Who believes in extraterrestrials?(aliens)

I refuse to believe that we are the only ones in this universe.Lto_thaG

Agreed.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Yetifan"] You seem very pessimistic and boring and I would not want to hang out with you. No offense.Yetifan

I am very pessimistic (being a realist will do that), and most of what I do would be considered boring, so if you don't like it, I wouldn't want to hang out with you, either.:|

No, it isn't, and what you just did was

1. Commit a logical fallacy called Equivalence, and

2. Compared what I base my entire life around to a fat man in a red suit on a flying sled and parlor tricks.

Give me one good reason why I shouldn't feel offended.:|

Oo oo I do! I believe that in 2012 all life in the galaxy will be destroyed by the Reapers.

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"]

There is a possibility that aliens exist, but there is no solid proof whatsoever pointing to so. As said before, yes the universe is big (not infinite) and yea there's an assload (or two) of planets out there, but that isn't proof. We could have just as well been a fluke of a planet in a freak of a solar system.

And if you notice, sometimes the same people who go "There has to be life out there" in a thread like this would go "lol faith! God has no proof" in a God/religion thread.

Go figure...

Yetifan

"But there is evidence. And according to some people, like encounters with them (Angels, spiritual revelations, near death experences etc.) there is PROOF. But I mean of course they could be either lying or crazy, or what if they are not? So just because you havent seen any proof doesnt mean someone else hasnt."

Now if this were a religion thread, you would have been flamed to hell and back for a few pages for the above.

Sure, aliens could exist, but until we have more then a few fuzzy films of stuff in the sky and get something like a piece of the ship or an alien corpse or something, we can't say for sure.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

I am very pessimistic (being a realist will do that)

luke1889

Call me stupid...but I thought realists were realistic and pessimists were...pessimistic. :|

Realism typically yields a pessimistic view.;)

[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="its_me_"][QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"]

There is a possibility that aliens exist, but there is no solid proof whatsoever pointing to so. As said before, yes the universe is big (not infinite) and yea there's an assload (or two) of planets out there, but that isn't proof. We could have just as well been a fluke of a planet in a freak of a solar system.

And if you notice, sometimes the same people who go "There has to be life out there" in a thread like this would go "lol faith! God has no proof" in a God/religion thread.

Go figure...

its_me_

Same goes for the existence of God.

Why are you harping on people who believe in God, if you admittedly use the same logic to believe in aliens? That doesn't make sense.

[QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

I am very pessimistic (being a realist will do that)

Dracargen

Call me stupid...but I thought realists were realistic and pessimists were...pessimistic. :|

Realism typically yields a pessimistic view.;)

Hehe, I'm just joshing with you. :P I'm a realist too, but I do slip into pessimism more than I'd like to. Y'know, this reminds me of a neologism from a good friend of mine: optessimistic.

Expect the worst, but hope for the best.

Im not harping on anyone who believes in God, I BELIEVE IN GOD. I also believe in aliens. Im trying to understand without directly asking it(until now) how you can believe in the existence of a GOD, and not life on other planets when there is evidence for one and not the other!!Yetifan

The way people stagger and scratch their skulls when they're told that I believe in God but not in aliens always makes me chuckle.

[QUOTE="its_me_"][QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="its_me_"][QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"]

There is a possibility that aliens exist, but there is no solid proof whatsoever pointing to so. As said before, yes the universe is big (not infinite) and yea there's an assload (or two) of planets out there, but that isn't proof. We could have just as well been a fluke of a planet in a freak of a solar system.

And if you notice, sometimes the same people who go "There has to be life out there" in a thread like this would go "lol faith! God has no proof" in a God/religion thread.

Go figure...

Yetifan

Same goes for the existence of God.

Why are you harping on people who believe in God, if you admittedly use the same logic to believe in aliens? That doesn't make sense.

Because they see more reason to believe in God than in life on other planets? It's subjective.

[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"]

There is a possibility that aliens exist, but there is no solid proof whatsoever pointing to so. As said before, yes the universe is big (not infinite) and yea there's an assload (or two) of planets out there, but that isn't proof. We could have just as well been a fluke of a planet in a freak of a solar system.

And if you notice, sometimes the same people who go "There has to be life out there" in a thread like this would go "lol faith! God has no proof" in a God/religion thread.

Go figure...

Ezgam3r

"But there is evidence. And according to some people, like encounters with them (Angels, spiritual revelations, near death experences etc.) there is PROOF. But I mean of course they could be either lying or crazy, or what if they are not? So just because you havent seen any proof doesnt mean someone else hasnt."

Now if this were a religion thread, you would have been flamed to hell and back for a few pages for the above.

Sure, aliens could exist, but until we have more then a few fuzzy films of stuff in the sky and get something like a piece of the ship or an alien corpse or something, we can't say for sure.

Hehe, I'm just joshing with you. :P I'm a realist too, but I do slip into pessimism more than I'd like to. Y'know, this reminds me of a neologism from a good friend of mine: optessimistic.

Expect the worst, but hope for the best.

luke1889

That's a good philosophy. Mine's more like this:

Expect the worse, but hope to God you are actually wrong for once.

[QUOTE="luke1889"]

Hehe, I'm just joshing with you. :P I'm a realist too, but I do slip into pessimism more than I'd like to. Y'know, this reminds me of a neologism from a good friend of mine: optessimistic.

Expect the worst, but hope for the best.

Dracargen

That's a good philosophy. Mine's more like this:

Expect the worse, but hope to God you are actually wrong for once.

Heh, nuances aside, they're pretty much the same. :P

[QUOTE="Yetifan"]Im not harping on anyone who believes in God, I BELIEVE IN GOD. I also believe in aliens. Im trying to understand without directly asking it(until now) how you can believe in the existence of a GOD, and not life on other planets when there is evidence for one and not the other!!Dracargen

The way people stagger and scratch their skulls when they're told that I believe in God but not in aliens always makes me chuckle.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Yetifan"]Im not harping on anyone who believes in God, I BELIEVE IN GOD. I also believe in aliens. Im trying to understand without directly asking it(until now) how you can believe in the existence of a GOD, and not life on other planets when there is evidence for one and not the other!!Yetifan

The way people stagger and scratch their skulls when they're told that I believe in God but not in aliens always makes me chuckle.

What makes me chuckle is the fact that they have such a hard time figuring out something so incredibly simple.

Think: I don't believe in aliens because I'm not personally convinced of their existence. Now, assuming I apply the same logic to the existence of God (which I do), what does that mean?

[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Yetifan"] You seem very pessimistic and boring and I would not want to hang out with you. No offense.Dracargen

I am very pessimistic (being a realist will do that), and most of what I do would be considered boring, so if you don't like it, I wouldn't want to hang out with you, either.:|

No, it isn't, and what you just did was

1. Commit a logical fallacy called Equivalence, and

2. Compared what I base my entire life around to a fat man in a red suit on a flying sled and parlor tricks.

Give me one good reason why I shouldn't feel offended.:|

So whats the difference between magic and the stories in the bible? And you shouldnt feel offended because I believe in some of if too. Just probably not the literal interpretation of genesis. OH AND DO NOT EVER REFER TO SANTA IN THAT MANNER AGAIN!!!Yetifan

I don't believe the literal interpretation of Genesis either.:|

[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Yetifan"]Im not harping on anyone who believes in God, I BELIEVE IN GOD. I also believe in aliens. Im trying to understand without directly asking it(until now) how you can believe in the existence of a GOD, and not life on other planets when there is evidence for one and not the other!!Dracargen

The way people stagger and scratch their skulls when they're told that I believe in God but not in aliens always makes me chuckle.

What makes me chuckle is the fact that they have such a hard time figuring out something so incredibly simple.

Think: I don't believe in aliens because I'm not personally convinced of their existence. Now, assuming I apply the same logic to the existence of God (which I do), what does that mean?

And I am questioning why and how you are personally convinced of God's existence and not life on other planets. I just want to know. Its nothing personal....ever.Yetifan

Does it matter? I would sound a lot like that trailer park junkie who saw his cow, Ol' Slim, getting beamed up. . . . .

So whats the difference between magic and the stories in the bible? And you shouldnt feel offended because I believe in some of if too. Just probably not the literal interpretation of genesis. OH AND DO NOT EVER REFER TO SANTA IN THAT MANNER AGAIN!!!Yetifan

The key difference is that the Bible tries to show some mechanism behind the miracles (God), while magic does not.

[QUOTE="Yetifan"] So whats the difference between magic and the stories in the bible? And you shouldnt feel offended because I believe in some of if too. Just probably not the literal interpretation of genesis. OH AND DO NOT EVER REFER TO SANTA IN THAT MANNER AGAIN!!!Dracargen

I don't believe the literal interpretation of Genesis either.:|

[QUOTE="Yetifan"]And I am questioning why and how you are personally convinced of God's existence and not life on other planets. I just want to know. Its nothing personal....ever.Dracargen

Does it matter? I would sound a lot like that trailer park junkie who saw his cow, Ol' Slim, getting beamed up. . . . .

[QUOTE="Yetifan"] So whats the difference between magic and the stories in the bible? And you shouldnt feel offended because I believe in some of if too. Just probably not the literal interpretation of genesis. OH AND DO NOT EVER REFER TO SANTA IN THAT MANNER AGAIN!!!Junkie_man

The key difference is that the Bible tries to show some mechanism behind the miracles (God), while magic does not.

Now if you'll excuse me, Naruto is on and I like ninjas. Dracargen

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"]

There is a possibility that aliens exist, but there is no solid proof whatsoever pointing to so. As said before, yes the universe is big (not infinite) and yea there's an assload (or two) of planets out there, but that isn't proof. We could have just as well been a fluke of a planet in a freak of a solar system.

And if you notice, sometimes the same people who go "There has to be life out there" in a thread like this would go "lol faith! God has no proof" in a God/religion thread.

Go figure...

Yetifan

"But there is evidence. And according to some people, like encounters with them (Angels, spiritual revelations, near death experences etc.) there is PROOF. But I mean of course they could be either lying or crazy, or what if they are not? So just because you havent seen any proof doesnt mean someone else hasnt."

Now if this were a religion thread, you would have been flamed to hell and back for a few pages for the above.

Sure, aliens could exist, but until we have more then a few fuzzy films of stuff in the sky and get something like a piece of the ship or an alien corpse or something, we can't say for sure.

If you got some evidence for aliens, give us some please.

[QUOTE="its_me_"]To be frank, I don't care. If there are aliens, we will never cross paths with them.Yetifan

People used to think the F-117 and the B-2 were alien space craft, but in fact they were classified stealth aircraft built by the US military.

[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"]

There is a possibility that aliens exist, but there is no solid proof whatsoever pointing to so. As said before, yes the universe is big (not infinite) and yea there's an assload (or two) of planets out there, but that isn't proof. We could have just as well been a fluke of a planet in a freak of a solar system.

And if you notice, sometimes the same people who go "There has to be life out there" in a thread like this would go "lol faith! God has no proof" in a God/religion thread.

Go figure...

Ezgam3r

"But there is evidence. And according to some people, like encounters with them (Angels, spiritual revelations, near death experences etc.) there is PROOF. But I mean of course they could be either lying or crazy, or what if they are not? So just because you havent seen any proof doesnt mean someone else hasnt."

Now if this were a religion thread, you would have been flamed to hell and back for a few pages for the above.

Sure, aliens could exist, but until we have more then a few fuzzy films of stuff in the sky and get something like a piece of the ship or an alien corpse or something, we can't say for sure.

If you got some evidence for aliens, give us some please.

[QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="its_me_"]To be frank, I don't care. If there are aliens, we will never cross paths with them.UrbanSpartan125

Then the military must be testing some very big flying aircrafts that are capable of defying gravity and going from 0 to 7000 mph in .003 seconds.

[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="Yetifan"][QUOTE="its_me_"]To be frank, I don't care. If there are aliens, we will never cross paths with them.SunofVich

Then the military must be testing some very big flying aircrafts that are capable of defying gravity and going from 0 to 7000 mph in .003 seconds.

Did anyone check out the video i posted? Here it is again:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JqIseJwx2_4

I mean it could easily be fake obviously, but it does look pretty real. Read some of the comments under it too that are interesting.

Jesus did exist, I know that. He was a real person, but he may have been blown out of proportion like Saint Nick, who was a real person, to the fictional Santa Clause. See the resemblence. Though again for the thousanth time I do believe in what the bible says Jesus Christ did(aka Magic)Yetifan

Quite possible.

Oh, and I dont feel like googling evidence for extraterrestrial life, but I can tell you some, like what I actually learned in classes in college. There have been planets and moons that have been found with evidence of water, and other essesential things to support life. Some creepily resemble earths atmosphere. Yetifan

Mars has ice at its polar caps. Europa may have water under its surface, but it could also just have solid ice beneath the crust. Gliese 581 c is said to be in the habitable zone of its solar system but we don't know much about its physical features besides its size, which is bigger then Earth. Another planet (forgot its name) is said to have water, but it's gravity is so high, the water is like ice, hot ice.

That's about it.

Earth is so far the only known planetary body with liquid water and characteristics like itself.

Also evidence of microscopic bacteria not of this earth. Most of this is evidence of past life on the planets though. Also an ice sheet of frozen water that many scientisst think might contain alien life under it.Yetifan

Bacteria has been said to be on astroids (as thats one of the theories of what triggered life on Earth), but so far nothing has come up.

Im not a scientist, but i learned this in a class, and from discovery channel. I have no links at the moment, so you should probably google it. I know this evidence is very minute, but it is evidence, more evidence than what the bible has to support its claims. But, I do believe in some things in the bible despite how negativley it may seem I talk about it.Yetifan

I do believe that organic life-forms inhabit planets where the enviroment permits.

Here's to anal probes.

Thinking that there is no life beyond Earth is just plainly naive.

I do!!! :DYetifan

Same! Religion is mumbo jumbo ( no uffence to anny religious people on gamespot)

I say we go investigate. To the spaceships!jodamn

TO THE SPACESHIPS!