What's your favorite breed of dog???

[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"][QUOTE="worlock77"] Then whence came God?worlock77

[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"] Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.worlock77

It's not you, it's his brain damage

Relevant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity

but I'm sure this will go right over people's heads.

[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"] Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.GrayF0X786

Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.MetalDogGear

Actually, time is the product of a dispute between two hypkerkinetic sibling gods - Sally and Montgomery.
Their father - a fertility god known only as Chilly Septembers - created time in order to punish them more effectively (because it turned out that separating them for a few minutes was completely pointless unless minutes actually existed).

Oh, and this only happened 30 years ago, but he created a heck of a lot of time and just dumped it on us all at once.

See? Inventing plausible explanations is easy when you don't have to prove anything.
Also, the fun fact is that my explanation is every bit as likely to be true as yours is!

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[QUOTE="worlock77"] If something cannot come from nothing then everything then God cannot have come from nothing. So where did God come from?worlock77

[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"] Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.GrayF0X786

[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"] Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.GrayF0X786

[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] if you're asking such a question then you deny everything around you, its like if i had a gun and i wanted to shoot you, but then i would have to get permission from who ever is higher then me in authority, then he would have to ask permission from his higher ups, and it keeps on going, will that bullet ever be shot? how can one be so blind and foolish to the creation around him, the sun, the moon, the earth all playing its role, its pathetic, ignorant and sad to block out your own heart to this.

GrayF0X786

You do a dismal job of presenting your arguments.

[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"] Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.GrayF0X786

And products cannot exist before their creators. MetalDogGear

Not true.

Here comes some more quantum physics. :D

At the quantum level, time ceases to mean anything. Events can finish before they even start! And since time means nothing at this level, space (distance) doesn't, either (since space and time are the same thing).

Quantum particles can pass through matter that it can't pass through. They can associate themselves with another particle of any given distance (even billions of trillions of light years) and exchange spin information with each other instantly. At this level, there is no here or there, then and now, it's all just soup: quantum foam.

Imagine ripples spreading out over a pond before you throw the rock in. That's quantum physics.

[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"]And products cannot exist before their creators. br0kenrabbit

Not true.

Here comes some more quantum physics. :D

At the quantum level, time ceases to mean anything. Events can finish before they even start! And since time means nothing at this level, space (distance) doesn't, either (since space and time are the same thing).

Quantum particles can pass through matter that it can't pass through. They can associate themselves with another particle of any given distance (even billions of trillions of light years) and exchange spin information with each other instantly. At this level, there is no here or there, then and now, it's all just soup: quantum foam.

Imagine ripples spreading out over a pond before you throw the rock in. That's quantum physics.

Mine is HuskyMetalDogGear

Why are you such a racist?

German Sherpherd

Patterdale Terrier

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[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"]Science will never be able to prove why something comes from nothing. Which means, according to this, the Atheist's arguments get crushed under their own gravity. Simply put: if nothing can come nothing, then there had to be something And that something had to create the universe And so it had to be a sentient being And if it was sentient, it was God. Science tells us that humanity is nothing but a heartless machine that only cares about its own survival. And so there has to be a God to edify this situation.Yusuke420

Something comes from nothing all the time, all around you. Particles and anti-particles are popping into and out of existence all the time (they completely annihilate each other). We don't need to go back to the big bang for the mystery of 'something from nothing'.

Besides, if the total sum energy of the universe is 0, as it seems, then there really is nothing here, anyway.

MIGHTY RELIGION ARGUMENTS! TA DA DAAAAAH!!!! XD Hahahahah :D

It's fun how this topic didn't even get one proper response at first... just straight to religion... heh....

(btw. lol... Amstaff :) )

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[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"]And products cannot exist before their creators. Yusuke420

Not true.

Here comes some more quantum physics. :D

At the quantum level, time ceases to mean anything. Events can finish before they even start! And since time means nothing at this level, space (distance) doesn't, either (since space and time are the same thing).

Quantum particles can pass through matter that it can't pass through. They can associate themselves with another particle of any given distance (even billions of trillions of light years) and exchange spin information with each other instantly. At this level, there is no here or there, then and now, it's all just soup: quantum foam.

Imagine ripples spreading out over a pond before you throw the rock in. That's quantum physics.

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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Something comes from nothing all the time, all around you. Particles and anti-particles are popping into and out of existence all the time (they completely annihilate each other). We don't need to go back to the big bang for the mystery of 'something from nothing'.

Besides, if the total sum energy of the universe is 0, as it seems, then there really is nothing here, anyway.

Matthew-first

MIGHTY RELIGION ARGUMENTS! TA DA DAAAAAH!!!! XD Hahahahah :D

It's fun how this topic didn't even get one proper response at first... just straight to religion... heh....

(btw. lol... Amstaff :) )

I'm a Deist. Don't really care about the details but do believe a supreme being had to spark the universe. KC_Hokie

I find it hard to believe that the universe was designed just for us, given just how really big the universe is. The universe is really very big and apparently sentient life is very rare. This can be demostrated by the fact that given how vast we know the universe is, so far we haven't found even one Earth-like planet that contains beings just that like humans. This just shows how rare life in the universe really is.

If the universe really "liked" life then we would have found many Earth-like planets with sentient beings just like us but so far we just haven't found a second Earth with sentient, human-like beings on it.

The Doberman Pincher. Some people on here fogot what the Question was.

I like corgis

I am anti-anklebiters. :| I like the non-shedding, non-scary ones

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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]That's a mind f*ck lol...

Los9090

MIGHTY RELIGION ARGUMENTS! TA DA DAAAAAH!!!! XD Hahahahah :D

It's fun how this topic didn't even get one proper response at first... just straight to religion... heh....

(btw. lol... Amstaff :) )

German shepherd and Siberian Huskies for big dogs. Scottish Terriers and Welsh Corgi for smaller dogs.

The original topic was being followed just fine, then the TC, attempting to be clever I suppose, edited his posts. Look through the thread and you'll see folks quoting the TC's original post.worlock77

Worlock is right. I'm confident that this was the original topic:

Atheists still can't prove how something can come from nothingMetalDogGear

And the original body text of the OP:

Science will never be able to prove why something comes from nothing. Which means, according to this, the Atheist's arguments get crushed under their own gravity. Simply put: if nothing can come nothing, then there had to be something And that something had to create the universe And so it had to be a sentient being And if it was sentient, it was God. Science tells us that humanity is nothing but a heartless machine that only cares about its own survival. And so there has to be a God to edify this situation.MetalDogGear

This may seem inflammatory but if I were guessing the reason for the change in topic, my first guess would be cowardice.

This may seem inflammatory but if I were guessing the reason for the change in topic, my first guess would be cowardice.

psymon100

Yeah, he pretty much got boxed into a corner. Off the ropes and OMG IT'S A HALF NELSON SUPLEX! Oh wait, that's not boxing. But this ain't a thread about puppies, either.

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This may seem inflammatory but if I were guessing the reason for the change in topic, my first guess would be cowardice.

br0kenrabbit

Yeah, he pretty much got boxed into a corner. Off the ropes and OMG IT'S A HALF NELSON SUPLEX! Oh wait, that's not boxing. But this ain't a thread about puppies, either.

Yes.

Though changing this into a thread about dog breeds is somewhat ironic. Aren't the different breeds of dog available today a result of artificial selection? Sort of a 'method' of evolution? In 30000BC I doubt that the phenotype of 'Pug' existed etc.

Yes.

Though changing this into a thread about dog breeds is somewhat ironic. Aren't the different breeds of dog available today a result of artificial selection? Sort of a 'method' of evolution? In 30000BC I doubt that the phenotype of 'Pug' existed etc.

psymon100

Liberal lies and propaganda. Dogs don't come from wolves and my grandpappy was no monkey. Maybe yours was.

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Yes.

Though changing this into a thread about dog breeds is somewhat ironic. Aren't the different breeds of dog available today a result of artificial selection? Sort of a 'method' of evolution? In 30000BC I doubt that the phenotype of 'Pug' existed etc.

br0kenrabbit

Liberal lies and propaganda. Dogs don't come from wolves and my grandpappy was no monkey. Maybe yours was.

That was a pretty convincing impression.

That was a pretty convincing impression.

psymon100

I live in the Bible Belt.

:(

German Shepherd.

Huskies. I also like those dogs that look like little Ewoks (don't know the name).

shihtzu. they have a great personality. Though I prefer shihtzu mixes so that they have a longer snout.

Can we please get back to the original topic?

Huskies. I also like those dogs that look like little Ewoks (don't know the name).

Pirate700

chow chow?

lol@thisthread.com

Bulldog. There is just something about their little mushy faces that I can't not love

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Huskies. I also like those dogs that look like little Ewoks (don't know the name).

comp_atkins

chow chow?

They look so fluffy and cute, but in general they are really unfriendly.