What is the point of racial Identity?

I call people what i see, If i see an super dark skin person like akon i call him black or dark brown. If he is brown like medium shade brown i call him Brown American, If he is Light skin i call him Yellow American, If he is white I call him White American Or just white :) Thats how it should be ! AussieePet

But you're Australian. You guys are the most racist people in the world! :P

Easy categorisation and identification (not by that characteristic alone obviously).

I call people what i see, If i see an super dark skin person like akon i call him black or dark brown. If he is brown like medium shade brown i call him Brown American, If he is Light skin i call him Yellow American, If he is white I call him White American Or just white :) Thats how it should be ! AussieePet

But you're Australian. You guys are the most racist people in the world! :POctober_Tide

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Calling a Japanese person *** seems pretty racist to me...

Tikeio

The term itself is not exactly "racist", since it is just a shortened form of the word Japanese. However, the term was used in a derogatory way during WW2, and it is not socially acceptable in today's society.

Well that's like saying the term negro isn't exactly racist because it's just Spanish for black.

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Calling a Japanese person *** seems pretty racist to me...

Ilovegames1992

The term itself is not exactly "racist", since it is just a shortened form of the word Japanese. However, the term was used in a derogatory way during WW2, and it is not socially acceptable in today's society.

Well that's like saying the term negro isn't exactly racist because it's just Spanish for black.

Just take the n word for instance. From what I have heard it's ok to say among black people (maybe not all of course) but it's usually offensive if a white person says it to a black person. In this case although the intention is only assumed, at least it shows that the groups of people that might get offended do realise that there is differentiation of intent behind words.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

The term itself is not exactly "racist", since it is just a shortened form of the word Japanese. However, the term was used in a derogatory way during WW2, and it is not socially acceptable in today's society.

Teenaged

Well that's like saying the term negro isn't exactly racist because it's just Spanish for black.

Just take the n word for instance. From what I have heard it's ok to say among black people (maybe not all of course) but it's usually offensive if a white person says it to a black person. In this case although the intention is only assumed, at least it shows that the groups of people that might get offended do realise that there is differentiation of intent behind words.

I get annoyed and offended if a black person says the n word. Just one of the things i can't abide.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Well that's like saying the term negro isn't exactly racist because it's just Spanish for black.

Ilovegames1992

Just take the n word for instance. From what I have heard it's ok to say among black people (maybe not all of course) but it's usually offensive if a white person says it to a black person. In this case although the intention is only assumed, at least it shows that the groups of people that might get offended do realise that there is differentiation of intent behind words.

I get annoyed and offended if a black person says the n word. Just one of the things i can't abide.

Of course this doesnt conclude that meaning is subjective and that everyone can just go "oh I was just joking relax" after swearing at someone.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]It depends on the intention I'd say.

Just take the n word for instance. From what I have heard it's ok to say among black people (maybe not all of course) but it's usually offensive if a white person says it to a black person. In this case although the intention is only assumed, at least it shows that the groups of people that might get offended do realise that there is differentiation of intent behind words.

Teenaged

I get annoyed and offended if a black person says the n word. Just one of the things i can't abide.

Of course this doesnt conclude that meaning is subjective and that everyone can just go "oh I was just joking relax" after swearing at someone.

I guess so. However, i would assume pretty much everyone knows the n word is offensive, whether they car or not.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I get annoyed and offended if a black person says the n word. Just one of the things i can't abide.

Ilovegames1992

Of course this doesnt conclude that meaning is subjective and that everyone can just go "oh I was just joking relax" after swearing at someone.

I guess so. However, i would assume pretty much everyone knows the n word is offensive, whether they car or not.

A good example is the greek word malaka which is both an insult and a greeting between good friends (mostly young people).

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Yeah for some people words do have an innate offensiveness if you like, however that is just a personal thing. You cant say "word x is offensive no matter what", you can say "I find word x very offensive no matter what".

Of course this doesnt conclude that meaning is subjective and that everyone can just go "oh I was just joking relax" after swearing at someone.

Teenaged

I guess so. However, i would assume pretty much everyone knows the n word is offensive, whether they car or not.

A good example is the greek word malaka which is both an insult and a greeting between good friends (mostly young people).

I know exactly what you mean. Big case happened in sports a few weeks back. Spanish speaker called a black Frenchman a negrito, which in his tongue isn't a racist term, but he thought it was. Big hearing took place. Very sensitive subject.

@TC, I don't understand what you're asking.

Racial Identity is usually based off of your race and knowing it's history. I will admit that racial identity is a construct meant to uplift your race, usually Black/African Statesmen (African American), but also segregates people based on race.

The use of the idea has both positives and negatives, (Pride and Segregation).

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Bucked20"] Oh my God its not racist,where are you from ?Bucked20

Just stop you don't understand

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Calling a Japanese person *** seems pretty racist to me...

Ilovegames1992

The term itself is not exactly "racist", since it is just a shortened form of the word Japanese. However, the term was used in a derogatory way during WW2, and it is not socially acceptable in today's society.

Well that's like saying the term negro isn't exactly racist because it's just Spanish for black.

It isn't racist. :|

That term was socially acceptable a long time ago, but it is not today. Just like the term "colored people" isn't socially acceptable now, but it was in the late 1800's through the early 1900's.

Damn, son. Who was your History teacher? :P

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

The term itself is not exactly "racist", since it is just a shortened form of the word Japanese. However, the term was used in a derogatory way during WW2, and it is not socially acceptable in today's society.

Tikeio

Well that's like saying the term negro isn't exactly racist because it's just Spanish for black.

It isn't racist. :|

That term was socially acceptable a long time ago, but it is not today. Just like the term "colored people" isn't socially acceptable now, but it was in the late 1800's through the early 1900's.

Damn, son. Who was your History teacher? :P

I have a good knowledge of history. You wouldn't consider negro a racist term now? I definitely wouldn't use it to describe a black person. Same with ***. Just because it was acceptable 100 years ago, doesn't mean its not racist. Hell, lynching was popular 100 years ago, its still quite racist.

I think this thread could use a proper definition since many people are misusing the term.

Well alot of it is man made, but your race/ethnicity are important in terms culture and heritage. It also helps to understand some diseases that each ethnic group are more prone to than others. Like I for instance ientitify as ethnically Jewish (yes it is an ethnicity), it's just mostly cultural reasons.

But in terms of society I believe in making a color blind society that doesn't see races or ethnic groups, only people. I don't think they should ask you for your race/ethnicty on job or college applications. I don't think that should even be an issue.

Sometimes I think AussieePet is like the greatest troll ever. th3warr1or

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Well that's like saying the term negro isn't exactly racist because it's just Spanish for black.

Ilovegames1992

It isn't racist. :|

That term was socially acceptable a long time ago, but it is not today. Just like the term "colored people" isn't socially acceptable now, but it was in the late 1800's through the early 1900's.

Damn, son. Who was your History teacher? :P

I have a good knowledge of history. You wouldn't consider negro a racist term now? I definitely wouldn't use it to describe a black person. Same with ***.

Read that part again.

If someone considered using that word today, they would clearly mean it in a derogatory way. But back then, it could go either way. Because even some Black Americans referred to themselves as "Negroes", hence the UNCF (United Negro College Fund).

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

It isn't racist. :|

That term was socially acceptable a long time ago, but it is not today. Just like the term "colored people" isn't socially acceptable now, but it was in the late 1800's through the early 1900's.

Damn, son. Who was your History teacher? :P

Tikeio

I have a good knowledge of history. You wouldn't consider negro a racist term now? I definitely wouldn't use it to describe a black person. Same with ***.

Read that part again.

If someone considered using that word today, they would clearly mean it in a derogatory way. But back then, it could go either way. Because even some Black Americans referred to themselves as "Negroes", hence the UNCF (United Negro College Fund).

Would you risk using the term negro in public? And if you did do you think everything would be peachy?

I really don't think so.

some races have more succeptability to certain diseases or genetic disorders, some races have more succeptability to be ignorant, some races smell funny

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I have a good knowledge of history. You wouldn't consider negro a racist term now? I definitely wouldn't use it to describe a black person. Same with ***.

Ilovegames1992

Read that part again.

If someone considered using that word today, they would clearly mean it in a derogatory way. But back then, it could go either way. Because even some Black Americans referred to themselves as "Negroes", hence the UNCF (United Negro College Fund).

Would you risk using the term negro in public? And if you did do you think everything would be peachy?

I really don't think so.

You're a little too dense. My point was that it is NOT "okay" to use that term today to refer to anyone of African descent.

So why in the hell are you asking me if I'd use the word in public? That's irrelevant, and my answer to that question would be pretty obvious.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Read that part again.

If someone considered using that word today, they would clearly mean it in a derogatory way. But back then, it could go either way. Because even some Black Americans referred to themselves as "Negroes", hence the UNCF (United Negro College Fund).

Tikeio

Would you risk using the term negro in public? And if you did do you think everything would be peachy?

I really don't think so.

You're a little too dense. My point was that it is NOT "okay" to use that term today to refer to anyone of African descent.

So why in the hell are you asking me if I'd use the word in public? That's irrelevant, and my answer to that question would be pretty obvious.

That is what i was saying you cretin.

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Would you risk using the term negro in public? And if you did do you think everything would be peachy?

I really don't think so.

Ilovegames1992

You're a little too dense. My point was that it is NOT "okay" to use that term today to refer to anyone of African descent.

So why in the hell are you asking me if I'd use the word in public? That's irrelevant, and my answer to that question would be pretty obvious.

That is what i was saying you cretin.

Aww.. petty insults from the idiot with terrible grammar? :lol:

You're trying to say something that was already said. Asking something that's completely irrelevant isn't "saying" anything, you moron. If I said a few posts back that it's not acceptable today, what would make you think that I would go around saying the word?

Your stupidity hold no bounds, it would seem. It's actually pretty sad, given the fact that I even outlined everything for your dumb ass.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

You're a little too dense. My point was that it is NOT "okay" to use that term today to refer to anyone of African descent.

So why in the hell are you asking me if I'd use the word in public? That's irrelevant, and my answer to that question would be pretty obvious.

Tikeio

That is what i was saying you cretin.

Aww.. petty insults from the idiot with terrible grammar? :lol:

You're trying to say something that was already said. Asking something that's completely irrelevant isn't "saying" anything, you moron. If I said a few posts back that it's not acceptable today, what would make you think that I would go around saying the word?

Your stupidity hold no bounds, it would seem. It's actually pretty sad, given the fact that I even outlined everything for your dumb ass.

Am i in the Twilight Zone where absolutely nothing makes sense and you're thinking of something that didn't actually happen...?

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I have a good knowledge of history. You wouldn't consider negro a racist term now? I definitely wouldn't use it to describe a black person. Same with ***.

Ilovegames1992

Read that part again.

If someone considered using that word today, they would clearly mean it in a derogatory way. But back then, it could go either way. Because even some Black Americans referred to themselves as "Negroes", hence the UNCF (United Negro College Fund).

Would you risk using the term negro in public? And if you did do you think everything would be peachy?

I really don't think so.

i find it interesting and weird that on some applications there's also the choice of "Other" like they couldn't list of some of the other important races in there as well

CKYguy25

I think that's when you write in "Draconian/Repitilian"

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Read that part again.

If someone considered using that word today, they would clearly mean it in a derogatory way. But back then, it could go either way. Because even some Black Americans referred to themselves as "Negroes", hence the UNCF (United Negro College Fund).

toast_burner

Would you risk using the term negro in public? And if you did do you think everything would be peachy?

I really don't think so.

Well that could be said of every word really.

Am i in the Twilight Zone where absolutely nothing makes sense and you're thinking of something that didn't actually happen...?

Ilovegames1992

No. But it would appear that you either have short-term memory, or you just lack basic comprehension.

Outlined = give a summary of (something), hence the giant bold letters as well.

If you actually thought of asking me this:

Would you risk using the term negro in public? And if you did do you think everything would be peachy?

Ilovegames1992

After reading this:

That term was socially acceptable a long time ago, but it is not today. Just like the term "colored people" isn't socially acceptable now, but it was in the late 1800's through the early 1900's.

Tikeio

Then something must not have clicked in your brain.

As for the insults, you're the one who tried to make something out of nothing by calling me a "cretin". I talk to people the same way they talk to me. If you can discuss things logically without using middle school-esque insults, I can do the same.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

No. But it would appear that you either have short-term memory, or you just lack basic comprehension.

Outlined = give a summary of (something), hence the giant bold letters as well.

If you actually thought of asking me this:

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Would you risk using the term negro in public? And if you did do you think everything would be peachy?

Tikeio

After reading this:

That term was socially acceptable a long time ago, but it is not today. Just like the term "colored people" isn't socially acceptable now, but it was in the late 1800's through the early 1900's.

Tikeio

Then something must not have clicked in your brain.

As for the insults, you're the one who tried to make something out of nothing by calling me a "cretin". I talk to people the same way they talk to me. If you can discuss things logically without using middle school-esque insults, I can do the same.

Read before that. I said pretty much what you repeated. I think you either have a basic short term memory or lack basic comprehension etc etc.

Now leave me be.

Read before that. I said pretty much what you repeated. I think you either have a basic short term memory or lack basic comprehension etc etc.

Now leave me be.

Ilovegames1992

Okay, it is now clear that you're retarded. :|

This is the entire conversation involving that word BEFORE you asked me if I'd use it:

You didn't say s**t before asking me if I'd say the word in public.

You have to be THE dumbest person on GS. :lol:

Thanks for the laughs. Good day. :)

in school 20+ years ago calling people of african decent "black" was considered bad. the administartors would tell you you had to say negro. now what do they say?

it won't matter 100 or so years from now. we'll all be mexican with a lil black and even less white in our blood.

My word.

in school 20+ years ago calling people of african decent "black" was considered bad. the administartors would tell you you had to say negro. now what do they say?

it won't matter 100 or so years from now. we'll all be mexican with a lil black and even less white in our blood.

elessarGObonzo

I mean yeah, when I'm filling something out, I'll check black because that is what I am.

But some people tell me that it's about picking the race you relate with.

Does this mean which race my personality/ lifestyle best represents?

Because I don't relate with any certain race. I relate with people who have similar ideals as me or that I like, regardless of race.

So what does this mean?

SaintWalrus

[QUOTE="AussieePet"]Yellow AmericanJoshywaa

Uhh

*facepalm*