Whats with the history channel not showing history.

I ask myself that question very frequently, and I always find no answer.

There are still some great shows, like The Universe and some aren't so bad (I even think the ones about conspiracy theories are decent) but I agree shows like ice truckers should be completely removed, I can't believe someone would actually want to see that

Its still got some stuff from time to time thats pretty interesting

Yeah I miss the old history channel too. The same thing happened to the Travel channel which only seems to show the World poker tour these days.

I'll agree with everyone on how its not about history anymore (or at least not as much). But some shows like Modern Marvels are still enjoyable to a point. Nat Geo kinda took over the history channel for me. I don't get History International. :(

History Channel is terrible now. Every time I turn it on there's something about aliens, conspiracies, ghosts, 2012/end of the world, or cryptozoology crap. It's basically become the Sci-fi channel of "history." I miss the old History channel, when I actually watched TV. TV is so terrible now I waste no time in even watching anything on it. I am wondering if even Modern Marvels is still shown.

It's kinda like MTV not showing music anymore and soon Cartoon Network won't show cartoons anymore! This is the beginning of the end!Yagr_Zero

It's kinda like MTV not showing music anymore and soon Cartoon Network won't show cartoons anymore! This is the beginning of the end!Yagr_Zero

[QUOTE="Yagr_Zero"]It's kinda like MTV not showing music anymore and soon Cartoon Network won't show cartoons anymore! This is the beginning of the end!hedden93

You can thank this wench for the non-history related onslaught of Iceroad Truckers, Ax Men, UFO Hunters, Monsterquest, Nostradamus Effect etc. etc.

Prior to becoming the head honcho of History Channel in 2007, Nancy Dubuc (no, that is NOT a man wearing a dress in that picture, amazingly enough) was behind the ruining of Discovery Channel with Deadliest Catch and the like. She has a habit of using 'reality' shows to get ratings, and History Channel is her biggest load yet.

I still don't remember this mythical time when the history channel was truly about history. Unless your idea of the span of human history is basically 1930's-mid 1940's.

TV gets worse with each year. At this point to get anything good you have to get HBO, and Shotime channels.Fox-Call

Which is funny because there isn't a show on either of those channels that I'd want to watch.

[QUOTE="Fox-Call"]TV gets worse with each year. At this point to get anything good you have to get HBO, and Shotime channels.Pixel-Pirate

Which is funny because there isn't a show on either of those channels that I'd want to watch.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Fox-Call"]TV gets worse with each year. At this point to get anything good you have to get HBO, and Shotime channels.Warship_19

Which is funny because there isn't a show on either of those channels that I'd want to watch.

I still don't remember this mythical time when the history channel was truly about history. Unless your idea of the span of human history is basically 1930's-mid 1940's.

Pixel-Pirate

[QUOTE="Warship_19"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Which is funny because there isn't a show on either of those channels that I'd want to watch.

Verge_6

No. Saying "Nothing ever produced on TV interests me" is saying that. Saying none of the current original programming on a channel interests me is quite valid. For instance. Nothing on the following channels interest me.

WE

Lifetime

TrueTV

Telemundo

ESPN

Animal Planet

HBO

Showtime

Foxnews

HLN

Or is this just a case of "Someone finds shows I like to be bad/boring? Varily unto thee I say NEIGH!"

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I still don't remember this mythical time when the history channel was truly about history. Unless your idea of the span of human history is basically 1930's-mid 1940's.

Verge_6

How is it contrary...? That word....I do not think it means what you think it means.

I've never watched deadliest roads or ice road truckers so I cannot say. I will say that I've learned quite alot from Pawn stars and American Pickers.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Warship_19"] Boardwalk empire, Weeds, Dexter, Trublood. etc. None of those interest you?Pixel-Pirate

No. Saying "Nothing ever produced on TV interests me" is saying that. Saying none of the current original programming on a channel interests me is quite valid. For instance. Nothing on the following channels interest me.

WE

Lifetime

TrueTV

Telemundo

ESPN

Animal Planet

HBO

Showtime

Foxnews

HLN

Or is this just a case of "Someone finds shows I like to be bad/boring? Varily unto thee I say NEIGH!"

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I still don't remember this mythical time when the history channel was truly about history. Unless your idea of the span of human history is basically 1930's-mid 1940's.

Pixel-Pirate

How is it contrary...? That word....I do not think it means what you think it means.

I've never watched deadliest roads or ice road truckers so I cannot say. I will say that I've learned quite alot from Pawn stars and American Pickers.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] Saying that nothing on HBO and/or Showtime interests you is like saying you don't read books because 'none of them interest you'. That's such a broad sweep that it's hardly worth acknowledging. Verge_6

No. Saying "Nothing ever produced on TV interests me" is saying that. Saying none of the current original programming on a channel interests me is quite valid. For instance. Nothing on the following channels interest me.

WE

Lifetime

TrueTV

Telemundo

ESPN

Animal Planet

HBO

Showtime

Foxnews

HLN

Or is this just a case of "Someone finds shows I like to be bad/boring? Varily unto thee I say NEIGH!"

I'm not a part of some group, so no. Unless one considers society a group.

I simply have different tastes than you. I'm unsure why that is shocking/out of line to you. I can tell you my grandmother doesn't care for a single show on cartoon network. That does not make her opinion invalid.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] There was alot of WWII back in the day, but to ignore the scores of other legitimate history that was aired is just being contrary and illogical. And even then, WWII is at least history. Watching redneck truck drivers drive across lakes isn't.Verge_6

How is it contrary...? That word....I do not think it means what you think it means.

I've never watched deadliest roads or ice road truckers so I cannot say. I will say that I've learned quite alot from Pawn stars and American Pickers.

Doesn't to me. Stubbornly opposed to what? There was very very little non-WW2 programming back in the day. There is a reason the H in "History channel" got joked about as "Hitler".

[QUOTE="Upparoom"]

I gave up on the History Channel once they started showing programs about swamp bigfoot.

Necrifer

Bigfoot is part of history. He aided Abraham Lincolnin his struggle. He went missing after that. Lincoln sent out messengers to find him but he was nowhere to be found. Even today,museumsare still searching for his corpse.

I knew my 7th grade teacher always lied to me about the Civil War.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

No. Saying "Nothing ever produced on TV interests me" is saying that. Saying none of the current original programming on a channel interests me is quite valid. For instance. Nothing on the following channels interest me.

WE

Lifetime

TrueTV

Telemundo

ESPN

Animal Planet

HBO

Showtime

Foxnews

HLN

Or is this just a case of "Someone finds shows I like to be bad/boring? Varily unto thee I say NEIGH!"

Pixel-Pirate

I'm not a part of some group, so no. Unless one considers society a group.

I simply have different tastes than you. I'm unsure why that is shocking/out of line to you. I can tell you my grandmother doesn't care for a single show on cartoon network. That does not make her opinion invalid.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] So, you're just contrarian? Gotcha. Verge_6

I'm not a part of some group, so no. Unless one considers society a group.

I simply have different tastes than you. I'm unsure why that is shocking/out of line to you. I can tell you my grandmother doesn't care for a single show on cartoon network. That does not make her opinion invalid.

So I cannot say something does not interest me unless I have seen it?

Yeah...that....that doesn't make sense, verge. If I said I did not care for X show you would have a point. Or if I said "all programming on showtime is bad", you'd have a point. But I said they don't interest me, which is subjective and simply means none of those shows look like something I'd want to watch.

Can you name some of these hundreds of shows? Regular shows only, please state time they originally broadcasted and number of episodes, please.

I can name one regular show back during the WW2 era of their programming and I used to watch quite often back then. Histories mysteries. I cannot remember a single other show.

Which to me says either A. There weren't many B. They were forgettable C. They weren't shown often.

Also I don't believe I called out anyone. You are imagining conflict where there is none. You're the one who insisted my opinion is invalid because I don't find what you like to be interesting. Sorry, thems the breaks.

PBS should be your documentary source. The History Channel is more like The Conspiracy Channel - really sad.

entropyecho

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I'm not a part of some group, so no. Unless one considers society a group.

I simply have different tastes than you. I'm unsure why that is shocking/out of line to you. I can tell you my grandmother doesn't care for a single show on cartoon network. That does not make her opinion invalid.

Pixel-Pirate

So I cannot say something does not interest me unless I have seen it?

Yeah...that....that doesn't make sense, verge. If I said I did not care for X show you would have a point. Or if I said "all programming on showtime is bad", you'd have a point. But I said they don't interest me, which is subjective and simply means none of those shows look like something I'd want to watch.

Can you name some of these hundreds of shows? Regular shows only, please state time they originally broadcasted and number of episodes, please.

I can name one regular show back during the WW2 era of their programming and I used to watch quite often back then. Histories mysteries. I cannot remember a single other show.

Which to me says either A. There weren't many B. They were forgettable C. They weren't shown often.

Also I don't believe I called out anyone. You are imagining conflict where there is none. You're the one who insisted my opinion is invalid because I don't find what you like to be interesting. Sorry, thems the breaks.

You can say it, just don't be surprised if said statements hold little, if any, weight with anyone.

The above is magnified further when, again, some of the channels that don't have anything that interest you are renowned for diversity

I can't be arsed to correct your own misconceptions, and will leave that up to you. It's your issue to fix, not mine. :) (BTW, a 'show' is not always a series)

I think you might have some issues with memory, if that's the case.

You called foul on the claims that HC used to be about history because, in your eyes, it aired NOTHING but WWII-related shows prior to Dubuc taking over, going so far as to call it imaginary. If that's not calling out, I don't know what it. Thems IS the breaks, indeed. :)

I thought the same thing. The programs belong on the Discovery Channel. I mean, sure they're entertaining but I expect shows that actually have extensive history on subjects. Not "by the way this road has a history of fatal crashes, now let's watch people drive on it".

I used to love the history channel, always had great shows but I feel its gone way downhill with them barely showing anything relevant anymore. I really don't care about Ice road truckers or Ax Men. I want to learn about the past, not see whats happening in the present.

Warship_19

There are still some great shows, like The Universe and some aren't so bad (I even think the ones about conspiracy theories are decent) but I agree shows like ice truckers should be completely removed, I can't believe someone would actually want to see that

hyrueprince11

Why do you think James Lee pulled what he did on the Discovery channel? He was sick of crap off-topic shows just the same.

There should be a History OT channel, and then the real History channel devoted to history documentaries.

The only show on there now that I like is "Pawn Stars".

BUT DAMMIT I WANT TO LEARN ABOUT WWII AND THE NAPOLEONIC ERA. :P

There should be a History OT channel, and then the real History channel devoted to history documentaries.Arsephixiation

The only show on there now that I like is "Pawn Stars".

BUT DAMMIT I WANT TO LEARN ABOUT WWII AND THE NAPOLEONIC ERA. :P

GHlegend77

Ah yes, the Bagel. There have been many dissertations/theses written on it.

EDIT. Damn you!. So now it is the Napoleonic era?!

[QUOTE="GHlegend77"]

The only show on there now that I like is "Pawn Stars".

BUT DAMMIT I WANT TO LEARN ABOUT WWII AND THE NAPOLEONIC ERA. :P

Arsephixiation

Ah yes, the Bagel. There have been many dissertations/theses written on it.

[QUOTE="Arsephixiation"]

[QUOTE="GHlegend77"]

The only show on there now that I like is "Pawn Stars".

BUT DAMMIT I WANT TO LEARN ABOUT WWII AND THE NAPOLEONIC ERA. :P

GHlegend77

Ah yes, the Bagel. There have been many dissertations/theses written on it.

Read above...sell-out...

[QUOTE="GHlegend77"][QUOTE="Arsephixiation"]

Ah yes, the Bagel. There have been many dissertations/theses written on it.

Arsephixiation

Read above...sell-out...

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] So far, you're discounting hundreds of history shows that were NOT WWII related that once aired regularly on the older History Channel, that the scores of content offered by a dozen channels (several renowned for their diversity) don't interest you when it's literally impossible to catch everything they produce, and then call out the people that lament the fact that the HC isn't about history anymore due to shows you haven't even seen. Again, contrary.Verge_6

So I cannot say something does not interest me unless I have seen it?

Yeah...that....that doesn't make sense, verge. If I said I did not care for X show you would have a point. Or if I said "all programming on showtime is bad", you'd have a point. But I said they don't interest me, which is subjective and simply means none of those shows look like something I'd want to watch.

Can you name some of these hundreds of shows? Regular shows only, please state time they originally broadcasted and number of episodes, please.

I can name one regular show back during the WW2 era of their programming and I used to watch quite often back then. Histories mysteries. I cannot remember a single other show.

Which to me says either A. There weren't many B. They were forgettable C. They weren't shown often.

Also I don't believe I called out anyone. You are imagining conflict where there is none. You're the one who insisted my opinion is invalid because I don't find what you like to be interesting. Sorry, thems the breaks.

You can say it, just don't be surprised if said statements hold little, if any, weight with anyone.

The above is magnified further when, again, some of the channels that don't have anything that interest you are renowned for diversity

I can't be arsed to correct your own misconceptions, and will leave that up to you. It's your issue to fix, not mine. :) (BTW, a 'show' is not always a series)

I think you might have some issues with memory, if that's the case.

You called foul on the claims that HC used to be about history because, in your eyes, it aired NOTHING but WWII-related shows prior to Dubuc taking over, going so far as to call it imaginary. If that's not calling out, I don't know what it. Thems IS the breaks, indeed. :)

Burden of proof=you.

Again: Why is the idea of someone not interested in the shows you like so utterly alien to you?

I also wouldn't call WE, True TV, or Lifetime "diverse".

[QUOTE="Arsephixiation"]

[QUOTE="GHlegend77"] Indeed. Also, I edited my post to include something less... idiotic. :PGHlegend77

Read above...sell-out...

Poopy Face :( Snarf8)

Ice Road Truckers, Axe Men, and American Pickers need to go. I'm sure there are a few more that need to go also, but I can't think of them right now.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

So I cannot say something does not interest me unless I have seen it?

Yeah...that....that doesn't make sense, verge. If I said I did not care for X show you would have a point. Or if I said "all programming on showtime is bad", you'd have a point. But I said they don't interest me, which is subjective and simply means none of those shows look like something I'd want to watch.

Can you name some of these hundreds of shows? Regular shows only, please state time they originally broadcasted and number of episodes, please.

I can name one regular show back during the WW2 era of their programming and I used to watch quite often back then. Histories mysteries. I cannot remember a single other show.

Which to me says either A. There weren't many B. They were forgettable C. They weren't shown often.

Also I don't believe I called out anyone. You are imagining conflict where there is none. You're the one who insisted my opinion is invalid because I don't find what you like to be interesting. Sorry, thems the breaks.

Pixel-Pirate

You can say it, just don't be surprised if said statements hold little, if any, weight with anyone.

The above is magnified further when, again, some of the channels that don't have anything that interest you are renowned for diversity

I can't be arsed to correct your own misconceptions, and will leave that up to you. It's your issue to fix, not mine. :) (BTW, a 'show' is not always a series)

I think you might have some issues with memory, if that's the case.

You called foul on the claims that HC used to be about history because, in your eyes, it aired NOTHING but WWII-related shows prior to Dubuc taking over, going so far as to call it imaginary. If that's not calling out, I don't know what it. Thems IS the breaks, indeed. :)

Burden of proof=you.

Again: Why is the idea of someone not interested in the shows you like so utterly alien to you?

I also wouldn't call WE, True TV, or Lifetime "diverse".

Pretty sure you made the original claim that needed backing, sport. ;)

It's not alien to me at all. I'm just amused that you are so utterly quick to say "Yeah, nothing on those channels interest me" that it can't be seen as anything OTHER than a remark that was made without proper experience behind it. I bet you couldn't list the basic premise of most of the shows the other user listed without the aid of google. BTW, the channels that are known for being diverse are HBO and Showtime. That's pretty frakkin' obvious...

In short, there are plenty of older History Channel shows that do not center WWII, as users in this very thread have pointed out (Mail Call, Tales of the Gun, Wild West Tech, Days that Shook the World etc. etc.). Claiming that they never existed is illogical and laughable. Here, I'll even provide a shortcut so you can avoid all that painful, lengthy research as to why this is the case. :D