Whats your religion? Attach a quote to support your views

I'm a thiest so I don't rule out god but I live my life in according to the laws of nature which is survival and science. Basically if there is one, we can\t comprehend it. I also belive in sikhism philosphy

some quotes of the late guru nanak (founder of sikh faith), the first founder and guru of the sikh religion

On his description of god

"am not the born; how can there be either birth or death for me"

"Thou has a thousand eyes and yet not one eye; Thou host a thousand forms and yet not one form."

"There is but One God, His name is Truth, He is the Creator, He fears none, he is without hate, He never dies, He is beyond the cycle of births and death, He is self illuminated, He is realized by the kindness of the True Guru. He was True in the beginning, He was True when the ages commenced and has ever been True, He is also True now."

^^ just some of his quotes. His philopshy is only 500 years old which sparked a revolution in punjab india where muslim and hindu's were under tyranny.

He was a revolutionary(for his time) trying to unite muslim and hindu philosphy.

to muslims he said be a true muslim, to hindus he said be a true hindu

Both faithss considered him a great teacher.

Out of his new teachings many spiritual people would come and listen to him speak , they became sikhs or (disciples).

He preached human equality. He traveled to mecca, iraq, egypt.

He has been historically proven to have existed.

he believed that everyone should have the freedom to practice whatever religion they choose.

The most important doctrine of sikhism was to meditate on god, earn by the sweat of your brow and to live a honest life. Also to serve the poor and to any creature on the living planet.

Just shedding light because when a religion topic comes up, alot of religions such as sikhism never show up or is not studied or even known.

Buddism is another one that I like.

Also confucious.

Sorry to forget but someone has to post something on leonardo da vinci whom i believe may have been one of the greatest men to walk the earth.

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[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]

I think I'm an atheist.

"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God who creates faulty humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes."
-Gene Roddenberry

I love this.

t3hrubikscube

How has he blamed us?

I wouldn't call that blame, since all you must do is accept God/Jesus. If anything he is trying right the wrongs, some people just don't want to accept him and therefore it is their own fault.

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[QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]

How has he blamed us?

VisigothSaxon

I wouldn't call that blame, since all you must do is accept God/Jesus. If anything he is trying right the wrongs, some people just don't want to accept him and therefore it is their own fault.

I wouldn't call that blame, since all you must do is accept God/Jesus. If anything he is trying right the wrongs, some people just don't want to accept him and therefore it is their own fault.

VisigothSaxon

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Atheist

"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."

cybrcatter

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I wouldn't call that blame, since all you must do is accept God/Jesus. If anything he is trying right the wrongs, some people just don't want to accept him and therefore it is their own fault.

xaos

Ah... that's what I was looking for. Thank you for making my day.

[QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]

I wouldn't call that blame, since all you must do is accept God/Jesus. If anything he is trying right the wrongs, some people just don't want to accept him and therefore it is their own fault.

xaos

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]

I wouldn't call that blame, since all you must do is accept God/Jesus. If anything he is trying right the wrongs, some people just don't want to accept him and therefore it is their own fault.

Atmanix

Ah... that's what I was looking for. Thank you for making my day.

[QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]

I wouldn't call that blame, since all you must do is accept God/Jesus. If anything he is trying right the wrongs, some people just don't want to accept him and therefore it is their own fault.

xaos

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[QUOTE="xaos"] Right, just like how battered wives wouldn't have to get slapped around IF THEY'D JUST LISTENxaos

Ah... that's what I was looking for. Thank you for making my day.

I was just joking :( I love your links.

agnostic

"don't know if there is a god or not, don't care either way."

I wouldn't call that blame, since all you must do is accept God/Jesus. If anything he is trying right the wrongs, some people just don't want to accept him and therefore it is their own fault.VisigothSaxon

Right, just like how battered wives wouldn't have to get slapped around IF THEY'D JUST LISTENxaos

There has never been a time when you and I have not existed, nor will there be a time when we will cease to exist. As the same person inhabits the body through childhood, youth, and old age, so too at the time of death he attains another body. The wise are not deluded by these changes. AnagramArtisan

Agnostic, with strong atheist leanings. "I'm agnostic with strong atheist leanings." - xaosxaos

I am a Muslim, with a 'liberal' interpretation.

That means:

• The autonomy of the individual in interpreting the Qur'an and Hadith.[9] More liberal trends include rejecting Hadiths completely (like Qur'an Alone Muslims) or partially (including hadiths considered authentic (Sahih) by traditionalists) like Gamal Al-Banna.
• A more critical and diverse examination of religious texts, as well as traditional Islamic precedents.
• Complete gender equality in all aspects, including ritual prayer and observance.
• A more open view on modern culture in relation to customs, dress, and common practices. Certain rules on modesty amongst men and women are still self-enforced in response to the Qur'an's injunction against immodest dress.
• The individual use of ijtihad (interpretation) and fitrah (natural sense of right and wrong) is advocated.

Most of the great quotes that stick out in my mind come from the Quran. Specifically.

"He who has done an Atom's worth of good will recieve his rewards, He who has done an Atom's worth of evil will receive his punishments"

"He deserves Paradise who can make his companions laugh"

"Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors."

"If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in God for He is the One that heareth and knoweth all things."

"O mankind! We created you from a single soul, male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, so that you may come to know one another. Truly, the most honored of you in God's sight is the greatest of you in piety. God is All-Knowing, All- Aware."

"Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve"

There are a lot more quotes out of the Quran that i find great solace in Islam.

i havent been to church in a while.

Athiest

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."- Stephen Robertsbdever32

[QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]I wouldn't call that blame, since all you must do is accept God/Jesus. If anything he is trying right the wrongs, some people just don't want to accept him and therefore it is their own fault.t3hrubikscube

Right, just like how battered wives wouldn't have to get slapped around IF THEY'D JUST LISTENxaos

Such anger and venom. Why do you insist on blaming God because humans took in sin, he didn't make us sin. "For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel." Martin Luther

Maybe we weren't faulty when he made us, anyway what is wrong with him trying to fix it? You make it sound like he is just trying to condemn everybody, but it is quite the opposite.

Such anger and venom. Why do you insist on blaming God because humans took in sin, he didn't make us sin. "For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel." Martin Luther

Maybe we weren't faulty when he made us, anyway what is wrong with him trying to fix it? You make it sound like he is just trying to condemn everybody, but it is quite the opposite.

VisigothSaxon

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Such anger and venom. Why do you insist on blaming God because humans took in sin, he didn't make us sin. "For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel." Martin Luther

Maybe we weren't faulty when he made us, anyway what is wrong with him trying to fix it? You make it sound like he is just trying to condemn everybody, but it is quite the opposite.

xaos

Things change or maybe there is a divine plan at work in all this that we have yet to realize.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]

Such anger and venom. Why do you insist on blaming God because humans took in sin, he didn't make us sin. "For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel." Martin Luther

Maybe we weren't faulty when he made us, anyway what is wrong with him trying to fix it? You make it sound like he is just trying to condemn everybody, but it is quite the opposite.

VisigothSaxon

Things change or maybe there is a divine plan at work in all this that we have yet to realize.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"][QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"] Well, I WOULD call it blame. You seem to have missed the point of the quote entirely. It's asking why God would create faulty humans (in this case, humans who don't accept God/Jesus) and then blame them for such (condemning them). It's illogical and quite frankly bizarre. Or, well, if you're okay with that, then that's just sadistic. [QUOTE="xaos"]Right, just like how battered wives wouldn't have to get slapped around IF THEY'D JUST LISTENVisigothSaxon

Such anger and venom. Why do you insist on blaming God because humans took in sin, he didn't make us sin. "For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel." Martin Luther

Maybe we weren't faulty when he made us, anyway what is wrong with him trying to fix it? You make it sound like he is just trying to condemn everybody, but it is quite the opposite.

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[QUOTE="xaos"] How can it not be the fault of an omnipotent, omniscient Creator?xaos

Things change or maybe there is a divine plan at work in all this that we have yet to realize.

I am just a man, but one in the right direction.

Atheist.


"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him." -Voltair

Simple Christian

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." - John 14:6

Such anger and venom. Why do you insist on blaming God because humans took in sin, he didn't make us sin. "For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel." Martin Luther

Maybe we weren't faulty when he made us, anyway what is wrong with him trying to fix it? You make it sound like he is just trying to condemn everybody, but it is quite the opposite.

VisigothSaxon

I'm also not angry. I've never actively believed in God, despite a Christian upbringing.

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[QUOTE="xaos"] How can it not be the fault of an omnipotent, omniscient Creator?xaos

Things change or maybe there is a divine plan at work in all this that we have yet to realize.

The question was somewhat unfair.Due to God saying "For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD." You asked him to explain the ways of a being who is not like us, not to mention infinitley superior to us.

Such anger and venom. Why do you insist on blaming God because humans took in sin, he didn't make us sin. "For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel." Martin Luther

Maybe we weren't faulty when he made us, anyway what is wrong with him trying to fix it? You make it sound like he is just trying to condemn everybody, but it is quite the opposite.VisigothSaxon

I'll be nice:

(Hypothetically, if God exists.) God is supposed to be omniscient. Hence, he knows everything. He is also our creator, he knew everything when creating us, so he must therefore know everything about us including our future and any future faults. He's to blame since despite knowing everything, being all powerful and claiming to be an all infinite love, sin somehow exists in the world and humans do sin often (punishable by eternal suffering). It's pretty much his doing since he had the full knowledge of what was coming and the power to stop it (see omnipotence and omniscience). Hell. It seems to me he must've intentionally made humans to be faulty and to sin, just sayin'.

And he's doing a pretty crap job of "fixing" these faults then. All he has to do is will it and it is fixed. We needn't know anything has been changed either. Instead, he just sends people to hell for eternal suffering after they digress with a moral code. Is that a fix? **** no.

[QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]Such anger and venom. Why do you insist on blaming God because humans took in sin, he didn't make us sin. "For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel." Martin Luther

Maybe we weren't faulty when he made us, anyway what is wrong with him trying to fix it? You make it sound like he is just trying to condemn everybody, but it is quite the opposite.T_P_O

I'll be nice:

(Hypothetically, if God exists.) God is supposed to be omniscient. Hence, he knows everything. He is also our creator, he knew everything when creating us, so he must therefore know everything about us including our future and any future faults. He's to blame since despite knowing everything, being all powerful and claiming to be an all infinite love, sin somehow exists in the world and humans do sin often (punishable by eternal suffering). It's pretty much his doing since he had the full knowledge of what was coming and the power to stop it (see omnipotence and omniscience). Hell. It seems to me he must've intentionally made humans to be faulty and to sin, just sayin'.

And he's doing a pretty crap job of "fixing" these faults then. All he has to do is will it and it is fixed. We needn't know anything has been changed either. Instead, he just sends people to hell for eternal suffering after they digress with a moral code. Is that a fix? **** no.

Maybe he wants us to learn something, and you have clearly learned nothing.

[QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]Such anger and venom. Why do you insist on blaming God because humans took in sin, he didn't make us sin. "For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel." Martin Luther

Maybe we weren't faulty when he made us, anyway what is wrong with him trying to fix it? You make it sound like he is just trying to condemn everybody, but it is quite the opposite.

t3hrubikscube

I'm also not angry. I've never actively believed in God, despite a Christian upbringing.

That is a good question, but I doubt he will be punishing the good. All things will be worked out for the better in the end.

Atheist quote to support this: "...I am the master of my soul."Hellfire-1

do you believe in souls?

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

That is a good question, but I doubt he will be punishing the good. All things will be worked out for the better in the end.VisigothSaxon

I'm an atheist.

Not sure if someone has posted this quote already because I'm too lazy to look through them all but how about this infamous one..

All thinking men are atheists- Ernest Hemmingway :)

You can probably tell my "religion". :)

[QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]That is a good question, but I doubt he will be punishing the good. All things will be worked out for the better in the end.t3hrubikscube

Not a cop out. I just don't have the answer you are looking for, maybe some day you will find the answer you are looking for.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"][QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]That is a good question, but I doubt he will be punishing the good. All things will be worked out for the better in the end.VisigothSaxon

Not a cop out. I just don't have the answer you are looking for, maybe some day you will find the answer you are looking for.

I'm an Atheist

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." (Albert Einstein)

"I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose." (Clarence Darrow)

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[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"] Typical cop-out answer. I guess I shouldn't have expected anything better.t3hrubikscube

Not a cop out. I just don't have the answer you are looking for, maybe some day you will find the answer you are looking for.

Maybe it will take an answer from God to convince you.

I don't have the answers, I know what I have read and what I beleive.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"][QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]

Not a cop out. I just don't have the answer you are looking for, maybe some day you will find the answer you are looking for.

VisigothSaxon

Maybe it will take an answer from God to convince you.

I don't have the answers, I know what I have read and what I beleive.

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[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"] I don't really care anymore about finding the answer since I think it's all hypothetical, it has nothing to do with my life, and even if I heard a better-formulated answer I don't think that'd be enough to convince me to believe in God anyway. I just would like to hear real answers from believers, but I often get really vague answers that don't really answer the questions. I guess I just don't get the whole faith thing.t3hrubikscube

Maybe it will take an answer from God to convince you.

I don't have the answers, I know what I have read and what I beleive.