What would it take to make you pay for music/movies?

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EMOEVOLUTION

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#101 EMOEVOLUTION
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Support your favorite artists, buy/rent movies. Stop buying so much useless stuff.

bloodling
this seems like a reasonable solution compared to what the extremists are suggesting.
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#102 black_cat19
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Anyone that listens to music knows that the variation between specific cultures, and time periods of music will sound fairly similar. Nobody is producing something entirely original or unique. Ideas are not something that spawn from nothing. It's a cumulative effect as there are more people to pull from more ideas will be generated to influence specific behaviors or forms of music. You can listen to music and identify fairly easily where it probably originated from and what time period. You couldn't really call that unique then considering the amount of songs, and instrumentals that currently exist. They are not snow flakes.EMOEVOLUTION

Just because different pieces from the same period may sound fairly similar, that doesn't mean they are all the same.

While it is true that the basic building blocks of music (or any art form, for that matter) will always remain the same in any particular culture, and the general guidelines for the use of those building blocks, while changing from period to period, remain pretty much consistent within each period, art is, in the end, the expression of each individual artist's ideas and feelings. This means that music, by it's very nature as an art form, will lend each piece of work created, no matter how consistent with the rules of the particular period or culture in question, or even that particular artist's influences, a touch of individuality that separates it from all the rest and makes it unique, because the creator is unique.

No matter how influenced by culture, society, or other outside ideas a particular creator might be, the seal of a great musician (and a great artist, for that matter) is his ability to make his very own creativity, ingenuity, and resourcefulness, shine through the established rules and "molds" to create a true impression of his individuality, that which defines him and sets him apart from all others, and which can't ever be copied. I call it a soul, you may call it whatever you like, but that is the trademark of a true work of art.

So, in essence, they are actually snowflakes.

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I don't steal movies or music, because I'm not a thief.

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you can't really steal music. so, I wouldn't worry about it.

If you take a piece of music someone else came up with, copy it note for note and then claim it as your own, you are stealing that person's work.

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#103 harashawn
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

[QUOTE="harashawn"]

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] if laws do more harm than good for the population, they should always be broken.

and nobody is stealing, so I don't know why you're so mad.

These laws do not do harm, they protect the people who work hard to produce something from getting nothing for their work. :|

you see what you want to see.

check that. You see what you're capiable of seeing. And that's not much.

I am capable of seeing I've just been insulted; I am also capable of distinguishing between how the world works and how I think the world should work.
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#104 bloodling
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[QUOTE="bloodling"]

Support your favorite artists, buy/rent movies. Stop buying so much useless stuff.

EMOEVOLUTION

this seems like a reasonable solution compared to what the extremists are suggesting.

It's frustrating to buy all that stuff and see it for free. I guess most of them are rich, but it really sucks for small artists. A few bucks don't really make a difference for anyone, but it makes a big difference for the companies.

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#105 EMOEVOLUTION
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

Just because different pieces from the same period may sound fairly similar, that doesn't mean they are all the same.

While it is true that the basic building blocks of music (or any art form, for that matter) will always remain the same in any particular culture, and the general guidelines for the use of those building blocks, while changing from period to period, remain pretty much consistent within each period, art is, in the end, the expression of each individual artist's ideas and feelings. This means that music, by it's very nature as an art form, will lend each piece of work created, no matter how consistent with the rules of the particular period or culture in question, or even that particular artist's influences, a touch of individuality that separates it from all the rest and makes it unique, because the creator is unique.

No matter how influenced by culture, society, or other outside ideas a particular creator might be, the seal of a great musician (and a great artist, for that matter) is his ability to make his very own creativity, ingenuity, and resourcefulness, shine through the established rules and "molds" to create a true impression of his individuality, that which defines him and sets him apart from all others, and which can't ever be copied. I call it a soul, you may call it whatever you like, but that is the trademark of a true work of art.

So, in essence, they are actually snowflakes.

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

I don't steal movies or music, because I'm not a thief.

black_cat19

you can't really steal music. so, I wouldn't worry about it.

If you take a piece of music someone else came up with, copy it note for note and then claim it as your own, you are stealing that person's work.

1. Nobody has mentioned the resale of music products under a false pretense.

2. That's not stealing. As established by other users in this thread.

About music. The appearances of differences is not as significant as you believe, and in most cases are minor. The similarities are what we look for. Because it feels good to listen to what's familiar. Nobody wants to listen to something that's unfamiliar. We want something to connect with, something to remind us of what we know.

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#106 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Hey, if somebody tried to take something I created and didn't pay me for it, I'd be pissed off too.

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except something you created probably came from ideas, and materials other people created. so you didn't really create anything. You just used what was available to you. Human society gives and takes ideas freely with little thought of owing anyone. IT's the social elite who hate this though. They want to control these ideas, and profit off of them.

Sure you did. You said it yourself, you used what was available to you to make something of your own. Of course the materials didn't "belong to you", they had to come from somewhere, but the end result is a product of YOUR work.

No comment on the rest of your post. I'm not discussing money or profit here.

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#107 Dark_Knight6
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I buy movies and albums that I like. But I'm sure I'd be happier and more willing to buy them if they were cheaper, with more of that money going to the artist rather than the company.