Who here likes Rob Zombies movies?

He's the guy that made (The Remake.) Halloween, right?

No.

you need to see it its cool

He did a good job with the Halloween remake, but didnt care for his other two movies.

Not a big fan of torture porn. I watch horror movies to be scared, not merely disgusted.

I saw House of 100 Corpses and Devil's Rejects, back-to-back, and I regret it immensely. What exactly is so entertaining about watching innocent people get humiliated, molested, tortured and killed by virtue of the fact they were in the wrong motel at the wrong time? And am I supposed to be touched by the "loving" serial killer family arguing over whether to get ice-cream in the next scene, and feel any sympathy when that cop - psychotic, self-rightous Christian zealot that he was - tortured them in return?

Maybe I just don't "get it". Maybe I need to "lighten up" and realize that the stylized tourture, rape and murder of innocents can be highly entertaining if I just keep an open mind. In fact, I think I have an idea for a blockbuster kill-fest right now! All I have to do is splice together a few holocaust films (Schindler's List, the Piano, etc.), edit out the sympathy and add a generic numetal soundtrack. Voila!

I didn't watch the others, but his remake of Halloween has to be one of the biggest travesties I've ever seen in the world of entertainment. He went into it not liking the original by his own admission. He turned it into a movie where only the shell of the story remained by adding a strong mix of overt and over-the-top brutality and removing almost all of the chilling psychological horror of the original. He took Michael Myers, the cool, slow, methodical stalker of the series who is driven by some unexplained yet compelling nether-force and turned himinto a huge muscled brute with anger and self-control issues.

I remember the ads suggesting that the ending was going to be a surprise, even shocking. After seeing it, the only shock I experienced was the credits rolling without the shocking ending.

I don't know what kind of director he is overall, but that movie definitely didn't leave me with a good first impression.

house of 1000 corpses was good. devil's rejects wasn't.

haven't seen halloween. don't know if he's made others.

Not a big fan of torture porn. I watch horror movies to be scared, not merely disgusted.

I saw House of 100 Corpses and Devil's Rejects, back-to-back, and I regret it immensely. What exactly is so entertaining about watching innocent people get humiliated, molested, tortured and killed by virtue of the fact they were in the wrong motel at the wrong time? And am I supposed to be touched by the "loving" serial killer family arguing over whether to get ice-cream in the next scene, and feel any sympathy when that cop - psychotic, self-rightous Christian zealot that he was - tortured them in return?

Maybe I just don't "get it". Maybe I need to "lighten up" and realize that the stylized tourture, rape and murder of innocents can be highly entertaining if I just keep an open mind. In fact, I think I have an idea for a blockbuster kill-fest right now! All I have to do is splice together a few holocaust films (Schindler's List, the Piano, etc.), edit out the sympathy and add a generic numetal soundtrack. Voila!

Almost makes me wish Rob Zombie would go back to music. Almost...

creepy_mike

Wow! I didn't read this one the first time I posted, but yes indeed -- you said exactly how I feel about it. A movie that really really bothered me was Hostel 2. I was goaded into seeing the second one with my friend. All I can say is never EVER again. I had to leave the theater I was so bothered by what I was seeing. There was almost no real suspense either. It literally felt like the enjoyment I was supposed to gather from it was in the torturous carnage itself.

I don't really c1assify those movies as horror movies. I think you hit the genre-specific terminology on the head right there.

Everyone wants to be creative, be their own person, and achieve something artistically. Rob Zombie and those others involved in creating entries in that genre of film are no different in that sense. They do what they like, and as long as it isn't real and doesn't harm anyone literally, then I have no issue with it being shown to consenting adults. But for me personally, if saying, portraying, or putting that kind of **** to a medium is the only way someone can distinguish himself, I'm genuinely not interested in noticing them.

I didn't watch the others, but his remake of Halloween has to be one of the biggest travesties I've ever seen in the world of entertainment. He went into it not liking the original by his own admission. He turned it into a movie where only the shell of the story remained by adding a strong mix of overt and over-the-top brutality and removing almost all of the chilling psychological horror of the original. He took Michael Myers, the cool, slow, methodical stalker of the series who is driven by some unexplained yet compelling nether-force and turned himinto a huge muscled brute with anger and self-control issues.

I remember the ads suggesting that the ending was going to be a surprise, even shocking. After seeing it, the only shock I experienced was the credits rolling without the shocking ending.

I don't know what kind of director he is overall, but that movie definitely didn't leave me with a good first impression.

m0zart

While I actually hated the remake of Halloween, I did like the first thirty minutes of the film, when Michael Myers was a child. I know most people say that they like him better as some crazy physcopath that goes insane for no real reason, but I think it's just kind of stupid. In the remake, we see exactly why Michael becomes the monster he is. He has a drunk father, a stressed out mother that gets money for stripping, and a sister that doesn't care about him. The ten year old boy was neglected and hated his life, so he killed people. The beginning gave us a better understanding of Michael.

But then we he turned into an adult, the movie went downhill. Personally, I would have preferred a prequel rather than a remake.

I like the halloween Remake. And yes, i've seen the original (Jamie lee Curtis played the role of sister better however). I thought it was a pretty good movie. Different, yes, but that's the nature of a remake. Some people just dont like remakes. It's always a hit or miss. Halloween was a Hit for me.Tolwan

The sister in this movie was annoying as heck. I couldn't stand her. Her friends were just as bad. When they died, I was honestly happy, because I wouldn't have to listen to them for the rest of the movie, thankfully.

Also, you make a good point, and I agree with what you say about remakes. Changing around a few things is interesting. The two on two battles, berries, wireless battles, and all that extra stuff made Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen better than the original ones. But in Halloween's case, it was just bad...

I've never seen a ten year old boy brutally beat a thirteen year old boy with a giant stick to death before.

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]I like the halloween Remake. And yes, i've seen the original (Jamie lee Curtis played the role of sister better however). I thought it was a pretty good movie. Different, yes, but that's the nature of a remake. Some people just dont like remakes. It's always a hit or miss. Halloween was a Hit for me.DeathScape666

The sister in this movie was annoying as heck. I couldn't stand her. Her friends were just as bad. When they died, I was honestly happy, because I wouldn't have to listen to them for the rest of the movie, thankfully.

Also, you make a good point, and I agree with what you say about remakes. Changing around a few things is interesting. The two on two battles, berries, wireless battles, and all that extra stuff made Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen better than the original ones. But in Halloween's case, it was just bad...

I've never seen a ten year old boy brutally beat a thirteen year old boy with a giant stick to death before.

Well, a ten year old boy brutally beating a thirteen year old boy isnt exactly unrealistic. In reality, sometimes the bullied get the last laugh. Although nowadays its more in the form of a 20 minute shootout at school but i digress..

I agree on the sister. I missed Jamie Lee the whole time. But i still liked the movie. Maybe not entirely from a horror perspective.Because i enjoyed it because you got to see most of the movie through the Eyes of Michael and the Doctor. A lot more backstory, and i really like Malcolm McDowell.

[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]I like the halloween Remake. And yes, i've seen the original (Jamie lee Curtis played the role of sister better however). I thought it was a pretty good movie. Different, yes, but that's the nature of a remake. Some people just dont like remakes. It's always a hit or miss. Halloween was a Hit for me.Tolwan

The sister in this movie was annoying as heck. I couldn't stand her. Her friends were just as bad. When they died, I was honestly happy, because I wouldn't have to listen to them for the rest of the movie, thankfully.

Also, you make a good point, and I agree with what you say about remakes. Changing around a few things is interesting. The two on two battles, berries, wireless battles, and all that extra stuff made Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen better than the original ones. But in Halloween's case, it was just bad...

I've never seen a ten year old boy brutally beat a thirteen year old boy with a giant stick to death before.

Well, a ten year old boy brutally beating a thirteen year old boy isnt exactly unrealistic. In reality, sometimes the bullied get the last laugh. Although nowadays its more in the form of a 20 minute shootout at school but i digress..

I agree on the sister. I missed Jamie Lee the whole time. But i still liked the movie. Maybe not entirely from a horror perspective.Because i enjoyed it because you got to see most of the movie through the Eyes of Michael and the Doctor. A lot more backstory, and i really like Malcolm McDowell.

Yeah, it's not, but (I hope to GOD that) it's not that common, either. But wow, that part was really surprinsing. The whole part where Michael as a child goes insane was just crazy. A ten year old boy doing all of that? Wow.

It seems like the original movie was more focused on Jamie Lee Curtis, and the remake was more focused on Michael. It was nice to see a new perspective on things, but the overall execution was pretty bad... I enjoyed the beginning of it, though.

It seems like the original movie was more focused on Jamie Lee Curtis, and the remake was more focused on Michael. It was nice to see a new perspective on things, but the overall execution was pretty bad... I enjoyed the beginning of it, though.

DeathScape666

Yes, and that goes back into my previous post. I just don't empathize with serial killers in movies like that. I don't want to watch them enjoy killing people. I don't want to see them in any sympathetic way. I watch horror movies for the same reason I ride thrill rides, or go bungee jumping, or go skydiving. I want the fear/anxiety/thrill of the dangerous without experiencing any of the consequences of a real situation. I don't have any need at all to imagine myself in the role of a mad man. It just doesn't do anything for me.

The original Halloween showed the incidents from the perspective of the girls, mostly at least.I was able to experience the anxiety without having to worry about any of the danger being real.

Of cousre, that's not my only objection. As I already said, Myers' stealth in the original one made him truly frightening. He was easy to miss until it was too late. I mean, in that movie he'd just -- appear in the darkness. Those moments genuinely made me jump. This new version of it has Michael so large and in charge that he can't be missed and can't be avoided. There was no real fright to his outbursts.