Who is more hardcore Army Rangers or British Royal Marines?

i think this would be a pretty close battle..

Seals are overrated compared to other Special Forces.

And yea I'd say Rangers but that's probly because I'm american.They are both techincally the same just different countries.

Why the royal marines? The SAS are the most hardcore 8)

Probably the Royal Marines. There's only a few thousand of them

Power Rangers can take them both on. mrmusicman247

I lol'ed. :lol:

Royal Marines by far,

These guys are pretty much entirely made up of Commandoes and pretty much all of them have received commando training, that plus their experience and reputation should be more than enough to warrant them more hardcore than the Rangers,

Also if you count that the RM are also made up of, The Special Boat Service, the SBS is by far one of the greatest special forces to walk the planet and are on par with the SAS if not better,

Once again the Royal Marines by far,

I have no clue. I assume everyone will vote for their home country's forces. Go third grade mentality!

Royal Marines by far,

These guys are pretty much entirely made up of Commandoes and pretty much all of them have received commando training, that plus their experience and reputation should be more than enough to warrant them more hardcore than the Rangers,

Also if you count that the RM are also made up of, The Special Boat Service, the SBS is by far one of the greatest special forces to walk the planet and are on par with the SAS if not better,

Once again the Royal Marines by far,

sonofsmeagle

The United States Marines would crush them. Just look at this fine example of U.S. Marine strength.

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Royal Marines by far,

These guys are pretty much entirely made up of Commandoes and pretty much all of them have received commando training, that plus their experience and reputation should be more than enough to warrant them more hardcore than the Rangers,

Also if you count that the RM are also made up of, The Special Boat Service, the SBS is by far one of the greatest special forces to walk the planet and are on par with the SAS if not better,

Once again the Royal Marines by far,

The United States Marines would crush them. Just look at this fine example of U.S. Marine strength.

People are just going to vote based on their politics or country of origin. There isn't any way of measuring who is more "hardcore".

I'm from America, so obviously the Army Rangers are better.

Royal Marines by far,

These guys are pretty much entirely made up of Commandoes and pretty much all of them have received commando training, that plus their experience and reputation should be more than enough to warrant them more hardcore than the Rangers,

Also if you count that the RM are also made up of, The Special Boat Service, the SBS is by far one of the greatest special forces to walk the planet and are on par with the SAS if not better,

Once again the Royal Marines by far,

sonofsmeagle

I think a Rangers/D-force Vs. SAS discussion is more plausible.

People are just going to vote based on their politics or country of origin. There isn't any way of measuring who is more "hardcore".

UnknownSniper65

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Royal Marines by far,

These guys are pretty much entirely made up of Commandoes and pretty much all of them have received commando training, that plus their experience and reputation should be more than enough to warrant them more hardcore than the Rangers,

Also if you count that the RM are also made up of, The Special Boat Service, the SBS is by far one of the greatest special forces to walk the planet and are on par with the SAS if not better,

Once again the Royal Marines by far,

Tetrarch9

I think a Rangers/D-force Vs. SAS discussion is more plausible.

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[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]

Royal Marines by far,

These guys are pretty much entirely made up of Commandoes and pretty much all of them have received commando training, that plus their experience and reputation should be more than enough to warrant them more hardcore than the Rangers,

Also if you count that the RM are also made up of, The Special Boat Service, the SBS is by far one of the greatest special forces to walk the planet and are on par with the SAS if not better,

Once again the Royal Marines by far,

DivergeUnify

I think a Rangers/D-force Vs. SAS discussion is more plausible.

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The S.A.S. would smash them both.

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]

Royal Marines by far,

These guys are pretty much entirely made up of Commandoes and pretty much all of them have received commando training, that plus their experience and reputation should be more than enough to warrant them more hardcore than the Rangers,

Also if you count that the RM are also made up of, The Special Boat Service, the SBS is by far one of the greatest special forces to walk the planet and are on par with the SAS if not better,

Once again the Royal Marines by far,

I think a Rangers/D-force Vs. SAS discussion is more plausible.

Nobody can beat the 'mericans.

I don't know much about the Royal Marines, so I really can't comment. I imagine that the Rangers are much smaller and have a much larger training budget per man, but I really have nothing to base that on.

Power Rangers FTW

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[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]

Royal Marines by far,

These guys are pretty much entirely made up of Commandoes and pretty much all of them have received commando training, that plus their experience and reputation should be more than enough to warrant them more hardcore than the Rangers,

Also if you count that the RM are also made up of, The Special Boat Service, the SBS is by far one of the greatest special forces to walk the planet and are on par with the SAS if not better,

Once again the Royal Marines by far,

sonofsmeagle

I think a Rangers/D-force Vs. SAS discussion is more plausible.

what i was saying is this is suppose to be for a project.

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"][QUOTE="Tetrarch9"] Ya.. Go look up ranger school/training on Youtube and see if you change your mind. The rangers are elite shock troopers. They shouldn't be in a discussion with Royal Marines. While Vise versa if you said USMC is more hardcore then the SAS I'd laugh.

I think a Rangers/D-force Vs. SAS discussion is more plausible.

Tetrarch9

Well at least you'd hope they'd be decent chefs with that amount of training. If you're going to war gotta make sure you eat properly first.

what i was saying is this is suppose to be for a project.

MiloZEgamer34

The training to become a Royal Marine is about 230 days compared to the 61 day ranger course...sonofsmeagle

To become Ranger qualified, a person has to pass the following:

• Basic Training: Eight weeks
• Infantry Training: Six weeks
• Ranger School: Eight weeks

To be in Ranger battalion, add to that:

• Airborne School: Three weeks
• Ranger Assessment and Selection: Eight weeks

That's the absolute minimum. Often a person will have spent time in a regular infantry unit prior to going to Ranger battalion. Guys who to to Ranger Bn. from Basic will spend time training in a Ranger unit before they go to Ranger school. Usually this is in the neighborhood of a year and a half.

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"][QUOTE="Tetrarch9"] Ya.. Go look up ranger school/training on Youtube and see if you change your mind. The rangers are elite shock troopers. They shouldn't be in a discussion with Royal Marines. While Vise versa if you said USMC is more hardcore then the SAS I'd laugh.

I think a Rangers/D-force Vs. SAS discussion is more plausible.

Tetrarch9

I shouldnt even bother to argue with you, Training would lose its relevance after 90 days? yeh thats why every special forces unit in the world only trains once and doesnt train anymore to become better and advanced in every situation that presents its self,

And it doesnt matter if your a clerk or cook your still by far the best trained clerk or cook there is and if the RM ever lost alot of men you'd have the training to step right into the fray,

and the marines havnt had any serious engagements since WW2? you gotta be kidding me

Korea? Egypt you know the Suez?, Bosnia?, Siera Leon? Congo? The Gulf? Afghanistan? The falklands?

Also the Royal Marines are pretty much the true meaning of Un-officail special forces, they can match the rangers any day, and did you just say that you would compare the SBS (part of the RM) and SAS with rangers? clearly yor patriotism is your only significant arguement :lol:

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[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]

Royal Marines by far,

These guys are pretty much entirely made up of Commandoes and pretty much all of them have received commando training, that plus their experience and reputation should be more than enough to warrant them more hardcore than the Rangers,

Also if you count that the RM are also made up of, The Special Boat Service, the SBS is by far one of the greatest special forces to walk the planet and are on par with the SAS if not better,

Once again the Royal Marines by far,

sonofsmeagle

I think a Rangers/D-force Vs. SAS discussion is more plausible.

Ranger Tab =/= member of 75th Ranger Regiment

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]The training to become a Royal Marine is about 230 days compared to the 61 day ranger course...Palantas

To become Ranger qualified, a person has to pass the following:

• Basic Training: Eight weeks
• Infantry Training: Six weeks
• Ranger School: Eight weeks

To be in Ranger battalion, add to that:

• Airborne School: Three weeks
• Ranger Assessment and Selection: Eight weeks

That's the absolute minimum. Often a person will have spent time in a regular infantry unit prior to going to Ranger battalion. Guys who to to Ranger Bn. from Basic will spend time training in a Ranger unit before they go to Ranger school. Usually this is in the neighborhood of a year and a half.

[QUOTE="Palantas"]

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]The training to become a Royal Marine is about 230 days compared to the 61 day ranger course...MiloZEgamer34

To become Ranger qualified, a person has to pass the following:

• Basic Training: Eight weeks
• Infantry Training: Six weeks
• Ranger School: Eight weeks

To be in Ranger battalion, add to that:

• Airborne School: Three weeks
• Ranger Assessment and Selection: Eight weeks

That's the absolute minimum. Often a person will have spent time in a regular infantry unit prior to going to Ranger battalion. Guys who to to Ranger Bn. from Basic will spend time training in a Ranger unit before they go to Ranger school. Usually this is in the neighborhood of a year and a half.

They burned down the white house, so I would assume they were.

They both pretty much serve the purpose of elite rifleman soldiers, but with slightly different pros

Rangers specialize in ground and air.

Royal marines specialize in naval.

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[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"] Are you really counting the RM out that easy hahahahahhaa You think that because the rangers show their training exercises on youtube and discovery channel and they look hard that they are instantly the best? The training to become a Royal Marine is about 230 days compared to the 61 day ranger course, so if we're counting who is better because of training then i'd say the RM, And not even mentioning the SBS who alone are better than the Rangers,Berets and Delta force,sonofsmeagle

I shouldnt even bother to argue with you, Training would lose its relevance after 90 days? yeh thats why every special forces unit in the world only trains once and doesnt train anymore to become better and advanced in every situation that presents its self,

And it doesnt matter if your a clerk or cook your still by far the best trained clerk or cook there is and if the RM ever lost alot of men you'd have the training to step right into the fray,

and the marines havnt had any serious engagements since WW2? you gotta be kidding me

Korea? Egypt you know the Suez?, Bosnia?, Siera Leon? Congo? The Gulf? Afghanistan? The falklands?

Also the Royal Marines are pretty much the true meaning of Un-officail special forces, they can match the rangers any day, and did you just say that you would compare the SBS (part of the RM) and SAS with rangers? clearly yor patriotism is your only significant arguement :lol:

Yeah, I'm just going to go with the Army Rangers.

the usmc is based off of the royal marines...so they would be a better comparison...also...rangers are like the low man on the totem pole of spec ops...and in combat...the guy shootin at u doesnt care if ur a ranger or a delta operative...bullets still hurt

[QUOTE="MiloZEgamer34"][QUOTE="Palantas"]

To become Ranger qualified, a person has to pass the following:

• Basic Training: Eight weeks
• Infantry Training: Six weeks
• Ranger School: Eight weeks

To be in Ranger battalion, add to that:

• Airborne School: Three weeks
• Ranger Assessment and Selection: Eight weeks

That's the absolute minimum. Often a person will have spent time in a regular infantry unit prior to going to Ranger battalion. Guys who to to Ranger Bn. from Basic will spend time training in a Ranger unit before they go to Ranger school. Usually this is in the neighborhood of a year and a half.

UnknownSniper65

They burned down the white house, so I would assume they were.

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[QUOTE="MiloZEgamer34"] ya looked that up. Were the British Royal Marines around in the Colonial times?? DivergeUnify

They burned down the white house, so I would assume they were.

Marines. Marines include elite commandos on par with Green Berets whilst Rangers are known for making a lot of noise also they have the SBS which is on par with the SAS. Royal Marines come attached to Royal Navy ships, helicopters, logistics ect, Rangers by themselves would be stuck in the US twidling their thumbs.markop2003

That didn't really make sense the 75th Ranger Regiment is one of the most mobile units the US Army. They've been among the first soldiers parachuted into war zones several times now.

While some others don't agree, they both are pretty much elite shock infantry, so IMO its a fair comparison.

here's a little run down/some facts about the Royal Marine training.

They have the longest basic training regiment of any troop among NATO forces.

Specialists in Cold/Artic environments

Lead the NATO North Flank forces due to this^

While first and foremost a light/medium amphibious assault force, they do get Air training, as well as training for fighting in high altitude environments. Able to be deployed to fight in any terrain on short notice.

The basic training and commando course sections of the training take a total of 32 weeks.

Similar to other basic training, learning their tasks and duties, phyisical training focusing on strength, endurance, and flexability. performing more difficult tasks later on, often wearing a light combat load of 32 Ilbs.

The Commando course comes next, consists of more specialized training, at the end of it you have to pass 4 conescutive tests, given a maximum time of 1 week to complete. These are the nine Mile Speed March, Tarzan Assault Course, Endurance Course, and the 30 Miler.

Completing the course nets the Marines the Green Beret ( The green beret stems from British Commandos during WW2, just a fun fact)

From there regular Marines are sent to their units, and go on to get specialist training( a lot to pick from, far more than chef and clerk...)

Officers, reservists, and non-royal marines who complete the Commando course have more training/other options from that point on.

Your own research will net you more in-depth info. From what I have researched myself, and from what I know from people in both services, These guy stack up fairly evenly with The US Marine Force Recon, and the US Army Rangers. At least on paper.

Also like to add, the Royal Marines and the USMC have a special " Bond of Friendship" Might be something to check out.

While some others don't agree, they both are pretty much elite shock infantry, so IMO its a fair comparison.

here's a little run down/some facts about the Royal Marine training.

They have the longest basic training regiment of any troop among NATO forces.

Specialists in Cold/Artic environments

Lead the NATO North Flank forces due to this^

While first and foremost a light/medium amphibious assault force, they do get Air training, as well as training for fighting in high altitude environments. Able to be deployed to fight in any terrain on short notice.

The basic training and commando course sections of the training take a total of 32 weeks.

Similar to other basic training, learning their tasks and duties, phyisical training focusing on strength, endurance, and flexability. performing more difficult tasks later on, often wearing a light combat load of 32 Ilbs.

The Commando course comes next, consists of more specialized training, at the end of it you have to pass 4 conescutive tests, given a maximum time of 1 week to complete. These are the nine Mile Speed March, Tarzan Assault Course, Endurance Course, and the 30 Miler.

Completing the course nets the Marines the Green Beret ( The green beret stems from British Commandos during WW2, just a fun fact)

From there regular Marines are sent to their units, and go on to get specialist training( a lot to pick from, far more than chef and clerk...)

Officers, reservists, and non-royal marines who complete the Commando course have more training/other options from that point on.

Your own research will net you more in-depth info. From what I have researched myself, and from what I know from people in both services, These guy stack up fairly evenly with The US Marine Force Recon, and the US Army Rangers. At least on paper.

SamusFreak

No problem, I help how I can. Just wanted to give you some info, since everyone else has either just given info on the rangers, or acted like know it all asses because they think the Royal Marines tower over other military groups. Doesn't really help you get information on them :P

really though, the whole who's more "hardcore" thing doesn't make much sense, or really work. For something along those lines, you'd need to go by Training as a basis, or get two vetren units of each and compare their accomplishments/feats.

Power Rangers can take them both on. mrmusicman247

indeed

Rangers lead the way

The ranger are the elite shock troops in the US army, they were made as the USA verision of the SAS in WWII.

often wearing a light combat load of 32 Ilbs.

SamusFreak

This is a lot?