which artist was the biggest lost to music industry?

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[QUOTE="savebattery"] Elvis is quite possibly the most important and influential man in the history of modern music. His styIe, his flair, his voice, his attitude... they paved the way for all future rock stars. Elvis was the first true music "superstar"; without Elvis there would have never been a Michael Jackson or a John Lennon. Lennon himself said he spent most of his adolescence pretending to be Elvis in front of his mirror.jalexbrown

yea but wana know what i find funny

ask anyone to name a beatles song.

ask someone to name a elvis song... i bet 2/10 people dont know an elvis song off the top of their head

hes only famous for three things

1/peanut butter and banana sammies

2/his hair

3/thank you very much

thats it!

you already lost im 21 and i dont no a single one

and i know 139193 beatles songs geezee

and another thing, elvis was never better than lennon or even jackson for that matter

[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"]No...just...no. they completely revolutionized hip hop and increased its popularity...

diegosanchezMMA

dissagree with you 110%

your not a rap fan...

2 pac rapped about struggles raped about being broke raped the truth of the everyday life in the ghetto

he may have never been a good guy, lets be honest he dident sell millions of records for sucking.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="diegosanchezMMA"]

yea but wana know what i find funny

ask anyone to name a beatles song.

ask someone to name a elvis song... i bet 2/10 people dont know an elvis song off the top of their head

hes only famous for three things

1/peanut butter and banana sammies

2/his hair

3/thank you very much

thats it!

diegosanchezMMA

you already lost im 21 and i dont no a single one

and i know 139193 beatles songs geezee

and another thing, elvis was never better than lennon or even jackson for that matter

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[QUOTE="savebattery"] They took something bad and made it worse. They can have the "credit" if they want it. While I'm not a fan of rap in general, Tupac and Biggie are about the worst examples I can come up with of "good rap", aside from modern fiascoes like 50 Cent or Soulja Boy. I'm sick of people trying to canonize these two men. Neither one had an ounce of depth in their lyrics, and neither could compose to save their lives. They could speak quickly in rhymes; that's the best that can be said about them.savebattery

dissagree with you 110%

your not a rap fan...

2 pac rapped about struggles raped about being broke raped the truth of the everyday life in the ghetto

he may have never been a good guy, lets be honest he dident sell millions of records for sucking.

ok im sorry but your a rap hatter.....hey listen to some of the music ok...some of his songs gives me the chills to what he raps about (i dont even like rap)

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="diegosanchezMMA"]

yea but wana know what i find funny

ask anyone to name a beatles song.

ask someone to name a elvis song... i bet 2/10 people dont know an elvis song off the top of their head

hes only famous for three things

1/peanut butter and banana sammies

2/his hair

3/thank you very much

thats it!

diegosanchezMMA

you already lost im 21 and i dont no a single one

and i know 139193 beatles songs geezee

and another thing, elvis was never better than lennon or even jackson for that matter

Elvis is quite possibly the most important and influential man in the history of modern music. His styIe, his flair, his voice, his attitude... they paved the way for all future rock stars. Elvis was the first true music "superstar"; without Elvis there would have never been a Michael Jackson or a John Lennon. Lennon himself said he spent most of his adolescence pretending to be Elvis in front of his mirror.savebattery

And Elvis got his flare and style from the blues and black singers before him. Artist are always going to get their style from their predocessors.

The one that had the most effect on me was J Dilla. I was still pretty young when Biggie (3rd grade), Big L (5th grade), and Big Pun (6th grade) all passed away. I was a senior in high school when Dilla passed away though. J Dilla's was crazy because his album Donuts, which he finished while being sick in the hospital, was coming out the next week. We all knew Dilla was sick but I don't think anyone expected him to pass away from it. ODB, Pimp C, James Brown and Michael Jackson also stand out to me. James Brown's was particularly memorable because it happened on Christmas of all days...

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] So think about that: Elvis was so ****ing popular that people knew what kind of sandwich he enjoyed. Just let that settle in your mind for a second. And I dare say you're wrong, because I'd wager almost everyone over the age of 20 can name at least one Elvis song.CRS98

you already lost im 21 and i dont no a single one

and i know 139193 beatles songs geezee

and another thing, elvis was never better than lennon or even jackson for that matter

[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="diegosanchezMMA"]

see its your prefrence on music

pac a big were huge for rap ask anyone who likes rap, every year the have a pac, big special on their deaths on tv but never elvis. not to mention elvis oded on drugs does not help. did he i dont recall correct me if im wrong

diegosanchezMMA

yea but wana know what i find funny

ask anyone to name a beatles song.

ask someone to name a elvis song... i bet 2/10 people dont know an elvis song off the top of their head

hes only famous for three things

1/peanut butter and banana sammies

2/his hair

3/thank you very much

thats it!

[QUOTE="savebattery"]

Elvis is quite possibly the most important and influential man in the history of modern music. His styIe, his flair, his voice, his attitude... they paved the way for all future rock stars. Elvis was the first true music "superstar"; without Elvis there would have never been a Michael Jackson or a John Lennon. Lennon himself said he spent most of his adolescence pretending to be Elvis in front of his mirror.kidsmelly

And Elvis got his flare and style from the blues and black singers before him. Artist are always going to get their style from their predocessors.

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[QUOTE="savebattery"]

Elvis is quite possibly the most important and influential man in the history of modern music. His styIe, his flair, his voice, his attitude... they paved the way for all future rock stars. Elvis was the first true music "superstar"; without Elvis there would have never been a Michael Jackson or a John Lennon. Lennon himself said he spent most of his adolescence pretending to be Elvis in front of his mirror.savebattery

And Elvis got his flare and style from the blues and black singers before him. Artist are always going to get their style from their predocessors.

[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="diegosanchezMMA"]

dissagree with you 110%

your not a rap fan...

2 pac rapped about struggles raped about being broke raped the truth of the everyday life in the ghetto

he may have never been a good guy, lets be honest he dident sell millions of records for sucking.

diegosanchezMMA

ok im sorry but your a rap hatter.....hey listen to some of the music ok...some of his songs gives me the chills to what he raps about (i dont even like rap)

The lack of Elvis is more than disturbing; poll fails.jalexbrown

T pain should also be up there when he dies he brought auto-tune to a whole new level.

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[QUOTE="savebattery"] Sales are irrelevant when examining things like lyrical depth or musical complexity. Sales reflect what the public wants and nothing more. And let's be clear: I'm making no assumptions about who he was as a person. I'm basing this solely on his music. And his music was comprised of basic beats and grade school poetry with slang thrown in. Understanding where he came from may give insight to WHY he rapped about the things he rapped about, but it doesn't magically make the songs good or insightful.savebattery

ok im sorry but your a rap hatter.....hey listen to some of the music ok...some of his songs gives me the chills to what he raps about (i dont even like rap)

Buddy Holly?

Jimi Hendrix?

Ian Curtis?

nujabes(who died this year) and jimi hendrix

Here's a couple more which I was too young to experience, but definitely had huge impacts on the music industry.

Marvin Gaye --- shot to death by his father at age 44

Sam Cooke --- shot to death by motel mananger at age 33.

Otis Redding --- died in plane crash at age 26, one month before (Sittin on) the Dock of the Bay was released.

Charlie Parker --- died at age 34 of pneumonia

John Coltrane --- died at age 40 from liver cancer

Lee Morgan --- shot to death at age 33 by wife who thought he was cheating on her

Clifford Brown --- died in car accident at age 25

Eric Dolphy --- died at age 36... cause of death is still debated today but he died is the hospital after collapsing

Jaco Pasotrius --- beaten to death at age 35

I've always wondered what music would be like right now if Cobain were still alive.

adv_tr00per

More or less the same.

For me, Brahms - although at least he lived to a respectable age. There are others who wrote brilliant music in their late 20s and then died in their early 30s (like Schubert and Mozart). Given the quality of their "late" works, it would have been nice to see where they would have ended up. But Brahms was the last of the great traditionalists when it came to composition, and although some composers like Barber and R. Strauss have managed to write works in a similarly successful vein, Brahms's death marked, for me, the end of the greatest period of musical composition in Western history.

For me, Brahms - although at least he lived to a respectable age. There are others who wrote brilliant music in their late 20s and then died in their early 30s (like Schubert and Mozart). Given the quality of their "late" works, it would have been nice to see where they would have ended up. But Brahms was the last of the great conservatives when it came to composition, and although some composers like Barber and R. Strauss have managed to write works in a similarly successful vein, Brahms's death marked, for me, the end of the greatest period of musical composition in Western history.

pianist

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For me, Brahms - although at least he lived to a respectable age. There are others who wrote brilliant music in their late 20s and then died in their early 30s (like Schubert and Mozart). Given the quality of their "late" works, it would have been nice to see where they would have ended up. But Brahms was the last of the great conservatives when it came to composition, and although some composers like Barber and R. Strauss have managed to write works in a similarly successful vein, Brahms's death marked, for me, the end of the greatest period of musical composition in Western history.

StopThePresses

Yeah, I have a problem. I keep moderating myself over and over... just can't stop!

mods please lock i created a new thread

dont want to crowd the board

For me, Brahms - although at least he lived to a respectable age. There are others who wrote brilliant music in their late 20s and then died in their early 30s (like Schubert and Mozart). Given the quality of their "late" works, it would have been nice to see where they would have ended up. But Brahms was the last of the great traditionalists when it came to composition, and although some composers like Barber and R. Strauss have managed to write works in a similarly successful vein, Brahms's death marked, for me, the end of the greatest period of musical composition in Western history.

pianist

Does Brahms hold the title of having the earliest recorded piece?

I can't recall if it were him or not...that would be plausible though, when did he die late 1800's/early 1900s?

Cobain. Mainly because that whole "scene" died for the most part without him. To see the progression Nirvana made from Bleach to In Untero, is still amazing. Would they have fizzled out, maybe. But would we have had the, for the most part, terrible 95'-00' or so of music if Nirvana was still making music and influencing new bands. It's a question I would have loved to know the answer to. And to the scores that think Nirvana is overrated, Nirvana & NWA totally changed musical tastes of millions (mostly around my age then, my late teens) when they both came out, they are the seminal bands of my lifetime.

Closed at OP's request.

Does Brahms hold the title of having the earliest recorded piece?

I can't recall if it were him or not...that would be plausible though, when did he die late 1800's/early 1900s?

Joshywaa

I have no idea. He died in 1897, and we have a cylinder recording from 1889 that includes his performance of one of the Hungarian Dances. But I don't know if that's the very first recording of a piece of music or not.