Who here supports George bush or now is agasint him?

So George bush, in my opinion is one of the worst president's i have ever seen. I think he created 9/11, he just wanted more reasons to attack the other country's such as Iraq, and Iran and now it looks like he is getting his wish. I just also heard that Hillary Clinton wants George Bush to invade Iran. Do Americans remember how when france didn't go to fight the war against Iraq, and people were saying rude things about France, well looks like they made a smart decision because USA can't seem to end the war in Iraq. So has George bush made a horrible decision?

Who here would actually support George bush, and the way he is with wanting to invade all these country's. I can't wait until the new president is in. Like what is the reason for invading Iran? Iran isn't a threatening country, For some reason bush thinks every country is evil it seems. Obviously one day there will be a new super power, probably Russia. Unless the next president isn't for war. I watched this program, and someone said how most wars that occur, America is always involved in them. It does seem true, but George bush seems to be the worst for creating wars. So what about everyone here? Are you for George Bush or against him?

I support Bush 100%RamboSymbiot

I think he created 9/11joshmackman

This is true! He instigated the whole operation from atop a grassy knoll in Roswell, New Mexico with a little help from Elvis!

[QUOTE="joshmackman"]I think he created 9/11Oleg_Huzwog

This is true! He instigated the whole operation from atop a grassy knoll in Roswell, New Mexico with a little help from Elvis!

Spanish American War. The Spanish supposedly attacked us by blowing up the USS Maine. Whoops. We blew it up.

World War 2. The Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor. Whoops.We knew all about. Hell, that is what brought us and saved from the depression.

9/11. We're attacked-- then go to war. Hmm. Though I believe what we're doign is, in fact, necessary.

I'm not a Bush supporter...but he didn't create 9/11.:|LJS9502_basic

He didn't hey? Don't you think it's kind of weird they never caught Osama? They have extremely smart people in USA like fbi agents who can find anyone almost, but they can't find Osama? Yeah right, Bush created them all. He made 9/11 happen, he needed a reason to attack all these countrys and say they are all terroists. Bush doesn't care about the USA people, all he cares about war and trying to take over all other countrys, but that is not smart at all.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not a Bush supporter...but he didn't create 9/11.:|joshmackman

He didn't hey? Don't you think it's kind of weird they never caught Osama? They have extremely smart people in USA like fbi agents who can find anyone almost, but they can't find Osama? Yeah right, Bush created them all. He made 9/11 happen, he needed a reason to attack all these countrys and say they are all terroists. Bush doesn't care about the USA people, all he cares about war and trying to take over all other countrys, but that is not smart at all.

Pretty bad president. He manipulated America into getting us into the Iraq War based on lies and misinformation, f*cked with our rights and those of others, and he says he doesn't want to give poor children health care for their sake. The only thing I can think of that he's done right is the total lack of major terrorist attacks on America ever since 9/11.Video_Game_King

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not a Bush supporter...but he didn't create 9/11.:|joshmackman

He didn't hey? Don't you think it's kind of weird they never caught Osama? They have extremely smart people in USA like fbi agents who can find anyone almost, but they can't find Osama? Yeah right, Bush created them all. He made 9/11 happen, he needed a reason to attack all these countrys and say they are all terroists. Bush doesn't care about the USA people, all he cares about war and trying to take over all other countrys, but that is not smart at all.

Proof? Anyone can rant and offer opinions....backing them up is the difficulty.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]Pretty bad president. He manipulated America into getting us into the Iraq War based on lies and misinformation, f*cked with our rights and those of others, and he says he doesn't want to give poor children health care for their sake. The only thing I can think of that he's done right is the total lack of major terrorist attacks on America ever since 9/11.msoftburney

A bit better, but not by much. Although the Monica scandal did throw our country off from a lot of important issues. And I'm not really sure about Clinton because I don't remember much from 90's politics.

don't even get me started on how much i can't stand him as a president...jacintos09

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not a Bush supporter...but he didn't create 9/11.:|LJS9502_basic

He didn't hey? Don't you think it's kind of weird they never caught Osama? They have extremely smart people in USA like fbi agents who can find anyone almost, but they can't find Osama? Yeah right, Bush created them all. He made 9/11 happen, he needed a reason to attack all these countrys and say they are all terroists. Bush doesn't care about the USA people, all he cares about war and trying to take over all other countrys, but that is not smart at all.

Proof? Anyone can rant and offer opinions....backing them up is the difficulty.

There is proof, a terroist attack happens, next day bush declares war. Then he blames most of the middle east countrys for terroists, then he starts attacking. His dad wanted to attack Iraq so he just figures he will get the job done, but yeah Bush did create 9/11 to create all these wars. He also rigged the voting system so he would win, trust me not that many people would vote for him.

There is proof, a terroist attack happens, next day bush declares war. Then he blames most of the middle east countrys for terroists, then he starts attacking. His dad wanted to attack Iraq so he just figures he will get the job done, but yeah Bush did create 9/11 to create all these wars. He also rigged the voting system so he would win, trust me not that many people would vote for him.

joshmackman

Ok, first that is not proof, and second if you say he did it so we could go to war, why the hell would we want to go to war with afghanistan? there is absolutely nothing of any value for us there, and you still have not given us any kind of proof to prove your unfounded speculation

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="joshmackman"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not a Bush supporter...but he didn't create 9/11.:|joshmackman

He didn't hey? Don't you think it's kind of weird they never caught Osama? They have extremely smart people in USA like fbi agents who can find anyone almost, but they can't find Osama? Yeah right, Bush created them all. He made 9/11 happen, he needed a reason to attack all these countrys and say they are all terroists. Bush doesn't care about the USA people, all he cares about war and trying to take over all other countrys, but that is not smart at all.

Proof? Anyone can rant and offer opinions....backing them up is the difficulty.

There is proof, a terroist attack happens, next day bush declares war. Then he blames most of the middle east countrys for terroists, then he starts attacking. His dad wanted to attack Iraq so he just figures he will get the job done, but yeah Bush did create 9/11 to create all these wars. He also rigged the voting system so he would win, trust me not that many people would vote for him.

Next day?....no.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="joshmackman"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not a Bush supporter...but he didn't create 9/11.:|joshmackman

He didn't hey? Don't you think it's kind of weird they never caught Osama? They have extremely smart people in USA like fbi agents who can find anyone almost, but they can't find Osama? Yeah right, Bush created them all. He made 9/11 happen, he needed a reason to attack all these countrys and say they are all terroists. Bush doesn't care about the USA people, all he cares about war and trying to take over all other countrys, but that is not smart at all.

Proof? Anyone can rant and offer opinions....backing them up is the difficulty.

There is proof, a terroist attack happens, next day bush declares war. Then he blames most of the middle east countrys for terroists, then he starts attacking. His dad wanted to attack Iraq so he just figures he will get the job done, but yeah Bush did create 9/11 to create all these wars. He also rigged the voting system so he would win, trust me not that many people would vote for him.

Yeah, a dumbass like GWB doing all of that. Uh-huh....Whatever makes you sleep at night. :roll:

I was never for him, but I was never against him. Right now, he's just someone preventing the US from getting nuked, carpet-bombed, or attacked until the next election. Hell, he's better than the Clinton Administration, both Bill and Hillary. :|tomxizor

actually Bill did quite a lot of good things especially enviormentally setting aside the whole sex scandal deal he wasnt half bad and hes done even more good as former president

[QUOTE="tomxizor"]I was never for him, but I was never against him. Right now, he's just someone preventing the US from getting nuked, carpet-bombed, or attacked until the next election. Hell, he's better than the Clinton Administration, both Bill and Hillary. :|Serraph105

actually Bill did quite a lot of good things especially enviormentally setting aside the whole sex scandal deal he wasnt half bad and hes done even more good as former president

what about the fact that clinton was approached 3 times during his administation with opportunities to eliminate Osama, and he turned them all down, and they were all after the 93 bombing so we knew he was a threat

[QUOTE="joshmackman"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="joshmackman"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not a Bush supporter...but he didn't create 9/11.:|LJS9502_basic

He didn't hey? Don't you think it's kind of weird they never caught Osama? They have extremely smart people in USA like fbi agents who can find anyone almost, but they can't find Osama? Yeah right, Bush created them all. He made 9/11 happen, he needed a reason to attack all these countrys and say they are all terroists. Bush doesn't care about the USA people, all he cares about war and trying to take over all other countrys, but that is not smart at all.

Proof? Anyone can rant and offer opinions....backing them up is the difficulty.

There is proof, a terroist attack happens, next day bush declares war. Then he blames most of the middle east countrys for terroists, then he starts attacking. His dad wanted to attack Iraq so he just figures he will get the job done, but yeah Bush did create 9/11 to create all these wars. He also rigged the voting system so he would win, trust me not that many people would vote for him.

Next day?....no.

Uh yeah, the next day he like declared war on terrorists. Don't you remember at all? I can remember the next day he automatically suspected it was Osama and terrorists, with not really much proof because the terrorists were dead. Doesn't that seem a little weird to you?

Uh yeah, the next day he like declared war on terrorists. Don't you remember at all? I can remember the next day he automatically suspected it was Osama and terrorists, with not really much proof because the terrorists were dead. Doesn't that seem a little weird to you?

joshmackman

You were speaking of Iraq....I was referring to the Iraq War....I don't remember when they found out exactly who was responsible for 9/11. Acually Osama admitted to it at some point...proof enough? No it's not weird that the terrorists were dead...the flew into buildings.:|

Uh yeah, the next day he like declared war on terrorists. Don't you remember at all? I can remember the next day he automatically suspected it was Osama and terrorists, with not really much proof because the terrorists were dead. Doesn't that seem a little weird to you?

Uh yeah, the next day he like declared war on terrorists. Don't you remember at all? I can remember the next day he automatically suspected it was Osama and terrorists, with not really much proof because the terrorists were dead. Doesn't that seem a little weird to you?

joshmackman

Oh yeah no proof except that they admitted it, they had attacked us before(even the world trade center before), they wanted to attack us, the tons of evidence from the attack like the cell phone calls from flight 93 saying there were terrorists and so much more, your right no proof at all

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[QUOTE="tomxizor"]I was never for him, but I was never against him. Right now, he's just someone preventing the US from getting nuked, carpet-bombed, or attacked until the next election. Hell, he's better than the Clinton Administration, both Bill and Hillary. :|LS07

actually Bill did quite a lot of good things especially enviormentally setting aside the whole sex scandal deal he wasnt half bad and hes done even more good as former president

what about the fact that clinton was approached 3 times during his administation with opportunities to eliminate Osama, and he turned them all down, and they were all after the 93 bombing so we knew he was a threat

im not saying he did everything right plus i believe Osama was only implicated at the time but i am saying he did a lot right and that is a hell of a lot more than Bush can say

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Uh yeah, the next day he like declared war on terrorists. Don't you remember at all? I can remember the next day he automatically suspected it was Osama and terrorists, with not really much proof because the terrorists were dead. Doesn't that seem a little weird to you?

LJS9502_basic

You were speaking of Iraq....I was referring to the Iraq War....I don't remember when they found out exactly who was responsible for 9/11. Acually Osama admitted to it at some point...proof enough? No it's not weird that the terrorists were dead...the flew into buildings.:|

Okay well i was speaking of all the wars bush has created, and yes i think he did create 9/11 just so he had an excuse to invade Iraq, and now hes about to move onto Iran. That is not what i called weird that they were dead, what i called weird was that the next day Bush was saying he already know who did all those attacks, and yes they were at war about the next day.

George Bush wouldn't have been reelected if not for 9/11. George Bush is a disgrace but it's only the tip of the iceberg.

[QUOTE="joshmackman"]

Uh yeah, the next day he like declared war on terrorists. Don't you remember at all? I can remember the next day he automatically suspected it was Osama and terrorists, with not really much proof because the terrorists were dead. Doesn't that seem a little weird to you?

LJS9502_basic

You were speaking of Iraq....I was referring to the Iraq War....I don't remember when they found out exactly who was responsible for 9/11. Acually Osama admitted to it at some point...proof enough? No it's not weird that the terrorists were dead...the flew into buildings.:|

Basic has a pointthey did show us a video with Osama admitting he did that

I don't support Bush, or many of his policies.

So George bush, in my opinion is one of the worst president's i have ever seen. I think he created 9/11, he just wanted more reasons to attack the other country's such as Iraq, and Iran and now it looks like he is getting his wish. I just also heard that Hillary Clinton wants George Bush to invade Iran. Do Americans remember how when france didn't go to fight the war against Iraq, and people were saying rude things about France, well looks like they made a smart decision because USA can't seem to end the war in Iraq. So has George bush made a horrible decision?

Who here would actually support George bush, and the way he is with wanting to invade all these country's. I can't wait until the new president is in. Like what is the reason for invading Iran? Iran isn't a threatening country, For some reason bush thinks every country is evil it seems. Obviously one day there will be a new super power, probably Russia. Unless the next president isn't for war. I watched this program, and someone said how most wars that occur, America is always involved in them. It does seem true, but George bush seems to be the worst for creating wars. So what about everyone here? Are you for George Bush or against him?

joshmackman

Everything I highlighted is wrong. Bush did not create 9/11 and there are a million more reasons to support that than there are to support a conspiracy. Bush didn't need 9/11 to go into Iraq, Saddam has done 100 other things, and Al Quaeda has done 100 other things. The U.S. is in fact winning in Iraq, unfortunately most of the media refuses to report it, because they essentially hate America, and show it by what they report. Iran is a threat, their president already declared that he wants to eradicate both Israel and the United States, and they sponsor terrorism in general, and supply insurgents in Iraq with weapons.

And Russia will not be a superpower...that's laughable, especially if Putin keeps consolidating the government, because it will have the same effect it had in the old Soviet Union. If anything, it will be China.

Anyways, I support most of what Bush has done, other than his immigration policy, pardoning scooter libby, and a few other things. My only complaint about Iraq is that we didn't initially send thousands more troops and weapons over there...we should have done it quick, and we could have if it wasn't for Donald Rumsfeld.

you still haven't answered me, why are we in afghanistan? In case you forgot thats where we went first, why would we want to go to war with a country that has nothing we want, all afghanistan has is rocks, sand, and people who want to kill usLS07

Are you serious dude? Do you know anything? Osama bin Laden had been living in Afghanistan since the mid-90's when he had to leave Sudan after an assasination attempt. He was there in the 80's also, fighting the Soviets and providing aid to Afghan refugees in Pakistan just across the border (back when we were still giving them weapons to fight RUssia). That's where his Al Quaeda training grounds were (before we bombed them all to hell), and that's where he and Al-Zawahiri hooked up and started their media campaign, as well as their strikes against the Saudis and America. He helped instate the Taliban there, so he would have an Islamic fundmentalist regime to hide behind. That's why we bombed Afghanistan, it was the center of just about everything.

Even Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama still support the war in Afghanistan. Nobody ever had any reason to be against it. Go do some reading.