What is the best religion for a girlfriend to have?

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Religion is the cage which traps the true potential of the mind.foxhound_fox

Honestly? I wouldn't really care

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Religion is the cage which traps the true potential of the mind.YellowOneKinobi

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="HNNNGH"]Don't be so silly. Everything I just said is endorsed by either the Quran or multiple Hadith.HNNNGH

Muslim Arabs are semite. Your argument is nulled.

Wow, even in the broadest sense, I can firmly reply that there are Jewish Arabs, what now, do they hate themeselves too?

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Religion is the cage which traps the true potential of the mind.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Religion is the cage which traps the true potential of the mind.HNNNGH

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="HNNNGH"]How childish. I'm sure you know very well that a) antisemitism has broad use as meaning 'dislike of Jews', despite its linguistic origins and that b) that is the context in which I used it. Now piss off.HNNNGH

Wow, even in the broadest sense, I can firmly reply that there are Jewish Arabs, what now, do they hate themeselves too?

Guess it's a lost cause with you then. :|

Meh, haters gonna hate.

[QUOTE="HNNNGH"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] I don't even know how to reply to this. I'd disagree, and say it is almost the exact opposite. Absolute rationalism/objectivism is as closed-minded as blind faith without reasoning.surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Religion is the cage which traps the true potential of the mind.YellowOneKinobi

For me, atheism. I know it's not a religion, but I'm going to say it anyway.

[QUOTE="HNNNGH"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

Wow, even in the broadest sense, I can firmly reply that there are Jewish Arabs, what now, do they hate themeselves too?

Victorious_Fize

Guess it's a lost cause with you then. :|

Meh, haters gonna hate.

You need to watch this movie

In what way are rationalism and objectivism closed-minded?HNNNGH

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] I don't even know how to reply to this. I'd disagree, and say it is almost the exact opposite. Absolute rationalism/objectivism is as closed-minded as blind faith without reasoning.Darthmatt

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]One of the rare times I'm actually in complete agreement with you.

YellowOneKinobi

Thomas Paine said it best;

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.

All national institutions of churches--whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish--appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind and monopolize power and profit."

Age of Reason, 1794

[QUOTE="HNNNGH"]In what way are rationalism and objectivism closed-minded?foxhound_fox

I was this way as well. I was the equivelent of the kid sticking his fingers in his ear and going "nyah nyah nyah I cant heeeeeeeeeeeear you" because, unless it was some fact or written about in a book by some smart guy or gal, it wasnt worth it. Also, asking people to "prove it" got annoying :oops:

Not quite a Buddhist yet, though :P

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="HNNNGH"]In what way are rationalism and objectivism closed-minded?mrbojangles25

I was this way as well. I was the equivelent of the kid sticking his fingers in his ear and going "nyah nyah nyah I cant heeeeeeeeeeeear you" because, unless it was some fact or written about in a book by some smart guy or gal, it wasnt worth it. Also, asking people to "prove it" got annoying :oops:

Not quite a Buddhist yet, though :P

As a young child raised in a non-religous home, I didn't even think about it.

As a teenager and into my early to mid 20's I knew EVERYTHING and was sure there is no God and all religions were bull.

As I got a little bit older I began to realize that there is a lot more to our world than one might think or be able to see, touch, measure and quantify.

It's difficult to argue with someone that is so (apparently) ignorant of what being religious means.YellowOneKinobi

So objectivism and rationalism are closed-minded because they don't make you as happy as airy-fairy spiritualist bulls*** does. Got it.HNNNGH

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Feel free to have someone tell you how to dress, what to say, what to think all because the dogma of some ancient text tells you. Objectivism is the true path to opening the mind, because only once you strip away the subjective observation of our existence, there in lies the only true perfection.

Darthmatt

Thomas Paine said it best;

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.

All national institutions of churches--whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish--appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind and monopolize power and profit."

Age of Reason, 1794

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Take a person who has blind faith in their religion, and is closed to reason, and objectivism. They take their religious text literally, and don't have any understanding of the natural world. Now, take the opposite. Someone who rejects any non-rational thing in favour of staunch objectivism. I was once at that point, and was entirely unfulfilled with my life. My discovery of mysticism, high-level academia regarding the history of religion (which taught me about the actual beliefs of religions, not the ones most people have today) and having some personal religious experiences had me convinced that neither harsh objectivism and blind-faith is the answer. Buddhism is what I've found works for me... some things work for others. All I'm saying is, is that relying entirely on the rational has never worked for me, so I don't see how it could work for anyone else (since I gave no way of experiencing what others do).YellowOneKinobi

I was this way as well. I was the equivelent of the kid sticking his fingers in his ear and going "nyah nyah nyah I cant heeeeeeeeeeeear you" because, unless it was some fact or written about in a book by some smart guy or gal, it wasnt worth it. Also, asking people to "prove it" got annoying :oops:

Not quite a Buddhist yet, though :P

As a young child raised in a non-religous home, I didn't even think about it.

As a teenager and into my early to mid 20's I knew EVERYTHING and was sure there is no God and all religions were bull.

As I got a little bit older I began to realize that there is a lot more to our world than one might think or be able to see, touch, measure and quantify.

yep! Got done with college (the source of my angst), took a look around, realized life as an adult > life as indentured student, said "**** it*", and just relaxed and started to enjoy the ride. Ignorance is bliss, neh? :P

As long as she's open to Ancient Astronaut theory, I'm cool.

Unless that person is also an empiricist in which case they know betterHNNNGH

Believing i am god would work out pretty well i thinkmarkop2003

[QUOTE="HNNNGH"]Unless that person is also an empiricist in which case they know betterfoxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="HNNNGH"]Unless that person is also an empiricist in which case they know betterHNNNGH

this is why I like to believe in things as well as know things, because I am much happier. Also, its more entertaining :P

This has to be the oddest question I have heard today. :|00-Riddick-00

its pretty important though, and relevant. I know a guy that married a Mormon girl and the dude couldnt have his family at the wedding :( Sadly, religion does impact romantic relationships.

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]It's difficult to argue with someone that is so (apparently) ignorant of what being religious means.

YellowOneKinobi

Thomas Paine said it best;

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.

All national institutions of churches--whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish--appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind and monopolize power and profit."

Age of Reason, 1794

To the best of our understanding it's a pattern of electrochemical activity that leads to self-awareness and cognition.HNNNGH

[QUOTE="HNNNGH"]To the best of our understanding it's a pattern of electrochemical activity that leads to self-awareness and cognition.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="HNNNGH"]To the best of our understanding it's a pattern of electrochemical activity that leads to self-awareness and cognition.foxhound_fox

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Christianity 8)

Muslim. LOL HELL NO just kidding, Athiest ofcourse

l-lord

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]On the contrary, I am well informed on the notion was what religion means and I choose to walk a different path.

Thomas Paine said it best;

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.

All national institutions of churches--whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish--appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind and monopolize power and profit."

Age of Reason, 1794

Darthmatt

I work in engineering and my wife works in the medical field. We have a pretty decent understanding of how the universe works (relatively speaking of course). I don't see how our being Roman Catholic takes away from that, as we continue to learn about the sciences as we go. I view science as a way to better understand the universe that God made. The more we learn about the physical universe, the more we learn about Him.

As for people getting all upset when others mock their religion, I never really understood why. I have dealt with my fair share of mocking (particularly as a person that was baptized as an adult), but I have yet to come across a single individual who has managed to shake my faith in the slightest, so I have never really been harmed by attackers/haters.

Religion is the cage which traps the true potential of the mind.

Darthmatt

Yeah, TC, I don't think you'll be able to convert her to a religion that allows fornication so its best not to even try.

It's best here to just accept her as she is and to focus your relationship on other stuff. Who knows eventually this could lead to a marriage and then you'll get to have your "fun". Or maybe you will eventually find someone else. Either way best to accept her as she is and take it from there. What will you really lose, is some lost "fun" gonna be a big deal 10 years from now?

But in general, not regarding your specific situation, I'de say the "best religion" for a girlfriend to have is the same as that held by the boyfriend. In theory I don't oppose inter-religious dating, though I generally oppose inter-religious marriages because then that sets up the problem as to what religion the children will be raised in, but inter-religious dating does risk getting attached to someone who may not be a good idea to marry.

Wiccan, obviously.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="HNNNGH"]Homophobia, misogyny, antisemitism, support for barbarian codes of criminal law including the execution of apostates and adulterers and the whipping of fornicators, an unpleasant prediliction towards domestic abuse; the list really does go onHNNNGH

quite a lot of it is also supported by the bible...so?

[QUOTE="HNNNGH"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] That isn't the message of Islam. That is merely the corruption of religion by ignorant men. Typical of what happens in all religions.Dr_Manfattan

quite a lot of it is also supported by the bible...so?

[QUOTE="HNNNGH"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] That isn't the message of Islam. That is merely the corruption of religion by ignorant men. Typical of what happens in all religions.Dr_Manfattan

quite a lot of it is also supported by the bible...so?

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] Very nice quote about one person's opinion. I'm still more interested in your statement though. So typical for people to exclaim that religious people "just do what some old book tells them to."

YellowOneKinobi

I work in engineering and my wife works in the medical field. We have a pretty decent understanding of how the universe works (relatively speaking of course). I don't see how our being Roman Catholic takes away from that, as we continue to learn about the sciences as we go. I view science as a way to better understand the universe that God made. The more we learn about the physical universe, the more we learn about Him.

As for people getting all upset when others mock their religion, I never really understood why. I have dealt with my fair share of mocking (particularly as a person that was baptized as an adult), but I have yet to come across a single individual who has managed to shake my faith in the slightest, so I have never really been harmed by attackers/haters.

[QUOTE="Dr_Manfattan"]

[QUOTE="HNNNGH"]Don't be so silly. Everything I just said is endorsed by either the Quran or multiple Hadith.tekken220

quite a lot of it is also supported by the bible...so?

actually, i meant it in a way of showing respect to all religions...i just didn't write it down in a way that portrayed what i meant correctly.

what i mean is that you can't single out one religion for massive amounts of ridicule without also giving that ridicule to most others (unless you're a massive hypocrite).

[QUOTE="tekken220"][QUOTE="Dr_Manfattan"]

quite a lot of it is also supported by the bible...so?

Dr_Manfattan

actually, i meant it in a way of showing respect to all religions...i just didn't write it down in a way that portrayed what i meant correctly.

what i mean is that you can't single out one religion for massive amounts of ridicule without also giving that ridicule to most others (unless you're a massive hypocrite).