I'de be disappointed at first but I will accept it shortly after99RanchMarket
I'd do the same, but half dissapointed and half freaked out =/.
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I hope this dosen't turn into a religion thread.... 8 persons have voted they like apples, HELL YEAH!MrEnvelope
it won't. i'm kidding by the way. i would rather kill myself than see another religion thread.
[QUOTE="MrEnvelope"]I hope this dosen't turn into a religion thread.... 8 persons have voted they like apples, HELL YEAH!lilburtonboy748
it won't. i'm kidding by the way. i would rather kill myself than see another religion thread.
They are getting old and annoying. I hate when threads like this one become infested with religious arguments. Gamespot should make a separate forum dedicated to Religion only or maybe a religion sticky.
[QUOTE="lilburtonboy748"][QUOTE="MrEnvelope"]I hope this dosen't turn into a religion thread.... 8 persons have voted they like apples, HELL YEAH!MrEnvelope
it won't. i'm kidding by the way. i would rather kill myself than see another religion thread.
They are getting old and annoying. I hate when threads like this one become infested with religious arguments. Gamespot should make a separate forum dedicated to Religion only or maybe a religion sticky.
good idea...a religion thread so i wouldn't have to skip over half of the topics in OT.
i voted for apples...
[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'd still love him and treat him like a son. Because of this, however, I'd quit my job in the ministry (which I'll have by then) as I have the belief that if you can't teach your children how to live as God would have them then you can't lead a congregation in how to live as God would have them. I'd treat him no different and love him just the same but I'd be depressed in feeling as if I failed as a parent. I'd do everything in my power to, as many would say, love him into the kingdom.mindstorm
You can't "teach" your kids to be straight. It's not an optional thing.
I do not believe that to be true but even if it is the case then I'd simply advise him to not partake in homosexual acts. There are many who deprive themselves of relationships in order to follow Christ. You can't argue with me on that, look at people like Mother Teresa and priests.But that's irrelevent; there's no link between that and sexual orientation.
What I was simply stating is that because he is attracted to males does not mean he has to be in a relationship with one. It is not irrelevent.[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'd still love him and treat him like a son. Because of this, however, I'd quit my job in the ministry (which I'll have by then) as I have the belief that if you can't teach your children how to live as God would have them then you can't lead a congregation in how to live as God would have them. I'd treat him no different and love him just the same but I'd be depressed in feeling as if I failed as a parent. I'd do everything in my power to, as many would say, love him into the kingdom.mindstorm
You can't "teach" your kids to be straight. It's not an optional thing.
I do not believe that to be true but even if it is the case then I'd simply advise him to not partake in homosexual acts. There are many who deprive themselves of relationships in order to follow Christ. You can't argue with me on that, look at people like Mother Teresa and priests.Believe what you want. But I know, for a fact, that I didn't wake up one day and decide to like guys and girls.
Id probably get protective of who he goes out with.
*comes home
"hi dad, this is ray",
"oh, hello..... RAY...:x.. so ray, what do you do for a living?'',
" Well im inbetween jobs right now, ive been trying to get this job down at this club"
" so thats what you plan to do with the rest of your life? thats your career choice work at clubs? its that how you plan to support my son in the future? what if you adopt children? what kinda club are we talking about working at here? the kind were you run around in your G-string as other guys stuff dollar bills down them!!"
"DAD THATS ENOUGH"
"what?? im just asking the boy son, this has nothing to do with you",
" Dad i hate you!! come on ray were leaving!!"
"Son, wait... come on!! dont walk out on me! BA!!!"
atleast, thats how i see a normal night with me and my gay son would be like
[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'd still love him and treat him like a son. Because of this, however, I'd quit my job in the ministry (which I'll have by then) as I have the belief that if you can't teach your children how to live as God would have them then you can't lead a congregation in how to live as God would have them. I'd treat him no different and love him just the same but I'd be depressed in feeling as if I failed as a parent. I'd do everything in my power to, as many would say, love him into the kingdom.Dark_Knight6
You can't "teach" your kids to be straight. It's not an optional thing.
I do not believe that to be true but even if it is the case then I'd simply advise him to not partake in homosexual acts. There are many who deprive themselves of relationships in order to follow Christ. You can't argue with me on that, look at people like Mother Teresa and priests.Believe what you want. But I know, for a fact, that I didn't wake up one day and decide to like guys and girls.
And I wouldn't think so. I'm not saying it's as simple as that. I do admit that when someone is a homosexual they cannot simply turn it off just like an alcoholic or drug abuser (not trying put you down in comparing you to such btw). Like an alcoholic an drug abuser, it is possible to turn away from that way of life but it is a difficult thing to do typically. There is also the possibility of relapse and the like as well.[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'd still love him and treat him like a son. Because of this, however, I'd quit my job in the ministry (which I'll have by then) as I have the belief that if you can't teach your children how to live as God would have them then you can't lead a congregation in how to live as God would have them. I'd treat him no different and love him just the same but I'd be depressed in feeling as if I failed as a parent. I'd do everything in my power to, as many would say, love him into the kingdom.mindstorm
You can't "teach" your kids to be straight. It's not an optional thing.
I do not believe that to be true but even if it is the case then I'd simply advise him to not partake in homosexual acts. There are many who deprive themselves of relationships in order to follow Christ. You can't argue with me on that, look at people like Mother Teresa and priests.Believe what you want. But I know, for a fact, that I didn't wake up one day and decide to like guys and girls.
And I wouldn't think so. I'm not saying it's as simple as that. I do admit that when someone is a homosexual they cannot simply turn it off just like an alcoholic or drug abuser (not trying put you down in comparing you to such btw). Like an alcoholic an drug abuser, it is possible to turn away from that way of life but it is a difficult thing to do typically. There is also the possibility of relapse and the like as well.I'd accept him of course, but I'd have a talk with him about it of course, making sure he really is gay and not just confused, explaining to him that people are going to descriminate against him and to not tell people he's gay unless he's known them a while.
[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'd still love him and treat him like a son. Because of this, however, I'd quit my job in the ministry (which I'll have by then) as I have the belief that if you can't teach your children how to live as God would have them then you can't lead a congregation in how to live as God would have them. I'd treat him no different and love him just the same but I'd be depressed in feeling as if I failed as a parent. I'd do everything in my power to, as many would say, love him into the kingdom.xaos
You can't "teach" your kids to be straight. It's not an optional thing.
I do not believe that to be true but even if it is the case then I'd simply advise him to not partake in homosexual acts. There are many who deprive themselves of relationships in order to follow Christ. You can't argue with me on that, look at people like Mother Teresa and priests.Believe what you want. But I know, for a fact, that I didn't wake up one day and decide to like guys and girls.
And I wouldn't think so. I'm not saying it's as simple as that. I do admit that when someone is a homosexual they cannot simply turn it off just like an alcoholic or drug abuser (not trying put you down in comparing you to such btw). Like an alcoholic an drug abuser, it is possible to turn away from that way of life but it is a difficult thing to do typically. There is also the possibility of relapse and the like as well.That is quite possibly the most corny thing I've written on here...
[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'd still love him and treat him like a son. Because of this, however, I'd quit my job in the ministry (which I'll have by then) as I have the belief that if you can't teach your children how to live as God would have them then you can't lead a congregation in how to live as God would have them. I'd treat him no different and love him just the same but I'd be depressed in feeling as if I failed as a parent. I'd do everything in my power to, as many would say, love him into the kingdom.mindstorm
You can't "teach" your kids to be straight. It's not an optional thing.
I do not believe that to be true but even if it is the case then I'd simply advise him to not partake in homosexual acts. There are many who deprive themselves of relationships in order to follow Christ. You can't argue with me on that, look at people like Mother Teresa and priests.Believe what you want. But I know, for a fact, that I didn't wake up one day and decide to like guys and girls.
And I wouldn't think so. I'm not saying it's as simple as that. I do admit that when someone is a homosexual they cannot simply turn it off just like an alcoholic or drug abuser (not trying put you down in comparing you to such btw). Like an alcoholic an drug abuser, it is possible to turn away from that way of life but it is a difficult thing to do typically. There is also the possibility of relapse and the like as well.Turn away from being myself? Interesting. No matter what, this won't go away.
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'd still love him and treat him like a son. Because of this, however, I'd quit my job in the ministry (which I'll have by then) as I have the belief that if you can't teach your children how to live as God would have them then you can't lead a congregation in how to live as God would have them. I'd treat him no different and love him just the same but I'd be depressed in feeling as if I failed as a parent. I'd do everything in my power to, as many would say, love him into the kingdom.mindstorm
You can't "teach" your kids to be straight. It's not an optional thing.
I do not believe that to be true but even if it is the case then I'd simply advise him to not partake in homosexual acts. There are many who deprive themselves of relationships in order to follow Christ. You can't argue with me on that, look at people like Mother Teresa and priests.Believe what you want. But I know, for a fact, that I didn't wake up one day and decide to like guys and girls.
And I wouldn't think so. I'm not saying it's as simple as that. I do admit that when someone is a homosexual they cannot simply turn it off just like an alcoholic or drug abuser (not trying put you down in comparing you to such btw). Like an alcoholic an drug abuser, it is possible to turn away from that way of life but it is a difficult thing to do typically. There is also the possibility of relapse and the like as well.That is quite possibly the most corny thing I've written on here...
Yeah, Christians are the open-minded collection. That's why you insist that homosexuality is a choice. :roll:
lol, the first step towards the road to recovery from that is admitting that I have a problem. I do not admit such so it seems it'll be quite a while until I recover from Christianity. I must warn you that it is contageous. A strong remedy for this Christianity is being closed-minded and wanting to live for yourself rather than God.Non-Christians are closed minded? That's a new one.That is quite possibly the most corny thing I've written on here...
mindstorm
[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'd still love him and treat him like a son. Because of this, however, I'd quit my job in the ministry (which I'll have by then) as I have the belief that if you can't teach your children how to live as God would have them then you can't lead a congregation in how to live as God would have them. I'd treat him no different and love him just the same but I'd be depressed in feeling as if I failed as a parent. I'd do everything in my power to, as many would say, love him into the kingdom.TM_Darkside
You can't "teach" your kids to be straight. It's not an optional thing.
I do not believe that to be true but even if it is the case then I'd simply advise him to not partake in homosexual acts. There are many who deprive themselves of relationships in order to follow Christ. You can't argue with me on that, look at people like Mother Teresa and priests.Believe what you want. But I know, for a fact, that I didn't wake up one day and decide to like guys and girls.
And I wouldn't think so. I'm not saying it's as simple as that. I do admit that when someone is a homosexual they cannot simply turn it off just like an alcoholic or drug abuser (not trying put you down in comparing you to such btw). Like an alcoholic an drug abuser, it is possible to turn away from that way of life but it is a difficult thing to do typically. There is also the possibility of relapse and the like as well.That is quite possibly the most corny thing I've written on here...
Yeah, Christians are the open-minded collection. That's why you insist that homosexuality is a choice. :roll:
Whether you believe it or not, I am actually a rather open-minded person though I admit there are many Christians who are not. The same goes for most belief systems including atheism.I never said you wanted to become a homosexual, you likely did without any voluntary action. I never sought to have my own sins either. What I am saying is that there is a choice to turn away from that way of life. I know it's not "hey you know what? I want to start being straight tomorrow!" It's something that takes patience and can possibly take years to overcome if not a lifetime. No one ever becomes perfect in this lifetime but that doesn't mean one shouldn't seek to become perfect.
[QUOTE="mindstorm"]lol, the first step towards the road to recovery from that is admitting that I have a problem. I do not admit such so it seems it'll be quite a while until I recover from Christianity. I must warn you that it is contageous. A strong remedy for this Christianity is being closed-minded and wanting to live for yourself rather than God.Non-Christians are closed minded? That's a new one. I never said there were not any narrow-minded Christians. What I merely meant was to open your mind to the slightest possibility that Christianity can indeed be true.That is quite possibly the most corny thing I've written on here...
bman784
Whether you believe it or not, I am actually a rather open-minded person though I admit there are many Christians who are not. The same goes for most belief systems including atheism.
I never said you wanted to become a homosexual, you likely did without any voluntary action. I never sought to have my own sins either. What I am saying is that there is a choice to turn away from that way of life. I know it's not "hey you know what? I want to start being straight tomorrow!" It's something that takes patience and can possibly take years to overcome if not a lifetime. No one ever becomes perfect in this lifetime but that doesn't mean one shouldn't seek to become perfect.
mindstorm
How can you fix something that's not broken?
[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]lol, the first step towards the road to recovery from that is admitting that I have a problem. I do not admit such so it seems it'll be quite a while until I recover from Christianity. I must warn you that it is contageous. A strong remedy for this Christianity is being closed-minded and wanting to live for yourself rather than God.Non-Christians are closed minded? That's a new one. I never said there were not any narrow-minded Christians. What I merely meant was to open your mind to the slightest possibility that Christianity can indeed be true.That is quite possibly the most corny thing I've written on here...
mindstorm
I wouldnt let him leave the house until he was fixediWorkForDiddy
:lol: Can you call a specialist for something like that?
Wow, are you planning on your son being a retard "Son, if you go telling people you're gay they're going to make fun of you". I'm sure by the time he has a preference, he'll realize that with the insult "you're gay being flung around for every aspect of life.I'd accept him of course, but I'd have a talk with him about it of course, making sure he really is gay and not just confused, explaining to him that people are going to descriminate against him and to not tell people he's gay unless he's known them a while.
Thechaninator
[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Whether you believe it or not, I am actually a rather open-minded person though I admit there are many Christians who are not. The same goes for most belief systems including atheism.
I never said you wanted to become a homosexual, you likely did without any voluntary action. I never sought to have my own sins either. What I am saying is that there is a choice to turn away from that way of life. I know it's not "hey you know what? I want to start being straight tomorrow!" It's something that takes patience and can possibly take years to overcome if not a lifetime. No one ever becomes perfect in this lifetime but that doesn't mean one shouldn't seek to become perfect.
Dark_Knight6
How can you fix something that's not broken?
As I said in reference to myself, the first step is admitting there is a problem...
[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]lol, the first step towards the road to recovery from that is admitting that I have a problem. I do not admit such so it seems it'll be quite a while until I recover from Christianity. I must warn you that it is contageous. A strong remedy for this Christianity is being closed-minded and wanting to live for yourself rather than God.Non-Christians are closed minded? That's a new one. I never said there were not any narrow-minded Christians. What I merely meant was to open your mind to the slightest possibility that Christianity can indeed be true.That is quite possibly the most corny thing I've written on here...
bman784
[QUOTE="iWorkForDiddy"]I wouldnt let him leave the house until he was fixedDark_Knight6
:lol: Can you call a specialist for something like that?
Yeah a psychiatrist, but I refuse to give away any of my hard earned money to one just because my kid is acting up, plus I don care about his feeling and shrinks just want to talk about feelings. Ill just teach him my way...its free and more effective.
[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="iWorkForDiddy"]I wouldnt let him leave the house until he was fixediWorkForDiddy
:lol: Can you call a specialist for something like that?
Yeah a psychiatrist, but I refuse to give away any of my hard earned money to one just because my kid is acting up, plus I don care about his feeling and shrinks just want to talk about feelings. Ill just teach him my way...its free and more effective.
Any sane psychiatrist wouldn't see a problem because there isn't one in the first place.
[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="iWorkForDiddy"]I wouldnt let him leave the house until he was fixediWorkForDiddy
:lol: Can you call a specialist for something like that?
Yeah a psychiatrist, but I refuse to give away any of my hard earned money to one just because my kid is acting up, plus I don care about his feeling and shrinks just want to talk about feelings. Ill just teach him my way...its free and more effective.
Last time I checked, homosexuality hasn't been viewed as a mental disorder since the 80s, so sending your child to a psychiatrist would be a waste of your son's time and your money.
[QUOTE="iWorkForDiddy"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="iWorkForDiddy"]I wouldnt let him leave the house until he was fixedalwayspureblood
:lol: Can you call a specialist for something like that?
Yeah a psychiatrist, but I refuse to give away any of my hard earned money to one just because my kid is acting up, plus I don care about his feeling and shrinks just want to talk about feelings. Ill just teach him my way...its free and more effective.
Last time I checked, homosexuality hasn't been viewed as a mental disorder since the 80s, so sending your child to a psychiatrist would be a waste of your son's time and your money.
Well, he did say he'd "teach him his way." And, if I'm picking up on the euphemism correctly, that means he'd beat his son.
I would love him anyway, but I would do this:
1. Lock him up in a dark room with non-g@y things (it would almost look gothic)
2. I would turn up the music, which includes the always giddy Slayer, extremely wet-in-pants-worthy Metallica, and the so-sweet-you-can-eat Korn.
3. If that doesn't turn him straight, you might as well read from the bible and hear what God thinks about his ways.
If those steps don't work, then you should love him anyway.
[QUOTE="alwayspureblood"][QUOTE="iWorkForDiddy"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="iWorkForDiddy"]I wouldnt let him leave the house until he was fixedDark_Knight6
:lol: Can you call a specialist for something like that?
Yeah a psychiatrist, but I refuse to give away any of my hard earned money to one just because my kid is acting up, plus I don care about his feeling and shrinks just want to talk about feelings. Ill just teach him my way...its free and more effective.
Last time I checked, homosexuality hasn't been viewed as a mental disorder since the 80s, so sending your child to a psychiatrist would be a waste of your son's time and your money.
Well, he did say he'd "teach him his way." And, if I'm picking up on the euphemism correctly, that means he'd beat his son.
Thats what I was thinking as well.
Advise him to shoot for Bi. Then he can get a wife and I can still have more grand kids.:) As for him still liking men along with women, who cares? Fetishes are a dime a dozen, everybody's got a few to hid.VacantPsalm
Wait, being Bi is a fetish?
[QUOTE="VacantPsalm"]Advise him to shoot for Bi. Then he can get a wife and I can still have more grand kids.:) As for him still liking men along with women, who cares? Fetishes are a dime a dozen, everybody's got a few to hid.Dark_Knight6
Wait, being Bi is a fetish?
No. I was saying if he could be bi he could still have a wife and give me grand children. And the fact he still liked men (that's what bi people do, hence why we don't call them strait) wouldn't really matter cuz everyone likes something they can't get. (these things are sometimes called fetishes. I actually typed abnormal fetishes a first but thought it might cause a bit of controversy. Yea, I sure dodged that bullet.:?) It also wasn't the most super serious post I've ever typed so don't take it too hard.[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="VacantPsalm"]Advise him to shoot for Bi. Then he can get a wife and I can still have more grand kids.:) As for him still liking men along with women, who cares? Fetishes are a dime a dozen, everybody's got a few to hid.VacantPsalm
Wait, being Bi is a fetish?
No. I was saying if he could be bi he could still have a wife and give me grand children. And the fact he still liked men (that's what bi people do, hence why we don't call them strait) wouldn't really matter cuz everyone likes something they can't get. (these things are sometimes called fetishes. I actually typed abnormal fetishes a first but thought it might cause a bit of controversy. Yea, I sure dodged that bullet.:?) It also wasn't the most super serious post I've ever typed so don't take it too hard.I wasn't like attacking you, I thought it was funny. I was actually going to add "Woot! I'm kinky!" at the end but didn't.
[QUOTE="TM_Darkside"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'd still love him and treat him like a son. Because of this, however, I'd quit my job in the ministry (which I'll have by then) as I have the belief that if you can't teach your children how to live as God would have them then you can't lead a congregation in how to live as God would have them. I'd treat him no different and love him just the same but I'd be depressed in feeling as if I failed as a parent. I'd do everything in my power to, as many would say, love him into the kingdom.mindstorm
You can't "teach" your kids to be straight. It's not an optional thing.
I do not believe that to be true but even if it is the case then I'd simply advise him to not partake in homosexual acts. There are many who deprive themselves of relationships in order to follow Christ. You can't argue with me on that, look at people like Mother Teresa and priests.Believe what you want. But I know, for a fact, that I didn't wake up one day and decide to like guys and girls.
And I wouldn't think so. I'm not saying it's as simple as that. I do admit that when someone is a homosexual they cannot simply turn it off just like an alcoholic or drug abuser (not trying put you down in comparing you to such btw). Like an alcoholic an drug abuser, it is possible to turn away from that way of life but it is a difficult thing to do typically. There is also the possibility of relapse and the like as well.That is quite possibly the most corny thing I've written on here...
Yeah, Christians are the open-minded collection. That's why you insist that homosexuality is a choice. :roll:
Whether you believe it or not, I am actually a rather open-minded person though I admit there are many Christians who are not. The same goes for most belief systems including atheism.I never said you wanted to become a homosexual, you likely did without any voluntary action. I never sought to have my own sins either. What I am saying is that there is a choice to turn away from that way of life. I know it's not "hey you know what? I want to start being straight tomorrow!" It's something that takes patience and can possibly take years to overcome if not a lifetime. No one ever becomes perfect in this lifetime but that doesn't mean one shouldn't seek to become perfect.
I think people are jumping on you simply because you're Christian and whatnot.
I'm not going to dispute any scripture or anything(enough religious threads as is), I'm going to KIND OF agree with what you said, in a way.
IF your son was a Christian, or had leanings, then he could abstain from sexual activity. Sex is not a required event, much like how drinking and drugs aren't required in average people's lives. Of course, alcoholism can be both overcome and prevented, where Homosexuality can just be...well, locked up. Kid could marry a woman, but he wouldn't be attracted to her physically or sexually; it would be getting married to get married with someone he likely cares for as a close friend. Could have sex but it would be a chore and could likely require some viagra. It's possible to remain in the closet for a lifetime, as people have done before throughout history, but it's asking someone to hold a terribly heavy burden.
There's always a way around sexual preferences, but it's never anything anyone should ask of a person.
If MY son was gay(well my son in the future, if I can adopt or artificially inseminate), I'd be perfectly ok with it. By then, I'd imagine being gay would be commonplace and wouldn't have any of the obstacles it does now.
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