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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]Nope.YetifanWait you are saying you think we are the only living things in the universe?
Yep. And I'll continue to think that way until we have better reason to believe otherwise other than "wow, what a biiiiiiiig universe! There MUST be other life-forms out there, because the universe is soooooo biiiiiiig!"
Wait you are saying you think we are the only living things in the universe?[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]Nope.Dracargen
Yep. And I'll continue to think that way until we have better reason to believe otherwise other than "wow, what a biiiiiiiig universe! There MUST be other life-forms out there, because the universe is soooooo biiiiiiig!"
Are you by any chance....religous? Cause I cant even fathom how someone can think so arrogantly.I do. Theres billions of galaxies, its impossible that were the only life forms out there.s3anx7007
That would only be true if the universe was infinite, which it is not. The whole reasoning behind this is a classic example of an inductive argument, but really we are being asked to differentiate between two unimaginable things, the numbers of planets and the incredible complexity of life. I therefore see that there is nothing conclusive one way or the other.
I definately don't believe that we will ever contact or be contacted by extraterrestrials, and nothing in physics provides any explanation as to how anything could travel faster than light, so the whole debate is moot.
But we already have. I think about 5% of UFO encounters CANNOT be explained.[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="its_me_"]To be frank, I don't care. If there are aliens, we will never cross paths with them.Dracargen
That just means they can't be shown to be real.
The Government is covering everything up!![QUOTE="Dracargen"]Wait you are saying you think we are the only living things in the universe?[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]Nope.Yetifan
Yep. And I'll continue to think that way until we have better reason to believe otherwise other than "wow, what a biiiiiiiig universe! There MUST be other life-forms out there, because the universe is soooooo biiiiiiig!"
Are you by any chance....religous? Cause I cant even fathom how someone can think so arrogantly.Since when did it become arrogance to not believe the claims of a trailer-park junkie who saw his cow, Ol' Slim, get beamed up by little gray men after having his corn crop flattened?
Yes, I am religious, and I don't see how that has anything to do with it.
I do not believe in extra terrestrials because there is no evidence to support their existence. I do however believe in the possibility that they do exist because the universe is so vast and the chances that life has not formed anywhere else is so low that it is negligible.foxhound_foxThats what I mean kind of. You just worded it much better. But I myself BELIEVE in aliens, and that they have visited Earth. Probably from a nearby moon. Also new planets that may sustain life are being discoverd not too far away pretty frequently.
[QUOTE="Dracargen"]But we already have. I think about 5% of UFO encounters CANNOT be explained.[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="its_me_"]To be frank, I don't care. If there are aliens, we will never cross paths with them.Yetifan
That just means they can't be shown to be real.
The Government is covering everything up!!Screw the Government. I'll find these aliens myself.
[QUOTE="Dracargen"]Wait you are saying you think we are the only living things in the universe?[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]Nope.Yetifan
Yep. And I'll continue to think that way until we have better reason to believe otherwise other than "wow, what a biiiiiiiig universe! There MUST be other life-forms out there, because the universe is soooooo biiiiiiig!"
Are you by any chance....religous? Cause I cant even fathom how someone can think so arrogantly. I agree with him and I'm not religious. :|[QUOTE="Dracargen"]But we already have. I think about 5% of UFO encounters CANNOT be explained.[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="its_me_"]To be frank, I don't care. If there are aliens, we will never cross paths with them.Yetifan
That just means they can't be shown to be real.
The Government is covering everything up!!Because the government has every reason in the world to cover up aliens.:roll:
[QUOTE="s3anx7007"]I do. Theres billions of galaxies, its impossible that were the only life forms out there.Junkie_man
That would only be true if the universe was infinite, which it is not. The whole reasoning behind this is a classic example of an inductive argument, but really we are being asked to differentiate between two unimaginable things, the numbers of planets and the incredible complexity of life. I therefore see that there is nothing conclusive one way or the other.
I definately don't believe that we will ever contact or be contacted by extraterrestrials, and nothing in physics provides any explanation as to how anything could travel faster than light, so the whole debate is moot.
yeah but if there are extraterrestrials then they could be a millions times more advanced than we are. They couldve figured out how to travel faster than light and they coulve figured out where all the black holes are
[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]Wait you are saying you think we are the only living things in the universe?[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]Nope.Dracargen
Yep. And I'll continue to think that way until we have better reason to believe otherwise other than "wow, what a biiiiiiiig universe! There MUST be other life-forms out there, because the universe is soooooo biiiiiiig!"
Are you by any chance....religous? Cause I cant even fathom how someone can think so arrogantly.Since when did it become arrogance to not believe the claims of a trailer-park junkie who saw his cow, Ol' Slim, get beamed up by little gray men after having his corn crop flattened?
Yes, I am religious, and I don't see how that has anything to do with it.
Thats not what I meant. I mean the possibility of life out there. And if you cant see the correlation between being religous and not believing in extraterrestrial life then you are not religous. If you are Christian, which I am going to assume you are, you probably believe that we are the center of the Universe(not literally cause we are not) and the Bible doesnt say anything about creation of other life on other planets. Although it actually hints at extraterrestrials, depending on how you interpret things, which of course is all the bible is.[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]But we already have. I think about 5% of UFO encounters CANNOT be explained.[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="its_me_"]To be frank, I don't care. If there are aliens, we will never cross paths with them.Dracargen
That just means they can't be shown to be real.
The Government is covering everything up!!Because the government has every reason in the world to cover up aliens.:roll:
You think they'd prefer to say on live TV on the news "hey America, these super intelligent beings from other planets are coming to earth, we don't know what they want, we can't stop them... don't worry though"
[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]But we already have. I think about 5% of UFO encounters CANNOT be explained.[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="its_me_"]To be frank, I don't care. If there are aliens, we will never cross paths with them.Dracargen
That just means they can't be shown to be real.
The Government is covering everything up!!Because the government has every reason in the world to cover up aliens.:roll:
They dont need every reason in the world, they actually dont need any. However one would be mass panic.[QUOTE="Dracargen"]Wait you are saying you think we are the only living things in the universe?[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]Nope.Yetifan
Yep. And I'll continue to think that way until we have better reason to believe otherwise other than "wow, what a biiiiiiiig universe! There MUST be other life-forms out there, because the universe is soooooo biiiiiiig!"
Are you by any chance....religous? Cause I cant even fathom how someone can think so arrogantly.I don't see what's so arrogant about what he's saying. The negative must always be prefered untill evidence is found for the positive. That's why we don't believe in flying spaghetti monsters or teapots orbiting the sun.
[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]Wait you are saying you think we are the only living things in the universe?[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]Nope.Junkie_man
Yep. And I'll continue to think that way until we have better reason to believe otherwise other than "wow, what a biiiiiiiig universe! There MUST be other life-forms out there, because the universe is soooooo biiiiiiig!"
Are you by any chance....religous? Cause I cant even fathom how someone can think so arrogantly.I don't see what's so arrogant about what he's saying. The negative must always be prefered untill evidence is found for the positive. That's why we don't believe in flying spaghetti monsters or teapots orbiting the sun.
Yeah, but thats the problem, THERE IS evidence of life on other planets, even if it is just past life!Thats not what I meant. I mean the possibility of life out there. And if you cant see the correlation between being religous and not believing in extraterrestrial life then you are not religous. If you are Christian, which I am going to assume you are, you probably believe that we are the center of the Universe(not literally cause we are not) and the Bible doesnt say anything about creation of other life on other planets. Although it actually hints at extraterrestrials, depending on how you interpret things, which of course is all the bible is.Yetifan
Please.:roll:
If there is one thing I cannot stand it is someone quoting to me what I believe.
No, I do NOT think we are the center of the universe (literally or figuratively), if aliens exist, the Bible doesn't mention it (the Bible doesn't mention masturbation either), and I must have misssed the part in school that said "if something has more than one interpretation, it must be false."
How does the Bible hint at extraterrestrials? Do you truly think that would be apparent to first century Israelites? You can't approach the Bible thinking " I believe in X, therefore I will try to find statements in scripture that support X", You have to view it in context.
[QUOTE="Yetifan"]Thats not what I meant. I mean the possibility of life out there. And if you cant see the correlation between being religous and not believing in extraterrestrial life then you are not religous. If you are Christian, which I am going to assume you are, you probably believe that we are the center of the Universe(not literally cause we are not) and the Bible doesnt say anything about creation of other life on other planets. Although it actually hints at extraterrestrials, depending on how you interpret things, which of course is all the bible is.Dracargen
Please.:roll:
If there is one thing I cannot stand it is someone quoting to me what I believe.
No, I do NOT think we are the center of the universe (literally or figuratively), if aliens exist, the Bible doesn't mention it (the Bible doesn't mention masturbation either), and I must have misssed the part in school that said "if something has more than one interpretation, it must be false."
I said nothing about anything being false if interpreted in different ways. But again interpreted in different ways. Have you read the whold bible through and through? Or do u just go to sunday school? I havent, but i know there are some things in the bible that have on more than one occasion hinted at life outside of earth. But again interpretation, and you cant prove it right or wrong. So why not believe in the more interesting aspect of it and believe that there is life out there?? Or the possibility of? You seem very pessimistic and boring and I would not want to hang out with you. No offense.There is a possibility that aliens exist, but there is no solid proof whatsoever pointing to so. As said before, yes the universe is big (not infinite) and yea there's an assload (or two) of planets out there, but that isn't proof. We could have just as well been a fluke of a planet in a freak of a solar system.
And if you notice, sometimes the same people who go "There has to be life out there" in a thread like this would go "lol faith! God has no proof" in a God/religion thread.
Go figure...
[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Yetifan"]Thats not what I meant. I mean the possibility of life out there. And if you cant see the correlation between being religous and not believing in extraterrestrial life then you are not religous. If you are Christian, which I am going to assume you are, you probably believe that we are the center of the Universe(not literally cause we are not) and the Bible doesnt say anything about creation of other life on other planets. Although it actually hints at extraterrestrials, depending on how you interpret things, which of course is all the bible is.Yetifan
Please.:roll:
If there is one thing I cannot stand it is someone quoting to me what I believe.
No, I do NOT think we are the center of the universe (literally or figuratively), if aliens exist, the Bible doesn't mention it (the Bible doesn't mention masturbation either), and I must have misssed the part in school that said "if something has more than one interpretation, it must be false."
I said nothing about anything being false if interpreted in different ways. But again interpreted in different ways. Have you read the whold bible through and through? Or do u just go to sunday school? I havent, but i know there are some things in the bible that have on more than one occasion hinted at life outside of earth. But again interpretation, and you cant prove it right or wrong. So why not believe in the more interesting aspect of it and believe that there is life out there?? Or the possibility of?I neither have read the entire Bible nor do I go to Sunday school.
And some interpretations can be proven right and wrong.:|
But there is evidence. And according to some people, like encounters with them (UFOs, abductions etc.) there is PROOF. But I mean of course they could be either lying or crazy, or what if they are not? So just because you havent seen any proof doesnt mean someone else hasnt.There is a possibility that aliens exist, but there is no solid proof whatsoever pointing to so. As said before, yes the universe is big (not infinite) and yea there's an assload (or two) of planets out there, but that isn't proof. We could have just as well been a fluke of a planet in a freak of a solar system.
And if you notice, sometimes the same people who go "There has to be life out there" in a thread like this would go "lol faith! God has no proof" in a God/religion thread.
Go figure...
Ezgam3r
[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Yetifan"]Thats not what I meant. I mean the possibility of life out there. And if you cant see the correlation between being religous and not believing in extraterrestrial life then you are not religous. If you are Christian, which I am going to assume you are, you probably believe that we are the center of the Universe(not literally cause we are not) and the Bible doesnt say anything about creation of other life on other planets. Although it actually hints at extraterrestrials, depending on how you interpret things, which of course is all the bible is.Dracargen
Please.:roll:
If there is one thing I cannot stand it is someone quoting to me what I believe.
No, I do NOT think we are the center of the universe (literally or figuratively), if aliens exist, the Bible doesn't mention it (the Bible doesn't mention masturbation either), and I must have misssed the part in school that said "if something has more than one interpretation, it must be false."
I said nothing about anything being false if interpreted in different ways. But again interpreted in different ways. Have you read the whold bible through and through? Or do u just go to sunday school? I havent, but i know there are some things in the bible that have on more than one occasion hinted at life outside of earth. But again interpretation, and you cant prove it right or wrong. So why not believe in the more interesting aspect of it and believe that there is life out there?? Or the possibility of?I neither have read the entire Bible nor do I go to Sunday school.
And some interpretations can be proven right and wrong.:|
Im talking about interpretations in the bible.[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"]But there is evidence. And according to some people, like encounters with them (UFOs, abductions etc.) there is PROOF. But I mean of course they could be either lying or crazy, or what if they are not? So just because you havent seen any proof doesnt mean someone else hasnt.There is a possibility that aliens exist, but there is no solid proof whatsoever pointing to so. As said before, yes the universe is big (not infinite) and yea there's an assload (or two) of planets out there, but that isn't proof. We could have just as well been a fluke of a planet in a freak of a solar system.
And if you notice, sometimes the same people who go "There has to be life out there" in a thread like this would go "lol faith! God has no proof" in a God/religion thread.
Go figure...
Yetifan
Same goes for the existence of God.
[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"]But there is evidence. And according to some people, like encounters with them (UFOs, abductions etc.) there is PROOF. But I mean of course they could be either lying or crazy, or what if they are not? So just because you havent seen any proof doesnt mean someone else hasnt.There is a possibility that aliens exist, but there is no solid proof whatsoever pointing to so. As said before, yes the universe is big (not infinite) and yea there's an assload (or two) of planets out there, but that isn't proof. We could have just as well been a fluke of a planet in a freak of a solar system.
And if you notice, sometimes the same people who go "There has to be life out there" in a thread like this would go "lol faith! God has no proof" in a God/religion thread.
Go figure...
its_me_
Same goes for the existence of God.
I know, and?You seem very pessimistic and boring and I would not want to hang out with you. No offense.Yetifan
I am very pessimistic (being a realist will do that), and most of what I do would be considered boring, so if you don't like it, I wouldn't want to hang out with you, either.:|
[QUOTE="Yetifan"] You seem very pessimistic and boring and I would not want to hang out with you. No offense.Dracargen
I am very pessimistic (being a realist will do that), and most of what I do would be considered boring, so if you don't like it, I wouldn't want to hang out with you, either.:|
But you believe in god? I havnt heard of a realist like that. You know that is the equivalent of believing in magic or Santa Clause, not saying I dont.(except for santa lol)[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Yetifan"] You seem very pessimistic and boring and I would not want to hang out with you. No offense.Yetifan
I am very pessimistic (being a realist will do that), and most of what I do would be considered boring, so if you don't like it, I wouldn't want to hang out with you, either.:|
But you believe in god? I havnt heard of a realist like that.I guess that makes me an anomaly.:|
[QUOTE="its_me_"][QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"]But there is evidence. And according to some people, like encounters with them (UFOs, abductions etc.) there is PROOF. But I mean of course they could be either lying or crazy, or what if they are not? So just because you havent seen any proof doesnt mean someone else hasnt.There is a possibility that aliens exist, but there is no solid proof whatsoever pointing to so. As said before, yes the universe is big (not infinite) and yea there's an assload (or two) of planets out there, but that isn't proof. We could have just as well been a fluke of a planet in a freak of a solar system.
And if you notice, sometimes the same people who go "There has to be life out there" in a thread like this would go "lol faith! God has no proof" in a God/religion thread.
Go figure...
Yetifan
Same goes for the existence of God.
I know, and?Why are you harping on people who believe in God, if you admittedly use the same logic to believe in aliens? That doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Yetifan"]Im talking about interpretations in the bible.Yetifan
I know. So am I.:|
But....you cant prove anything in the bible.If aliens visited Earth, would that prove or not prove your interpretation that aliens are in the Bible?:|
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