Where do you stand on economics?

Where do you stand on economics? Are you more conservative or liberal?

What I believe:

Tax cuts stimulate the economy.

Tax cuts encourage business expansion and job openings because of a company's savings.

Tax cuts help the middle class. More money in people's accounts means more money being spent, which helps companies and thus means better job security for employees.

Lower taxes actually increase government revenue. More jobs mean more people paying taxes.

The minimum wage should be moderate. If it's designated too high, there will be less jobs available because of business expenses.

Competition increases wages and keeps product prices in check.

Competition drives the market. Not the government.

So, I'm a capitalist and I strongly believe in free enterprise.

I'm split, I believe in social programs, but there are instances in which they are taken advantage of, then I'm more of a laissez fairist.Lann50

What kind of social programs? 

I believe in a mixed economy, the government should have some interventions (to make the country better). A total free economy will make things worse people will work for money and forget everything and this leads the rich people to be richer and poor to be poorer and capitalism will distroy the world if the government doesnt protect the consumer. And also the government should intervene in some cases.

MIXED ECONOMIES FTW!! 

Where do you stand on economics? Are you more conservative or liberal?

 

What I believe:

Tax cuts stimulate the economy.

Tax cuts encourage business expansion and job openings because of a company's savings.

Tax cuts help the middle class. More money in people's accounts means more money being spent, which helps companies and thus means better job security for employees.

Lower taxes actually increase government revenue. More jobs mean more people paying taxes.

The minimum wage should be moderate. If it's designated too high, there will be less jobs available because of business expenses.

Competition raises the minimum wage and keeps product prices in check.

Competition drives the market. Not the government.

 

 

 

 

So, I'm a capitalist and I strongly believe in free enterprise.

MayorJohnny

thats exactly what i believe in

Where do you stand on economics? Are you more conservative or liberal?

 

What I believe:

Tax cuts stimulate the economy.

Tax cuts encourage business expansion and job openings because of a company's savings.

Tax cuts help the middle class. More money in people's accounts means more money being spent, which helps companies and thus means better job security for employees.

Lower taxes actually increase government revenue. More jobs mean more people paying taxes.

The minimum wage should be moderate. If it's designated too high, there will be less jobs available because of business expenses.

Competition raises the minimum wage and keeps product prices in check.

Competition drives the market. Not the government.

 

 

 

 

So, I'm a capitalist and I strongly believe in free enterprise.

MayorJohnny

I agree.

Also, we should stop some of the social programs we have going, they're a huge waste of government money.

And the Government should keep it's hands off the economy. 

communism.Artosa

Buy low, sell high

That about sums it up for me.

i agree taxing the wealthy isn't always the best idea...because alot of rich people control industry and industry provides jobs, tax them to much and it will eventually trickel on down to the regular working guy, lower wages, less benifits, pension etc...so your screwing yourself in the end.  i'm very pro capitalism, i belive in free trade, competitive commerce and limited governement interference, tax breaks for the working man etc...Chief_Smackaho

Not to point out the obvious....but there is a difference between the personal income of the wealthy and the taxes business pays.  You seem to be mixing them together.:|

I stand on the fact that income tax and the federal reserve are BS systems that are decieving and ruining america.  They should both be abolished immediatly.  F1U4

I stand on the fact that income tax and the federal reserve are BS systems that are decieving and ruining america. They should both be abolished immediatly. F1U4

[QUOTE="F1U4"]I stand on the fact that income tax and the federal reserve are BS systems that are decieving and ruining america.  They should both be abolished immediatly.  xaos

No because those systems are actually useful.  Our current monetary system is inflating the money at a startling rate and the income tax feeds the interest that the federal reserve charges the goverment.  The Reserve is a private bank that prints money out of thin air and has zero accountability.  Our taxes go to a bank that prints useless money!!! 

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="F1U4"]I stand on the fact that income tax and the federal reserve are BS systems that are decieving and ruining america.  They should both be abolished immediatly.  F1U4

No because those systems are actually useful.  Our current monetary system is inflating the money at a startling rate and the income tax feeds the interest that the federal reserve charges the goverment.  The Reserve is a private bank that prints money out of thin air and has zero accountability.  Our taxes go to a bank that prints useless money!!! 

Do you know how those "useful systems" are funded?:|

I  am economically conservative. But I do believe we need some governmental involvement,but just enough to protect the citizens not enough to actually be controlling or helping to cause rifts withing the classes. I aso believe most social programs should be overhauled for situation but not completly abolished,so we need taxes. for instance single mothers should lose welfare. if you want to not work and pop babies,find a man or sell crack for support. On the other hand I would totally support my tax dollar going to free daycare for any single mother who works and can prove it,and daycare and tuition if they are getting higher education and can prove it.

 Social programs should be designed to help people to help themselves. the way they are currently not only do they pooch the taxpayer,but they also set the recipients up to not want or need to leave their ruts.

Where do you stand on economics? Are you more conservative or liberal?

 

What I believe:

Tax cuts stimulate the economy.

Tax cuts encourage business expansion and job openings because of a company's savings.

Tax cuts help the middle class. More money in people's accounts means more money being spent, which helps companies and thus means better job security for employees.

Lower taxes actually increase government revenue. More jobs mean more people paying taxes.

The minimum wage should be moderate. If it's designated too high, there will be less jobs available because of business expenses.

Competition raises the minimum wage and keeps product prices in check.

Competition drives the market. Not the government.

 

 

 

 

So, I'm a capitalist and I strongly believe in free enterprise.

MayorJohnny

You, like many other forumites believe in what non-idealists call "pop-culture economics". 

how abou this.. you all want tax cuts? DEMAND that the gov't stop spending soo much damm money!! you elect people with no financial scruples into positions of power to piss away billions upon billions of dollars and then want a tax break?!?!

kdr charges the gov't like $27 per plate for each and every meal by each and every soldier at some of the large camps in iraq.   and thats not counting the food on it.  just $27 for a foam plate.  

Any other of the many wonderful taxes we have.F1U4

Like?

The less government is involved in the economy, the better.ElZilcho90

[QUOTE="F1U4"]Any other of the many wonderful taxes we have.LJS9502_basic

Like?

General tax, property tax, corporate tax.  Corporate tax alone can fund the war in iraq.

I am economically conservative. But I do believe we need some governmental involvement,but just enough to protect the citizens not enough to actually be controlling or helping to cause rifts withing the classes. I aso believe most social programs should be overhauled for situation but not completly abolished,so we need taxes. for instance single mothers should lose welfare. if you want to not work and pop babies,find a man or sell crack for support. On the other hand I would totally support my tax dollar going to free daycare for any single mother who works and can prove it,and daycare and tuition if they are getting higher education and can prove it.

Social programs should be designed to help people to help themselves. the way they are currently not only do they pooch the taxpayer,but they also set the recipients up to not want or need to leave their ruts.

mattykovax

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="F1U4"]Any other of the many wonderful taxes we have.F1U4

Like?

General tax, property tax, corporate tax.  Corporate tax alone can fund the war in iraq.

What is general tax?  Property tax is not federal.  Ok..the war is funded with corporate tax.....where do you get the money for everything esle?  By the way, if you make corporate tax too high....the corporations move out of the country.  Now where do you get the money to fund your war?

[QUOTE="F1U4"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="F1U4"]Any other of the many wonderful taxes we have.LJS9502_basic

Like?

General tax, property tax, corporate tax.  Corporate tax alone can fund the war in iraq.

What is general tax?  Property tax is not federal.  Ok..the war is funded with corporate tax.....where do you get the money for everything esle?  By the way, if you make corporate tax too high....the corporations move out of the country.  Now where do you get the money to fund your war?

They borrow money for everything the taxes don't pay for.  And if they run out...they print more money out of nothing. 

They borrow money for everything the taxes don't pay for.  And if they run out...they print more money out of nothing. 

F1U4

Borrow money...from where? Print more money?  Then the money becomes worthless. No...neither is an option.

[QUOTE="mattykovax"]

I am economically conservative. But I do believe we need some governmental involvement,but just enough to protect the citizens not enough to actually be controlling or helping to cause rifts withing the classes. I aso believe most social programs should be overhauled for situation but not completly abolished,so we need taxes. for instance single mothers should lose welfare. if you want to not work and pop babies,find a man or sell crack for support. On the other hand I would totally support my tax dollar going to free daycare for any single mother who works and can prove it,and daycare and tuition if they are getting higher education and can prove it.

Social programs should be designed to help people to help themselves. the way they are currently not only do they pooch the taxpayer,but they also set the recipients up to not want or need to leave their ruts.

Def_Jef88

Hurrah for spouting idealist generalities, soon you'll be telling us you're libertarian...

Also to the monopolies person: 

What about DeBeers? Possibly the biggest "formal" monopoly and one of the only left, it may be a lesser of two evils given the geopolitical and risk to inhabitants and workers of places they mine if excessive competition goes into the African nations where DeBeers reigns supreme

What about the police and firefighting services? Certainly those deserve to be a monopoly of the state, do you want random firetrucks running into each other?

[QUOTE="F1U4"]

They borrow money for everything the taxes don't pay for.  And if they run out...they print more money out of nothing. 

LJS9502_basic

Borrow money. Print more money?  No...neither is an option.

Yet, it's what they do. 

What about the police and firefighting services? Certainly those deserve to be a monopoly of the state, do you want random firetrucks running into each other?

Zealot_02_basic

the Government owns those, though. 

What about the police and firefighting services? Certainly those deserve to be a monopoly of the state, do you want random firetrucks running into each other?

Zealot_02_basic

Municipal services DO NOT qualify as a monopoly...they are a service...not a business.:|

[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]

I am economically conservative. But I do believe we need some governmental involvement,but just enough to protect the citizens not enough to actually be controlling or helping to cause rifts withing the classes. I aso believe most social programs should be overhauled for situation but not completly abolished,so we need taxes. for instance single mothers should lose welfare. if you want to not work and pop babies,find a man or sell crack for support. On the other hand I would totally support my tax dollar going to free daycare for any single mother who works and can prove it,and daycare and tuition if they are getting higher education and can prove it.

Social programs should be designed to help people to help themselves. the way they are currently not only do they pooch the taxpayer,but they also set the recipients up to not want or need to leave their ruts.

Zealot_02_basic

Hurrah for spouting idealist generalities, soon you'll be telling us you're libertarian...

[QUOTE="Zealot_02_basic"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]

I am economically conservative. But I do believe we need some governmental involvement,but just enough to protect the citizens not enough to actually be controlling or helping to cause rifts withing the classes. I aso believe most social programs should be overhauled for situation but not completly abolished,so we need taxes. for instance single mothers should lose welfare. if you want to not work and pop babies,find a man or sell crack for support. On the other hand I would totally support my tax dollar going to free daycare for any single mother who works and can prove it,and daycare and tuition if they are getting higher education and can prove it.

Social programs should be designed to help people to help themselves. the way they are currently not only do they pooch the taxpayer,but they also set the recipients up to not want or need to leave their ruts.

Def_Jef88

Hurrah for spouting idealist generalities, soon you'll be telling us you're libertarian...

Oh if only the government were such a dynamic poverty fighting force which could enact such policies to make sure people won't use welfare money to their advantage...no one in their right mind would just try to blindly throw money at the problem...right?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="F1U4"]

They borrow money for everything the taxes don't pay for. And if they run out...they print more money out of nothing.

F1U4

Borrow money. Print more money? No...neither is an option.

Yet, it's what they do.

Printing more money is such a ludicrous suggestion. Didn't you see what happened to Germany after the First World War, when they tried to print more money to pay for the reparations they owed from the Treaty of Versailles? Inflation shot up to 20000% and German money became worthless. Sure, they can borrow money, from the private sector banks or through the central bank but that's not good business, because you're weakening the private sector and you end up with liabilities that sometime you'll have to repay.

i believe in the eradication of money and any other form of indirect oppression that had made human life so miserable. MRZA

Where do you stand on economics? Are you more conservative or liberal?

 

What I believe:

Tax cuts stimulate the economy.

Which is lovely in theory, but in reality, people having an extra two hundred bucks does not matter, and if they have more taxes, they will probably have to spend less. This view really encourages inflation, if you look at it that way. 

Tax cuts encourage business expansion and job openings because of a company's savings.

Sure. But I think most corporations make enough. They're busy enough and good enough at getting profits for the rest of us to not have to worry about it.

Tax cuts help the middle class. More money in people's accounts means more money being spent, which helps companies and thus means better job security for employees.

OK. So have no government. After all, what's better to provide things like education and healthcare (which should strictly and principally be nonprofit) than the private sector? The government?! Obviously not, just look at Europe, Canada, or Cuba. Fascists.

Lower taxes actually increase government revenue. More jobs mean more people paying taxes.

No. They don't.

The minimum wage should be moderate. If it's designated too high, there will be less jobs available because of business expenses.

Interesting. Tax cuts should give people more money, tax cuts should give more money to businesses so that they can give this to the people, but for some reason, we should not require businesses to give people more money. Interesting.

Competition raises the minimum wage and keeps product prices in check.

Uh, no, labor unions raise the minimum wage. If it were up to businesses, there would be absolutely no minimum wage. OH NO PRICES ARE TOO HIGH...WHERE THE HELL IS ALL THIS MONEY GOING?! Oh yeah. Me.

Competition drives the market. Not the government.

Yeah, obviously. But you can't just have businesses doing whatever the hell they please because at the end of the day, they do what is best for them, only them, and not for everyone else. What's so terrible about businesses is that they do not have the innate sense of morality that individuals do and thus are utterly incapable of genuine altruism.

 

 

 

 

So, I'm a capitalist and I strongly believe in free enterprise.

MayorJohnny

i believe in the eradication of money and any other form of indirect oppression that had made human life so miserable. MRZA

i agree with mayor johny i dont think the government should intervene at all because when they do r economy falls and if u havent noticed r economy isnt doin that well right now with oil,the war,and these fricken hurricanesatony12