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I say legalize anything that is a drug in it's natural state, like marijuana/mushrooms/cacti, etc.
Leave anything illegal that has to be processed with drain cleaner and dangerous chemicals... cocaine, heroine, meth. If you have mushrooms and DMT extracted from grass, why do you need to be doing crappier drugs like coke where you don't even hallucinate? I guess on second thought you could even legalize those, or at least greatly reduce the penalty.
For the record I've never done any illegal drug / don't smoke / have only drank less than a dozen times.
[QUOTE="Avistann"][QUOTE="stupid4"]Most drugs can. Only weed should be legalized imo. Most drugs can what? I don't understand. Yes, because we really need more crack and meth head roaming the streets. There isn't already enough crime. Do you really think that if these drug were legal, the only people effected would be those doing them? You don't think it would just lead to more LSD fueled car chases that end in many deaths or more PCP fueled brawls that usually end in police officer deaths?People should be allowed to do what they want as long it does not harm other people in their community.
Neon-Tiger
None should be legal.
[QUOTE="stupid4"]
[QUOTE="Mr_Oblivio"]
Go ahead. Eat your shrooms and take your LSD. I'll be chillin listening to music and eating good tasting foodin my own atmosphere while you constantly become terrified of your own manifested thoughts in the form of flashbacks.
Mr_Oblivio
I can do both
I hope you know you'll be declared legally insane. Unless you already are.
How would you know if you somebody can function doing drugs? You have never done them apparently so you wouldn't know. I smoke weed once a week and do shrooms once in a blue moon and I'm going to be attending Brown University in the fall. I think I'm functioning.
Assuming we mean "legalized" as in "legalized and regulated", all of them.
That doesn't mean I think people should do those drugs. But the War on Drugs has been one of the biggest failures in the entirety of American history. There is evidence from all over that illegalizing drugs is not the thing to do if you want people to stop using them.
I'm sorry, but legalizing and regulating those substances is NOT the way to handle it. People are irresposible when it comes to substance abuse, and too many lives are ruined when it's hard to obtain. Making it readily available will only further ruin move lives. They're illegal for a reason, Gabu.Most drugs can what? I don't understand. Yes, because we really need more crack and meth head roaming the streets. There isn't already enough crime. Do you really think that if these drug were legal, the only people effected would be those doing them? You don't think it would just lead to more LSD fueled car chases that end in many deaths or more PCP fueled brawls that usually end in police officer deaths?[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"][QUOTE="Avistann"] Most drugs can. Only weed should be legalized imo.raven_squad
None should be legal.
The war on drugs is sure doing a good job getting officers killed.
[QUOTE="Mr_Oblivio"]
[QUOTE="stupid4"]
I can do both
stupid4
I hope you know you'll be declared legally insane. Unless you already are.
How would you know if you somebody can function doing drugs? You have never done them apparently so you wouldn't know. I smoke weed once a week and do shrooms once in a blue moon and I'm going to be attending Brown University in the fall. I think I'm functioning.
No, You see, Smoking weed is almost a requirement for going to Brown.Yes, because we really need more crack and meth head roaming the streets. There isn't already enough crime. Do you really think that if these drug were legal, the only people effected would be those doing them? You don't think it would just lead to more LSD fueled car chases that end in many deaths or more PCP fueled brawls that usually end in police officer deaths?[QUOTE="raven_squad"]
[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"] Most drugs can what? I don't understand.stupid4
None should be legal.
The war on drugs is sure doing a good job getting officers killed.
Yes, and it would only increase if they were legal.[QUOTE="stupid4"]
[QUOTE="Mr_Oblivio"]
Go ahead. Eat your shrooms and take your LSD. I'll be chillin listening to music and eating good tasting foodin my own atmosphere while you constantly become terrified of your own manifested thoughts in the form of flashbacks.
Mr_Oblivio
I can do both
I hope you know you'll be declared legally insane. Unless you already are.
Ok, now how about we try a bit of drug education? Go to erowid.org or even wikipedia and read the pages on shrooms, LSD, or any other hallucinogen. Come back after all your stupid myths are shattered by actual facts.[QUOTE="stupid4"][QUOTE="raven_squad"] Yes, because we really need more crack and meth head roaming the streets. There isn't already enough crime. Do you really think that if these drug were legal, the only people effected would be those doing them? You don't think it would just lead to more LSD fueled car chases that end in many deaths or more PCP fueled brawls that usually end in police officer deaths?
None should be legal.
raven_squad
The war on drugs is sure doing a good job getting officers killed.
Yes, and it would only increase if they were legal.No it would decrease vastly because the police would no longer have to deal with destroying drug empires.
[QUOTE="raven_squad"] Yes, because we really need more crack and meth head roaming the streets. There isn't already enough crime. Do you really think that if these drug were legal, the only people effected would be those doing them? You don't think it would just lead to more LSD fueled car chases that end in many deaths or more PCP fueled brawls that usually end in police officer deaths?
None should be legal.
The war on drugs is sure doing a good job getting officers killed.
Yes, and it would only increase if they were legal. Oh no they wouldn't be quiet.. How the hell do you think Capone got so powerful? Because Alcohol could be illegally made and sold for a fortune.. Now this is certainly not saying that legalizing all drugs is correct.. But the War on Drugs has failed epically and is a hole for money.[QUOTE="Mr_Oblivio"]
[QUOTE="stupid4"]
I can do both
stupid4
I hope you know you'll be declared legally insane. Unless you already are.
How would you know if you somebody can function doing drugs? You have never done them apparently so you wouldn't know. I smoke weed once a week and do shrooms once in a blue moon and I'm going to be attending Brown University in the fall. I think I'm functioning.
I've tried shrooms and meth.Don't be quick to judge.But I only approve of weed, as weed doesn't have long term affects that are as drastic as the rest.
[QUOTE="stupid4"][QUOTE="Mr_Oblivio"]
I hope you know you'll be declared legally insane. Unless you already are.
Locke562
How would you know if you somebody can function doing drugs? You have never done them apparently so you wouldn't know. I smoke weed once a week and do shrooms once in a blue moon and I'm going to be attending Brown University in the fall. I think I'm functioning.
No, You see, Smoking weed is almost a requirement for going to Brown.And this is why I picked Brown over Dartmouth lol.
Assuming we mean "legalized" as in "legalized and regulated", all of them.
That doesn't mean I think people should do those drugs. But the War on Drugs has been one of the biggest failures in the entirety of American history. There is evidence from all over that illegalizing drugs is not the thing to do if you want people to stop using them.
I'm sorry, but legalizing and regulating those substances is NOT the way to handle it. People are irresposible when it comes to substance abuse, and too many lives are ruined when it's hard to obtain. Making it readily available will only further ruin move lives. They're illegal for a reason, Gabu. Here's a little news for you, every single drug from marijuana to meth and crack are readily available. I don't see why people think making drugs illegal makes them go away. It only makes them more readily available.[QUOTE="stupid4"][QUOTE="raven_squad"] Yes, because we really need more crack and meth head roaming the streets. There isn't already enough crime. Do you really think that if these drug were legal, the only people effected would be those doing them? You don't think it would just lead to more LSD fueled car chases that end in many deaths or more PCP fueled brawls that usually end in police officer deaths?
None should be legal.
raven_squad
The war on drugs is sure doing a good job getting officers killed.
Yes, and it would only increase if they were legal. When Marijuana was legalized in the Netherlands Hard Drug use declined.[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="stupid4"]
The war on drugs is sure doing a good job getting officers killed.
Yes, and it would only increase if they were legal. Oh no they wouldn't be quiet.. How the hell do you think Capone got so powerful? Because Alcohol could be illegally made and sold for a fortune.. Now this is certainly not saying that legalizing all drugs is correct.. But the War on Drugs has failed epically and is a hole for money. Sorry, quit reading when you told me to be quiet. Ill say what I want to.Yes, and it would only increase if they were legal.[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="stupid4"]
The war on drugs is sure doing a good job getting officers killed.
stupid4
No it would decrease vastly because the police would no longer have to deal with destroying drug empires.
No, they would be dealing with vastly increased amount of violent crime that would be occuring thanks to the extra crack and meth heads running around.[QUOTE="Avistann"] Ok well lets use this as an example. This is a bit extreme but humor me. A man is low on money but really wants some more meth, his friend has some. He needs it badly and decides to steal it but his friend is at the apartment when he steals it. A big fight ensues and he kills his friend. How does that not affect community? Yes I know people fight over tons of them and killings happen but deaths over drugs happen more.Neon-TigerThat is happening right now with the drugs being illegal. And they are already into the meth. What people need to learn is how to stay away of messed up crap like meth and heroine. The drug being legal or not is irrelevant.
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[QUOTE="Avistann"] Ok well lets use this as an example. This is a bit extreme but humor me. A man is low on money but really wants some more meth, his friend has some. He needs it badly and decides to steal it but his friend is at the apartment when he steals it. A big fight ensues and he kills his friend. How does that not affect community? Yes I know people fight over tons of them and killings happen but deaths over drugs happen more.Neon-TigerThat is happening right now with the drugs being illegal. And they are already into the meth. What people need to learn is how to stay away of messed up crap like meth and heroine. The drug being legal or not is irrelevant. I agree people need to learn how to stay away from messed up crap like that but people REFUSE to. That is when police and drug awareness programs come into play. I know it happens with it being illegal but at least with it being illegal, the removal of the drug is being fought for. It is better then giving up and letting the drug world win, some of that stuff does not belong out for the public. Maybe one day we can completely get rid of some drugs for now I think it should still be fought for,
I'm sorry, but legalizing and regulating those substances is NOT the way to handle it. People are irresposible when it comes to substance abuse, and too many lives are ruined when it's hard to obtain. Making it readily available will only further ruin move lives. They're illegal for a reason, Gabu.JustPlainLucas
The Netherlands has hadmarijuana legal for a while; its marijuana usage rates are about half of the United States', and combating the "gateway drug" line, its heroin usage rates are also about a third of the United States'. A study also revealed that usage did not increase following the legalization, and in fact usage of harder drugs decreased.
Also, Switzerland instituted a while back a policy of medicating heroin addicts with heroin to monitor the effects of such a thing. The results might be surprising: the usage rates of heroin in the country decreased, leading some to theorize that this was because it was now seen as a medical problem than as something with which to rebel against "the Man".
And we all know how well Prohibition went, too.
The bottom line is that there's no evidence whatsoever in favor of the idea that the illegalization of drugs has any of the effects its proponents desire, whereas there is plenty of evidence in favor of legalization as having positive ramifications in pretty well every part of the problem. I can understandwhat proponents of drugs' illegality base their views on - drug addiction is a terrible thing -but it's a purely emotional reaction, not one grounded in any fact and not one that will actually produce the results people want. Keeping drugs illegal does not help anything, whereas keeping drugs legal would:
- remove a critical source of funding for organized crime and terrorism
- allow drug use and addictionto be treated medically, not criminally
- bring in large amounts of government revenue by their regulated sale
- and if the above studies are to be believed, reduce the overall levels of drug use
marijuana should be legalized for people that have certain medical conditions, hell the federal still supplies marijuana to people that were on their medical marijuana program from 1978. It started with 30 people, but now is down to about 7 the last time I checked. Coming from the city where meth is use is #1 in the USA, meth is probably the scariest drug ever, people just go psychotic on that stuff. How many people here actually passed D.A.R.E?M-E-S-S
I won the D.A.R.E. essay contest when I was in 5th grade.
I'm guessing you live in Jefferson County in Missouri. I'm from St. Louis.
No! Not again!Locke562
oh god!:o its happening again.......*shoots self*sAndroid17I don't get it :?
[QUOTE="M-E-S-S"]marijuana should be legalized for people that have certain medical conditions, hell the federal still supplies marijuana to people that were on their medical marijuana program from 1978. It started with 30 people, but now is down to about 7 the last time I checked. Coming from the city where meth is use is #1 in the USA, meth is probably the scariest drug ever, people just go psychotic on that stuff. How many people here actually passed D.A.R.E?stupid4
I won the D.A.R.E. essay contest when I was in 5th grade.
I'm guessing you live in Jefferson County in Missouri. I'm from St. Louis.
Naw, I'm from Las Vegas, I remember reading meth use here is #1 as of last year. Not surprising though, Las Vegas is a 24 hour city...Given that 1g of LSD would be enough to get 40,000 people tripping, its potential as a chemical weapon should keep it pretty high up on the scheduled substances list.jimmyjammer69even though it is an incredibley strong drug, it's still one of the least toxic chemicals on the planet, less toxic than aspirin or vitamin c...
I'm sorry, but legalizing and regulating those substances is NOT the way to handle it. People are irresposible when it comes to substance abuse, and too many lives are ruined when it's hard to obtain. Making it readily available will only further ruin move lives. They're illegal for a reason, Gabu.JustPlainLucasThen maybe people should start being a bit more responsible and educated on the matter.
[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Given that 1g of LSD would be enough to get 40,000 people tripping, its potential as a chemical weapon should keep it pretty high up on the scheduled substances list.M-E-S-Seven though it is an incredibley strong drug, it's still one of the least toxic chemicals on the planet, less toxic than aspirin or vitamin c... Yes, but imagine dropping an LSD bomb on an enemy base, everyone tripping and wreaking havoc... Oh the potential.
[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Given that 1g of LSD would be enough to get 40,000 people tripping, its potential as a chemical weapon should keep it pretty high up on the scheduled substances list.M-E-S-Seven though it is an incredibley strong drug, it's still one of the least toxic chemicals on the planet, less toxic than aspirin or vitamin c... It's capable of causing paranoia, disassociation and intense hallucinations. It can be absorbed through the skin in minute quantities. I'm not comparing it to anthrax, but a resourceful sociopath could wreak enormous havock with a small quantity of LSD.
[QUOTE="M-E-S-S"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Given that 1g of LSD would be enough to get 40,000 people tripping, its potential as a chemical weapon should keep it pretty high up on the scheduled substances list.jimmyjammer69even though it is an incredibley strong drug, it's still one of the least toxic chemicals on the planet, less toxic than aspirin or vitamin c... It's capable of causing paranoia, disassociation and intense hallucinations. It can be absorbed through the skin in minute quantities. I'm not comparing it to anthrax, but a resourceful sociopath could wreak enormous havock with a small quantity of LSD. 1 gram is a relatively large quantity of LSD.
[QUOTE="M-E-S-S"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Given that 1g of LSD would be enough to get 40,000 people tripping, its potential as a chemical weapon should keep it pretty high up on the scheduled substances list.Neon-Tigereven though it is an incredibley strong drug, it's still one of the least toxic chemicals on the planet, less toxic than aspirin or vitamin c... Yes, but imagine dropping an LSD bomb on an enemy base, everyone tripping and wreaking havoc... Oh the potential. Oh the enlistments. Long hair is the new short hair.
Assuming we mean "legalized" as in "legalized and regulated", all of them.
That doesn't mean I think people should do those drugs. But the War on Drugs has been one of the biggest failures in the entirety of American history. There is evidence from all over that illegalizing drugs is not the thing to do if you want people to stop using them.
I'm sorry, but legalizing and regulating those substances is NOT the way to handle it. People are irresposible when it comes to substance abuse, and too many lives are ruined when it's hard to obtain. Making it readily available will only further ruin move lives. They're illegal for a reason, Gabu. Here's a little news for you, every single drug from marijuana to meth and crack are readily available. I don't see why people think making drugs illegal makes them go away. It only makes them more readily available. Here's a little news for you. I can't get any of that because I do'nt know any drug dealers. Readily avaiable means somethig you can walk into a store and buy.[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Given that 1g of LSD would be enough to get 40,000 people tripping, its potential as a chemical weapon should keep it pretty high up on the scheduled substances list.M-E-S-Seven though it is an incredibley strong drug, it's still one of the least toxic chemicals on the planet, less toxic than aspirin or vitamin c... No it's not. According to Erowid,alethal dosage of LSD is 12,000 ug. Standard dosages of aspirin and vitamin C are much higher.
Legalize them all. People should know how to take care of themselves, and the ones who do drugs in a moderate and responsible way (I know this is a shocking idea for some of you but it's very possible) should not be punished.Neon-TigerThis. Applies to everything as well, not just drugs.
[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]I'm sorry, but legalizing and regulating those substances is NOT the way to handle it. People are irresposible when it comes to substance abuse, and too many lives are ruined when it's hard to obtain. Making it readily available will only further ruin move lives. They're illegal for a reason, Gabu.GabuEx
The Netherlands has hadmarijuana legal for a while; its marijuana usage rates are about half of the United States', and combating the "gateway drug" line, its heroin usage rates are also about a third of the United States'. A study also revealed that usage did not increase following the legalization, and in fact usage of harder drugs decreased.
Also, Switzerland instituted a while back a policy of medicating heroin addicts with heroin to monitor the effects of such a thing. The results might be surprising: the usage rates of heroin in the country decreased, leading some to theorize that this was because it was now seen as a medical problem than as something with which to rebel against "the Man".
And we all know how well Prohibition went, too.
The bottom line is that there's no evidence whatsoever in favor of the idea that the illegalization of drugs has any of the effects its proponents desire, whereas there is plenty of evidence in favor of legalization as having positive ramifications in pretty well every part of the problem. I can understandwhat proponents of drugs' illegality base their views on - drug addiction is a terrible thing -but it's a purely emotional reaction, not one grounded in any fact and not one that will actually produce the results people want. Keeping drugs illegal does not help anything, whereas keeping drugs legal would:
- remove a critical source of funding for organized crime and terrorism
- allow drug use and addictionto be treated medically, not criminally
- bring in large amounts of government revenue by their regulated sale
- and if the above studies are to be believed, reduce the overall levels of drug use
If you've seen a friend OD, or waste his life away on chemicals, perhaps you don't want to see that theory tested here in the states. Sorry Gabu, I understand you're trying to establish a debate here, but I honestly don't want to see someone ruin their life by WALKING INTO A STORE AND BUYING DRUGS.Please Log In to post.
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