Who is more hardcore Army Rangers or British Royal Marines?

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Why the Rangers... . Pick something more L33t like Navy Seals or Green Berets.SuperToshibaMan

i agree... Navy Seals

but whats up with the voting?? i never heard of any British soldiers kicking ass...

for the 20th time its for a project.. MiloZEgamer34

To record the infant mentality circulating in gaming sites regarding guns and the people using them professionally?

If so- here's a good research title: "Swivel chair generals- the battle of Epeens".

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]

Royal Marines by far,

These guys are pretty much entirely made up of Commandoes and pretty much all of them have received commando training, that plus their experience and reputation should be more than enough to warrant them more hardcore than the Rangers,

Also if you count that the RM are also made up of, The Special Boat Service, the SBS is by far one of the greatest special forces to walk the planet and are on par with the SAS if not better,

Once again the Royal Marines by far,

Tetrarch9

I think a Rangers/D-force Vs. SAS discussion is more plausible.

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THGarrett

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]

[QUOTE="Tetrarch9"] I shouldn't even bother to argue with you. While training does matter. I think it would begin to lose its relevance after 90 days. And I looked under Commando specializations on the RM site. Chef and clerk are two of them. If I went through 230 days of training to be a clerk or cook meals for marines I'd shoot myself. Also when is the last time the RM have had any serious engagements since WWII. And the RM aren't even Special forces. Just troops. While I could see an arguement for the SBS or SAS I can't put the RM on the level of Rangers. USMC yes but not rangers.

AFBrat77

I shouldnt even bother to argue with you, Training would lose its relevance after 90 days? yeh thats why every special forces unit in the world only trains once and doesnt train anymore to become better and advanced in every situation that presents its self,

And it doesnt matter if your a clerk or cook your still by far the best trained clerk or cook there is and if the RM ever lost alot of men you'd have the training to step right into the fray,

and the marines havnt had any serious engagements since WW2? you gotta be kidding me

Korea? Egypt you know the Suez?, Bosnia?, Siera Leon? Congo? The Gulf? Afghanistan? The falklands?

Also the Royal Marines are pretty much the true meaning of Un-officail special forces, they can match the rangers any day, and did you just say that you would compare the SBS (part of the RM) and SAS with rangers? clearly yor patriotism is your only significant arguement:lol:

trust me my friend you tend to be patriotic to a fault as well, as do I at times. It seems anything British to you is best, often without examination. We've been posting together long enough on similar posts to know this. Just saying.

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]

I shouldnt even bother to argue with you, Training would lose its relevance after 90 days? yeh thats why every special forces unit in the world only trains once and doesnt train anymore to become better and advanced in every situation that presents its self,

And it doesnt matter if your a clerk or cook your still by far the best trained clerk or cook there is and if the RM ever lost alot of men you'd have the training to step right into the fray,

and the marines havnt had any serious engagements since WW2? you gotta be kidding me

Korea? Egypt you know the Suez?, Bosnia?, Siera Leon? Congo? The Gulf? Afghanistan? The falklands?

Also the Royal Marines are pretty much the true meaning of Un-officail special forces, they can match the rangers any day, and did you just say that you would compare the SBS (part of the RM) and SAS with rangers? clearly yor patriotism is your only significant arguement:lol:

sonofsmeagle

trust me my friend you tend to be patriotic to a fault as well, as do I at times. It seems anything British to you is best, often without examination. We've been posting together long enough on similar posts to know this. Just saying.

Honestly though, you'd find that Americans aren't really as different from other people from other countries as you think, if you met us in real life. Americans are probably more agressive than most though, its how we are brought up to "get ahead" in a capitalist society. I personally don't like it usually, especially those who "get ahead" at other's expense, which in my opinion is an act of evil.

But remember, our nation is composed of so many different people from so many different countries (mostly European countries actually) of origins that really we can all be traced back elsewhere, often times after 1900. A melting pot indeed.

I do prefer British humor over American humor usually though ;)

Basic drills that just about any comabt troop go through, some specific things they have to do would be like a "battle simulator swim" and another where they are in the water and have to climb out, up a rope. Full gear depends on the individual, but stuff like Ammo, equipment, supplies, etc. I gave some general info to the TC who was asking for it, If you want to know more, do your own research.

SamusFreak

I don't need to do research. I was in the Army for a decade, and I'm a security consultant now. I just wanted to see if you know what you're talking about.

[QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

Basic drills that just about any comabt troop go through, some specific things they have to do would be like a "battle simulator swim" and another where they are in the water and have to climb out, up a rope. Full gear depends on the individual, but stuff like Ammo, equipment, supplies, etc. I gave some general info to the TC who was asking for it, If you want to know more, do your own research.

Palantas

I don't need to do research. I was in the Army for a decade, and I'm a security consultant now. I just wanted to see if you know what you're talking about.

Plenty of people in here that went " RANGERS!" or "ROYAL MARINES!" Ask them why they picked them :P

Watch this, THEN decide.

It doesn't matter who is being compared to who, the American fighters will always come out on top.

Exactly Rangers and SAS are both Airborne. Makes more sense.

Tetrarch9

Explain this.

I shouldn't even bother to argue with you. While training does matter. I think it would begin to lose its relevance after 90 days. And I looked under Commando specializations on the RM site. Chef and clerk are two of them. If I went through 230 days of training to be a clerk or cook meals for marines I'd shoot myself. Also when is the last time the RM have had any serious engagements since WWII. And the RM aren't even Special forces. Just troops. While I could see an arguement for the SBS or SAS I can't put the RM on the level of Rangers. USMC yes but not rangers.

Tetrarch9

Explain this too.

Commandos are shock troops. Commandos trained the first Rangers -.-'

chaplainDMK

Quite a few here do not know that fact. A good book about the formation of the Rangers, The Ranger Force, Darby's Rangers in World War II by Col. Robert W. Black, details their formation and training by British Commandos in Scotland. It really is a good read.

Oh yeah, for those thinking the Rangers have been around for awhile, the Rangers were first formed in 1942.