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#1 -PaCMaN-
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I saw something on youtube today that was kind of interesting, the link below is part 1 of 3 parts showing a man debunking pictures of the mission to the moon with photo shop. if you have some time check it out and discuss. I'm wondering what people here think about the possibility of NASA staging the Apollo mission to the moon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nU-0nQC6tE

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LOL. It was about time for a non 9/11 conspiracy theory to show up here again.
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#4 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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I think they landed on the moon. If they didn't, then I don't really care. I don't want to watch that video right now because it's so damn long. Maybe some other time.
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There's no question about it. Proof: The Russians never complained about it. If the US did fake the moon landing, there's no way in hell the russians would've let them get away with it.
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#6 ishoturface
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if they didnt then neil armstrong is a heck of a great actor :)

I bet this started with the dang russians so they can claim they were the first people on the moon

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#7 skizz624
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It's Basically why Neil Armstrong very rarely speaks on the subject of his "moon landing". But it will always be one of those subjects that never get reveiled.
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#8 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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We'll probably never know for sure...though I personally trust the US government on this one,
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#9 mattyftm
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99.9% of conspiracy theories are complete crap.
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There's no question about it. Proof: The Russians never complained about it. If the US did fake the moon landing, there's no way in hell the russians would've let them get away with it.DeeJayInphinity

Maybe the Russians were in on it, and that little cold war thing is just a cover up. :D

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#11 Boba_Fett_3710
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Even if people did go to the moon, I don't know what it proves?

They say the Moon is part of the Earth that broke off and got stuck in the Earth's orbit. It wouldn't surprise me if it was made of the same elements the Earth is.

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I do.
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I highly doubt we had the effects to even *attempt* to pull off a fake moonlanding back then. This was 1969 for crying outloud. Besides, we actually put several objects on the moon that can still be seen today with telescope. I think at one point we even put a mirror on it to bounce lasers off. Can't bounce lasers off a fake mirror, now can we?
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I do have my doubt's, but i really don't care.

I'm pretty sure nowadays we have the technology to do it, hich is what really matters.

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#15 Thiago26792
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Yes, they did land on the moon.
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#16 Tolwan
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Even if people did go to the moon, I don't know what it proves?

They say the Moon is part of the Earth that broke off and got stuck in the Earth's orbit. It wouldn't surprise me if it was made of the same elements the Earth is.

Boba_Fett_3710

The moon was originally another planet alltogether, it then crashed into the Earth and remnants of the collision that didnt subdue to Earth's gravity clumped together to form Earth's moon.

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I highly doubt we had the effects to even *attempt* to pull off a fake moonlanding back then. This was 1969 for crying outloud. Besides, we actually put several objects on the moon that can still be seen today with telescope. I think at one point we even put a mirror on it to bounce lasers off. Can't bounce lasers off a fake mirror, now can we?Tolwan

Actually, the entire scientific community is in on the hoax... didn't you know?

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#18 Boba_Fett_3710
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I highly doubt we had the effects to even *attempt* to pull off a fake moonlanding back then. This was 1969 for crying outloud. Besides, we actually put several objects on the moon that can still be seen today with telescope. I think at one point we even put a mirror on it to bounce lasers off. Can't bounce lasers off a fake mirror, now can we?Tolwan

No, I suppose not. But then again, the only reason we can even see the moon is because it reflects the sun's light.

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#19 metallica_fan42
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They probably did, but if they did or not, I don't really care.
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On Thursday, February 15th 2001 (and replayed on March 19), the Fox TV network aired a program called ``Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?'', hosted by X-Files actor Mitch Pileggi. The program was an hour long, and featured interviews with a series of people who believe that NASA faked the Apollo Moon landings in the 1960s and 1970s. The biggest voice in this is Bill Kaysing, who claims to have all sorts of hoax evidence, including pictures taken by the astronauts, engineering details, discussions of physics and even some testimony by astronauts themselves. The program's conclusion was that the whole thing was faked in the Nevada desert (in Area 51, of course!). According to them, NASA did not have the technical capability of going to the Moon, but pressure due to the Cold War with the Soviet Union forced them to fake it.

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I just noticed that there is stuff all over the net about this.....wow

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We definitely did. Even if Apollo 11 was a hoax (and I doubt it was) one of the other Apollo missions surely would have landed there because of the various scientific interests in the moon.
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[QUOTE="Tolwan"]I highly doubt we had the effects to even *attempt* to pull off a fake moonlanding back then. This was 1969 for crying outloud. Besides, we actually put several objects on the moon that can still be seen today with telescope. I think at one point we even put a mirror on it to bounce lasers off. Can't bounce lasers off a fake mirror, now can we?Boba_Fett_3710

No, I suppose not. But then again, the only reason we can even see the moon is because it reflects the sun's light.

The result is different, and we can measure that difference. The mirrors are designed to reflect light back in the direction from which it came, so you can actually observe the reflected beam. There are also multiple mirrors, not just one.
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#23 Tolwan
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On Thursday, February 15th 2001 (and replayed on March 19), the Fox TV network aired a program called ``Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?'', hosted by X-Files actor Mitch Pileggi. The program was an hour long, and featured interviews with a series of people who believe that NASA faked the Apollo Moon landings in the 1960s and 1970s. The biggest voice in this is Bill Kaysing, who claims to have all sorts of hoax evidence, including pictures taken by the astronauts, engineering details, discussions of physics and even some testimony by astronauts themselves. The program's conclusion was that the whole thing was faked in the Nevada desert (in Area 51, of course!). According to them, NASA did not have the technical capability of going to the Moon, but pressure due to the Cold War with the Soviet Union forced them to fake it.

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I just noticed that there is stuff all over the net about this.....wow

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Ha, that's the dumbest thing i've heard. First is the fact that everyone and their families witness the astronaughts actually getting launched into space, then there's the fact not only the US, but the Soviet's were monitoring their status *very* closely. The soviet's wanted to make sure if they touched down on the moon, the US wasn't BS'ing them. They also brought back actual moon-rocks, placed mirrors to bounce lasers off of, and i think one of the astronaughts dropped something else on the moon as well. Their landing site can be seen via high powered telescope. There is no denying Someone landed there. Either Neil Armstrong or an Alien put that flag and mirrors there, but there is indeed a flag and mirrors there.

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One of the astronauts brought a golf-ball to the moon, and you can still see it there today with a telescope.AmyMizuno

For some reason, I find that incredibly awesome.

And the moon landing was real. No reason for it to be otherwise.

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[QUOTE="Tolwan"]I highly doubt we had the effects to even *attempt* to pull off a fake moonlanding back then. This was 1969 for crying outloud. Besides, we actually put several objects on the moon that can still be seen today with telescope. I think at one point we even put a mirror on it to bounce lasers off. Can't bounce lasers off a fake mirror, now can we?Boba_Fett_3710

No, I suppose not. But then again, the only reason we can even see the moon is because it reflects the sun's light.

When I go outside, my t-shirt reflects the sun's light. That doesn't mean you'll ever be able to bounce a laser off of it like a mirror.
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#26 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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Yep,we landed on the moon.I haven't seen a drop of compelling evidence convincing me that it was a hoax.
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#27 famicommander
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Yes, they landed on the moon and no amount of Youtube videos will convince me otherwise.
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#28 GamerForca
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I've never heard of this conspiracy theory before. Some people have a lot of time on their hands.
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There's no question about it. Proof: The Russians never complained about it. If the US did fake the moon landing, there's no way in hell the russians would've let them get away with it.DeeJayInphinity
If the government can decieve millions of citizens, then they can decieve another country's government.

Anyway, I do believe that we've landed on the moon, but not when Kennedy said we did the first time. Years later, yes, but not then.

Ive seen several videos debunking the landing aswell as a video which shows a crew member in the background of the set picking something off the floor and jumping out of frame quickly. Ive also watched tv programs on the History channel debating this topic. Ive heard the Government either sped up or slowed down (Cant remember which) to make it look like there was less gravity, and there are no stars in any of the pictures, when there wouldve been seeing as there is no lights on the Moon AND obviously theyre in space so youre going to see stars.

This is my opinion, not fact but untill some hard evidence comes out that we definatly were on the moon in the '60's then I dont know what to believe.

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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]There's no question about it. Proof: The Russians never complained about it. If the US did fake the moon landing, there's no way in hell the russians would've let them get away with it.Matt-4542

If the government can decieve millions of citizens, then they can decieve another country's government.

Anyway, I do believe that we've landed on the moon, but not when Kennedy said we did the first time. Years later, yes, but not then.

Ive seen several videos debunking the landing aswell as a video which shows a crew member in the background of the set picking something off the floor and jumping out of frame quickly. Ive also watched tv programs on the History channel debating this topic. Ive heard the Government either sped up or slowed down (Cant remember which) to make it look like there was less gravity, and there are no stars in any of the pictures, when there wouldve been seeing as there is no lights on the Moon AND obviously theyre in space so youre going to see stars.

This is my opinion, not fact but untill some hard evidence comes out that we definatly were on the moon in the '60's then I dont know what to believe.

If there WERE stars in the pictures, then I might think it was fake.

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I think they got there but their not the people you think. The real people who landed on the moon died soon after due to cosmic radiation. The film was staged and was proberbly shot way before they started the mission.
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Shut. Up.
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[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]There's no question about it. Proof: The Russians never complained about it. If the US did fake the moon landing, there's no way in hell the russians would've let them get away with it.Engrish_Major

If the government can decieve millions of citizens, then they can decieve another country's government.

Anyway, I do believe that we've landed on the moon, but not when Kennedy said we did the first time. Years later, yes, but not then.

Ive seen several videos debunking the landing aswell as a video which shows a crew member in the background of the set picking something off the floor and jumping out of frame quickly. Ive also watched tv programs on the History channel debating this topic. Ive heard the Government either sped up or slowed down (Cant remember which) to make it look like there was less gravity, and there are no stars in any of the pictures, when there wouldve been seeing as there is no lights on the Moon AND obviously theyre in space so youre going to see stars.

This is my opinion, not fact but untill some hard evidence comes out that we definatly were on the moon in the '60's then I dont know what to believe.

If there WERE stars in the pictures, then I might think it was fake.

I was thinking the same thing...

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#35 Boba_Fett_3710
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How come there hasn't been anyone (not just Americans) since then that has visited the moon?
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How come there hasn't been anyone (not just Americans) since then that has visited the moon?Boba_Fett_3710

Too expensive for little / no value returned.

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Saw something on NatGeo about the subject awhile back.

They basically pointed a finger at the conspiracy theories and said "HAHA".

The champions of the conspiracy theory are complete nut jobs. And I am being serious. Each of their arguements was soundly and easily disproven by non biased third parties.

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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]There's no question about it. Proof: The Russians never complained about it. If the US did fake the moon landing, there's no way in hell the russians would've let them get away with it.Matt-4542

If the government can decieve millions of citizens, then they can decieve another country's government.

We're not talking about just normal people, we're talking about a government that had everything to gain if the moon-landing was faked. Additionally, they knew exactly what the U.S. was capable of, and what they were NOT capable of.
They knew the U.S. was capable of going to the moon because Russia was also capable of going to the moon, but they didn't have the same amount of resources, although their technology was more than capable of going there, and most would say that their technology was more advanced than ours.
And they were monitoring everything that the U.S. was doing, so if they did anything funky, they would have known and released it. Because, again, they had everything to loose if the U.S. made it there first. It was a race to the moon, so why allow your opponent to cheat?
So if the Russian government knew that the U.S. landed on the moon, I know the U.S. landed on the moon.
And let's not forget that conspiracy theorists have nothing to back up their claims. All of that adds up to a fake ct.
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why hasnt NASA been too moon after 1972? why cant they go to moon again before 2018? how did they go to moon 7 years after JFK said it so many years ago.......yet in this day and age they have to wait till 2018 to go back to moon......why is NASA now examining what can cause human harm if they go to moon, when they have already gone to moon and came back successfully? how come all previous spaceshiops had thousands of problems.....but NASA then suddenly made flawless shuttle.......and finally I was the one who took pics of Neil Armstrong putting his foot step on teh moon, meaning actually I was the one who landed on teh moon first, America lies!

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[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]There's no question about it. Proof: The Russians never complained about it. If the US did fake the moon landing, there's no way in hell the russians would've let them get away with it.DeeJayInphinity

If the government can decieve millions of citizens, then they can decieve another country's government.

We're not talking about just normal people, we're talking about a government that had everything to gain if the moon-landing was faked. Additionally, they knew exactly what the U.S. was capable of, and what they were NOT capable of.
They knew the U.S. was capable of going to the moon because Russia was also capable of going to the moon, but they didn't have the same amount of resources, although their technology was more than capable of going there, and most would say that their technology was more advanced than ours.
And they were monitoring everything that the U.S. was doing, so if they did anything funky, they would have known and released it. Because, again, they had everything to loose if the U.S. made it there first. It was a race to the moon, so why allow your opponent to cheat?
So if the Russian government knew that the U.S. landed on the moon, I know the U.S. landed on the moon.
And let's not forget that conspiracy theorists have nothing to back up their claims. All of that adds up to a fake ct.

it was fake, they fooled everyone by launching real shuttle, but no normal humans in it, only Master Chief was aboard......Russians either dont know or U.S. shut them up

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why hasnt NASA been too moon after 1972? why cant they go to moon again before 2018? how did they go to moon 7 years after JFK said it so many years ago.......yet in this day and age they have to wait till 2018 to go back to moon......why is NASA now examining what can cause human harm if they go to moon, when they have already gone to moon and came back successfully? how come all previous spaceshiops had thousands of problems.....but NASA then suddenly made flawless shuttle.......and finally I was the one who took pics of Neil Armstrong putting his foot step on teh moon, meaning actually I was the one who landed on teh moon first, America lies!

mingo123

"NASA" has been to the moon many times. As well as to Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, etc. Hae you ever heard of something called a "ro-bot"?

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One of the astronauts brought a golf-ball to the moon, and you can still see it there today with a telescope.AmyMizuno

Actually you cant. Those things are too small to see with telescopes.. It says on Wikipedia.

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I believe man landed on the moon.
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]

why hasnt NASA been too moon after 1972? why cant they go to moon again before 2018? how did they go to moon 7 years after JFK said it so many years ago.......yet in this day and age they have to wait till 2018 to go back to moon......why is NASA now examining what can cause human harm if they go to moon, when they have already gone to moon and came back successfully? how come all previous spaceshiops had thousands of problems.....but NASA then suddenly made flawless shuttle.......and finally I was the one who took pics of Neil Armstrong putting his foot step on teh moon, meaning actually I was the one who landed on teh moon first, America lies!

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"NASA" has been to the moon many times. As well as to Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, etc. Hae you ever heard of something called a "ro-bot"?

but has teh man landed on moon?

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Ive seen several videos debunking the landing aswell as a video which shows a crew member in the background of the set picking something off the floor and jumping out of frame quickly. Ive also watched tv programs on the History channel debating this topic. Ive heard the Government either sped up or slowed down (Cant remember which) to make it look like there was less gravity, and there are no stars in any of the pictures, when there wouldve been seeing as there is no lights on the Moon AND obviously theyre in space so youre going to see stars.Matt-4542

We did not go to the moon to take pictures of the stars, we went to the moon to take pictures of the moon, the way the cameras where set up didn't pick up the stars.

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[QUOTE="AmyMizuno"]One of the astronauts brought a golf-ball to the moon, and you can still see it there today with a telescope.aaronmullan

Actually you cant. Those things are too small to see with telescopes.. It says on Wikipedia.

yeah lol if telescopes were that powerful, NASA would probably wud have found life on some other planet by now

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[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]

Ive seen several videos debunking the landing aswell as a video which shows a crew member in the background of the set picking something off the floor and jumping out of frame quickly. Ive also watched tv programs on the History channel debating this topic. Ive heard the Government either sped up or slowed down (Cant remember which) to make it look like there was less gravity, and there are no stars in any of the pictures, when there wouldve been seeing as there is no lights on the Moon AND obviously theyre in space so youre going to see stars.Chaos_HL21

We did not go to the moon to take pictures of the stars, we went to the moon to take pictures of the moon, the way the cameras where set up didn't pick up the stars.

that was a pretty funny joke

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#48 haggard_korn
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There's always people trying to "disprove" soemthing people do, it gets on my nerves. Everything our government does, some a-hole is always "I got proof it didn't happen".
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#49 yoshi-lnex
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I think Russia, which was in bitter opposition to us at the time, would have shown it to be fake if it was.
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#50 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

why hasnt NASA been too moon after 1972? why cant they go to moon again before 2018? how did they go to moon 7 years after JFK said it so many years ago.......yet in this day and age they have to wait till 2018 to go back to moon......why is NASA now examining what can cause human harm if they go to moon, when they have already gone to moon and came back successfully? how come all previous spaceshiops had thousands of problems.....but NASA then suddenly made flawless shuttle.......and finally I was the one who took pics of Neil Armstrong putting his foot step on teh moon, meaning actually I was the one who landed on teh moon first, America lies!

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"NASA" has been to the moon many times. As well as to Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, etc. Hae you ever heard of something called a "ro-bot"?

but has teh man landed on moon?

What, do you mean after 1972?