White House Will Not Support SOPA and PIPA

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#1 _R34LiTY_
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Internet users rejoice!!! For now....

Saturday marked a major victory for opponents of proposed anti-piracy legislation Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and PROTECT IP Act (PIPA), which would target foreign-based websites violating U.S. copyrights.

House of Representatives bill SOPA and its Senate counterpart PIPA are designed to punish websites that make available, for example, free movies and music without the permission of the U.S. rights holders. Opponents of the bills, however, worry that the proposed laws would grant the Department of Justice too much regulatory power. Google Chairman Eric Schmidt has called the measures "draconian." Other Internet giants who oppose the bill include Facebook, eBay, Mozilla, Twitter, and Huffington Post parent company AOL.

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This is not the end of the debate, the White House statement emphasized. "Moving forward, we will continue to work with Congress on a bipartisan basis on legislation that provides new tools needed in the global fight against piracy and counterfeiting, while vigorously defending an open Internet based on the values of free expression, privacy, security and innovation," the letter also read.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/14/white-house-sopa-pipa_n_1206347.htmlHuffington Post

Some remain skeptical as to how heartfelt this new stance against SOPA & PIPA is. Not because Obama also mentioned he would not renew the Patriot Act and ended up renewing it anyways, but because it's "Huffington Post", which I understand is considered a 'tabloid' news agency depending on who's reading their reports.

In any event, we can only imagine what the "revised legislation" will propose.

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Internet users rejoice!!! For now....

[quote="Huffington Post"]Saturday marked a major victory for opponents of proposed anti-piracy legislation Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and PROTECT IP Act (PIPA), which would target foreign-based websites violating U.S. copyrights.

House of Representatives bill SOPA and its Senate counterpart PIPA are designed to punish websites that make available, for example, free movies and music without the permission of the U.S. rights holders. Opponents of the bills, however, worry that the proposed laws would grant the Department of Justice too much regulatory power. Google Chairman Eric Schmidt has called the measures "draconian." Other Internet giants who oppose the bill include Facebook, eBay, Mozilla, Twitter, and Huffington Post parent company AOL.

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This is not the end of the debate, the White House statement emphasized. "Moving forward, we will continue to work with Congress on a bipartisan basis on legislation that provides new tools needed in the global fight against piracy and counterfeiting, while vigorously defending an open Internet based on the values of free expression, privacy, security and innovation," the letter also read.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/14/white-house-sopa-pipa_n_1206347.html_R34LiTY_

Some remain skeptical as to how heartfelt this new on the stance against SOPA & PIPA. Not because Obama also mentioned he would not renew the Patriot Act and ended up renewing it anyways, but because it's "Huffington Post", which I understand is considered a 'tabloid' news agency depending on who's reading their reports.

In any event, we can only imagine what the "revised legislation" will propose.

White House claims that the new legislation will be directed towards sites that are beyond the reach of US law. Basically they implied foreign sites for piracy or whatever.
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Internet users rejoice!!! For now....

[quote="Huffington Post"]Saturday marked a major victory for opponents of proposed anti-piracy legislation Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and PROTECT IP Act (PIPA), which would target foreign-based websites violating U.S. copyrights.

House of Representatives bill SOPA and its Senate counterpart PIPA are designed to punish websites that make available, for example, free movies and music without the permission of the U.S. rights holders. Opponents of the bills, however, worry that the proposed laws would grant the Department of Justice too much regulatory power. Google Chairman Eric Schmidt has called the measures "draconian." Other Internet giants who oppose the bill include Facebook, eBay, Mozilla, Twitter, and Huffington Post parent company AOL.

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This is not the end of the debate, the White House statement emphasized. "Moving forward, we will continue to work with Congress on a bipartisan basis on legislation that provides new tools needed in the global fight against piracy and counterfeiting, while vigorously defending an open Internet based on the values of free expression, privacy, security and innovation," the letter also read.

...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/14/white-house-sopa-pipa_n_1206347.html_R34LiTY_

Some remain skeptical as to how heartfelt this new on the stance against SOPA & PIPA. Not because Obama also mentioned he would not renew the Patriot Act and ended up renewing it anyways, but because it's "Huffington Post", which I understand is considered a 'tabloid' news agency depending on who's reading their reports.

In any event, we can only imagine what the "revised legislation" will propose.

Hmm wasn't there another article saying it would only remove the DNS part of SOPA? To be honest, I wish the whole bill would be abolished altogether
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Reelection year is coming up, of course not.
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I should bookmark this just to bump it when they inevitably do sign the bills into law, or a very similar version of it. But the truth is I really don't care. I hope everything goes to hell so I can at least be alive when some big change happened in the world.
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#6 angeldeb82
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Well, we're wondering if the White House can support the OPEN Act, an act that can track down online piracy and infringement without harming the Internet.
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#7 scorch-62
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This is fantastic news! I knew Obama stood for something the moment he came out against NDAA. This is only a good thing.
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The Huffington Post is full of **** That's not what the white house note said.

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This is fantastic news! I knew Obama stood for something the moment he came out against NDAA. This is only a good thing.scorch-62
Didnt he sign NDAA into law?
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"]This is fantastic news! I knew Obama stood for something the moment he came out against NDAA. This is only a good thing.sonicare
Didnt he sign NDAA into law?

I think your sarcasm detector is faulty. :P
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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]This is fantastic news! I knew Obama stood for something the moment he came out against NDAA. This is only a good thing.Sajo7
Didnt he sign NDAA into law?

I think your sarcasm detector is faulty. :P

I'm heavily inebriated at the moment, so my judgement may be incredibly flawed. I just hope I dont wake up next to any fat chicks.
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Didn't Obama say that he would not veto the law if it passed? Whatever. All I know is that he isn't getting my vote if he supports it.
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Didn't Obama say that he would not veto the law if it passed? Whatever. All I know is that he isn't getting my vote if he supports it.stanleycup98
Just promise me you wont vote for rick perry.
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[QUOTE="stanleycup98"]Didn't Obama say that he would not veto the law if it passed? Whatever. All I know is that he isn't getting my vote if he supports it.sonicare
Just promise me you wont vote for rick perry.

I can't make that promise
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The whole response I received this morning after signing the online petition against SOPA.

Combating Online Piracy while Protecting an Open and Innovative Internet By Victoria Espinel, Aneesh Chopra, and Howard Schmidt

Thanks for taking the time to sign this petition. Both your words and actions illustrate the importance of maintaining an open and democratic Internet. Right now, Congress is debating a few pieces of legislation concerning the very real issue of online piracy, including the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), the Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA) and the Online Protection and Digital ENforcement Act (OPEN). We want to take this opportunity to tell you what the Administration will support-and what we will not support. Any effective legislation should reflect a wide range of stakeholders, including everyone from content creators to the engineers that build and maintain the infrastructure of the Internet.

While we believe that online piracy by foreign websites is a serious problem that requires a serious legislative response, we will not support legislation that reduces freedom of expression, increases cybersecurity risk, or undermines the dynamic, innovative global Internet.

Any effort to combat online piracy must guard against the risk of online censorship of lawful activity and must not inhibit innovation by our dynamic businesses large and small. Across the globe, the openness of the Internet is increasingly central to innovation in business, government, and society and it must be protected. To minimize this risk, new legislation must be narrowly targeted only at sites beyond the reach of current U.S. law, cover activity clearly prohibited under existing U.S. laws, and be effectively tailored, with strong due process and focused on criminal activity. Any provision covering Internet intermediaries such as online advertising networks, payment processors, or search engines must be transparent and designed to prevent overly broad private rights of action that could encourage unjustified litigation that could discourage startup businesses and innovative firms from growing.

We must avoid creating new cybersecurity risks or disrupting the underlying architecture of the Internet. Proposed laws must not tamper with the technical architecture of the Internet through manipulation of the Domain Name System (DNS), a foundation of Internet security. Our analysis of the DNS filtering provisions in some proposed legislation suggests that they pose a real risk to cybersecurity and yet leave contraband goods and services accessible online. We must avoid legislation that drives users to dangerous, unreliable DNS servers and puts next-generation security policies, such as the deployment of DNSSEC, at risk.

Let us be clear-online piracy is a real problem that harms the American economy, threatens jobs for significant numbers of middle class workers and hurts some of our nation's most creative and innovative companies and entrepreneurs. It harms everyone from struggling artists to production crews, and from startup social media companies to large movie studios. While we are strongly committed to the vigorous enforcement of intellectual property rights, existing tools are not strong enough to root out the worst online pirates beyond our borders. That is why the Administration calls on all sides to work together to pass sound legislation this year that provides prosecutors and rights holders new legal tools to combat online piracy originating beyond U.S. borders while staying true to the principles outlined above in this response. We should never let criminals hide behind a hollow embrace of legitimate American values.

This is not just a matter for legislation. We expect and encourage all private parties, including both content creators and Internet platform providers working together, to adopt voluntary measures and best practices to reduce online piracy.

So, rather than just look at how legislation can be stopped, ask yourself: Where do we go from here? Don't limit your opinion to what's the wrong thing to do, ask yourself what's right. Already, many of members of Congress are asking for public input around the issue. We are paying close attention to those opportunities, as well as to public input to the Administration. The organizer of this petition and a random sample of the signers will be invited to a conference call to discuss this issue further with Administration officials and soon after that, we will host an online event to get more input and answer your questions. Details on that will follow in the coming days.

Washington needs to hear your best ideas about how to clamp down on rogue websites and other criminals who make money off the creative efforts of American artists and rights holders. We should all be committed to working with all interested constituencies to develop new legal tools to protect global intellectual property rights without jeopardizing the openness of the Internet. Our hope is that you will bring enthusiasm and know-how to this important challenge.

Moving forward, we will continue to work with Congress on a bipartisan basis on legislation that provides new tools needed in the global fight against piracy and counterfeiting, while vigorously defending an open Internet based on the values of free expression, privacy, security and innovation. Again, thank you for taking the time to participate in this important process. We hope you'll continue to be part of it.

Victoria Espinel is Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator at Office of Management and Budget Aneesh Chopra is the U.S. Chief Technology Officer and Assistant to the President and Associate Director for Technology at the Office of Science and Technology Policy Howard Schmidt is Special Assistant to the President and Cybersecurity Coordinator for National Security Staff

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Did people think this would actually pass? It was insanely obvious it wouldn't.
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This is the best news I've heard all day.
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NDAA objection comes to mind, does sopa not give obama enough new powers for him to sign?
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"]This is fantastic news! I knew Obama stood for something the moment he came out against NDAA. This is only a good thing.sonicare
Didnt he sign NDAA into law?

That was the joke/my point.
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Poor PIPA. Never getting a break.

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Fun fact - pipa (also) means blowjob in greek
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isnt that what Obama said about NDAA............. what a joke American politicians are
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#23 CajunMadePunk
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It's all an act, it's time for Obama's reelection.
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#24 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Did Obama say he would not support SOPA? The article I read said he didnt like some aspects of it, but that online piracy was a problem and needed to be addressed. Just sounds like he is working both sides.

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#25 coolbeans90
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I'll believe it when I see a veto.

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#26 Shinobi120
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Ya, well, actions speak louder than words. I wouldn't fully trust them yet.

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#27 Bigboss232
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Yea so much bull don't lower your guard so they can pass the bill behind our backs like the NDAA.

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isnt that what Obama said about NDAA............. what a joke American politicians areBossPerson

I think he said that he would not sign the NDAA in what was it's current form back when he made the comment. I am to assume they revised/tweaked the NDAA a little bit to his liking before putting his John Hancock on it.

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]isnt that what Obama said about NDAA............. what a joke American politicians are_R34LiTY_

I think he said that he would not sign the NDAA in what was it's current form back when he made the comment. I am to assume they revised/tweaked the NDAA a little bit to his liking before putting his John Hancock on it.

he needed the more invasive and monstrous portions of NDAA to be applicable to US citizens on US soil. once those changes were made he signed it into law.

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Disney, WB and many other entertainment companies have made billions of dollars last year. The House and the Obama Adminstration should tell these companies on figuring a way in doing business on the internet. When people who have enough disposable income, this doesnt include alot of kids and people who are in college, pirating movies and tv shows that tells me that its a business failure and the approach of doing business on the internet is not working. Putting SOPA type of law in place does nothing but allow these companies to continue doing the same business practice without innovating on how they market their products.
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I came here because I tought it was PIPA Middleton
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#32 Bigboss232
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Is SOPA truly dead? Or delayed so they can pass it behind our backs. Don't celebrate too soon I think it will be back.

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http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/stand-together-the-gaming-community-vs-sopa-and-pipa
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I came here because I tought it was PIPA Middletonhippiesanta
That would easily pass.
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All Obama has to do is draw a big X through the bill and stamp "VETO" on it.

In that one instant, he will become known as the President of the Internet.

And he will win the 2012 Election.

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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

All Obama has to do is draw a big X through the bill and stamp "VETO" on it.

In that one instant, he will become known as the President of the Internet.

And he will win the 2012 Election.

Given his record with the NDAA, chances are he signs it.
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#40 branketra
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This is fantastic news! I knew Obama stood for something the moment he came out against NDAA. This is only a good thing.scorch-62
He did?
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#41 Sunfyre7896
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Here's how to fix it, go after sites that utilize torrents and other such downloads and leave the streaming and social media alone. Situation resolved.