What would you do with $1,000,000,000 (one billion dollars)?

How so? I mean, yeah, it is a lot of hypothetical stick figures to draw, but as a number in and of itself, it's not like 10^5493.

coolbeans90

It's difficult for me to explain the specifics, but whenever I see reference to very large numbers; it is usually said the human mind isn't equipped for them. For example.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHAi3vCfESE

There is also the documentary "Britain's Trillion Pound Horror Story" that talks about it, but sadly It cannot be watched outside the UK. So here's images from a clip physically demonstrating £4.8 trillion in a £50 note pile.

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How so? I mean, yeah, it is a lot of hypothetical stick figures to draw, but as a number in and of itself, it's not like 10^5493.

AnnoyedDragon

It's difficult for me to explain the specifics, but whenever I see reference to very large numbers; it is usually said the human mind isn't equipped for them. For example.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHAi3vCfESE

There is also the documentary "Britain's Trillion Pound Horror Story" that talks about it, but sadly It cannot be watched outside the UK. So here's images from a clip physically demonstrating £4.8 trillion in a £50 note pile.

Yes, that is a number. Many things stacked are very tall. (width per unit * number of units) This is hardly something extraordinarily difficult to grasp - elementary, rather.

Yes, that is a number. Many things stacked are very tall. (width per unit * number of units) This is hardly something extraordinarily difficult to grasp - elementary, rather.

coolbeans90

If you claim that to be the case. It's just whenever I hear about the rule of high numbers, that the human mind isn't equipped for it.

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Yes, that is a number. Many things stacked are very tall. (width per unit * number of units) This is hardly something extraordinarily difficult to grasp - elementary, rather.

AnnoyedDragon

If you claim that to be the case. It's just whenever I hear about the rule of high numbers, that the human mind isn't equipped for it.

We do it all the time.

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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Yes, that is a number. Many things stacked are very tall. (width per unit * number of units) This is hardly something extraordinarily difficult to grasp - elementary, rather.

If you claim that to be the case. It's just whenever I hear about the rule of high numbers, that the human mind isn't equipped for it.

We do it all the time.

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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Yes, that is a number. Many things stacked are very tall. (width per unit * number of units) This is hardly something extraordinarily difficult to grasp - elementary, rather.

coolbeans90

If you claim that to be the case. It's just whenever I hear about the rule of high numbers, that the human mind isn't equipped for it.

We do it all the time.

I would buy a house in every state so when I travel between states I can always have a place to stay. UprootedDreamer

You'd probably spend less money if you just rented rooms at nice hotels.

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If you claim that to be the case. It's just whenever I hear about the rule of high numbers, that the human mind isn't equipped for it.

Frame_Dragger

We do it all the time.

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We do it all the time.

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If you claim that to be the case. It's just whenever I hear about the rule of high numbers, that the human mind isn't equipped for it.

Reptylus

We do it all the time.

The normal human mind is quite capable and many (or even most) do on a pretty regular basis. People (I would hope) don't just throw numbers around like 1.9 billion without a basic grasp of the implications of said numbers.

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We do it all the time.

Frame_Dragger

I think if people used trillions as regularly as we used billions, I think some level of familiarity would be pretty easy. In terms of money, it's already a p. easy number to grasp.

[QUOTE="Reptylus"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

We do it all the time.

The normal human mind is quite capable and many (or even most) do on a pretty regular basis. People (I would hope) don't just throw numbers around like 1.9 billion without a basic grasp of the implications of said numbers.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

We do it all the time.

coolbeans90

I think if people used trillions as regularly as we used billions, I think some level of familiarity would be pretty easy. In terms of money, it's already a p. easy number to grasp.

edit: Remember: Million = 10^6th, Billionis three orders of magnitude greater at 10^9th... TRILLION is 6 orders of magnitude greater than million at 10^12thIs it POSSIBLE? Consider the image I'm about to post... you imagine a stack of money, and without losing track of each stack being composed of many bills, and each brick being many stacks, and each palette being many bricks... you can do a billion. For a trillion... you pretty much need to think in terms of truckloads, which distnaces you from the notion of the individual bill.

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[QUOTE="Reptylus"] Not really. Of course, especially on the level of state affairs we often talk about billions of dollars, but do we actually use such high numbers? I've never heard someone talk about $ 1895476679.84. Instead people say 1,9 billion and go on with life. That's a very small number. The detailed stuff is handled by computers because they can work with 9-digit numbers. A normal human being just can't imagine that stuff.Frame_Dragger

The normal human mind is quite capable and many (or even most) do on a pretty regular basis. People (I would hope) don't just throw numbers around like 1.9 billion without a basic grasp of the implications of said numbers.

I am still skeptical that people would just throw out numbers that they have no comprehension of. Perhaps I overestimate them.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

The normal human mind is quite capable and many (or even most) do on a pretty regular basis. People (I would hope) don't just throw numbers around like 1.9 billion without a basic grasp of the implications of said numbers.

I am still skeptical that people would just throw out numbers that they have no comprehension of. Perhaps I overestimate them.

With a billion dollars I would use alot of it to influence government. Mainly to just weed out the old, the ignorant, and the plain stupid. Try to improve society as a whole.

On a personal level, who knows. I would do it all. An awesome penthouse, miracle whips, private jet maybe. I'd go nuts.

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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] The move to a billion is not as hard as some believe, I agree iwth you. Take a picture of 1 milllion people in a crowd (say the million man march). Blow it up in detail, then make 1000 smaller version and put them together on a playing field. You can get a visceral sense of the numbers. Try that with a trillion, and... yeah, no.Frame_Dragger

I think if people used trillions as regularly as we used billions, I think some level of familiarity would be pretty easy. In terms of money, it's already a p. easy number to grasp.

1000 billion is a lot, but considering the frequency said term is thrown around in terms of finance, it's not exactly incomprehensible. Mental yardsticks are relatively simple to develop in that respect. A trillion dollars relative to the size of an economy, the number of salaries at a certain wage rate, number of mansions, etc. I think stacking them to the moon doesn't quite build as useful of a grasp of the numbers themselves, but that is a different point altogether.

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2 chicks at the same time.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I think if people used trillions as regularly as we used billions, I think some level of familiarity would be pretty easy. In terms of money, it's already a p. easy number to grasp.

1000 billion is a lot, but considering the frequency said term is thrown around in terms of finance, it's not exactly incomprehensible. Mental yardsticks are relatively simple to develop in that respect. A trillion dollars relative to the size of an economy, the number of salaries at a certain wage rate, number of mansions, etc. I think stacking them to the moon doesn't quite build as useful of a grasp of the numbers themselves, but that is a different point altogether.

1.602e-19 C

Maybe... and if you put someone in a warehouse stacked with bills the way that picture shows, given time maybe you could really grasp and visualize that quantity day to day, but otherwise.... mmmmm... I doubt it. Besides, when you compare 1 trillion to 500 billion, or a 14 trillion debt to a 2 trillion debt... you could easily be thining, "1000-500 = 500, or 1/2, and the other is 14/2 = 7". I don't mean that someone can't grasp the impact of 1 trillion, but if you ask them to imagine a single unit composed of 1 TRILLION individual pieces... that would probably exceed most people's ability to manage. Even in science, there's a reason why we learn to take the exponential form; it's far easier to think in terms of single/double digit exponants than it is to even write out tons of zeros.Frame_Dragger

Seems like laziness to me.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Maybe... and if you put someone in a warehouse stacked with bills the way that picture shows, given time maybe you could really grasp and visualize that quantity day to day, but otherwise.... mmmmm... I doubt it. Besides, when you compare 1 trillion to 500 billion, or a 14 trillion debt to a 2 trillion debt... you could easily be thining, "1000-500 = 500, or 1/2, and the other is 14/2 = 7". I don't mean that someone can't grasp the impact of 1 trillion, but if you ask them to imagine a single unit composed of 1 TRILLION individual pieces... that would probably exceed most people's ability to manage. Even in science, there's a reason why we learn to take the exponential form; it's far easier to think in terms of single/double digit exponants than it is to even write out tons of zeros.coolbeans90

Seems like laziness to me.

hmmm buy everything i always wanted. donate some of it to charity and save the rest.

Do like Scrooge McDuck and dive into it in my money vault.

Do like Scrooge McDuck and dive into it in my money vault.

soulless4now

And break a lot of bones, seeing as how that is all metal that you are diving into lol.

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Do like Scrooge McDuck and dive into it in my money vault.

And break a lot of bones, seeing as how that is all metal that you are diving into lol.

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Do like Scrooge McDuck and dive into it in my money vault.

Lach0121

And break a lot of bones, seeing as how that is all metal that you are diving into lol.

I have decided that I would buy a billion lottery tickets.

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Do like Scrooge McDuck and dive into it in my money vault.

And break a lot of bones, seeing as how that is all metal that you are diving into lol.

I would make a pool. Swim in it everyday.

End System Wars by buying everyone there one of every console and a gaming PC to enjoy every game without pointless fanboyism. :P

In a pile, that would be like diving into a brick.Frame_Dragger

Create a 1337 super computer, ALL MANAGED MYSELF. Also a nice ass car, not sure what, street legal f1 care obviously. A racing suit, super expensive to just drive around in cuz I rich.

Oh and play quakelive all day since I don't need a job or anything.

I would buy myself some happiness.

Alright im reading this from pg4 about grasping the idea of 1billion?? Yeah, I dont think a human knows what to do with the money when calculate it down to the penny at least not with one person. Imagine that you decide to receive the bills in $20 and your job is manage to spend each bill on something different, I dont think anyone is capable of doing that even if they try, alright maybe einstein has it. Thats why every billionaire has hundreds to thousands of workers below him/her making his/her money work.

edit: Oh yeah, speaking of 1B$!! Ill travel the whole asia then europe, andthensome... Oh heck Ill build some schools and cure some diseases with that. At the end of the day Ill buy a peaceful house to live in and fix up my old car.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]In a pile, that would be like diving into a brick.soulless4now

Alright im reading this from pg4 about grasping the idea of 1billion?? Yeah, I dont think a human knows what to do with the money when calculate it down to the penny at least not with one person. Imagine that you decide to receive the bills in $20 and your job is manage to spend each bill on something different, I dont think anyone is capable of doing that even if they try, alright maybe einstein has it. Thats why every billionaire has hundreds to thousands of workers below him/her making his/her money work.

edit: Oh yeah, speaking of 1B$!! Ill travel the whole asia then europe, andthensome... Oh heck Ill build some schools and cure some diseases with that. At the end of the day Ill buy a peaceful house to live in and fix up my old car.

Buy a country and make them worship me;)