What is the most influential weapon ever developed?

By far. This thing has caused so much change in the last 60 years it cannot be overstated.

Verge_6

The AK killed many people yes, but was it that infulential?

Also is that per chance your own AK in that pic?

I can think of one, the Renault FT-17 tank. Every tank built to this day still follows this design (with a rotating turret on top and engine in the back.)GeForce2187

Simply not true.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

By far. This thing has caused so much change in the last 60 years it cannot be overstated.

_Matt_

The AK killed many people yes, but was it that infulential?

Also is that per chance your own AK in that pic?

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

By far. This thing has caused so much change in the last 60 years it cannot be overstated.

Verge_6

The AK killed many people yes, but was it that infulential?

Also is that per chance your own AK in that pic?

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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

The AK killed many people yes, but was it that infulential?

Also is that per chance your own AK in that pic?

grape_of_wrath

i agree the AK -47 changed the way foriegn countries fought.

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"] Killing is quite influential. To say nothing of the countless wills it has enforced and influence it has had on weaponry as a whole. And no, I could only dream of owning a fully-automatic capable AK.

Verge_6

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[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"] I would argue that if it hadn't been the AK, it would have been another, possibly less accomplished, assault rifle.

grape_of_wrath

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"] But that wasn't the case, so it's rather null and void. I'm not saying the AK platform was inherently destined to make such shockwaves around the world, but as luck would have it, it did.

Verge_6

Another weapon would have taken its place, or a new one would have been developed to fill the niche of the ak-47.

Its just a gun model.

Looking at other weapon innovations, it is hardly as influential

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"] Look at it from this perpective- I believe that if the Ak hadn't been invented- the world wouldn't have been much different.

redwolf22

Another weapon would have taken its place, or a new one would have been developed to fill the niche of the ak-47.

Its just a gun model.

Looking at other weapon innovations, it is hardly as influential

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] But that wasn't the case, so it's rather null and void. I'm not saying the AK platform was inherently destined to make such shockwaves around the world, but as luck would have it, it did.

Verge_6

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"] And I believe dozens of nations wouldn't have been able to enact their policies or wills as they actually did. C'est la vie. Verge_6

Another weapon would have taken its place, or a new one would have been developed to fill the niche of the ak-47.

Its just a gun model.

Looking at other weapon innovations, it is hardly as influential

Another weapon would have taken its place, or a new one would have been developed to fill the niche of the ak-47.

Its just a gun model.

Looking at other weapon innovations, it is hardly as influential

redwolf22

Niche of the assault rifle? Are you implying that the assault rifle isn't the main battle implement of the modern age?

Tanks, planes, ships, hell even satellites computers can't fight a guerrilla army using AK-47s effectively. Vietnam - the current war in the Middle East has shown us time and time again a conventional army cannot fight the guerrillas using such a simple weapon.

This isn't a niche, it's the real deal.

Other things have been important of course, but they all led up to the AK-47.

Just like how the Atari and pong really pushed gaming to a larger audience, nobody considers it the most important game ever made.

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Another weapon would have taken its place, or a new one would have been developed to fill the niche of the ak-47.

Its just a gun model.

Looking at other weapon innovations, it is hardly as influential

Wasdie

Niche of the assault rifle? Are you implying that the assault rifle isn't the main battle implement of the modern age?

Tanks, planes, ships, hell even satellites computers can't fight a guerrilla army using AK-47s effectively. Vietnam - the current war in the Middle East has shown us time and time again a conventional army cannot fight the guerillas using such a simple weapon.

This isn't a niche, it's the real deal.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="redwolf22"]

Another weapon would have taken its place, or a new one would have been developed to fill the niche of the ak-47.

Its just a gun model.

Looking at other weapon innovations, it is hardly as influential

redwolf22

Niche of the assault rifle? Are you implying that the assault rifle isn't the main battle implement of the modern age?

Tanks, planes, ships, hell even satellites computers can't fight a guerrilla army using AK-47s effectively. Vietnam - the current war in the Middle East has shown us time and time again a conventional army cannot fight the guerillas using such a simple weapon.

This isn't a niche, it's the real deal.

Then you don't understand the battlefield or how weapons can influence it.

It's never been the biggest, most badass, hard to produce weapon that influences it, it's always been the cheap and easy to maintain that win.

[QUOTE="redwolf22"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Niche of the assault rifle? Are you implying that the assault rifle isn't the main battle implement of the modern age?

Tanks, planes, ships, hell even satellites computers can't fight a guerrilla army using AK-47s effectively. Vietnam - the current war in the Middle East has shown us time and time again a conventional army cannot fight the guerillas using such a simple weapon.

This isn't a niche, it's the real deal.

Wasdie

Then you don't understand the modern battlefield or how weapons can influence it.

I don't get why people say the AK47. It's one of many ARs, and could have easily been replaced by others.

If you want an influential AR then it would be the father of ARs

And the development of ARs is nothing compared to the development of:muskets, rifling, cartridges, nukes, and so on.

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[QUOTE="redwolf22"] The ak-47 is a cheap, mass producible, powerful and reliable weapon. It has its niche in the arms market.redwolf22

Then you don't understand the modern battlefield or how weapons can influence it.

I don't get why people say the AK47. It's one of many ARs, and could have easily been replaced by others. If you want an influential AR then it would be the father of ARsdercoo

The basic club. It allowed primitive man to live long enough to eventually develop into something more.

Propoganda.

It can be deployed anywhere, people affected by it either don't know or are in denial, and a government or aristocracy can use it on their fellow countrymen to produce a desired result as long as they can control the information the public receives.

[QUOTE="dercoo"]I don't get why people say the AK47. It's one of many ARs, and could have easily been replaced by others. If you want an influential AR then it would be the father of ARsVerge_6

Pick one from the left side

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="dercoo"]I don't get why people say the AK47. It's one of many ARs, and could have easily been replaced by others. If you want an influential AR then it would be the father of ARsdercoo

Pick one from the left side

The basic club. It allowed primitive man to live long enough to eventually develop into something more.

SUD123456

I like the reasoning behind picking ancient weapons over modern ones.

It's thought that at one stage humanity was reduced to somewhere between just 1000 and 10,000 breeding pairs!

If we're all descended from so few people, then it follows that the outcome of even the smallest skirmishes during that period (the Pleistocene) could have altered the course of history very dramatically.

Entire races of people may owe their existences to the advantages that a few clubs or sharpened flints gave to their distant ancestors! :shock:

Man.Dylan_11

Religion.dangamit