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Many reasons which stem primarily from peoples' affiliations to religions and secondarily because I don't agree with any religious viewpoints.
I was confirmed Catholic at 16 and a few years later I just stopped caring about religion. I just don't agree with it.
[QUOTE="SgtSchfiftyFive"]Agnostic :P Yep :)I'm not really Athiest, but I'm not really religious either. I guess because I stopped going to church, and then years later I questioned if God was real because I didn't see much proof.
Nibroc420
No evidence, as far as I'm concerned the Bible may as well be a super long childrens book with big fancy words.
Nothing. Just like everything in this world. Religion has fllaws. Real or not I've seen the good religion can bring. I have no problem with living in a lie. It brings people peace.MgamerBD
Religion has caused countless wars, deaths and disputes; then there's the dark ages that literary stopped advancement of the human race for 400 years.
But don't get me wrong though, it's not the religion themselves that causes problems, it's people's unability to "live and let live" Just saying it has done more harm than good overall.
I refuse to believe in an omicient god because that would make me powerless to determine my future and if I didn't believe that I was in control I would have no reason to continue living.
[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Nothing. Just like everything in this world. Religion has fllaws. Real or not I've seen the good religion can bring. I have no problem with living in a lie. It brings people peace.Blue-Sky
Religion has caused countless wars, deaths and disputes; then there's the dark ages that literary stopped advancement of the human race for 400 years.
But don't get me wrong though, it's not the religion themselves that causes problems, it's people's unability to "live and let live" Just saying it has done more harm than good overall.
Why do people use this argument? It has been proen many times that many of the wars fought was not because of religion. But other gains such as land, politics, amd resources. Also when the hell did religion put us in the dark ages? Examples? Proof?. I'm sure even though we had religion many scientific discoveries was still being made...
[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]
[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Nothing. Just like everything in this world. Religion has fllaws. Real or not I've seen the good religion can bring. I have no problem with living in a lie. It brings people peace.MgamerBD
Religion has caused countless wars, deaths and disputes; then there's the dark ages that literary stopped advancement of the human race for 400 years.
But don't get me wrong though, it's not the religion themselves that causes problems, it's people's unability to "live and let live" Just saying it has done more harm than good overall.
Why do people use this argument? It has been proen many times that many of the wars fought was not because of religion. But other gains such as land, politics, amd resources. Also when the hell did religion put us in the dark ages? Examples? Proof?. I'm sure even though we had religion many scientific discoveries was still being made...
Fighting over Jerusalem may technically be "for land" but we all know it's for religious reasons.[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]
[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Nothing. Just like everything in this world. Religion has fllaws. Real or not I've seen the good religion can bring. I have no problem with living in a lie. It brings people peace.MgamerBD
Religion has caused countless wars, deaths and disputes; then there's the dark ages that literary stopped advancement of the human race for 400 years.
But don't get me wrong though, it's not the religion themselves that causes problems, it's people's unability to "live and let live" Just saying it has done more harm than good overall.
Why do people use this argument? It has been proen many times that many of the wars fought was not because of religion. But other gains such as land, politics, amd resources. Also when the hell did religion put us in the dark ages? Examples? Proof?. I'm sure even though we had religion many scientific discoveries was still being made...
Are you being serious?[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]
[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Nothing. Just like everything in this world. Religion has fllaws. Real or not I've seen the good religion can bring. I have no problem with living in a lie. It brings people peace.MgamerBD
Religion has caused countless wars, deaths and disputes; then there's the dark ages that literary stopped advancement of the human race for 400 years.
But don't get me wrong though, it's not the religion themselves that causes problems, it's people's unability to "live and let live" Just saying it has done more harm than good overall.
Why do people use this argument? It has been proen many times that many of the wars fought was not because of religion. But other gains such as land, politics, amd resources. Also when the hell did religion put us in the dark ages? Examples? Proof?. I'm sure even though we had religion many scientific discoveries was still being made...
it may not be the defining reason in some cases, but they always fall back on religion for support of the cause. If there wasnt any religion they wouldnt have anything to fall back on[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]
[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]
Religion has caused countless wars, deaths and disputes; then there's the dark ages that literary stopped advancement of the human race for 400 years.
But don't get me wrong though, it's not the religion themselves that causes problems, it's people's unability to "live and let live" Just saying it has done more harm than good overall.
Why do people use this argument? It has been proen many times that many of the wars fought was not because of religion. But other gains such as land, politics, amd resources. Also when the hell did religion put us in the dark ages? Examples? Proof?. I'm sure even though we had religion many scientific discoveries was still being made...
Are you being serious? *looks around* Yes...I did ask for proof...[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]
Religion has caused countless wars, deaths and disputes; then there's the dark ages that literary stopped advancement of the human race for 400 years.
But don't get me wrong though, it's not the religion themselves that causes problems, it's people's unability to "live and let live" Just saying it has done more harm than good overall.
Why do people use this argument? It has been proen many times that many of the wars fought was not because of religion. But other gains such as land, politics, amd resources. Also when the hell did religion put us in the dark ages? Examples? Proof?. I'm sure even though we had religion many scientific discoveries was still being made...
Fighting over Jerusalem may technically be "for land" but we all know it's for religious reasons. No...I'm pretty sure its for land...[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]
Religion has caused countless wars, deaths and disputes; then there's the dark ages that literary stopped advancement of the human race for 400 years.
But don't get me wrong though, it's not the religion themselves that causes problems, it's people's unability to "live and let live" Just saying it has done more harm than good overall.
wis3boi
Why do people use this argument? It has been proen many times that many of the wars fought was not because of religion. But other gains such as land, politics, amd resources. Also when the hell did religion put us in the dark ages? Examples? Proof?. I'm sure even though we had religion many scientific discoveries was still being made...
it may not be the defining reason in some cases, but they always fall back on religion for support of the cause. If there wasnt any religion they wouldnt have anything to fall back on Actually, they'd use the same argument everyone else uses: Fighting for their homeland. Why aren't all the people who claim that Americans stole native American lands out there fighting for the Jews versus the Muslims? For that matter, why aren't the women's rights people also fighting the anti-women's rights religion of Islam?[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]
Religion has caused countless wars, deaths and disputes; then there's the dark ages that literary stopped advancement of the human race for 400 years.
But don't get me wrong though, it's not the religion themselves that causes problems, it's people's unability to "live and let live" Just saying it has done more harm than good overall.
Why do people use this argument? It has been proen many times that many of the wars fought was not because of religion. But other gains such as land, politics, amd resources. Also when the hell did religion put us in the dark ages? Examples? Proof?. I'm sure even though we had religion many scientific discoveries was still being made...
it may not be the defining reason in some cases, but they always fall back on religion for support of the cause. If there wasnt any religion they wouldnt have anything to fall back on Yeah because Hitler had nothing to fall back on other then religion. Last time I checked the only reason Hitler needed was hate to fuel his need for the Holocaust. Case and point sure religion is easy to fall back on. But people always make up another excuse to fuel their goal.hypocrisy , misuse, abuse, and the fact that most of it is false weezyfbYou know what would make for an actually useful discussion? If everyone who said "because I discovered it's false" would say what they discovered false about it. And more then the "why does God allow suffering?" idea, that excuse is older then almost all the users here. :P
[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Are you being serious? *looks around* Yes...I did ask for proof... Should we start in the scientific discoveries department? Ever heard of the geocentric model endorsed and enforced by the church? How about a man named Galileo Galilie?Why do people use this argument? It has been proen many times that many of the wars fought was not because of religion. But other gains such as land, politics, amd resources. Also when the hell did religion put us in the dark ages? Examples? Proof?. I'm sure even though we had religion many scientific discoveries was still being made...
MgamerBD
More people have died due to the Atheistic communistic regimes in China and Russia then in all the Crusades and the modern battles in Jerusalem combined. And let's not even start about the Holocaust. You Atheists are really good about killing people. :Pmariostar0001
Um, none of the atrocities committed by those regimes were in the name of Atheism.
[QUOTE="mariostar0001"]More people have died due to the Atheistic communistic regimes in China and Russia then in all the Crusades and the modern battles in Jerusalem combined. And let's not even start about the Holocaust. You Atheists are really good about killing people. :Praynimrod
Um, none of the atrocities committed by those regimes were in the name of Atheism.
They were/are regimes that actively hunt and kill those who hold any religion, especially Christians. Sounds somewhat Atheist to me. :P[QUOTE="mariostar0001"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="mariostar0001"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Yeah... Christian sites enjoy bashing agnostics or atheists. How about you find a legitimate source to back up your claim?Nibroc420Actually, Christian sites usually don't bash Atheists and the like, they are more likely just to talk about their own religion. And when they do "bash" them, they back it up. But I can find a secular source if you like. Or better yet, you can. Information age and all that. :P Or even better, you can provide proof towards your claims.
Ok, Ive seen Atheists bashing Religious people alo, but I've very rarley heard of religious people bashing atheists
Or even better, you can provide proof towards your claims.[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="mariostar0001"] Actually, Christian sites usually don't bash Atheists and the like, they are more likely just to talk about their own religion. And when they do "bash" them, they back it up. But I can find a secular source if you like. Or better yet, you can. Information age and all that. :PFundai
Ok, Ive seen Atheists bashing Religious people alo, but I've very rarley heard of religious people bashing atheists
Remind me again what happens to people who dont believe in Jesus and God? Btw, if you dont agree with atheists, guess what happens? Nothing, so long as you dont bring the subject up.Mostly my highly uninformed ideas regarding religious belief. Though, a lot of those ideas have been given to me by religious communities who, after many years of personal study of religion, I find have completley lost the thing that their religious founders discovered about our human nature, and attempted to explain to their followers. A book I am reading right now ("A History of God" by Karen Armstrong) is incredibly enlightening to this fact. Most modern Christians have absolutely no clue where their religion actually developed from. They conceive of "God" as an actual being, not of the mysterious "other" that defies rational and conceptual thought. Even the term "God" is idolatrous in that it doesn't create "apatheia" or silence in contemplation of a transcendent "other." Honestly, this book is opening many new doors of both inquiry and questions for me. I currently ascribe to a non-denominational interpretation of Buddhism... but reading about early Christianity and its ideas on the nature of "God" have me equating an experience of this "God" with the experience of nirvana in Buddhism. A state of mind where the concerns over the world disappear, and one becomes a living paradox, content to flow unresisting with the course of events as they unfold, holding no concept or prejudice in favour or against what happens. Which means that there is far more to my journey than I could have anticipated a week ago.foxhound_fox
Interesting points there. Have you read any of Bart Ehrman's books?
[QUOTE="Fundai"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Or even better, you can provide proof towards your claims.Nibroc420
Ok, Ive seen Atheists bashing Religious people alo, but I've very rarley heard of religious people bashing atheists
Remind me again what happens to people who dont believe in Jesus and God? Btw, if you dont agree with atheists, guess what happens? Nothing, so long as you dont bring the subject up.I'm not so big on the whole having to believe in God to be saved thing...
I believe that if you live a good life, your not going to hell, because you will have never have broken that conection that you soul has with God regardless of wether or not you knew it.
I also don't see us forcing people to our beliefs all the time, like most Atheists do...
I don't see us calling people Uneducated, stupid or blinded because of their beliefs
Also I've met atheists whop enjopy bringing the subject up so they can point out to the world " Hey, this guys has a religion."
[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Are you being serious?
*looks around* Yes...I did ask for proof... Should we start in the scientific discoveries department? Ever heard of the geocentric model endorsed and enforced by the church? How about a man named Galileo Galilie?But you see even though the church tried to stop it. Science still progressed...just slowly....[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"]Should we start in the scientific discoveries department? Ever heard of the geocentric model endorsed and enforced by the church? How about a man named Galileo Galilie?But you see even though the church tried to stop it. Science still progressed...just slowly.... Slower than it would have if the church hadn't interfered.[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] *looks around* Yes...I did ask for proof...MgamerBD
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