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#51 FallofAthens
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Music actually has a spiritual meaning. This is why every culture and religion uses it.harashawn

Most of the music I listen to is mainly are for emotional reasons or spiritual. I'll admit most of what I listen to would be considered Christian music, usually not the preachy sort.

I doubt all American Reject is emo... at least they never came off as so. Nevertheless I've never liked that term, anyway.

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[QUOTE="harashawn"]Music actually has a spiritual meaning. This is why every culture and religion uses it.FallofAthens

Most of the music I listen to is mainly are for emotional reasons or spiritual. I'll admit most of what I listen to would be considered Christian music, usually not the preachy sort.

I doubt all American Reject is emo... at least they never came off as so. Nevertheless I've never liked that term, anyway.

Do you like Skillit? Theyre Christian Rock and I freaking LOVE them :lol:

Yeah, I use the word to refer to music because thats all it is but now people call other people emo and it drives me insane :lol:

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#53 FallofAthens
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[QUOTE="FallofAthens"]

[QUOTE="harashawn"]Music actually has a spiritual meaning. This is why every culture and religion uses it.Matt-4542

Most of the music I listen to is mainly are for emotional reasons or spiritual. I'll admit most of what I listen to would be considered Christian music, usually not the preachy sort.

I doubt all American Reject is emo... at least they never came off as so. Nevertheless I've never liked that term, anyway.

Do you like Skillit? Theyre Christian Rock and I freaking LOVE them :lol:

Yeah, I use the word to refer to music because thats all it is but now people call other people emo and it drives me insane :lol:

Skillet is really good, but I like bands such as I lay Dying and Dead Poetic better. :) But yeah, they are one of my favorite rock bands.

I know what you mean. It irks me as well; that and when people refer to something as gay

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#54 Matt-4542
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As I Lay Dying is Christian? I never knew that :lol: Cant say I was too impressed with Dead Poetic though.

I really never minded when people refer to anything as gay :lol:

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[QUOTE="FallofAthens"]

[QUOTE="harashawn"]Music actually has a spiritual meaning. This is why every culture and religion uses it.Matt-4542

Most of the music I listen to is mainly are for emotional reasons or spiritual. I'll admit most of what I listen to would be considered Christian music, usually not the preachy sort.

I doubt all American Reject is emo... at least they never came off as so. Nevertheless I've never liked that term, anyway.

Do you like Skillit? Theyre Christian Rock and I freaking LOVE them :lol:

Yeah, I use the word to refer to music because thats all it is but now people call other people emo and it drives me insane :lol:

Do you Christian METAL? I know it hard to beileve but bands like Underoath are considered Christian metal.
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#56 FallofAthens
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[QUOTE="Matt-4542"][QUOTE="FallofAthens"]

[QUOTE="harashawn"]Music actually has a spiritual meaning. This is why every culture and religion uses it.Dallas_Cowboys9

Most of the music I listen to is mainly are for emotional reasons or spiritual. I'll admit most of what I listen to would be considered Christian music, usually not the preachy sort.

I doubt all American Reject is emo... at least they never came off as so. Nevertheless I've never liked that term, anyway.

Do you like Skillit? Theyre Christian Rock and I freaking LOVE them :lol:

Yeah, I use the word to refer to music because thats all it is but now people call other people emo and it drives me insane :lol:

Do you Christian METAL? I know it hard to beileve but bands like Underoath are considered Christian metal.

Metal is my favorite genre. It don't have to be Christian but most of the metal outside of it just conflict to much with what I believe/can tolerate. So pretty much most of what I listen to falls under Christian music. The only exceptions coming from off the top of my head would be: Chevelle, Nightwish and System of the Down.

Yeah, believe it or not As I Lay Dying is Christian. :P And as he said, Underoath is christian is well and Flyleaf share their faith in their music as well.

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Just because you dont like a particular style, doesnt mean you should hate it just because it has something certain in it. For instance, I understand alot of people hate Screamo (Although I love it) and when I ask the reason, they just say "Because its screaming" or something like that. While I can accept it, thats like saying I hate country just because its not heavy.

Music should be listened to for what it does, evoking emotions throughout your mind.

Matt-4542

I hate most bands that call themselves screamo, death metal, and that side of things mostly because it doesn't evoke any particular emotions for me. I'm too busy having a splitting headache because of the noise to feel anything meaningful while listening to it. I'm not in the boat of those who think that it should not exist, but it always confuses the heck out of me how anyone could willingly subject themselves to that.

Anyway, I do agree with the overall point being made, though. I've always taken music very seriously and tend to be fairly selective about what I listen to, as the only songs that I really love are those that make me feel something profound while listening to them. It doesn't matter what the song is beyond that, though; I've got songs on my playlist from all over. I don't really care much about genre; I always find it kinda weird the people who argue on and on about whether band X is in genre Y, as if it somehow changes the way their music sounds.

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#58 Matt-4542
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[QUOTE="Dallas_Cowboys9"][QUOTE="Matt-4542"][QUOTE="FallofAthens"]

[QUOTE="harashawn"]Music actually has a spiritual meaning. This is why every culture and religion uses it.FallofAthens

Most of the music I listen to is mainly are for emotional reasons or spiritual. I'll admit most of what I listen to would be considered Christian music, usually not the preachy sort.

I doubt all American Reject is emo... at least they never came off as so. Nevertheless I've never liked that term, anyway.

Do you like Skillit? Theyre Christian Rock and I freaking LOVE them :lol:

Yeah, I use the word to refer to music because thats all it is but now people call other people emo and it drives me insane :lol:

Do you Christian METAL? I know it hard to beileve but bands like Underoath are considered Christian metal.

Metal is my favorite genre. It don't have to be Christian but most of the metal outside of it just conflict to much with what I believe/can tolerate. So pretty much most of what I listen to falls under Christian music. The only exceptions coming from off the top of my head would be: Chevelle, Nightwish and System of the Down.

Yeah, believe it or not As I Lay Dying is Christian. :P And as he said, Underoath is christian is well and Flyleaf share their faith in their music as well.

I love UnderOath, I thought Aaron was much better than Chamberlain though. Theyre still good x) I just picked up Lost In The Sounds of Seperation last week xP
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[QUOTE="Matt-4542"][QUOTE="Piesics"][QUOTE="Matt-4542"]

And so I ask, why bother listening to music if it doesnt evoke emotion, regardless of genre?

Genetic_Code



I don't listen to anything unless it evokes consterantion or despondancy.

Damn, making me get out a dictionary...

You don't have to, because there is no such thing as "consterantion" or "despondancy". Perhaps the proper terms the user is looking for are consternation and despondency.

Heh, I was hoping someone would pick up on that.

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#60 FallofAthens
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[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]

Just because you dont like a particular style, doesnt mean you should hate it just because it has something certain in it. For instance, I understand alot of people hate Screamo (Although I love it) and when I ask the reason, they just say "Because its screaming" or something like that. While I can accept it, thats like saying I hate country just because its not heavy.

Music should be listened to for what it does, evoking emotions throughout your mind.

GabuEx

I hate most bands that call themselves screamo, death metal, and that side of things mostly because it doesn't evoke any particular emotions for me. I'm too busy having a splitting headache because of the noise to feel anything meaningful while listening to it. I'm not in the boat of those who think that it should not exist, but it always confuses the heck out of me how anyone could willingly subject themselves to that.

Anyway, I do agree with the overall point being made, though. I've always taken music very seriously and tend to be fairly selective about what I listen to, as the only songs that I really love are those that make me feel something profound while listening to them. It doesn't matter what the song is beyond that, though; I've got songs on my playlist from all over. I don't really care much about genre; I always find it kinda weird the people who argue on and on about whether band X is in genre Y, as if it somehow changes the way their music sounds.

I agree, as long as I like the band/artist/group, I could care less what genre they are. My play lists tend to switch around a lot between a mixture of Celtic, Blues, Metal, Hip-hop, J-pop, Arabic, Asian, little bit of country, Rock, Praice and Worship and Heavy Metal. I may listen to one genre more than another but I love them all the same. I judge the music by the sound, if it invokes emotion within me and lyrical instead of labels. And it hasn't failed me yet.

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#61 FallofAthens
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[QUOTE="FallofAthens"][QUOTE="Dallas_Cowboys9"][QUOTE="Matt-4542"][QUOTE="FallofAthens"]

[QUOTE="harashawn"]Music actually has a spiritual meaning. This is why every culture and religion uses it.Matt-4542

Most of the music I listen to is mainly are for emotional reasons or spiritual. I'll admit most of what I listen to would be considered Christian music, usually not the preachy sort.

I doubt all American Reject is emo... at least they never came off as so. Nevertheless I've never liked that term, anyway.

Do you like Skillit? Theyre Christian Rock and I freaking LOVE them :lol:

Yeah, I use the word to refer to music because thats all it is but now people call other people emo and it drives me insane :lol:

Do you Christian METAL? I know it hard to beileve but bands like Underoath are considered Christian metal.

Metal is my favorite genre. It don't have to be Christian but most of the metal outside of it just conflict to much with what I believe/can tolerate. So pretty much most of what I listen to falls under Christian music. The only exceptions coming from off the top of my head would be: Chevelle, Nightwish and System of the Down.

Yeah, believe it or not As I Lay Dying is Christian. :P And as he said, Underoath is christian is well and Flyleaf share their faith in their music as well.

I love UnderOath, I thought Aaron was much better than Chamberlain though. Theyre still good x) I just picked up Lost In The Sounds of Seperation last week xP

I don't know why but I never gave UnderOath a decent try, (I should, I know) ever since I listened to one song and didn't like the sound I sort of just avoided them. Think I may need to give them another try. i was like that with As I Lay Dying, I didn't really like their older stuff but their newer album was just pure brilliance in my opinion.

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Hating is an emotion and I hate screamo.
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[QUOTE="Dallas_Cowboys9"]

[QUOTE="Matt-4542"][QUOTE="Piesics"][QUOTE="Matt-4542"]

And so I ask, why bother listening to music if it doesnt evoke emotion, regardless of genre?

sammyjenkis898



I don't listen to anything unless it evokes consterantion or despondancy.

Damn, making me get out a dictionary...

Don't hurt yourself while you read.

Your question: that what emo bands are for ie: 30 sec to Mars and All American Rejects tons of emotion right there

30 Seconds to Mars and The All Americna Rejects aren't emo..

:|

Actually,they both can be labeled as emo.
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no, those are absolute garabge. screamo is garbage. country is garbage (my personal opinion, don't take it as fact)

if you want music that evokes emotion, there's only classical. nothing else even comes close.

try rachmaninoff's second piano concerto.(preferably performed by van cliburn)

modern genres such as rock or rap or country have no depth whatsoever. their purposes are to provide cheap thrills, merely because people have no attention span to listen to real developing emotional music.

not to say there aren't exceptions. occasionally you get your pink floyds, but most of modern music is only good for a cheap thrill.

isn't there a reason that average "song" length has gone down to about 4 minutes these days?

EDIT: don't take me out of context. it's not "wrong" to like cheap thrills. if you don't like classical music, it's understandable. i don't listen to it much anymore simply because it takes so much time to listen to.

but if you don't like classical music, and you want emotion in your music, you're looking in the wrong place. dashboard confessional is not emotion. beethoven's 9th is emotion.

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no, those are absolute garabge. screamo is garbage. country is garbage (my personal opinion, don't take it as fact)

if you want music that evokes emotion, there's only classical. nothing else even comes close.

try rachmaninoff's second piano concerto.(preferably performed by van cliburn)

modern genres such as rock or rap or country have no depth whatsoever. their purposes are to provide cheap thrills, merely because people have no attention span to listen to real developing emotional music.

not to say there aren't exceptions. occasionally you get your pink floyds, but most of modern music is only good for a cheap thrill.

isn't there a reason that average "song" length has gone down to about 4 minutes these days?

EDIT: don't take me out of context. it's not "wrong" to like cheap thrills. if you don't like classical music, it's understandable. i don't listen to it much anymore simply because it takes so much time to listen to.

but if you don't like classical music, and you want emotion in your music, you're looking in the wrong place. dashboard confessional is not emotion. beethoven's 9th is emotion.

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What about Godspeed You! Black Emperor? For entertainment i guess. And its the occupation of many, many people.
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Art, emotion etc.
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no, those are absolute garabge. screamo is garbage. country is garbage (my personal opinion, don't take it as fact)

if you want music that evokes emotion, there's only classical. nothing else even comes close.

try rachmaninoff's second piano concerto.(preferably performed by van cliburn)

modern genres such as rock or rap or country have no depth whatsoever. their purposes are to provide cheap thrills, merely because people have no attention span to listen to real developing emotional music.

not to say there aren't exceptions. occasionally you get your pink floyds, but most of modern music is only good for a cheap thrill.

isn't there a reason that average "song" length has gone down to about 4 minutes these days?

EDIT: don't take me out of context. it's not "wrong" to like cheap thrills. if you don't like classical music, it's understandable. i don't listen to it much anymore simply because it takes so much time to listen to.

but if you don't like classical music, and you want emotion in your music, you're looking in the wrong place. dashboard confessional is not emotion. beethoven's 9th is emotion.

mistervengeance

You know this probably happened all through history. new music comes along, people say it has no emotion, no depth, hate it and stick with the old. Classical music has been around for quite awhile, but before that what do you think they listened to before-hand?

In this day in age their are many ways to express one self; it is easy to find what is your rythm. You show me some kind of proof that everyone who listens to classical music 'feels emotion' then I'll agree with you. But we all don't and I'm sticking with that. Don't get me wrong, I do listen to classical music, I listen to all kinds of music and I feel the emotion and passion in all these genres, albeit some more than others, but it is my personal tastes that affect and create my playlist. I know myself better than anyone and though you may think I'm looking in the wrong place, I'm not, you just think I am because it doesn't suit your own personal quality.

As for the garbage part at the beginning of your statement: "One mans trash is another mans treasure." :)

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All music evokes some sort of emotion.....if it didn't then no one would listen to it and it wouldn't be enjoyable.
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What's the point of anything?Bloodbath_87

You just blew my mind

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no, those are absolute garabge. screamo is garbage. country is garbage (my personal opinion, don't take it as fact)

if you want music that evokes emotion, there's only classical. nothing else even comes close.

try rachmaninoff's second piano concerto.(preferably performed by van cliburn)

modern genres such as rock or rap or country have no depth whatsoever. their purposes are to provide cheap thrills, merely because people have no attention span to listen to real developing emotional music.

not to say there aren't exceptions. occasionally you get your pink floyds, but most of modern music is only good for a cheap thrill.

isn't there a reason that average "song" length has gone down to about 4 minutes these days?

EDIT: don't take me out of context. it's not "wrong" to like cheap thrills. if you don't like classical music, it's understandable. i don't listen to it much anymore simply because it takes so much time to listen to.

but if you don't like classical music, and you want emotion in your music, you're looking in the wrong place. dashboard confessional is not emotion. beethoven's 9th is emotion.

mistervengeance

good sir there is alot of emotion in todays music it just not in the mainstrain really, you have to delve deep but you'll find it

example everything you ever wanted to know about silence by Glassjaw is extremely emotional and passionate

a fairly good deal of the music I listen to is emotional. but lets not forget people are different and can't feel the same emotions from music even if there is undeniable soul in it

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helps pASS time

brings people together

makes people laugh or feel good