The only case I can think of was the one time they were used: to force the surrender of Japan. Lives were saved by that decision. Plus, the weapons were in their infancy, and thus, weren't powerful enough to wipe out an entire province or state.
Never. There is no reason to mass-murder thousands of innocent people, not to mention the genetic effects it has on survivors nearby and future generations. It's utterly heartless and I don't know how someone could ever make that call. . .
The only case I can think of was the one time they were used: to force the surrender of Japan. Lives were saved by that decision. Plus, the weapons were in their infancy, and thus, weren't powerful enough to wipe out an entire province or state.ElZilcho90
We just had a thread on the justification of the US bombing Japan no more than a week ago. The bombing of innocent civilians is never justified. Japan was on the verge of surrender and the nuclear bombings were not needed. It didn't save any lives... it only killed more. Military vs. military deaths are easily justifiable... even if it numbers in the millions... civilians deaths are NEVER justifiable.
The only case I can think of was the one time they were used: to force the surrender of Japan. Lives were saved by that decision. Plus, the weapons were in their infancy, and thus, weren't powerful enough to wipe out an entire province or state.ElZilcho90
They used those weapons as a science experiment, a sick little game to see what would happen. Killing hundreds of thousands like that is nothing but an act of cowardice. Nukes are for the weak.
[QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]When should a nation nuke another one?MissRiotmaker
Never. if the allies had a nuke at the start of WWII...would you have been ok with the nuke being used on nazi germany to force their surrender and prevent the holocaust and so forth?
[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]When should a nation nuke another one?Serial-No_3404
Never. if the allies had a nuke at the start of WWII...would you have been ok with the nuke being used on nazi germany to force their surrender and prevent the holocaust and so forth? Nuclear escalation is never the answer. It should never come to that. Understand what "never" means before you reply to my post next time.
[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]When should a nation nuke another one?MissRiotmaker
Never. if the allies had a nuke at the start of WWII...would you have been ok with the nuke being used on nazi germany to force their surrender and prevent the holocaust and so forth? Nuclear escalation is never the answer. It should never come to that. Understand what "never" means before you reply to my post next time. sometimes the ends justify the means
[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]When should a nation nuke another one?MissRiotmaker
Never. if the allies had a nuke at the start of WWII...would you have been ok with the nuke being used on nazi germany to force their surrender and prevent the holocaust and so forth? Nuclear escalation is never the answer. It should never come to that. Understand what "never" means before you reply to my post next time.Indeed, next time you post a one word response I'll make sure all of OT sits and ponders all the possible thing you mean. Also make sure they have a indepth look into the deep and meaningful post you have made
when the world has learned from Dr. Strangelove how to stop worrying and love the bomb. and then we can all sing Vera Lyn's We'll Meet Again on our way to kingdom come.
Only when almost completely overrun by Zombies. Or almost completely filled with an extremely infectious virus. Other than that, nuking civilians aint right, ever >_>
[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]When should a nation nuke another one?Serial-No_3404
Never. if the allies had a nuke at the start of WWII...would you have been ok with the nuke being used on nazi germany to force their surrender and prevent the holocaust and so forth? Nuclear escalation is never the answer. It should never come to that. Understand what "never" means before you reply to my post next time. sometimes the ends justify the means
But, would it be justified to save a nation by destroying another? The effects of a nuclear bomb, would adversely affect future generations as well. What crime did they commit?
[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]When should a nation nuke another one?MFaraz_Hayat
Never. if the allies had a nuke at the start of WWII...would you have been ok with the nuke being used on nazi germany to force their surrender and prevent the holocaust and so forth? Nuclear escalation is never the answer. It should never come to that. Understand what "never" means before you reply to my post next time. sometimes the ends justify the means
But, would it be justified to save a nation by destroying another? The effects of a nuclear bomb, would adversely affect future generations as well. What crime did they commit?
if more are saved than would be killed by the nuke then the end is justified...300 thousands lives lost in a nuclear blast to prevent the loss of over a million people is worth it...the lives of a few for the lives of many
[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]When should a nation nuke another one?MFaraz_Hayat
Never. if the allies had a nuke at the start of WWII...would you have been ok with the nuke being used on nazi germany to force their surrender and prevent the holocaust and so forth? Nuclear escalation is never the answer. It should never come to that. Understand what "never" means before you reply to my post next time. sometimes the ends justify the means
But, would it be justified to save a nation by destroying another? The effects of a nuclear bomb, would adversely affect future generations as well. What crime did they commit?
So in retrospect, having one nation nuke another, and having another nuke the first nation in retaliation would be justified. That's some screwed up logic. That's like saying one man killing another man for killing another is justified.
if more are saved than would be killed by the nuke then the end is justified...300 thousands lives lost in a nuclear blast to prevent the loss of over a million people is worth it...the lives of a few for the lives of manySerial-No_3404
Civilian deaths... no matter how few... are NEVER justified. EVER. Killing civilians is murder, pure and simple. MURDER. Murder whose perpetrators should be tried and punished for.
[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]When should a nation nuke another one?Serial-No_3404
Never. if the allies had a nuke at the start of WWII...would you have been ok with the nuke being used on nazi germany to force their surrender and prevent the holocaust and so forth? Nuclear escalation is never the answer. It should never come to that. Understand what "never" means before you reply to my post next time. sometimes the ends justify the means
But, would it be justified to save a nation by destroying another? The effects of a nuclear bomb, would adversely affect future generations as well. What crime did they commit?
if more are saved than would be killed by the nuke then the end is justified...300 thousands lives lost in a nuclear blast to prevent the loss of over a million people is worth it...the lives of a few for the lives of many
Even if the few had not done anything? Even if, it was not their fault that their government was acting irrationally? Lives of many would be saved at the cost that their effects of nuclear bomb, haunt their future generations. I donot agree with this. Punish him, who is at fault. Not innocent, to save your own hide.
[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]When should a nation nuke another one?MissRiotmaker
Never. if the allies had a nuke at the start of WWII...would you have been ok with the nuke being used on nazi germany to force their surrender and prevent the holocaust and so forth? Nuclear escalation is never the answer. It should never come to that. Understand what "never" means before you reply to my post next time. sometimes the ends justify the means
But, would it be justified to save a nation by destroying another? The effects of a nuclear bomb, would adversely affect future generations as well. What crime did they commit?
So in retrospect, having one nation nuke another, and having another nuke the first nation in retaliation would be justified. That's some screwed up logic. That's like saying one man killing another man for killing another is justified.do you understand what "the ends justify the means" at all?...ask if its worth it...is it worth getting nuked in return? if not then the ends does not justify...look at the context of the situation
"Right" and "wrong" are subjective ideals, one nation's "enemy" is another nation's "friend." One nation's wrong is another's right. Humans need to learn to coexist together. True "Democracy" and "Empires" cannot coexist.
[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]When should a nation nuke another one?Serial-No_3404
Never. if the allies had a nuke at the start of WWII...would you have been ok with the nuke being used on nazi germany to force their surrender and prevent the holocaust and so forth? Nuclear escalation is never the answer. It should never come to that. Understand what "never" means before you reply to my post next time. sometimes the ends justify the means
But, would it be justified to save a nation by destroying another? The effects of a nuclear bomb, would adversely affect future generations as well. What crime did they commit?
So in retrospect, having one nation nuke another, and having another nuke the first nation in retaliation would be justified. That's some screwed up logic. That's like saying one man killing another man for killing another is justified.do you understand what "the ends justify the means" at all?...ask if its worth it...is it worth getting nuked in return? if not then the ends does not justify...look at the context of the situation Is it worth getting nuked? NOTHING is worth getting nuked. Are you insane?
[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]if more are saved than would be killed by the nuke then the end is justified...300 thousands lives lost in a nuclear blast to prevent the loss of over a million people is worth it...the lives of a few for the lives of manyfoxhound_fox
Civilian deaths... no matter how few... are NEVER justified. EVER. Killing civilians is murder, pure and simple. MURDER. Murder whose perpetrators should be tried and punished for. in total war there are no "innocent'...look at the context of the conflict...dont look at the loyal side alone...sometimes the right decision is the worst one
[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]When should a nation nuke another one?MissRiotmaker
Never. if the allies had a nuke at the start of WWII...would you have been ok with the nuke being used on nazi germany to force their surrender and prevent the holocaust and so forth? Nuclear escalation is never the answer. It should never come to that. Understand what "never" means before you reply to my post next time. sometimes the ends justify the means
But, would it be justified to save a nation by destroying another? The effects of a nuclear bomb, would adversely affect future generations as well. What crime did they commit?
So in retrospect, having one nation nuke another, and having another nuke the first nation in retaliation would be justified. That's some screwed up logic. That's like saying one man killing another man for killing another is justified.do you understand what "the ends justify the means" at all?...ask if its worth it...is it worth getting nuked in return? if not then the ends does not justify...look at the context of the situation Is it worth getting nuked? NOTHING is worth getting nuked. Are you insane?im a realist...to see humans as innately good is insanity
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