What's so great about joining the military after highschool?

1. It's something to do after highschool/before college that's different from most work

2. It helps serve the country

3. It helps pay for college

I certainly don't see anything wrong with it... :?

They pay for your education. And it helps our country.

I see this time and time again. Kids that graduated the previous year come in, and visit the school and they are in marine uniforms. They have joined the marines. What are the advantages of this? How does a drill sargent yelling at you 24/7 better than a normal 40 hour work week or college:?Raged_Soulja

Are you thinking about joining?

[QUOTE="Raged_Soulja"]I see this time and time again. Kids that graduated the previous year come in, and visit the school and they are in marine uniforms. They have joined the marines. What are the advantages of this? How does a drill sargent yelling at you 24/7 better than a normal 40 hour work week or college:?jfcundiff

Are you thinking about joining?

Collge for me.

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[QUOTE="Raged_Soulja"]I see this time and time again. Kids that graduated the previous year come in, and visit the school and they are in marine uniforms. They have joined the marines. What are the advantages of this? How does a drill sargent yelling at you 24/7 better than a normal 40 hour work week or college:?Raged_Soulja

Are you thinking about joining?

Collge for me.

Well that is good.

It will pay college.

It sucks though.

They give you money.Jandurin

i think it would be stupid to join now with this particluar warfreshgman

Just because you join now does not mean you will get shipped over to Iraq. Even the people who sign up know that they could go to Iraq. They know what they are getting into when they sign up. Wherever the country needs you to go, you go and serve.

[QUOTE="freshgman"]i think it would be stupid to join now with this particluar warjfcundiff

Just because you join now does not mean you will get shipped over to Iraq. Even the people who sign up know that they could go to Iraq. They know what they are getting into when they sign up. Wherever the country needs you to go, you go and serve.

Then I guess there is no point in joining now is there? You are serving all these people who don't give a crap about you and you get nothing out of it. If that is really why you would want to join. I don't want to serve my country if it lets people like Paris Hilton get more spotlight than the actual war.

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[QUOTE="freshgman"]i think it would be stupid to join now with this particluar warIlived

Just because you join now does not mean you will get shipped over to Iraq. Even the people who sign up know that they could go to Iraq. They know what they are getting into when they sign up. Wherever the country needs you to go, you go and serve.

Then I guess there is no point in joining now is there? You are serving all these people who don't give a crap about you and you get nothing out of it. If that is really why you would want to join. I don't want to serve my country if it lets people like Paris Hilton get more spotlight than the actual war.

"Today, four soldiers were killed in an RPG ambush outside Baghdad. And in more important news, the Beckems are moving to America and another celeb breakup."

Celebrity culture sucks. And its even more depressing when a report like that actualy happens on the news... People have just stopped caring.

But a career in the armed forces isn't that bad. My dad was a Royal Marine, and he said it was the best years of his life.

Whatever reasons kids go off to join the military, you can bet your ass that most of them aren't going for noble reasons.Ilived

First of all look at where the recruitment centers are located- mostly inner cities where the poorest live. Notice how enlistment rates increase as the salary and bonuses increase. I normally don't like Michael Moore, but the images of the soldiers they show in Fahrenheit 9/11 is closer to reality than the myth that most politicians spread- blasting heavy metal music in a tank as they mow down buildings. Then they smile at the camera and pose among the ruins.

[QUOTE="Ilived"]Whatever reasons kids go off to join the military, you can bet your ass that most of them aren't going for noble reasons.Jocubus

First of all look at where the recruitment centers are located- mostly inner cities where the poorest live. Notice how enlistment rates increase as the salary and bonuses increase. I normally don't like Michael Moore, but the images of the soldiers they show in Fahrenheit 9/11 is closer to reality than the myth that most politicians spread- blasting heavy metal music in a tank as they mow down buildings. Then they smile at the camera and pose among the ruins.

Yeah, I agree. I knew who it was wanted to be in the army when I went to school, and every one of them was an idiotic bully.

Some kids cannot afford college. Joining the military gives you benefits and will help with college. Plus you travel the world if lucky. And the drill instructors only yell at you during camp. Once your done with camp they will not be screaming at you 24/7. Plus you are serving and defending your country which is an honorable thing to do.jfcundiff

Plus you are serving and defending your country which is an honorable thing to do.jfcundiff

Ugh... I hate nationalism so much...

Yeah, I agree. I knew who it was wanted to be in the army when I went to school, and every one of them was an idiotic bully.

Funky_Llama

I was 18 living in Japan for two years and when I was 22 I got to visit two places in australia, two places in thailand, do charity work in east timor, help the special olympics in guam, visit the UAE and Bahrain (during a time of war unfortunately), go to Singapore.

Then I got out and had a good portion of college paid for me and it looks good on your resume having a degree in CIS and working in the field with 8 years experience.

I don't know of many college students that can claim the same thing.

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Yeah, I agree. I knew who it was wanted to be in the army when I went to school, and every one of them was an idiotic bully.

Jandurin

My long time friend became an alcoholic, but ever since he joined the army 2 years ago he has been doing great. Hasn't had a drink at least a year.

Some people might be thinking about being Firemen or Police Officers. There are two ways to do that, one of them is join the military.nickyb628

That's why I'm joining, I also can't afford the college I want to go to atm.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]Plus you are serving and defending your country which is an honorable thing to do.Funky_Llama

Ugh... I hate nationalism so much...

I'm thinking of joining the Air Force but I'm really conflicted about it. Bah, life is going by too fast. :(howlrunner13

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]Plus you are serving and defending your country which is an honorable thing to do.Dasacant

Ugh... I hate nationalism so much...

It can be honourable, but certainly is not per se. Was it honourable of German soldiers in WW2 to defend their country? Besides which, the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that it is honourable.

The same reason some one would want to go to college. I know a lot of people who have joined the army and come out with loads of qualifications.Big_Bad_Sad

Yes military service is a very good thing to have on your resume if its combined with some college schooling on the side.

It works for a lot of people.

Some people don't want to live as wage slaves or the broke-ass college studenst, so the military would be a good call for such people.

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]Plus you are serving and defending your country which is an honorable thing to do.Funky_Llama

Ugh... I hate nationalism so much...

It can be honourable, but certainly is not per se. Was it honourable of German soldiers in WW2 to defend their country? Besides which, the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that it is honourable.

It can be honourable, but certainly is not per se. Was it honourable of German soldiers in WW2 to defend their country?Funky_Llama

The majority of German soldiers weren't Nazi's and didn't know about the atrocities that were being carried out on the Jews. Most only knew that they were being deported. I wouldn't say they're cause was honorable, but to die for your country is honorable.

Besides which, the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that it is honourable.

Funky

Two things;

1.) The Burden of Proof is on YOU to prove him wrong, not the other way around. ;)

2.) Trying to demonstrate something like this on the internet is like trying to have an orgasm with your browser; it just doesn't work.

I'm doing ROTC in college because:

1. They pay for all of my education

2. I get a monthly stipend, which is the same I'd get if I had a college job

3. I want to become a better, more driven individual, and the Army can help you achieve this

4. It will help me become a leader in society (I actually want to do something with my life)

5. When I graduate from ROTC, I will join the Army Reserves, and will be a 2nd Lieutenant, meaning I will be leading a platoon.

6. It will give you a huge advantage over others for leadership and other job positions.

7. It's something in which I've always wanted to do

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]Plus you are serving and defending your country which is an honorable thing to do.Dasacant

Ugh... I hate nationalism so much...

It can be honourable, but certainly is not per se. Was it honourable of German soldiers in WW2 to defend their country? Besides which, the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that it is honourable.

It wasn't even their choice; they were conscripted in their millions to fight for one of the most evil men in history. They had to fight; nothing honourable there.

It wasn't even their choice; they were conscripted in their millions to fight for one of the most evil men in history. They had to fight; nothing honourable there.

Funky_Llama

You know, this is irrelavant, you're making a strawman out of his argument. The entire premises of his argument was that it was honourable to fight for your country, I think it's plain obvious that he meant that if it was of your own free-will. :roll:

It wasn't even their choice; they were conscripted in their millions to fight for one of the most evil men in history. They had to fight; nothing honourable there.

Funky_Llama

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It can be honourable, but certainly is not per se. Was it honourable of German soldiers in WW2 to defend their country?VoodooGamer

The majority of German soldiers weren't Nazi's and didn't know about the atrocities that were being carried out on the Jews. Most only knew that they were being deported. I wouldn't say they're cause was honorable, but to die for your country is honorable.

Besides which, the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that it is honourable.

Funky

Two things;

1.) The Burden of Proof is on YOU to prove him wrong, not the other way around. ;)

2.) Trying to demonstrate something like this on the internet is like trying to have an orgasm with your browser; it just doesn't work.

In the words of Patton.. No poor bastard won a war by dying for his country, he won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country :P

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It can be honourable, but certainly is not per se. Was it honourable of German soldiers in WW2 to defend their country?sSubZerOo

The majority of German soldiers weren't Nazi's and didn't know about the atrocities that were being carried out on the Jews. Most only knew that they were being deported. I wouldn't say they're cause was honorable, but to die for your country is honorable.

Besides which, the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that it is honourable.

Funky

Two things;

1.) The Burden of Proof is on YOU to prove him wrong, not the other way around. ;)

2.) Trying to demonstrate something like this on the internet is like trying to have an orgasm with your browser; it just doesn't work.

In the words of Patton.. No poor bastard won a war by dying for his country, he won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country :P

Or in other words, live long enough to die another day. :lol: