Which film rating system do you like best?

I would like to know which film rating system you like best for reviews!!

(And yes that is the maximum price in Australia for a student ticket. $14.50. Seriously...)

Have a good New Year men!!

From what you posted, I choose words without stars or anything. But I like movie and game reviews to have a number, 1-10.

From what you posted, I choose words without stars or anything. But I like movie and game reviews to have a number, 1-10.

Baranga

Basically this...except in addition i'd like a recommendation (see it, play it, rent it etc...)

0-10 stars. AKA: IMDb.

One with no rating over 12 yrs.

Then I could see Watchmen...

0-5 stars.

One with no rating over 12 yrs.

Then I could see Watchmen...

My_other_leaf

I like the star and the see it-rent it system.

I prefer 0-4 stars.

I don't read reviews of art. Books, films, video games, music, etc. It's all subjective.savebattery

One with no rating over 12 yrs.

Then I could see Watchmen...

My_other_leaf

My friend, I believe you were just confused into revealing that you are not old enough to post here.

From what you posted, I choose words without stars or anything. But I like movie and game reviews to have a number, 1-10.

Baranga

Definitely this. Don't get me wrong, 0-5 works good too, but I don't like having a game/film that isn't a 5, but 4is a bit of an understatement.With 0-10 you have twice the options!

I use the grading system (A, B, C, D, F)

Well, if I HAD to pick only one option, I'd pick words with no stars. Because giving a movie 2 stars or a 91% rating doesn't really mean ANYTHING. Doesn't tell me anyting about the actual movie, whether it's that movie's flaws or the movie's strength.

The words are ALWAYS the meat of the review. Everything else is just bones and fat.

Still, on the other hand, sometimes I like a little bit of fat to go along with my meat. Sometimes I only bother to read a view because it is getting ridiculously low scores, and I want to see some often humorous reviews in which critics tear it to shreds. Likewise, sometimes there'll be a new movie coming out that I didn't have any interest. But then I'll glance by Rotten Tomatoes and see that the movie has a "87% Fresh" Status. That still doesn't tell me anything about the movie, but it might just get me interested. So I read a few reviews, and maybe i'll actually decide to see the movie and love it.

So...I actually like a mix. Things sauch as "thumbs up" or letter grades may get me interested enough to read reviews. But aside from that, the actual text in a review is the ONLY thing that matters.

[QUOTE="savebattery"]I don't read reviews of art. Books, films, video games, music, etc. It's all subjective.biggest_loser

From what you posted, I choose words without stars or anything. But I like movie and game reviews to have a number, 1-10.

Baranga

I agree with this.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"]I don't read reviews of art. Books, films, video games, music, etc. It's all subjective.savebattery

Reviews, should NOT be "all subjective".

An example of an "all subjective" review would be something like "This movie sucks! I hate it!"

Thankfully, nearly all reviewers do a LOT more than merely give "subjective opinions". Art criticism is certainly extremely dependant on opinion, but that's not all there is. Not by a long shot.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"]I don't read reviews of art. Books, films, video games, music, etc. It's all subjective.savebattery

0-5 stars.

[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"] It is but consider it like a pre-warning for what is worth while.

MrGeezer

Reviews, should NOT be "all subjective".

An example of an "all subjective" review would be something like "This movie sucks! I hate it!"

Thankfully, nearly all reviewers do a LOT more than merely give "subjective opinions". Art criticism is certainly extremely dependant on opinion, but that's not all there is. Not by a long shot.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"] A warning from an unreliable source is useless.savebattery

Reviews, should NOT be "all subjective".

An example of an "all subjective" review would be something like "This movie sucks! I hate it!"

Thankfully, nearly all reviewers do a LOT more than merely give "subjective opinions". Art criticism is certainly extremely dependant on opinion, but that's not all there is. Not by a long shot.

That might be the case if there weren't reviews which explained the reasons WHY the reviewers liked or hated the movie.

[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Reviews, should NOT be "all subjective".

An example of an "all subjective" review would be something like "This movie sucks! I hate it!"

Thankfully, nearly all reviewers do a LOT more than merely give "subjective opinions". Art criticism is certainly extremely dependant on opinion, but that's not all there is. Not by a long shot.

MrGeezer

That might be the case if there weren't reviews which explained the reasons WHY the reviewers liked or hated the movie.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"] Films have objective qualities, but the importance of said qualities is determined by the viewer and it is thus a moot point. savebattery

That might be the case if there weren't reviews which explained the reasons WHY the reviewers liked or hated the movie.

That's why art criticism should strive to reach a balance between objectivity and subjectivy.

And might add that if you're only interested in seeing viewpoints that are compatible with your own, that you have no business talking about art criticism.

What do you think is the fundamental POINT of art criticism?

What do you think is the fundamental POINT of art criticism?MrGeezer

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]What do you think is the fundamental POINT of art criticism?savebattery

Notice how you never even mentioned, "to provide a more informed and well-reaoned perspective on this particular work of art".

[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]What do you think is the fundamental POINT of art criticism?MrGeezer

Notice how you never even mentioned, "to provide a more informed and well-reaoned perspective on this particular work of art".

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"] 1. To make money. (see Gamespot, IGN) 2. To act like your tastes are more refined than someone else's because you get paid to offer your opinion. 3. To act like your tastes are more refined than someone else's because your opinion is compatible with that of someone who gets paid to offer his. 4. To suppress ideas you don't like.savebattery

Notice how you never even mentioned, "to provide a more informed and well-reaoned perspective on this particular work of art".

An extremely cliched and worthless statement.

A hell of a lot of people refuse to read reviews until AFTER seeing movies and forming their own judgements about them.

It might not be two-way, but reviews are ABSOLUTELY a form of art communication. The viewer can form his own opinions independently, then read reviews in order to have an open-minded willingness to other points of view. Rgardless of whether or not he sway's the REVIEWER'S opinion, reading the reviewer's opinion may ABSOLUTELY help the reader to think about the moviem from another perspective.

It's an idea, one which the reader can discard or accept at will. But it doesn't suddenly become less valid or less true simply because the reviewer isn't there to personally yell into the reader's face for disagreeing.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]What do you think is the fundamental POINT of art criticism?savebattery

1. To make money. (see Gamespot, IGN) 2. To act like your tastes are more refined than someone else's because you get paid to offer your opinion. 3. To act like your tastes are more refined than someone else's because your opinion is compatible with that of someone who gets paid to offer his. 4. To suppress ideas you don't like.

1. Well it is a job. What do you expect?

2. If you actually read some reviews you'd realise there is no attempt to say that their opinion is better than someone elses.

3. Not all critics agree. Everything is subjective.

4. I have no idea what you mean by suppressing ideas? Suppressing ideas in a film? Its just how they respond to it. They're entitled to express their opinion.

"Part of what the critic does is stand betweeen these lying studios and the gullible public".

You gain perspective through experience and two-way communication (read: discussions and debates). Reviews are for people who cannot think for themselves, and want someone else to decide for them what movies they like.savebattery

Really? Even if the person you're "debating" with is uninformed and ignorant?

I guess reading literature is also "for people who cannot think for themselves", seeing as how it's not a two-way conversation.