non living so i don't see yor point. At least not by itself.

The_Ish

Do you have indisputable proof that can back that up, and is in line with the known laws and theories of physics?

Well im sorry i don't beleive it that we came from non living material (Quite possibly a rock) Billions of years ago. If you beleive in that you have more faith than i do. There is no proof of it ever happening by itself without help. So untill it has been proven that it happened by natural means, its theory. The only possible way i see something like that happening is if it was guided. Am i wrong? for not beleiving in a theory? Ill ask you that.

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

Uh, actually I know about the theory. I didn't say it appeared at random. I was saying it's impossible to have been formed without a Creator. It's extremely complicated it would have to be purposely designed. And again, even if the essential elements can come together it'd still be dead. It wouldn't come to life.

123625

Just drop it c_town hes delusional.

Hes delusional because he doesnt beleive we came from dead matter?

Made a mistake. non living*

I have a question, if i post a video will you watch it?

Life can't come from something non living so i don't see yor point. At least not by itself.

What does that have to do with my question.Your cutting corners again.

[QUOTE="bobaban"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

No one said a creator couldn't have planned life through abiogenesis, so I don't know whats his problem is.

The_Ish

But thats the whole agrument for religion you can't prove there ins't a God. I think there is a flying spagetti monster manipulating everything around us. Prove to me it doesn't exist.

I can't. If you want to believe that, go ahead. I don't see the harm.

But do you see the harm in spreading lies that evolution and abiogenesis are false?