What you guys think about this time-line of extinction scientists created??

It boggles my mind that anyone in the world could think Global Warming isn't happening or that humans aren't causing it. You have to be a lunatic. Seriously. CaptHawkeye

[QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"]

I happen to be one of those people who doesn't believe everything I'm told by the mainstream scientific community. That, coupled with lots of evidence, means I do not believe in manmade GW.

They call this a concensus?

Read the sunspots

Hey Al Gore, We Want a Refund!

Algore's Nobel Prize for Globaloney

Washington, D.C. Resident Finds 1922 Article Showing Early Signs of Climate Change

NASA Chief's Global Warming Remarks Called 'Naive'

Runaway Climate Captured?

Global Warming: Climate of Fear?

There is no Appreciable Climate Warming

The Truth About Greenland

Sun Blamed for Warming of Earth and Other Worlds

How Now Brown Cloud?

Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming 'Greatest Scam in History'

Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists

I'd have more, but some of the links I had saved in Favorites lead to nowhere now...hmm. Cover-up?

CaptHawkeye

Ah, I see. You're one of those wacko self proclaimed psuedo scientists. High school physics too much for you?

My personal favorite is I had a argument with some one who said the sea level wouldn't raise if the ice caps melt.. He called me a idiot for ever thinking that, so I had to explain how displacement works (on how ice is above water meaning not taking up the volume for the water to raise level, not to mention basic chemistry) and he still didn't believe me.. Are these people just uneducated or something.. really..

Yes, of course. scientists are above everyone, aren't they?joao_22990

Actually, yes they are. Who has provided for more than 95% of the infrastructure of the modern world? Scientists. Who has provided for the computer you are typing on right now? Scientists. Who has provided for the combustion engine that allows us to grow, harvest, and transport enough food to allow our world to sustain many morebillions of people at once thus allowing you and many of your friends to even exist. Scientists.

Specialy when one scientist says "all of my friends agree with me", we all must believe right?

Yes, actually.

And note i didn't say global warming not happening. Temperatures aren't regulated for this time of the year, at least where i live. I am very aware of global arming.

At least you aren't a complete idiot.

Remember, if it weren't for scientists, Nikola Tesla would have changed the world in ways we never imagined. Oh, but of course, scientists are the most trustfull persons in the world, aren't they?

:roll: So of course, one wierdo maverick is enough to throw out the whole scientific community right? Tell me, does your anti-intellectual stance make you popular with your red neck friends at the trailer park?

[QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]It boggles my mind that anyone in the world could think Global Warming isn't happening or that humans aren't causing it. You have to be a lunatic. Seriously. nuclear_cookout

The fact that you think evolution is false shows that you really can't be listened to, sense you clearly do not read up with science..

Ah, I see. You're one of those wacko self proclaimed psuedo scientists. High school physics too much for you?

My personal favorite is I had a argument with some one who said the sea level wouldn't raise if the ice caps melt.. He called me a idiot for ever thinking that, so I had to explain how displacement works (on how ice is above water meaning not taking up the volume for the water to raise level, not to mention basic chemistry) and he still didn't believe me.. Are these people just uneducated or something.. really..

sSubZerOo

It's funny that he tried to tout anything from Fox News as reliable. If you're trying to look like an idiot, posting something from FOX is one hell of a way to do it.

[QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]It boggles my mind that anyone in the world could think Global Warming isn't happening or that humans aren't causing it. You have to be a lunatic. Seriously. nuclear_cookout

Your BS conservative wank articles from Fox News and NewsBusters? No thanks. If I wanted to read about idiots online i'd go to prisonplanet.org. At least they're so incredibly delusional they're funny.

[QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"][QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]It boggles my mind that anyone in the world could think Global Warming isn't happening or that humans aren't causing it. You have to be a lunatic. Seriously. sSubZerOo

The fact that you think evolution is false shows that you really can't be listened to, sense you clearly do not read up with science..

Forget the evolution thing. When he believes things like that you know he should be ignored entirely when it comes to his opinions on science.

[QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"][QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]It boggles my mind that anyone in the world could think Global Warming isn't happening or that humans aren't causing it. You have to be a lunatic. Seriously. sSubZerOo

The fact that you think evolution is false shows that you really can't be listened to, sense you clearly do not read up with science..

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Ah, I see. You're one of those wacko self proclaimed psuedo scientists. High school physics too much for you?

My personal favorite is I had a argument with some one who said the sea level wouldn't raise if the ice caps melt.. He called me a idiot for ever thinking that, so I had to explain how displacement works (on how ice is above water meaning not taking up the volume for the water to raise level, not to mention basic chemistry) and he still didn't believe me.. Are these people just uneducated or something.. really..

CaptHawkeye

It's funny that he tried to tout anything from Fox News as reliable. If you're trying to look like an idiot, posting something from FOX is one hell of a way to do it.

I'm willing to bet that he's in their key demographic, i.e. people with IQs in double figures.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"][QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]It boggles my mind that anyone in the world could think Global Warming isn't happening or that humans aren't causing it. You have to be a lunatic. Seriously. nuclear_cookout

The fact that you think evolution is false shows that you really can't be listened to, sense you clearly do not read up with science..

I honestly could care less about trying to convince you.. Because the science community deems evolution as fact, it has happened.. They all agree upon that, what is being argued is the how and why of it.. If the worlds brightest minds under a system witht eh most scrutiny as possible can't convince you.. No one can.

It is also one of the most solid scientific foundations out there.. Most other fields would kill for such a theory that stable..

Keep in mind that if we do something to prevent global warming, such as switching to alternatives, the only real "downside" is that we would wean ourselves off of dependencies on some potentially dangerous groups and help the environment. If it isn't real and we do something, there are no major consequences. However, if it is real, and we do nothing, the results will be disastrous; large scale flooding, massive crop loss, untold ecological damage, wars will break out over disappearing land and resources, it would be a disaster.

Think about it, does it make seance to pretend a potentially very threatening problem doesn't exist? Would it work if we took up the same policy on cancer, ignoring doctors rather than scientists in the case of global warming, because you don't want to believe it exists?

Keep in mind that if we do something to prevent global warming, such as switching to alternatives, the only real "downside" is that we would wean ourselves off of dependencies on some potentially dangerous groups and help the environment. If it isn't real and we do something, there are no major consequences. However, if it is real, and we do nothing, the results will be disastrous; large scale flooding, massive crop loss, untold ecological damage, wars will break out over disappearing land and resources, it would be a disaster.

Think about it, does it make seance to pretend a potentially very threatening problem doesn't exist? Would it work if we took up the same policy on cancer, ignoring doctors rather than scientists in the case of global warming, because you don't want to believe it exists?

yoshi-lnex

Lets not forget, that if mankind really wasn't affecting the climate, it still would be a good thing.. Polution could very well lead to the collapse of the econ system when it comes to animals, which leads to our extinction.. You want to see something scary, go read abou the low down on honey bees dieing out.. The reason why thats so huge is they are our NUMBER ONE polinator..

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Water shortages? Glad I live in Manitoba... home to the largest fresh-water lakes in the world.Thechaninator

Ahem actually it is us in Michigan with all the fresh water. Funny thing is those silly people who made the dumb choice of living in deserts actually think they have the right to pipe our water to their locations! If they ever try anything of the sort I swear to God I will sabotage that pipe like no other.

...

He also believes aids can be cured by oregano oil. Forget the evolution thing. When he believes things like that you know he should be ignored entirely when it comes to his opinions on science.yoshi-lnex

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]He also believes aids can be cured by oregano oil. Forget the evolution thing. When he believes things like that you know he should be ignored entirely when it comes to his opinions on science.nuclear_cookout

Oh for christ sake, the website you just posted is privately owned. Of course they're going to find things that support their approach to herbal remedies. They're trying to market their product.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]He also believes aids can be cured by oregano oil. Forget the evolution thing. When he believes things like that you know he should be ignored entirely when it comes to his opinions on science.nuclear_cookout

LOL omg this is priceless.. This is the most hilarious thing I have seen in a very long time.. Yes Nuclear you solved the plague of the 20th century which the tens of thousands of our top minds of man kind couldn't do..

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]He also believes aids can be cured by oregano oil. Forget the evolution thing. When he believes things like that you know he should be ignored entirely when it comes to his opinions on science.nuclear_cookout

[QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"]

I happen to be one of those people who doesn't believe everything I'm told by the mainstream scientific community. That, coupled with lots of evidence, means I do not believe in manmade GW.

They call this a concensus?

Read the sunspots

Hey Al Gore, We Want a Refund!

Algore's Nobel Prize for Globaloney

Washington, D.C. Resident Finds 1922 Article Showing Early Signs of Climate Change

NASA Chief's Global Warming Remarks Called 'Naive'

Runaway Climate Captured?

Global Warming: Climate of Fear?

There is no Appreciable Climate Warming

The Truth About Greenland

Sun Blamed for Warming of Earth and Other Worlds

How Now Brown Cloud?

Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming 'Greatest Scam in History'

Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists

I'd have more, but some of the links I had saved in Favorites lead to nowhere now...hmm. Cover-up?

CaptHawkeye

Ah, I see. You're one of those wacko self proclaimed psuedo scientists. High school physics too much for you?

Exxon and co probably stripped their funding so those pages are down. You do know Exxon was proved to have spread misinformation, and that almost all scientists who disaaprove are discredited, uninformed, or being bribed

Exxon and co probably stripped their funding so those pages are down. You do know Exxon was proved to have spread misinformation, and that almost all scientists who disaaprove are discredited, uninformed, or being bribedyuna707

Corporate influence has such a stranglehold on society it's not even funny. Anyone else ever hear of the EV-1? Orthe cheap light bulb design with a lifespan longer than yours? But was ultimately pulled because it screwed over the concept of planned obsolescence? Yes ladies and gentlemen, trust the free market! It works for you! :roll:

I am sorry, but I am so sick of hearing all this doomsday BS. First it's "OMG the worlds gonna end in 2012 cause thats where the Mayan calender ends!" then there is BS such as "A giant asteroid could hit our earth at any time!" (there are specials on TV about this BS) and as far as I am concerned the "global warming will kill us all!" message is one in the same.

Could the Earth be warming? I suppose so.

Could humans be making it worse? Once again I suppose so.

Are we making it so bad that the world is gonna end? I don't think so.

I can't let go of the fact that Al Gore has SO much to gain from a huge eco-friendlymovement. His alarmist theory is the same thing as Bushes "terror threat" tactics and I can't believe people do not see right through this. Just like Bush he has even spewed falsities or unsubstantiated claims as facts and this was even proven through the England court and England apparently loves Gore seeing as they require kids to see the movie.

Regardless, I completely support alternative energy and preserving the environment in general. I hate oil companies (albeit I gaurantee you that the alternative countries will become just as corrupt) and I hate how much we pollute. The thing that annoys me is how people seem to forget that this is going to take TIME. They need to develope alternative energy cars to the point where they can keep up with the gas guzzlers. They also need to be able to be produced at a consumer friendly price. Hopefully that will happen within the next few years because I will likely need a new car by then.

As for overpopulation, that is the bigger worry for me. It isn't just that we are getting overpopulated, but we are getting overrun with idiots and that worries me. The media has dumbed down a good amount of my generation and I fear how few will actually end up intelligent in the end. It also worries me because we as a race seem to lack the balls to say there are such things as people not worth protecting/saving. People try saying capitol punishment is immoral. To those people I say sitting there and letting criminals have the chance to go out and repeat their crimes again is immoral. It is absolutely ridiculous that people suggest life-sentences while ignoring the fact that the average life sentence served is 5 years. The criminals also waste lots of valuable resources while in prison such as food and space that could be used to hold someone less dangerous. Personally though I think the whole system is screwed up but that is too long of a lecture for a global warming topic.

...I can't let go of the fact that Al Gore has SO much to gain from a huge eco-friendlymovement. His alarmist theory is the same thing as Bushes "terror threat" tactics and I can't believe people do not see right through this. Just like Bush he has even spewed falsities or unsubstantiated claims as facts and this was even proven through the England court and England apparently loves Gore seeing as they require kids to see the movie...

Thechaninator

I didn't realize this thread was about Al Gore's movie. When did that happen?

[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

...I can't let go of the fact that Al Gore has SO much to gain from a huge eco-friendlymovement. His alarmist theory is the same thing as Bushes "terror threat" tactics and I can't believe people do not see right through this. Just like Bush he has even spewed falsities or unsubstantiated claims as facts and this was even proven through the England court and England apparently loves Gore seeing as they require kids to see the movie...

SpaceMoose

I didn't realize this thread was about Al Gore's movie. When did that happen?

It happened when Al Gore became the main spreader of the alarmist GW message.

Edit: And it so happens that the Greenland caps melting was mentioned in the article and it was one of the falsities found by the England court.

I am living proof that oregano oil (among other herbals) can cure (I've never had AIDS before, though). nuclear_cookout

I had a cold once. I ate some peanut brittle; the cold was gone a few days later. Therefore, peanut brittle cures colds.

[QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"]

I am living proof that oregano oil (among other herbals) can cure (I've never had AIDS before, though). SpaceMoose

I had a cold once. I ate some peanut brittle; the cold was gone a few days later. Therefore, peanut brittle cures colds.

lol, I have my own theory that when sick 7-up helps calm my stomach. I actually have heard that some pops do have benefits of the such but have never bothered looking into it and have never seen any of it for myself.

lol, I have my own theory that when sick 7-up helps calm my stomach. I actually have heard that some pops do have benefits of the such but have never bothered looking into it and have never seen any of it for myself.

Thechaninator

I was being completely facetious though.

[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

lol, I have my own theory that when sick 7-up helps calm my stomach. I actually have heard that some pops do have benefits of the such but have never bothered looking into it and have never seen any of it for myself.

SpaceMoose

I was being completely facetious though.

I realize this. Tis why I lol'd.

I just mention my little thing but I should have mentioned that I never would push it as fact.

It happened when Al Gore became the main spreader of the alarmist GW message.

Edit: And it so happens that the Greenland caps melting was mentioned in the article and it was one of the falsities found by the England court.

Thechaninator

I text searched for "Greenland" in that article and this is the paragraph I got:

"We have already committed the world to sea level rise," said Pachuri. If the Greenland ice sheet melts, the scientists couldn't even predict by how many meters the seas will rise, drowning coastal cities.

AOL News

That does not say the Greenland ice sheet is already melting.

And global warming was a political issue long before Al Gore's movie. It's just been overshadowed by Iraq and all of the other nonsense of the Bush administration (in the U.S. at least).

[QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"]

I am living proof that oregano oil (among other herbals) can cure (I've never had AIDS before, though). SpaceMoose

I had a cold once. I ate some peanut brittle; the cold was gone a few days later. Therefore, peanut brittle cures colds.

I like the way people call other people stupid or ignorant for doubting. Good way to see things! And no, saying "you are denying something everyone knows" is not a valid counter argument. What everyone knows is not what is true.

Although most people believe in Santa, doesn't make it true. And NO, science is not exact. Science is only adjusting itself to empirical observations. One day something will not be correct, and science will change. And this will happen again, and again. So no one can say scientists are fully correct.

And don't try saying that I'm some kind of redneck, because i have my questions about global warming. You're trying to call me ignorant, being one yourself. If you think I'm some kind of polluter, or something like that, I'm happy to tell you you're wrong. I'm always separating garbage, keeping things green. I don't think I'm saving the planet. I'm just trying to give everyone a clean and prettier place to live.

And if you like scientists so much, why not hear everything they have to say? It's not the majority that matters. No one has 100% proof of anything. Saying that would be fallacious.

This is just like UFO's, or 9/11 CT's. If Media gave them a certain attention, they would see that there is enough proof to say that UFO's are real, or 9/11 was indeed an inside job. And people would believe it. But there would be still the chance, and proof, that UFO's don't exist, or that 9/11 was an outside job.

But what do i know, I'm no scientist. :)

...I'm sure that no matter what I post, whether scientifically legitimate or otherwise, it will not get you people to see past what you've been taught by the all-knowing never-wrong scientific community...

nuclear_cookout

So scientifically legitimate studies do not come from the scientific community. Got it.

One last thing: prove me wrong on the oregano. Prove to me, via your very own laboratory testing, that concentrated oregano oil (which naturally contains the disinfectant carvacrol) cures nothing. Prove to me that it doesn't destroy cancer or bird flu, or even viruses and bacteria. Instead of blasting me with vituperative diatribe, why don't you people disprove me? What if you did find out that it does cure? Would you then go to a medical scientist and present your findings? I know what they'd say: "Nonsense. Don't pursue this."nuclear_cookout

What the hell would a disinfectant have to do with cancer? That just proves you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Certain diets may help PREVENT cancer, but that is not the same thing as curing it. You are too funny, Mister Obssessed-with-weapons-dude.

Nobody here is going to waste their time DISproving every silly and arbitrary claim you make. Why don't you PROVE it cures those things instead?

I had bad allergies once. I underwent a health program and now my allergies are nearly nonexistent.

nuclear_cookout

And what health program would that be? And how do you know your allergies would not have gone away otherwise. You are one person. That is hardly a significant statistical sample.

Didn't scientists say allergies are permanent/incurable?

nuclear_cookout

I don't know. Did they?

I was also poisoned early this month from merely chewing half of a contaminated hazelnut (I've never been allergic to them), and that left some areas of the left side of my face partially paralyzed. I couldn't smile correctly or even blink properly. After taking herb-based vinpocetine (which increases blood flow to the brain and promotes the rebuilding of nerve connections), I have regained a lot of control.nuclear_cookout

Well, that's not oregano oil, so that's not even relevant to what we were talking about.

Hey, nuke, perhaps if you engaged your BRAIN from time to time, you might just realise that just because you don't like something doesn't mean that its wrong and that there's a massive conspiracy.Mr_Mohawk

It's really a shame this is your strategy for debates, i have seen you (occasionally) post some good arguments but more often then not you just take cheap shots and personally attack another users view. That isn't how intelligent people debate, trying to tear down someone else's view does not build up your own.

To the original topic, i think that a lot of the arguments against global warming are a little to conspiracy-theory for me, but i will agree that a lot of the stuff warning about global warming tries to play on fear to much. It is impossible for anyone to know what will happen in the future, biogeochemical cycles are effected by antropogenic sources, but it isn't clear what will happen or what the outcomes can be, people can theorize until they are blue in the face but only time will tell.

Didn't scientists say allergies are permanent/incurable? nuclear_cookout

I don't know anyone who says that. Children "growing out" of allergies is extremelly common.

Well, there's not much a point in even bothering with you guys. I'm sure that no matter what I post, whether scientifically legitimate or otherwise, it will not get you people to see past what you've been taught by the all-knowing never-wrong scientific community or ever-trustworthy "We are looking for a cure but haven't found it yet for some reason" Big Pharma.

One last thing: prove me wrong on the oregano. Prove to me, via your very own laboratory testing, that concentrated oregano oil (which naturally contains the disinfectant carvacrol) cures nothing. Prove to me that it doesn't destroy cancer or bird flu, or even viruses and bacteria. Instead of blasting me with vituperative diatribe, why don't you people disprove me? What if you did find out that it does cure? Would you then go to a medical scientist and present your findings? I know what they'd say: "Nonsense. Don't pursue this."nuclear_cookout

But I'm sure you and your oregano oil know far more than the entire medical community and it's decades of research by millions ofvery well educated individuals on viruses.

Like I said before though this and so many of your other posts display such incredible amounts of ignorance, I highly doubt you can comprehend this.

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/un-panel-offers-dire-warming-forecast/20071117124909990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

As early as 2020 scientists are saying cities across the world will suffer water shortages, 3 times as many floods, 250 million people in Africa will die cause of dengue fever and water shortages. By 2030 many coral reefs will dissapear and the colorful creatures that lived in them will go extinct. By 2040 the arctic sea is ice free, some cities go underwater, fierce hurricanes and extreme weathers will occur throughout the world. By 2050 the glaciers melt by 70 percent and over 100 animals face extinction. By 2070 many of the hydropower stations decrease as a result of water shortages which would mean 75 percent less electricity is produced. By 2080 4 billion people will experience water shortage and 800 million go hungry. By 2100 more than 5 million animals go extinct such as polar bears, penguins. Whats your opinion on this and what you think should be done?

AirBorneLove

Mars

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]

[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

...I can't let go of the fact that Al Gore has SO much to gain from a huge eco-friendlymovement. His alarmist theory is the same thing as Bushes "terror threat" tactics and I can't believe people do not see right through this. Just like Bush he has even spewed falsities or unsubstantiated claims as facts and this was even proven through the England court and England apparently loves Gore seeing as they require kids to see the movie...

Thechaninator

I didn't realize this thread was about Al Gore's movie. When did that happen?

It happened when Al Gore became the main spreader of the alarmist GW message.

Edit: And it so happens that the Greenland caps melting was mentioned in the article and it was one of the falsities found by the England court.

Absolute BS buddy, Global warming was alive and well far before his movie release.

[QUOTE="Mr_Mohawk"]Hey, nuke, perhaps if you engaged your BRAIN from time to time, you might just realise that just because you don't like something doesn't mean that its wrong and that there's a massive conspiracy.Roland1987

It's really a shame this is your strategy for debates, i have seen you (occasionally) post some good arguments but more often then not you just take cheap shots and personally attack another users view. That isn't how intelligent people debate, trying to tear down someone else's view does not build up your own.

To the original topic, i think that a lot of the arguments against global warming are a little to conspiracy-theory for me, but i will agree that a lot of the stuff warning about global warming tries to play on fear to much. It is impossible for anyone to know what will happen in the future, biogeochemical cycles are effected by antropogenic sources, but it isn't clear what will happen or what the outcomes can be, people can theorize until they are blue in the face but only time will tell.

I am sorry but you have to call this guy out, he thinks a herb can cure AIDS/HIV.. No one should need to make a counter example or argument for such a rediculous claim that isn't true..

This is like claiming that the earth is flat... DO YOU REALLY need a counter argument for that :roll:

[QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"]...I'm sure that no matter what I post, whether scientifically legitimate or otherwise, it will not get you people to see past what you've been taught by the all-knowing never-wrong scientific community...

SpaceMoose

So scientifically legitimate studies do not come from the scientific community. Got it.

[QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"]

One last thing: prove me wrong on the oregano. Prove to me, via your very own laboratory testing, that concentrated oregano oil (which naturally contains the disinfectant carvacrol) cures nothing. Prove to me that it doesn't destroy cancer or bird flu, or even viruses and bacteria. Instead of blasting me with vituperative diatribe, why don't you people disprove me? What if you did find out that it does cure? Would you then go to a medical scientist and present your findings? I know what they'd say: "Nonsense. Don't pursue this."SpaceMoose

What the hell would a disinfectant have to do with cancer? That just proves you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Certain diets may help PREVENT cancer, but that is not the same thing as curing it. You are too funny, Mister Obssessed-with-weapons-dude.

Nobody here is going to waste their time DISproving every silly and arbitrary claim you make. Why don't you PROVE it cures those things instead?

What the hell would a disinfectant have to do with cancer?SpaceMoose

[QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"]I had bad allergies once. I underwent a health program and now my allergies are nearly nonexistent.

SpaceMoose

And what health program would that be? And how do you know your allergies would not have gone away otherwise?

[QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"]

Didn't scientists say allergies are permanent/incurable?

SpaceMoose

I don't know. Did they?

[QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"] I was also poisoned early this month from merely chewing half of a contaminated hazelnut (I've never been allergic to them), and that left some areas of the left side of my face partially paralyzed. I couldn't smile correctly or even blink properly. After taking herb-based vinpocetine (which increases blood flow to the brain and promotes the rebuilding of nerve connections), I have regained a lot of control.SpaceMoose

Well, that's not oregano oil, so that's not even relevant to what we were talking about.

It's common knowledge that a virus cannot be killed by medication because there is no way to attack it chemically via known means (this means oregano oil won't work, or any other chemical that hasn't been derived from the virus itself). The only way to get rid of a virus or prevent it's future infection is to expose an individual to a dead or very weak colonies of the virus so that the host can develop immunity to it. However in the case of HIV, because the virus mutates at such a rapid rate, the body cannot develop an immunity fast enough to get rid of it.

But I'm sure you and your oregano oil know far more than the entire medical community and it's decades of research by millions of very well educated individuals on viruses.

Like I said before though this and so many of your other posts display such incredible amounts of ignorance, I highly doubt you can comprehend this.

yoshi-lnex

Absolute BS buddy, Global warming was alive and well far before his movie release.sSubZerOo

Kill humans, save polar bears.
I smell a new campaign slogan.

I meant that no matter how much evidence I post that is supported by certain scientists, you won't believe it because of what the majority of other scientists say.nuclear_cookout

You're right. As long as I'm not doing research on the subject myself, I am going to believe what the majority of scientists say, at least if it is an overwhelming majority. I'm going to believe mainstream scientific publications (for example, Scientific American) over "news" outlets that are known to be far right-wing and in some cases have even been caught acknowledging that they slant things to the right. Why should I selectively believe a minority of scientists (who probably aren't even all actual climate scientists) just to fit in with a particular world view?

It has already been proven. I want you to try and disprove it. My fascination with weapons has NOTHING to do with this, either. That was a needless personal attack.

nuclear_cookout

It has already been proven that there is a non-chemotherapy cure for cancer... Okay, why aren't you busy getting rich off of it instead of posting about it on here? :lol: And your apparent obsession with war clearly is tied to your rather...odd...political views.

Cancer IS an infection. Here is a link to information from the World Health Organization retired doctors on cancer, etc . Please do not reject it just because it was posted in an Invision site. Think of that place as a middleman.

nuclear_cookout

Well, folks. We have it finally. The official cure for cancer. Just remember you heard it here first. :roll:

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"][QUOTE="nuclear_cookout"]I had bad allergies once. I underwent a health program and now my allergies are nearly nonexistent.

nuclear_cookout

And what health program would that be? And how do you know your allergies would not have gone away otherwise?

You totally didn't answer my question. I didn't ask how you know it works. I made sure not to ask it that way; I asked how you know that they WOULD NOT HAVE GONE AWAY AT THAT TIME IF YOU WERE NOT ON THE PROGRAM, and the obvious answer is that you don't. You're not going to wrap your mind around that, however, so nevermind. You think personal anecdotes amount to scientific evidence. You basically admit that. It's like when some guy says, "Cigarettes don't kill people because I knew some guy who smoked a pack a day and lived to be 95." You're using the same exact kind of flawed logic.

Also, that link doesn't even mention allergies anyway...

Frequently. I am aware that children can"outgrow" certain allergies, but that doesn't mean they are incurable. Whether short term or long term, they are curable.

nuclear_cookout

I have a question: What is it that you were allergic to specifically? And if you can't answer that, you can't even know that you were "cured."

...I'm just trying to make a point that herbs aren't useless.

nuclear_cookout

Too bad that wasn't the topic being debated. Not by me anyway.

And, please, when you are making a long post, please answer different people seperately. It took me enough effort to keep all of these quotes within quotes from turning into a jumbled nightmare.