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[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"] Take a look at this:That plain looks very two-dimensional. As a matter of fact, it is two-dimensional. Don't you think graphicing political ideologies on a two-dimensional plain is simplifying the debate? Hitler was closer to Stalin than most would imagine. :| Right to left is economic freedom, bottom to top is social freedom.Those are the only two political issues?Communism can be socialist as well as authoritarian, just like neo liberalism.Thanks-
Can you think of any others?
:| Right to left is economic freedom, bottom to top is social freedom.Those are the only two political issues? You are simplifying the debate in order to make a point.[QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"]That plain looks very two-dimensional. As a matter of fact, it is two-dimensional. Don't you think graphicing political ideologies on a two-dimensional plain is simplifying the debate? Hitler was closer to Stalin than most would imagine.Marx_Brother
Can you think of any others?
I removed the ugly picture so it wouldn't crop anymore of my text.Yes, of course there are.
It surprises me that so many people who have definitive political opinions, are actually uneducated in international relations and political science. They understand the politics of their region, maybe their country, and that's all. I am giving you an opportunity to further educate yourself in political science by reposting a post I made on another forum explaining the basis of political science. It also explains how scientists like myself are different from people who simply have an opinion.
(it was too large, I'm making an external post. I will link later.)
[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]:| Right to left is economic freedom, bottom to top is social freedom.Those are the only two political issues? You are simplifying the debate in order to make a point.[QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"]That plain looks very two-dimensional. As a matter of fact, it is two-dimensional. Don't you think graphicing political ideologies on a two-dimensional plain is simplifying the debate? Hitler was closer to Stalin than most would imagine.Thanks-
Can you think of any others?
I removed the ugly picture so it wouldn't crop anymore of my text.Yes, of course there are.
It surprises me that so many people who have definitive political opinions, are actually uneducated in international relations and political science. They understand the politics of their region, maybe their country, and that's all. I am giving you an opportunity to further educate yourself in political science by reposting a post I made on another forum explaining the basis of political science. It also explains how scientists like myself are different from people who simply have an opinion.
(it was too large, I'm making an external post. I will link later.)
You haven't really named any....It is a White Nationalist forum. Has anyone from here been or posted there before?i don´t like fascists but i think that they should not be ban the only way to fight those ideas is giving more formation and information to common ppl
They have been in the news lately. Should forums like that be banned or censored?
ericgold3k
[QUOTE="im_very_kind"][QUOTE="VERTIGO47"]Everyone (sadly) is entitled to free speech. As far as that RACIST website is concerned. Their idealogy and beliefs are contradictory, hypocritical and downright extremely laughable LUNACY. Those people are trapped within thier stupidity and ignorance. They're a living joke, living in LaLa Land :lol:prove it.
VERTIGO47
[QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]:| Right to left is economic freedom, bottom to top is social freedom.Those are the only two political issues? You are simplifying the debate in order to make a point.[QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"]That plain looks very two-dimensional. As a matter of fact, it is two-dimensional. Don't you think graphicing political ideologies on a two-dimensional plain is simplifying the debate? Hitler was closer to Stalin than most would imagine.-Karayan-
Can you think of any others?
I removed the ugly picture so it wouldn't crop anymore of my text.Yes, of course there are.
It surprises me that so many people who have definitive political opinions, are actually uneducated in international relations and political science. They understand the politics of their region, maybe their country, and that's all. I am giving you an opportunity to further educate yourself in political science by reposting a post I made on another forum explaining the basis of political science. It also explains how scientists like myself are different from people who simply have an opinion.
(it was too large, I'm making an external post. I will link later.)
You haven't really named any....You apparently don't know what later means. I created the topic, after reformatting a post I made on another forum. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25376392By the way, I realize no one will read this. That is part of the reason why I am a scientist and you are probably not ;)
[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]:| Right to left is economic freedom, bottom to top is social freedom.Those are the only two political issues? You are simplifying the debate in order to make a point.[QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"]That plain looks very two-dimensional. As a matter of fact, it is two-dimensional. Don't you think graphicing political ideologies on a two-dimensional plain is simplifying the debate? Hitler was closer to Stalin than most would imagine.Thanks-
Can you think of any others?
I removed the ugly picture so it wouldn't crop anymore of my text.Yes, of course there are.
It surprises me that so many people who have definitive political opinions, are actually uneducated in international relations and political science. They understand the politics of their region, maybe their country, and that's all. I am giving you an opportunity to further educate yourself in political science by reposting a post I made on another forum explaining the basis of political science. It also explains how scientists like myself are different from people who simply have an opinion.
(it was too large, I'm making an external post. I will link later.)
You haven't really named any....You apparently don't know what later means. I created the topic, after reformatting a post I made on another forum. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25376392By the way, I realize no one will read this. That is part of the reason why I am a scientist and you are probably not ;)
All I see that doesn't fit into the chart there is war, though it probably is authoritarian in some way ... Either way, I merely posted it to show that communism =/= liberalism[QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]:| Right to left is economic freedom, bottom to top is social freedom.Those are the only two political issues? You are simplifying the debate in order to make a point.[QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"]That plain looks very two-dimensional. As a matter of fact, it is two-dimensional. Don't you think graphicing political ideologies on a two-dimensional plain is simplifying the debate? Hitler was closer to Stalin than most would imagine.-Karayan-
Can you think of any others?
I removed the ugly picture so it wouldn't crop anymore of my text.Yes, of course there are.
It surprises me that so many people who have definitive political opinions, are actually uneducated in international relations and political science. They understand the politics of their region, maybe their country, and that's all. I am giving you an opportunity to further educate yourself in political science by reposting a post I made on another forum explaining the basis of political science. It also explains how scientists like myself are different from people who simply have an opinion.
(it was too large, I'm making an external post. I will link later.)
You haven't really named any....You apparently don't know what later means. I created the topic, after reformatting a post I made on another forum. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25376392By the way, I realize no one will read this. That is part of the reason why I am a scientist and you are probably not ;)
All I see that doesn't fit into the chart there is war, though it probably is authoritarian in some way ... Either way, I merely posted it to show that communism =/= liberalismI would disagree with that.[QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"]I would disagree with that.-Karayan-With what?I think the roots of liberalism lie in communism. Communism is an economic theory that advocates economic regulation....The economic theories of communism devour society as a whole, making it a security, social, and economic issue which is, quite frankly, an absolute mess.
[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"]I would disagree with that.Thanks-With what?I think the roots of liberalism lie in communism. Communism is an economic theory that advocates economic regulation....The economic theories of communism devour society as a whole, making it a security, social, and economic issue which is, quite frankly, an absolute mess. Uhuh. If factories become government regulated we're all gonna die!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone (sadly) is entitled to free speech. As far as that RACIST website is concerned. Their idealogy and beliefs are contradictory, hypocritical and downright extremely laughable LUNACY. Those people are trapped within thier stupidity and ignorance. They're a living joke, living in LaLa Land :lol:why is it sad that everyone is entitled to speek freely? that is an ignorant statement. no matter how stupid these groups are they shouldnt be silenced.
VERTIGO47
[QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"]I would disagree with that.ROLFCHANKWith what?I think the roots of liberalism lie in communism. you couldnt be more wrong there i think hes absolutely right, and if you dont know what hes talking about i suggest more research on your behalf.
It is a White Nationalist forum. Has anyone from here been or posted there before?
They have been in the news lately. Should forums like that be banned or censored?
ericgold3k
[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"]I would disagree with that.Thanks-With what?I think the roots of liberalism lie in communism.
I've visited their forums before and while I don't agree with their views, they shouldn't be "banned". This isn't a communist conutry, we have freedom of speech.cjswartz
[QUOTE="FinneyCalc"][QUOTE="cjswartz"]I've visited their forums before and while I don't agree with their views, they shouldn't be "banned". This isn't a communist conutry, we have freedom of speech.im_very_kindAnd the list of people not knowing what communism exactly is grows.... you really dont get freedoms in a communist society though.
Freedom of speech is important precisely because it protects unpopular opinions. The First Amendment should not be suffixed with "this law is for everyone but nazis." It doesn't work that way, and it shouldn't.metallimoose
Government tolerance of extremist ideologies is an excellence gauge of the actual freedom a given society harbors. As long as the likes of white nationalists are allowed to speak freely, we can be assured of the security of the First Amendment.
Who the hell is talking about freedom of speech? I (at least) am talking about nazis who carry out their political goals in reality.doubutsuteki
Define "extremist ideologies".
[QUOTE="ROLFCHANK"][QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"]I would disagree with that.im_very_kindWith what?I think the roots of liberalism lie in communism. you couldnt be more wrong there i think hes absolutely right, and if you dont know what hes talking about i suggest more research on your behalf. you have no idea what you are talking about. i am talking about classical liberalism, which is essentially the basis of the united states. you are probably talking about modern leftism.
the children card is the classic argument made when the government wants to ban something that doesnt need banning, eg drug use. stupid argument. ROLFCHANKI don't want drugs to be banned, it should be legalized IMO, to be regulated and to avoid addicts contracting diseases through shared needles. I'm just saying that they're hurting children emotionally, that's all.
[QUOTE="ROLFCHANK"]the children card is the classic argument made when the government wants to ban something that doesnt need banning, eg drug use. stupid argument. -Karayan-I don't want drugs to be banned, it should be legalized IMO, to be regulated and to avoid addicts contracting diseases through shared needles. I'm just saying that they're hurting children emotionally, that's all. so do porno movies and magazines, violence on tv, sex on tv, images of simulated drug use, fast food, unpatriotic political speech, extremist libertarian literature, extremist communist literature, fill in the blank and put just about anything that isnt accepted in the mainstream here and you can make just as valid an argument that that material is as hurtful "emotionally" to children as white supremacist views. awful line of argument that leads to a slippery slope whereby the government would be able to pick and choose what is and is not heard, as well as what we put into our bodies and myriad other things. i wish everybody could see this.
[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Thanks-"]I would disagree with that.Thanks-With what?I think the roots of liberalism lie in communism.
Communism and Liberalism are completely the opposite.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/school-demographics-363213p2.html?s=eb27b8cf13a1cd52f876c6783108d398&Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
School is a good place for White people to really know what negros are like. I was fortunet in not having to put up with negros until I got to Junior High School at which time I discovered that our White predessors had let the future White race down. They really caused problems for White people every time they had a chance. Negros have turned schools all across America into something resembling prisons, rather than institutions of learning. The Animal behavior of these wooley headed, thick lipped baboons has decreased the quality of living for good White people to the point that it is amazing that even a brainwashed White person would not know that all negros should be sent back to Africa
Taken from this trash of a website... These people are racist fools. They all need a good ass whopping.
Define "extremist ideologies".metallimoose
http://www.m-w.com/
extremism: the advocacy of extreme measures or views
ideology: the integrated assertions, theories, and aims that constitute a siciopolitical program
[QUOTE="familyguy77"]Taken from this trash of a website... These people are racist fools. They all need a good ass whopping.-Karayan-They need to have their skulls caved in. Damn racist hatemongers, I hope they get ***es-*****ed in prison by black guys until they bleed.
[QUOTE="familyguy77"]Taken from this trash of a website... These people are racist fools. They all need a good ass whopping.-Karayan-They need to have their skulls caved in. Damn racist hatemongers, I hope they get ***es-*****ed in prison by black guys until they bleed. Who's to say that the black people you speak of arent racist either?
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