which is better? old star wars vs new star wars

Come on, dude... Jar Jar alone should be reason enough that the new Star Wars sucks compared to the original trilogy.

Old-school Stars Wars is better, before it was remastered.KG86

See what i mean about blind hatred towards the Prequels? This can largely be contributed to the "Nostalgia Factor" and the "Prequel Factor". There's also the fact that the people who saw the originals in the Theater were much younger, and now are older and thus the Star Wars Franchise appeals to them less. They may not realize it, but the OT too was designed for kids/teens. They may still like the OT merely because of the Nostalgia factor and when they watch it it brings up old feelings.Tolwan

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]See what i mean about blind hatred towards the Prequels? This can largely be contributed to the "Nostalgia Factor" and the "Prequel Factor". There's also the fact that the people who saw the originals in the Theater were much younger, and now are older and thus the Star Wars Franchise appeals to them less. They may not realize it, but the OT too was designed for kids/teens. They may still like the OT merely because of the Nostalgia factor and when they watch it it brings up old feelings.dooly420

I already went over many positive points with the NT in a previous post. However Suffice it to say, many "OT'ers" live in a land of nostalgia. We're talking about people who are pissed that lucas added in the Jabba the Hutt scene in ANH. A Scene *ORIGINALLY INTENDED* to be in the movie in the first place. Can't take those kind of people seriously. I like all of the movies pretty equally, both trilogies have weaknesses and strengths. Unfortuanatly, too many people wanted Han Solo 2.0, model ships, and the Galactic Empire, missing the whole premise of the prequels (Which was even stated in the OT as being the prime of the republic and the Jedi Order).

Most statistics say that 1 in 4 people are mentally impaired in some way. Look at the poll and it seems to perfectly reflect that :P

Regardless, the new Star Wars movies were better in just about every better way other than special effects and action. There were far more memorable lines ("that's no moon!"), and even the lines that weren't very good were pulled off a lot better than in the new movies. A good example would be when Luke Skywalker says to Obi-Wan "You mean you were in the clone wars!?", that's a line that you should be laughing at because, well, it's rediculous. But it's just done in such a way so that you can look past that. The older movies just have a well-done charm effect to them.

The new trilogy, however, has no charm, no emotional connection. The dialogue is incredibly badly written, and badly pulled off ("You're smooth and kind, unlike sand, which is rough and get's everywhere..." Oh my god, who writes this crap!?). The only thing they have going for them is good special effects and faster action sequences.

[QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="Tolwan"]See what i mean about blind hatred towards the Prequels? This can largely be contributed to the "Nostalgia Factor" and the "Prequel Factor". There's also the fact that the people who saw the originals in the Theater were much younger, and now are older and thus the Star Wars Franchise appeals to them less. They may not realize it, but the OT too was designed for kids/teens. They may still like the OT merely because of the Nostalgia factor and when they watch it it brings up old feelings.Tolwan

I already went over many positive points with the NT in a previous post. However Suffice it to say, many "OT'ers" live in a land of nostalgia. We're talking about people who are pissed that lucas added in the Jabba the Hutt scene in ANH. A Scene *ORIGINALLY INTENDED* to be in the movie in the first place. Can't take those kind of people seriously. I like all of the movies pretty equally, both trilogies have weaknesses and strengths. Unfortuanatly, too many people wanted Han Solo 2.0, model ships, and the Galactic Empire, missing the whole premise of the prequels (Which was even stated in the OT as being the prime of the republic and the Jedi Order).

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[QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="Tolwan"]See what i mean about blind hatred towards the Prequels? This can largely be contributed to the "Nostalgia Factor" and the "Prequel Factor". There's also the fact that the people who saw the originals in the Theater were much younger, and now are older and thus the Star Wars Franchise appeals to them less. They may not realize it, but the OT too was designed for kids/teens. They may still like the OT merely because of the Nostalgia factor and when they watch it it brings up old feelings.dooly420

I already went over many positive points with the NT in a previous post. However Suffice it to say, many "OT'ers" live in a land of nostalgia. We're talking about people who are pissed that lucas added in the Jabba the Hutt scene in ANH. A Scene *ORIGINALLY INTENDED* to be in the movie in the first place. Can't take those kind of people seriously. I like all of the movies pretty equally, both trilogies have weaknesses and strengths. Unfortuanatly, too many people wanted Han Solo 2.0, model ships, and the Galactic Empire, missing the whole premise of the prequels (Which was even stated in the OT as being the prime of the republic and the Jedi Order).

You're being heavily presumptuous. I never said the prequels were better, i said they were on Part with the OT. With as many hit and miss scenes as the OT. Hardcore fans of the originals is the primary problem of their hatred of the NT, because of the fact that they are "Hardcore fans". I am a fan of all of the star wars movies, i enjoyed the prequels in the theater just as much as i enjoyed the OT. Too many OT'ers were expecting things "There Way" in the OT, which is an impossible expectation to meet. Unfortuanatly, as is the nature of prequels, it's hard to avoid people being heavily presumptuous and having strict expectations of them.

Futhermore, as i said, there is the "Nostalgia Factor" that plays heavily into why there are NT Haters. However, that said, there are still many people who like the NT, and RotS actually outperformed much of the OT in the box-office.

So...I know this is a couple pages back now, but it was just too fun to read :oops:

I won't reply to the other fella because...well, those quotes would be huge and no one is going to budge anyways. I am going to point out though, that I think the prequel side has better arguments from it's posters. Even the ex-mod just came up with the typical Jar Jar "argument". It's usually either that or 'they just are', in one form or another. If Jar Jar or CGI is all you've got, then I think it'll be hard to take it seriously. I enjoyed reading the quoteback on the 2nd page though. THAT was a discusion.

Not touching the Hayden topic again though, that got hot!! :o Would like to mention, though, to those attacking the acting in the prequels, that the originals had terrible acting. Everywhere. McGuiness was a good actor, but his heart wasn't really in it, you can find quotes from him anywhere on the internet where he admitted to forcing his lines out because they were so awful. Ford was heads and shoulders above the rest. That is, piles of heads on top of piles of shoulders. Hamill was okay, but the intense moments, like "No! That's IMPOSSIBLE!"...sorry but Hayen's intense moments were way better. WAY better. I can't help but laugh when Luke tries to look hurt or troubled, whereas Anakin looked like he would jump out of the screen and cut my *$#!ing head off.

i prefer the new trilogy. the tranformation of Anakin to Vader > tranformation of poor boy Luke to Jedi Skywalker imoindian_playa

same, it would be one of the greatest twists ever if I havent seen 4,5,6 before 1,2,3

I have to agree that the PT haters are stuck on nostalgia. The original trilogy, while definitely classic, was not flawless. My two favorite complaints:

The original films had horrible dialog and several bad actors.

ANACHRONISM - ANH takes place twenty years after the rise of Darth Vader, yet both Vader and Kenobi are played by 60-year old actors.

Another thing I need to address. Someone in this thread said the PT lacks emotion and character depth. I wonder if he actually saw the PT. I think the characters' back stories were well developed. TPM had great storytelling, not oscar-worthy, but hey, it was only the setup for a trilogy. AotC had some great action scenes and was a bit intriguing. There was a bit of suspense and anticipation built up for this one after hearing references to the Clone Wars in the OT. And who can deny how awesome it was the first time Yoda drew his lightsaber?

As for RotS, anyone who says this movie wasn't deep or emotional needs to lay off the crack rocks. The dialog between Anakin and Padme could have been better written, but the circumstances around their relationship effected the overall story in an immersing way. And there were several scenes that had me on the edge of my seat. When Anakin attacked the younglings, my heart jumped into my throat. The scenes depicting the assassinations of the Jedi invoke an emotional reaction, as well as an adrenaline rush. There was tremendous anticipation preceding Obi-Won's battle with Anakin (20 years waiting). And Obi-Won's speech after defeating him was almost a tear jerker.

I'm going to put my response this way 5>4>3>6>1>2

If it wasn't for then Ewoks old would of had a clean sweep...

Nerds arguing against Nerds.....

Let teh games begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!