What is all of this talk from white nationalist's?

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I'm not suggesting anything, just asking a simple question:

If all races are basically the same, why was the Europeans (whites) far superior to the other races when it came to civilized behaviour and technology before they introduced it to the other races?

Again, I'm only asking, and I'm interested in what your answers might be.

Liberalicide

Europeans just happened to be the ones that survived. Persia was civilized, just like Ancient Greece. But Philip II was born, and so was his son, Alexander III. Men, jsut as great as Cyrus (the ..creator of Persia), came in the right time, at the right place. What did it lead to? Eastern civilization fell to western hands, having only a half competent king (Darius III), they couldn't stand up on their own. Persia was conquored, and you all know the rest of the story. Alexander died, and his empire scattered. Ruining the Persian civilization, but keeping the western.

Same would have happened if it wasn't for Leonidas and the Spartans, if Xerxes had won, don't you think that today would be a little different? History wouldn't even be recognisable.

from what i gather of the persian empire, it was actually quite lously put together (large numbers, but almost none of them true warriors... rather slaves) and even if the great spartans fell I think someone else could have picked up the slack. Keep in mind the men and women of europe were pretty bad ass back in those times

That is quite - false. The Persian Empire was ruled by a king, and it wasn't more "barbaric" than other nations. Many European coutnries have been far more cruel. Slaves and slaves.. well, many were forced to fight. But it remains in modern times, if the US orders a draft.. will you not be a slave, at least temporarily?

It wasn't a wannabe empire, it was an empire. If it weren't for the Spartans Persia would most surely have occupied Greece. Sparta didn't do much for killing the Persians (sure, twenty thousand is qutie a number.. but was barely a scratch to the Persian army.. physically). What the Spartans did was increasing morale, and did so greatly. The Persians feared the Greeks, who wouldn't after such a terrible blow? While the rest of the Greeks assembled with courage beyond belief. It was probably one of the greatest moral victories in written history. 

[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]liberalicide i have a question what if one is 100% white but is not full french and has some other white cultures. where can he live in europe and can he live in a different euro country and adapt their culture and languge and live there like them? Liberalicide

if someone is white, then I suggest they live in their native homeland along with people of all races doing the same. The only time I think merging of two cultures would be okay is if lets say country 1 is about to collapse and country 2 decideds its gonna take over to ensure a stabe enviroment for the people.

I don't think any race has a homeland, because they've been migrating so many times, it's all a land grab. The white race grabbed Europe, and eventually, through force, North America. Now, due to the rising levels of technology, for the first time in recorded history, different races, cultures, and creeds and coexist peacefully. It's a seperation mentality that is breaking the country apart. If people would just realize that there's no real difference other than what we superficially impose on ourselves, we can shut up and go on with our lives.

[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]liberalicide i have a question what if one is 100% white but is not full french and has some other white cultures. where can he live in europe and can he live in a different euro country and adapt their culture and languge and live there like them? Liberalicide

if someone is white, then I suggest they live in their native homeland along with people of all races doing the same. The only time I think merging of two cultures would be okay is if lets say country 1 is about to collapse and country 2 decideds its gonna take over to ensure a stabe enviroment for the people.

[QUOTE="Liberalicide"]

[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]liberalicide i have a question what if one is 100% white but is not full french and has some other white cultures. where can he live in europe and can he live in a different euro country and adapt their culture and languge and live there like them? Greatgone12

if someone is white, then I suggest they live in their native homeland along with people of all races doing the same. The only time I think merging of two cultures would be okay is if lets say country 1 is about to collapse and country 2 decideds its gonna take over to ensure a stabe enviroment for the people.

I don't think any race has a homeland

We would technically all be African.. 

[QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"]

[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]liberalicide i have a question what if one is 100% white but is not full french and has some other white cultures. where can he live in europe and can he live in a different euro country and adapt their culture and languge and live there like them? Vfanek

if someone is white, then I suggest they live in their native homeland along with people of all races doing the same. The only time I think merging of two cultures would be okay is if lets say country 1 is about to collapse and country 2 decideds its gonna take over to ensure a stabe enviroment for the people.

I don't think any race has a homeland

We would technically all be African.. 

[QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I'm not suggesting anything, just asking a simple question:

If all races are basically the same, why was the Europeans (whites) far superior to the other races when it came to civilized behaviour and technology before they introduced it to the other races?

Again, I'm only asking, and I'm interested in what your answers might be.

Vfanek

Europeans just happened to be the ones that survived. Persia was civilized, just like Ancient Greece. But Philip II was born, and so was his son, Alexander III. Men, jsut as great as Cyrus (the ..creator of Persia), came in the right time, at the right place. What did it lead to? Eastern civilization fell to western hands, having only a half competent king (Darius III), they couldn't stand up on their own. Persia was conquored, and you all know the rest of the story. Alexander died, and his empire scattered. Ruining the Persian civilization, but keeping the western.

Same would have happened if it wasn't for Leonidas and the Spartans, if Xerxes had won, don't you think that today would be a little different? History wouldn't even be recognisable.

from what i gather of the persian empire, it was actually quite lously put together (large numbers, but almost none of them true warriors... rather slaves) and even if the great spartans fell I think someone else could have picked up the slack. Keep in mind the men and women of europe were pretty bad ass back in those times

That is quite - false. The Persian Empire was ruled by a king, and it wasn't more "barbaric" than other nations. Many European coutnries have been far more cruel. Slaves and slaves.. well, many were forced to fight. But it remains in modern times, if the US orders a draft.. will you not be a slave, at least temporarily?

It wasn't a wannabe empire, it was an empire. If it weren't for the Spartans Persia would most surely have occupied Greece. Sparta didn't do much for killing the Persians (sure, twenty thousand is qutie a number.. but was barely a scratch to the Persian army.. physically). What the Spartans did was increasing morale, and did so greatly. The Persians feared the Greeks, who wouldn't after such a terrible blow? While the rest of the Greeks assembled with courage beyond belief. It was probably one of the greatest moral victories in written history.

im not saying it wasnt a great feat for the spartans to do what they did, and eventually what all of greece did. im saying that if a bunch of persians decided to try and take over all of europe, they would have to actually fight ALL of europe. which would b absolutely impossible for them. In my humble opinion.

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I'm not suggesting anything, just asking a simple question:

If all races are basically the same, why was the Europeans (whites) far superior to the other races when it came to civilized behaviour and technology before they introduced it to the other races?

Again, I'm only asking, and I'm interested in what your answers might be.

Vfanek

name some technology. I can't think of any.

Gunpowder 

true and the Chinese are actually rather famous because of that. But the Europeans were the ones who developed it.

and the Europeans were the ones who invented the printing press...one of the most important inventions in history.

Can you explain why the caucasian race ruled and still rules the world? It's a fact... the US and the EU are the main super powers of this world, and both are ruled/was created by caucasians. I sure as hell can't.

again, I'm not a racist, just curious.

[QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"]

[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]liberalicide i have a question what if one is 100% white but is not full french and has some other white cultures. where can he live in europe and can he live in a different euro country and adapt their culture and languge and live there like them? Vfanek

if someone is white, then I suggest they live in their native homeland along with people of all races doing the same. The only time I think merging of two cultures would be okay is if lets say country 1 is about to collapse and country 2 decideds its gonna take over to ensure a stabe enviroment for the people.

I don't think any race has a homeland

We would technically all be African..

if im technically african, then how come I CANT get sicklecell?  

Wow I just checked that site out. What a bunch of complete ****ing freaks. Some guys going nuts because bush made may some jew history month or something. They go on about white rights yet everything is white male. So there are no white females huh? Those people are scum if they every tried to get me to join it punch them in the face.

Wow I just checked that site out. What a bunch of complete ****ing freaks. Some guys going nuts because bush made may some jew history month or something. They go on about white rights yet everything is white male. So there are no white females huh? Those people are scum if they every tried to get me to join it punch them in the face.

darklord888

I think theyre pretty upset that in this society you can say black pride, jew pride etc etc but you cant say white pride. infact most white people are taught to feel guilty because of the advancements white europeans made.

And I absolutely refuse to feel guilty because black tribal leaders sold there own people to us. Call me crazy, But I dont feel guilty. I also dont feel guilty over the fact that they were enslaved, because GET THIS........

ALL ETHNICITIES HAVE BEEN SLAVES AT ONE POINT!

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I'm not suggesting anything, just asking a simple question:

If all races are basically the same, why was the Europeans (whites) far superior to the other races when it came to civilized behaviour and technology before they introduced it to the other races?

Again, I'm only asking, and I'm interested in what your answers might be.

Liberalicide

Europeans just happened to be the ones that survived. Persia was civilized, just like Ancient Greece. But Philip II was born, and so was his son, Alexander III. Men, jsut as great as Cyrus (the ..creator of Persia), came in the right time, at the right place. What did it lead to? Eastern civilization fell to western hands, having only a half competent king (Darius III), they couldn't stand up on their own. Persia was conquored, and you all know the rest of the story. Alexander died, and his empire scattered. Ruining the Persian civilization, but keeping the western.

Same would have happened if it wasn't for Leonidas and the Spartans, if Xerxes had won, don't you think that today would be a little different? History wouldn't even be recognisable.

from what i gather of the persian empire, it was actually quite lously put together (large numbers, but almost none of them true warriors... rather slaves) and even if the great spartans fell I think someone else could have picked up the slack. Keep in mind the men and women of europe were pretty bad ass back in those times

That is quite - false. The Persian Empire was ruled by a king, and it wasn't more "barbaric" than other nations. Many European coutnries have been far more cruel. Slaves and slaves.. well, many were forced to fight. But it remains in modern times, if the US orders a draft.. will you not be a slave, at least temporarily?

It wasn't a wannabe empire, it was an empire. If it weren't for the Spartans Persia would most surely have occupied Greece. Sparta didn't do much for killing the Persians (sure, twenty thousand is qutie a number.. but was barely a scratch to the Persian army.. physically). What the Spartans did was increasing morale, and did so greatly. The Persians feared the Greeks, who wouldn't after such a terrible blow? While the rest of the Greeks assembled with courage beyond belief. It was probably one of the greatest moral victories in written history.

im not saying it wasnt a great feat for the spartans to do what they did, and eventually what all of greece did. im saying that if a bunch of persians decided to try and take over all of europe, they would have to actually fight ALL of europe. which would b absolutely impossible for them. In my humble opinion.

It would be easy, to say the least. Europe was nothing but a bunch of unorganized clans. Europe was.. nothing back then. Few countries hadn't even invented the bow, Persia would have rolled over Europe without the slightest problem. So would Greece if it was what they wanted. Just look at Caesars victory against the Gauls.. And the Gauls were far more organized then Europe was. 

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I'm not suggesting anything, just asking a simple question:

If all races are basically the same, why was the Europeans (whites) far superior to the other races when it came to civilized behaviour and technology before they introduced it to the other races?

Again, I'm only asking, and I'm interested in what your answers might be.

jointed

name some technology. I can't think of any.

Gunpowder

true and the Chinese are actually rather famous because of that. But the Europeans were the ones who developed it.

and the Europeans were the ones who invented the printing press...one of the most important inventions in history.

Can you explain why the caucasian race ruled and still rules the world? It's a fact... the US and the EU are the main super powers of this world, and both are ruled/was created by caucasians. I sure as hell can't.

again, I'm not a racist, just curious.

Arabs 'invented' the Arab numbers. 0123456789. Our religion is largely based on Eastern religions. And same question could be asked to you when Persia was the superpower. The Ottomans for that matter. It just happens to be the U.S and Europe at the moment. This might very well chagne in a hundred or a thousand years.

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"]

[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]liberalicide i have a question what if one is 100% white but is not full french and has some other white cultures. where can he live in europe and can he live in a different euro country and adapt their culture and languge and live there like them? Liberalicide

if someone is white, then I suggest they live in their native homeland along with people of all races doing the same. The only time I think merging of two cultures would be okay is if lets say country 1 is about to collapse and country 2 decideds its gonna take over to ensure a stabe enviroment for the people.

I don't think any race has a homeland

We would technically all be African..

if im technically african, then how come I CANT get sicklecell?

Wait, didn't the human race originate from Africa? 

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"]

[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]liberalicide i have a question what if one is 100% white but is not full french and has some other white cultures. where can he live in europe and can he live in a different euro country and adapt their culture and languge and live there like them? Liberalicide

if someone is white, then I suggest they live in their native homeland along with people of all races doing the same. The only time I think merging of two cultures would be okay is if lets say country 1 is about to collapse and country 2 decideds its gonna take over to ensure a stabe enviroment for the people.

I don't think any race has a homeland

We would technically all be African..

if im technically african, then how come I CANT get sicklecell?  

EDIT: Oh yeah, and sickle cell is prevalent in Africa along with the previously mentioned areas due to previous outbreaks of malaria, and studies have shown that malaria and sickle cell are related.

[QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I'm not suggesting anything, just asking a simple question:

If all races are basically the same, why was the Europeans (whites) far superior to the other races when it came to civilized behaviour and technology before they introduced it to the other races?

Again, I'm only asking, and I'm interested in what your answers might be.

Vfanek

Europeans just happened to be the ones that survived. Persia was civilized, just like Ancient Greece. But Philip II was born, and so was his son, Alexander III. Men, jsut as great as Cyrus (the ..creator of Persia), came in the right time, at the right place. What did it lead to? Eastern civilization fell to western hands, having only a half competent king (Darius III), they couldn't stand up on their own. Persia was conquored, and you all know the rest of the story. Alexander died, and his empire scattered. Ruining the Persian civilization, but keeping the western.

Same would have happened if it wasn't for Leonidas and the Spartans, if Xerxes had won, don't you think that today would be a little different? History wouldn't even be recognisable.

from what i gather of the persian empire, it was actually quite lously put together (large numbers, but almost none of them true warriors... rather slaves) and even if the great spartans fell I think someone else could have picked up the slack. Keep in mind the men and women of europe were pretty bad ass back in those times

That is quite - false. The Persian Empire was ruled by a king, and it wasn't more "barbaric" than other nations. Many European coutnries have been far more cruel. Slaves and slaves.. well, many were forced to fight. But it remains in modern times, if the US orders a draft.. will you not be a slave, at least temporarily?

It wasn't a wannabe empire, it was an empire. If it weren't for the Spartans Persia would most surely have occupied Greece. Sparta didn't do much for killing the Persians (sure, twenty thousand is qutie a number.. but was barely a scratch to the Persian army.. physically). What the Spartans did was increasing morale, and did so greatly. The Persians feared the Greeks, who wouldn't after such a terrible blow? While the rest of the Greeks assembled with courage beyond belief. It was probably one of the greatest moral victories in written history.

im not saying it wasnt a great feat for the spartans to do what they did, and eventually what all of greece did. im saying that if a bunch of persians decided to try and take over all of europe, they would have to actually fight ALL of europe. which would b absolutely impossible for them. In my humble opinion.

It would be easy, to say the least. Europe was nothing but a bunch of unorganized clans. Europe was.. nothing back then. Few countries hadn't even invented the bow, Persia would have rolled over Europe without the slightest problem. So would Greece if it was what they wanted. Just look at Caesars victory against the Gauls.. And the Gauls were far more organized then Europe was.

you have a pretty ignorant viewpoint of european history. the bow was invented before there were even white people. infact its called one of the first inventions. humanity had the bow back when we were ALL  in africa. as we evolved we didnt forget it.

seriously if you dont know something, dont comment on it. because it dosent help you at all.

Europe wasnt as unorganized as people were led to believe. Remember the roman texts about ancient europe was extremely biased. I suggest you do some research on the celts, and there much larger network with the germanic people.

Persia had many slaves fighting for them. If Persia wanted to take all of europe, they would not only have to fight the greeks, but also the celts, germans and slavs. You mean to tell me that army can take on an entire population of people?

Never would have happened. Not in a million years. you seem to fail to realize that not only would europe basically have some kind of unification by common enemy, you also fail to realize that the very formations the greeks had to defeat the persians would be learned rather quickly by the rest of europe. 

[QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"]

[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]liberalicide i have a question what if one is 100% white but is not full french and has some other white cultures. where can he live in europe and can he live in a different euro country and adapt their culture and languge and live there like them? Greatgone12

if someone is white, then I suggest they live in their native homeland along with people of all races doing the same. The only time I think merging of two cultures would be okay is if lets say country 1 is about to collapse and country 2 decideds its gonna take over to ensure a stabe enviroment for the people.

I don't think any race has a homeland

We would technically all be African..

if im technically african, then how come I CANT get sicklecell?

okay then why cant I get sickle cell? Im white. So I guess technically im not african like the rest of the world accord to your logic? I guess im an entire different animal or something?

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I'm not suggesting anything, just asking a simple question:

If all races are basically the same, why was the Europeans (whites) far superior to the other races when it came to civilized behaviour and technology before they introduced it to the other races?

Again, I'm only asking, and I'm interested in what your answers might be.

Liberalicide

Europeans just happened to be the ones that survived. Persia was civilized, just like Ancient Greece. But Philip II was born, and so was his son, Alexander III. Men, jsut as great as Cyrus (the ..creator of Persia), came in the right time, at the right place. What did it lead to? Eastern civilization fell to western hands, having only a half competent king (Darius III), they couldn't stand up on their own. Persia was conquored, and you all know the rest of the story. Alexander died, and his empire scattered. Ruining the Persian civilization, but keeping the western.

Same would have happened if it wasn't for Leonidas and the Spartans, if Xerxes had won, don't you think that today would be a little different? History wouldn't even be recognisable.

from what i gather of the persian empire, it was actually quite lously put together (large numbers, but almost none of them true warriors... rather slaves) and even if the great spartans fell I think someone else could have picked up the slack. Keep in mind the men and women of europe were pretty bad ass back in those times

That is quite - false. The Persian Empire was ruled by a king, and it wasn't more "barbaric" than other nations. Many European coutnries have been far more cruel. Slaves and slaves.. well, many were forced to fight. But it remains in modern times, if the US orders a draft.. will you not be a slave, at least temporarily?

It wasn't a wannabe empire, it was an empire. If it weren't for the Spartans Persia would most surely have occupied Greece. Sparta didn't do much for killing the Persians (sure, twenty thousand is qutie a number.. but was barely a scratch to the Persian army.. physically). What the Spartans did was increasing morale, and did so greatly. The Persians feared the Greeks, who wouldn't after such a terrible blow? While the rest of the Greeks assembled with courage beyond belief. It was probably one of the greatest moral victories in written history.

im not saying it wasnt a great feat for the spartans to do what they did, and eventually what all of greece did. im saying that if a bunch of persians decided to try and take over all of europe, they would have to actually fight ALL of europe. which would b absolutely impossible for them. In my humble opinion.

It would be easy, to say the least. Europe was nothing but a bunch of unorganized clans. Europe was.. nothing back then. Few countries hadn't even invented the bow, Persia would have rolled over Europe without the slightest problem. So would Greece if it was what they wanted. Just look at Caesars victory against the Gauls.. And the Gauls were far more organized then Europe was.

you have a pretty ignorant viewpoint of european history. the bow was invented before there were even white people. infact its called one of the first inventions. humanity had the bow back when we were ALL in africa. as we evolved we didnt forget it.

seriously if you dont know something, dont comment on it. because it dosent help you at all.

Europe wasnt as unorganized as people were led to believe. Remember the roman texts about ancient europe was extremely biased. I suggest you do some research on the celts, and there much larger network with the germanic people.

Persia had many slaves fighting for them. If Persia wanted to take all of europe, they would not only have to fight the greeks, but also the celts, germans and slavs. You mean to tell me that army can take on an entire population of people?

Never would have happened. Not in a million years. you seem to fail to realize that not only would europe basically have some kind of unification by common enemy, you also fail to realize that the very formations the greeks had to defeat the persians would be learned rather quickly by the rest of europe.

Of course, the bow have been around for a long time. But teh crafting and use of it was quickly forgotten. Some nations had it, some didn't. If you had done a little research, you would have learnt it yourself.

 The Celts were indeed.. large, but organized or disciplined? No, they weren't. They had war between themselves. Not much of a single "empire".

 Persia would, as I said, eat them alive. A large army fighting many small every now and then, not a problem. If they all got organized and united, well that would be misfortunate for Persia, but the odds of that happening were low to say the least.

You are wrong sir, Europe was nothing back then. 

[QUOTE="darklord888"]

Wow I just checked that site out. What a bunch of complete ****ing freaks. Some guys going nuts because bush made may some jew history month or something. They go on about white rights yet everything is white male. So there are no white females huh? Those people are scum if they every tried to get me to join it punch them in the face.

Liberalicide

I think theyre pretty upset that in this society you can say black pride, jew pride etc etc but you cant say white pride. infact most white people are taught to feel guilty because of the advancements white europeans made.

And I absolutely refuse to feel guilty because black tribal leaders sold there own people to us. Call me crazy, But I dont feel guilty. I also dont feel guilty over the fact that they were enslaved, because GET THIS........

ALL ETHNICITIES HAVE BEEN SLAVES AT ONE POINT!

[QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"]

[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]liberalicide i have a question what if one is 100% white but is not full french and has some other white cultures. where can he live in europe and can he live in a different euro country and adapt their culture and languge and live there like them? Liberalicide

if someone is white, then I suggest they live in their native homeland along with people of all races doing the same. The only time I think merging of two cultures would be okay is if lets say country 1 is about to collapse and country 2 decideds its gonna take over to ensure a stabe enviroment for the people.

I don't think any race has a homeland

We would technically all be African..

if im technically african, then how come I CANT get sicklecell?

okay then why cant I get sickle cell? Im white. So I guess technically im not african like the rest of the world accord to your logic? I guess im an entire different animal or something?

[QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="darklord888"]

Wow I just checked that site out. What a bunch of complete ****ing freaks. Some guys going nuts because bush made may some jew history month or something. They go on about white rights yet everything is white male. So there are no white females huh? Those people are scum if they every tried to get me to join it punch them in the face.

darklord888

I think theyre pretty upset that in this society you can say black pride, jew pride etc etc but you cant say white pride. infact most white people are taught to feel guilty because of the advancements white europeans made.

And I absolutely refuse to feel guilty because black tribal leaders sold there own people to us. Call me crazy, But I dont feel guilty. I also dont feel guilty over the fact that they were enslaved, because GET THIS........

ALL ETHNICITIES HAVE BEEN SLAVES AT ONE POINT!

 I can't help but laugh when they begin talking about how black men target white women for all rapes.

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I'm not suggesting anything, just asking a simple question:

If all races are basically the same, why was the Europeans (whites) far superior to the other races when it came to civilized behaviour and technology before they introduced it to the other races?

Again, I'm only asking, and I'm interested in what your answers might be.

Vfanek

name some technology. I can't think of any.

Gunpowder

true and the Chinese are actually rather famous because of that. But the Europeans were the ones who developed it.

and the Europeans were the ones who invented the printing press...one of the most important inventions in history.

Can you explain why the caucasian race ruled and still rules the world? It's a fact... the US and the EU are the main super powers of this world, and both are ruled/was created by caucasians. I sure as hell can't.

again, I'm not a racist, just curious.

Arabs 'invented' the Arab numbers. 0123456789. Our religion is largely based on Eastern religions. And same question could be asked to you when Persia was the superpower. The Ottomans for that matter. It just happens to be the U.S and Europe at the moment. This might very well chagne in a hundred or a thousand years.

That is partially true, but there's no denying that they've been controlling this globe far, far longer than any other civilizations.

 The Europeans (I'm using that word since every single white American comes from Europe ) was also the ones who discovered America before the other civilizations, yes there were people in America already but you can't call them civilized.

Basically, the Europeans have controlled the world for so long now, and show no signs of letting go, I just want to know why no other civilization has come close to what the Europeans have accomplished.

I'm of Indian decent so I'm neutral in this debate.

[QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I'm not suggesting anything, just asking a simple question:

If all races are basically the same, why was the Europeans (whites) far superior to the other races when it came to civilized behaviour and technology before they introduced it to the other races?

Again, I'm only asking, and I'm interested in what your answers might be.

Vfanek

Europeans just happened to be the ones that survived. Persia was civilized, just like Ancient Greece. But Philip II was born, and so was his son, Alexander III. Men, jsut as great as Cyrus (the ..creator of Persia), came in the right time, at the right place. What did it lead to? Eastern civilization fell to western hands, having only a half competent king (Darius III), they couldn't stand up on their own. Persia was conquored, and you all know the rest of the story. Alexander died, and his empire scattered. Ruining the Persian civilization, but keeping the western.

Same would have happened if it wasn't for Leonidas and the Spartans, if Xerxes had won, don't you think that today would be a little different? History wouldn't even be recognisable.

from what i gather of the persian empire, it was actually quite lously put together (large numbers, but almost none of them true warriors... rather slaves) and even if the great spartans fell I think someone else could have picked up the slack. Keep in mind the men and women of europe were pretty bad ass back in those times

That is quite - false. The Persian Empire was ruled by a king, and it wasn't more "barbaric" than other nations. Many European coutnries have been far more cruel. Slaves and slaves.. well, many were forced to fight. But it remains in modern times, if the US orders a draft.. will you not be a slave, at least temporarily?

It wasn't a wannabe empire, it was an empire. If it weren't for the Spartans Persia would most surely have occupied Greece. Sparta didn't do much for killing the Persians (sure, twenty thousand is qutie a number.. but was barely a scratch to the Persian army.. physically). What the Spartans did was increasing morale, and did so greatly. The Persians feared the Greeks, who wouldn't after such a terrible blow? While the rest of the Greeks assembled with courage beyond belief. It was probably one of the greatest moral victories in written history.

im not saying it wasnt a great feat for the spartans to do what they did, and eventually what all of greece did. im saying that if a bunch of persians decided to try and take over all of europe, they would have to actually fight ALL of europe. which would b absolutely impossible for them. In my humble opinion.

It would be easy, to say the least. Europe was nothing but a bunch of unorganized clans. Europe was.. nothing back then. Few countries hadn't even invented the bow, Persia would have rolled over Europe without the slightest problem. So would Greece if it was what they wanted. Just look at Caesars victory against the Gauls.. And the Gauls were far more organized then Europe was.

you have a pretty ignorant viewpoint of european history. the bow was invented before there were even white people. infact its called one of the first inventions. humanity had the bow back when we were ALL in africa. as we evolved we didnt forget it.

seriously if you dont know something, dont comment on it. because it dosent help you at all.

Europe wasnt as unorganized as people were led to believe. Remember the roman texts about ancient europe was extremely biased. I suggest you do some research on the celts, and there much larger network with the germanic people.

Persia had many slaves fighting for them. If Persia wanted to take all of europe, they would not only have to fight the greeks, but also the celts, germans and slavs. You mean to tell me that army can take on an entire population of people?

Never would have happened. Not in a million years. you seem to fail to realize that not only would europe basically have some kind of unification by common enemy, you also fail to realize that the very formations the greeks had to defeat the persians would be learned rather quickly by the rest of europe.

Of course, the bow have been around for a long time. But teh crafting and use of it was quickly forgotten. Some nations had it, some didn't. If you had done a little research, you would have learnt it yourself.

The Celts were indeed.. large, but organized or disciplined? No, they weren't. They had war between themselves. Not much of a single "empire".

Persia would, as I said, eat them alive. A large army fighting many small every now and then, not a problem. If they all got organized and united, well that would be misfortunate for Persia, but the odds of that happening were low to say the least.

You are wrong sir, Europe was nothing back then.

okay then, prove to me that all people of europe did not have bows. Because as far as im concerned its pretty firmly established that all people had these. and its common knowledge.

the celts were huge, and not an empire. nor did I ever say they were.

Let me explain something to you.

The persians fell to the greeks

the greeks fell to the romans

the romans fell to the germans

the celts also have a defeat on rome as well (But rome came back and won)

the germans defeated the romans, and essentially became "romanized"

so lets take this into perspective. Lets say the persians came to take over all of europe. and as we all know they fell to the spartans, the rest of europe is taking a huge bite more than you can chew.

the persians were not as advanced as the romans, and the celts have a 1-1 record with them. Persia would be the laughing stock of the world if they ever tried taking europe. 

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[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]liberalicide i have a question what if one is 100% white but is not full french and has some other white cultures. where can he live in europe and can he live in a different euro country and adapt their culture and languge and live there like them? MeriMorganov

if someone is white, then I suggest they live in their native homeland along with people of all races doing the same. The only time I think merging of two cultures would be okay is if lets say country 1 is about to collapse and country 2 decideds its gonna take over to ensure a stabe enviroment for the people.

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[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]liberalicide i have a question what if one is 100% white but is not full french and has some other white cultures. where can he live in europe and can he live in a different euro country and adapt their culture and languge and live there like them? MeriMorganov

if someone is white, then I suggest they live in their native homeland along with people of all races doing the same. The only time I think merging of two cultures would be okay is if lets say country 1 is about to collapse and country 2 decideds its gonna take over to ensure a stabe enviroment for the people.

i would rather the polish go back to poland and fix their own country. I am part polish too. so dont even try to say i hate poles. 

 

okay then, prove to me that all people of europe did not have bows. Because as far as im concerned its pretty firmly established that all people had these. and its common knowledge.

 

the celts were huge, and not an empire. nor did I ever say they were.

 

Let me explain something to you.

 

The persians fell to the greeks

the greeks fell to the romans

the romans fell to the germans

the celts also have a defeat on rome as well (But rome came back and won)

 

the germans defeated the romans, and essentially became "romanized"

 

so lets take this into perspective. Lets say the persians came to take over all of europe. and as we all know they fell to the spartans, the rest of europe is taking a huge bite more than you can chew.

 

the persians were not as advanced as the romans, and the celts have a 1-1 record with them. Persia would be the laughing stock of the world if they ever tried taking europe.

 

We are arguing what could happen, in other words, we are arguing an impossible point. Persia would have had no problems in invading Europe. Nor would the Greeks. But keeping it under their control? I actually doubt they would be able to manage an Empire of that size. But as for the invasion itself, it would most likely be flawless unless something drastic happened (e.g Xerxes is killed). The Celts weren't powerful, you cannot argue that. They sure were warriors, but jsut like today. A soldier without training is not a soldier at all.

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okay then, prove to me that all people of europe did not have bows. Because as far as im concerned its pretty firmly established that all people had these. and its common knowledge.

 

the celts were huge, and not an empire. nor did I ever say they were.

 

Let me explain something to you.

 

The persians fell to the greeks

the greeks fell to the romans

the romans fell to the germans

the celts also have a defeat on rome as well (But rome came back and won)

 

the germans defeated the romans, and essentially became "romanized"

 

so lets take this into perspective. Lets say the persians came to take over all of europe. and as we all know they fell to the spartans, the rest of europe is taking a huge bite more than you can chew.

 

the persians were not as advanced as the romans, and the celts have a 1-1 record with them. Persia would be the laughing stock of the world if they ever tried taking europe.

 

Vfanek

We are arguing what could happen, in other words, we are arguing an impossible point. Persia would have had no problems in invading Europe. Nor would the Greeks. But keeping it under their control? I actually doubt they would be able to manage an Empire of that **** But as for the invasion itself, it would most likely be flawless unless something drastic happened (e.g Xerxes is killed). The Celts weren't powerful, you cannot argue that. They sure were warriors, but jsut like today. A soldier without training is not a soldier at all.

 

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actually the celts were powerful. and intelligent to boot.

keep in mind the celts were the first people to really kick romes ass.

also the celts made a calendar thats more advanced than the roman one, infact they say its on par with computers (im not saying its electronic, im saying its highly accurate). I suggest looking it up. Its quite amazing.

even if you doubt the celts and the germans and slavs, you have to realize if europe had one common enemy then the rest of europe would probably learn to fight liek the greeks did.

True Nationalism is just plain stupid, judje the person not the nation. Life is full of changable factors, there no such thing as a pure race, and all nations were originaly made up of a mix of migrants. As most people here are from eith the US, UK or Canada I find it hard to see why they sypathise with nationalists, as all are nations recently made up of migrants. So should the europeans have been baned from north america and stayed at home? Should the Scandanavians stayed out of the UK?hair001

Most of them have the mindset that America was built by the white race for the white race, and that is most likely true. 

Nobody cares what white nationalists think anyway, so I don't know what the big fuss is about.

Okay, might as well jump on the Eastern technology bandwagon....

People think of the pyramids and the Collosus of Rhodes as impressive, but, well, that's nothing compared to this. There's a temple in southern India, with a pillar in the center. There's a hole at the top of the pillar, if you were to slide a needle into the hole, it would go through the pillar through the center and come out the other side. There are no other cracks in the pillar that could have created this hole.

Until recently, nothing we could've done in the Western civilization could create something like this, without the aid of a laser.

True Nationalism is just plain stupid, judje the person not the nation. Life is full of changable factors, there no such thing as a pure race, and all nations were originaly made up of a mix of migrants. As most people here are from eith the US, UK or Canada I find it hard to see why they sypathise with nationalists, as all are nations recently made up of migrants. So should the europeans have been baned from north america and stayed at home? Should the Scandanavians stayed out of the UK?hair001

as i said before, the time of conquest is far over. so american are here to stay and the scandinavian bloodline the english have isnt wrong. 

[QUOTE="hair001"]True Nationalism is just plain stupid, judje the person not the nation. Life is full of changable factors, there no such thing as a pure race, and all nations were originaly made up of a mix of migrants. As most people here are from eith the US, UK or Canada I find it hard to see why they sypathise with nationalists, as all are nations recently made up of migrants. So should the europeans have been baned from north america and stayed at home? Should the Scandanavians stayed out of the UK?volgin_101

Most of them have the mindset that America was built by the white race for the white race, and that is most likely true.

Okay, might as well jump on the Eastern technology bandwagon....

People think of the pyramids and the Collosus of Rhodes as impressive, but, well, that's nothing compared to this. There's a temple in southern India, with a pillar in the center. There's a hole at the top of the pillar, if you were to slide a needle into the hole, it would go through the pillar through the center and come out the other side. There are no other cracks in the pillar that could have created this hole.

Until recently, nothing we could've done in the Western civilization could create something like this, without the aid of a laser.

Greatgone12

I haven't heard of it, it is of course a wonder. Not to mention the pyramids, the Sphinxes, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon.. 

[QUOTE="hair001"]True Nationalism is just plain stupid, judje the person not the nation. Life is full of changable factors, there no such thing as a pure race, and all nations were originaly made up of a mix of migrants. As most people here are from eith the US, UK or Canada I find it hard to see why they sypathise with nationalists, as all are nations recently made up of migrants. So should the europeans have been baned from north america and stayed at home? Should the Scandanavians stayed out of the UK?Liberalicide

as i said before, the time of conquest is far over. so american are here to stay and the scandinavian bloodline the english have isnt wrong.

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[QUOTE="hair001"]True Nationalism is just plain stupid, judje the person not the nation. Life is full of changable factors, there no such thing as a pure race, and all nations were originaly made up of a mix of migrants. As most people here are from eith the US, UK or Canada I find it hard to see why they sypathise with nationalists, as all are nations recently made up of migrants. So should the europeans have been baned from north america and stayed at home? Should the Scandanavians stayed out of the UK?hair001

as i said before, the time of conquest is far over. so american are here to stay and the scandinavian bloodline the english have isnt wrong.

yeah, because if anyone was to try and literally take over a country theres a lot of real damage that could be done. we dont fight wars with swords and shields anymore. 

[QUOTE="Greatgone12"]

Okay, might as well jump on the Eastern technology bandwagon....

People think of the pyramids and the Collosus of Rhodes as impressive, but, well, that's nothing compared to this. There's a temple in southern India, with a pillar in the center. There's a hole at the top of the pillar, if you were to slide a needle into the hole, it would go through the pillar through the center and come out the other side. There are no other cracks in the pillar that could have created this hole.

Until recently, nothing we could've done in the Western civilization could create something like this, without the aid of a laser.

Vfanek

I haven't heard of it, it is of course a wonder. Not to mention the pyramids, the Sphinxes, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon..

how did we get on this conversation anyway? I dont recall anyone saying that western civilization is the only good one. 

[QUOTE="hair001"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"]

[QUOTE="hair001"]True Nationalism is just plain stupid, judje the person not the nation. Life is full of changable factors, there no such thing as a pure race, and all nations were originaly made up of a mix of migrants. As most people here are from eith the US, UK or Canada I find it hard to see why they sypathise with nationalists, as all are nations recently made up of migrants. So should the europeans have been baned from north america and stayed at home? Should the Scandanavians stayed out of the UK?Liberalicide

as i said before, the time of conquest is far over. so american are here to stay and the scandinavian bloodline the english have isnt wrong.

yeah, because if anyone was to try and literally take over a country theres a lot of real damage that could be done. we dont fight wars with swords and shields anymore.

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"]

Okay, might as well jump on the Eastern technology bandwagon....

People think of the pyramids and the Collosus of Rhodes as impressive, but, well, that's nothing compared to this. There's a temple in southern India, with a pillar in the center. There's a hole at the top of the pillar, if you were to slide a needle into the hole, it would go through the pillar through the center and come out the other side. There are no other cracks in the pillar that could have created this hole.

Until recently, nothing we could've done in the Western civilization could create something like this, without the aid of a laser.

Liberalicide

I haven't heard of it, it is of course a wonder. Not to mention the pyramids, the Sphinxes, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon..

how did we get on this conversation anyway? I dont recall anyone saying that western civilization is the only good one. 

I belive it was me who started it with my question :?

well it would suck if my people(whites) died from this world and i am not looking forward to learning chinese in the future if immigration becomes that strong here in canada... so atleast they care MeriMorganov

Thats racist...im sorry but looking at it that way is racist. I think if you look at people you share the same racial background as "your people" you are more than likely a racist.

And then you proceed to say "at least they care". Care about what? There is nothing wrong with having racial diversity. You say it like diversity is some sort epidemic.

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"]

Okay, might as well jump on the Eastern technology bandwagon....

People think of the pyramids and the Collosus of Rhodes as impressive, but, well, that's nothing compared to this. There's a temple in southern India, with a pillar in the center. There's a hole at the top of the pillar, if you were to slide a needle into the hole, it would go through the pillar through the center and come out the other side. There are no other cracks in the pillar that could have created this hole.

Until recently, nothing we could've done in the Western civilization could create something like this, without the aid of a laser.

Liberalicide

I haven't heard of it, it is of course a wonder. Not to mention the pyramids, the Sphinxes, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon..

how did we get on this conversation anyway? I dont recall anyone saying that western civilization is the only good one.

Maybe you didn't, but I recall someone else asking about Eastern technology.

While we are at it, the charriots were quite an achievement too. They were the tanks of those days. 

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[QUOTE="monco59"]Wait, white nationalists can THINK?Liberalicide

moreso than your silly liberal type. you really dont have anything to say though, so keep flaming.

silly libs :lol:

pretty much 

I truly believe that Hitler and others like him have succeeded in that they have planted the ideas of supiriorty without reason behind such thinking into the mind of conservatives.

I hate that website, I ended up there accidentally one day after reading some nonsense somewhere about the Holocaust not happening...grrjacintos09

White nationalists are disgusting as individuals, they all just need to die.

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[QUOTE="monco59"]Wait, white nationalists can THINK?Thanatos1337

moreso than your silly liberal type. you really dont have anything to say though, so keep flaming.

silly libs :lol:

pretty much

I truly believe that Hitler and others like him have succeeded in that they have planted the ideas of supiriorty without reason behind such thinking into the mind of conservatives.

well it would suck if my people(whites) died from this world and i am not looking forward to learning chinese in the future if immigration becomes that strong here in canada... so atleast they care MeriMorganov