Who is your favorite "anti-hero" character?

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#101 Beard_
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V from V for Vendetta would probably be my first choice.

Dr. Horrible would be a runner up.

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#102 deactivated-5f9961afa4a79
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Spawn. . . V is cool too.

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#103 foxhound_fox
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Max Payne, Batman, Richard B. Riddick and Ezio Auditore da Firenze. I think a lot of people don't know what an "antihero" really is. They aren't an antagonist to other characters (like Magneto or the Joker), but the protagonist (or a protagonist among many/few) who doesn't fit the general "archetype" for normal "heroes." i.e. they do things that would generally be considered "bad" if done by an antagonist (such as things like murder, or breaking the law).

i'm gonna have to go with dinobot from beast wars.

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Oh hell yes!

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#104 Assassin1349
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Max Payne, Batman and Richard B. Riddick. I think a lot of people don't know what an "antihero" really is. They aren't an antagonist to other characters (like Magneto or the Joker), but the protagonist (or a protagonist among many/few) who doesn't fit the general "archetype" for normal "heroes." i.e. they do things that would generally be considered "bad" if done by an antagonist (such as things like murder, or breaking the law).

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i'm gonna have to go with dinobot from beast wars.

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Oh hell yes!

I don't think Batman fits the description for anti-hero.

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#105 MetroidPrimePwn
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I don't think Batman fits the description for anti-hero.

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There's been a lot of different Batmans over the years.

Different movie directors and comic writers have done Batman in quite a few different ways. Some times he almost nears paladin like levels of honor, other times he's downright Chaotic Evil.

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#106 foxhound_fox
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I don't think Batman fits the description for anti-hero.

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He is a vigilante he violates the law to do what needs to be done. He takes it upon himself to do what he thinks is "right" regardless of what others or the law even might think of it. That is what I believe in its essence is what an "antihero" is... someone who does whatever it takes to fulfill their goal, even if it breaks the law or even some greater moral absolute.

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#107 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Assassin1349"]I don't think Batman fits the description for anti-hero.

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He is a vigilante he violates the law to do what needs to be done. He takes it upon himself to do what he thinks is "right" regardless of what others or the law even might think of it. That is what I believe in its essence is what an "antihero" is... someone who does whatever it takes to fulfill their goal, even if it breaks the law or even some greater moral absolute.

Hence I listed Russian Superman, who definitely goes off the deep end.
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[QUOTE="HybridPhoenix"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Magneto is the protagonist in some comics.. And he does things and believes in things that the stereotypical hero does not do.. Hence he is a anti-hero.. Wolverine is a anti hero..

Magneto's more an anti-villain than an anti-hero.

Not really, in his mind, he's doing the right thing, and he's got reasons for acting how he is... He very well could be a hero to the mutants, it's just at the expense of the humans. Being that it's X-MEN and every character get's their shot at Protagonism, yes, he is an Anti Hero.

Indeed; during 80's crossover, Secret Wars when the omnipotent Beyonder grabbed a bunch of superfolks from Earth for silly gladiator combat, he placed Magneto with the heroes
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#109 gamedude2020
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patrick bateman is a murderer, not an anti hero

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#110 clayron
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[QUOTE="HybridPhoenix"][QUOTE="Ringx55"] These two are good too.II_Seraphim_II
Once again, he's not really a villain. He only goes after the XMEN when the XMEN get in his way, which technically make the xmen villains to Magneto's villains. I explained it in another post why he's an anti-hero (there's a many comics where he is the protagonist) so I won't get into again. I was thinking Dexter, but I don't really see him as a bad guy at all..he's like..a walking lethal injection..I really see him as 100% good guy..but I suppose he technically is. He would be my favorite.. Kratos on the other hand, definitely is...Light from Death Note, definitely is.

Nah Magneto is definitely in the villain category. While you might sympathize with him at times, he is clearly in the wrong. In the case of most Anti-Heroes, they may not be saving the world, heck, they might even be pretty bad themselves, but they are taking on an even more evil villain. Apart from the cases like Apocalypse, Magneto always has some plans to practically enslave or kill off the human race. I remember in the comic when he caused an EMP pulse disrupted all electrical equipment in the world causing the death of millions. I also remember the idiotic complains over Magneto (A Jewish man who had been to Auschwitz) causing the death of millions. It's was like just because he was in a concentration camp, he could do no wrong.... Anyways, Magneto is pretty evil. And remember when he pulls the adamantium out of Wolverine? definitely a villain.

Magento is an anti-hero. His whole motivation is to prevent what happened to the Jews (The Holocaust) from happening to mutants. He believes that homo-sapien will alwyas refuse to co-exist with what he calls "homo-superior". He is an anti-hero. He does not destroy for destruction sake (i.e. Joker, Apocalypse, Thanos). Magneto is literally trying to save his people from a threat that he feels only he can see. Also, I would vote for Venom. He just wants to be Spiderman so bad, its actually kind of sad.
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#111 branketra
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Nah Magneto is definitely in the villain category. While you might sympathize with him at times, he is clearly in the wrong. In the case of most Anti-Heroes, they may not be saving the world, heck, they might even be pretty bad themselves, but they are taking on an even more evil villain. Apart from the cases like Apocalypse, Magneto always has some plans to practically enslave or kill off the human race. I remember in the comic when he caused an EMP pulse disrupted all electrical equipment in the world causing the death of millions. I also remember the idiotic complains over Magneto (A Jewish man who had been to Auschwitz) causing the death of millions. It's was like just because he was in a concentration camp, he could do no wrong.... Anyways, Magneto is pretty evil. And remember when he pulls the adamantium out of Wolverine? definitely a villain.II_Seraphim_II
Actually, I hardly thought of the concentration camp at all. I was thinking about House of M, where Magneto uncovered a major world-governments' conspiracy to destroy all Mutants and forced the world to acknowledge Genosha as a sovereign nation.Yeah, pulling out Wolverine's adamantium was rough.

To an Ex-man, Magneto may be a good guy. To the Xmen, he's a villian.

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#112 branketra
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i'm gonna have to go with dinobot from beast wars.

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Uh..nevermind about Char...

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#113 Film-Guy
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patrick bateman is a murderer, not an anti hero

gamedude2020

Not according to the movie's ending:P Remember it could just be all in his mind. Then again that could be stretching the anti hero thing a bit. I still love that movie though.

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#114 Film-Guy
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[QUOTE="Assassin1349"]I don't think Batman fits the description for anti-hero.

foxhound_fox

He is a vigilante he violates the law to do what needs to be done. He takes it upon himself to do what he thinks is "right" regardless of what others or the law even might think of it. That is what I believe in its essence is what an "antihero" is... someone who does whatever it takes to fulfill their goal, even if it breaks the law or even some greater moral absolute.

By that definition would you call Dirty Harry a anti hero? He is a cop but he doesn't exactly pay attention to the law all the time.

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#115 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Assassin1349"]I don't think Batman fits the description for anti-hero.

Film-Guy

He is a vigilante he violates the law to do what needs to be done. He takes it upon himself to do what he thinks is "right" regardless of what others or the law even might think of it. That is what I believe in its essence is what an "antihero" is... someone who does whatever it takes to fulfill their goal, even if it breaks the law or even some greater moral absolute.

By that definition would you call Dirty Harry a anti hero? He is a cop but he doesn't exactly pay attention to the law all the time.

Batman flip-flops. Some of his methods become very drastic at times and other heroes have to step up to reign him in. In the Batman comics, he is usually the vigilante hero, not an anti-hero, but a hero, not sanctioned by the law, but accepted, like Spiderman. In other people's comics though, Batman is sometimes portrayed as being unstable and too violent at times. You know who pisses me off? Superman. He is always on Batman's case, but the truth is that Batman is human. He can be shot and killed. It's not like Superman who can afford to deal with all his foes in a nice manner because he is practically invulnerable. Also, Batman lives in Gotham City which is like the worst place on earth. Superman lives in Metropolis which is a pretty damn nice city of the future. I think Supes should be stripped of his powers and sent to Gotham for a year and lets see if he's still all sanctimonious.
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#116 Avistann
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Venom!!
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#117 antiredcap
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Travis Bickle- Taxi driver
Spawn
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#118 II_Seraphim_II
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Venom!!Avistann
COURAGE THE COWARDLY DOG!!!! Oh man I miss that show!!! :cry:
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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] He is a vigilante he violates the law to do what needs to be done. He takes it upon himself to do what he thinks is "right" regardless of what others or the law even might think of it. That is what I believe in its essence is what an "antihero" is... someone who does whatever it takes to fulfill their goal, even if it breaks the law or even some greater moral absolute.

II_Seraphim_II

By that definition would you call Dirty Harry a anti hero? He is a cop but he doesn't exactly pay attention to the law all the time.

Batman flip-flops. Some of his methods become very drastic at times and other heroes have to step up to reign him in. In the Batman comics, he is usually the vigilante hero, not an anti-hero, but a hero, not sanctioned by the law, but accepted, like Spiderman. In other people's comics though, Batman is sometimes portrayed as being unstable and too violent at times. You know who pisses me off? Superman. He is always on Batman's case, but the truth is that Batman is human. He can be shot and killed. It's not like Superman who can afford to deal with all his foes in a nice manner because he is practically invulnerable. Also, Batman lives in Gotham City which is like the worst place on earth. Superman lives in Metropolis which is a pretty damn nice city of the future. I think Supes should be stripped of his powers and sent to Gotham for a year and lets see if he's still all sanctimonious.

I find Superman boring most of the time. He is too nice, and almost unfairly powerful. I tend to find the less one dimensional characters more interesting. Heck maybe I dont know enough about superman but I usually can't stand him.

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#120 jun_aka_pekto
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Bill Paxton as Private Hudson in Aliens and Chet in Weird Science....

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Spawn, Lobo, Kratos.

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#122 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

By that definition would you call Dirty Harry a anti hero? He is a cop but he doesn't exactly pay attention to the law all the time.

Film-Guy

Batman flip-flops. Some of his methods become very drastic at times and other heroes have to step up to reign him in. In the Batman comics, he is usually the vigilante hero, not an anti-hero, but a hero, not sanctioned by the law, but accepted, like Spiderman. In other people's comics though, Batman is sometimes portrayed as being unstable and too violent at times. You know who pisses me off? Superman. He is always on Batman's case, but the truth is that Batman is human. He can be shot and killed. It's not like Superman who can afford to deal with all his foes in a nice manner because he is practically invulnerable. Also, Batman lives in Gotham City which is like the worst place on earth. Superman lives in Metropolis which is a pretty damn nice city of the future. I think Supes should be stripped of his powers and sent to Gotham for a year and lets see if he's still all sanctimonious.

I find Superman boring most of the time. He is too nice, and almost unfairly powerful. I tend to find the less one dimensional characters more interesting. Heck maybe I dont know enough about superman but I usually can't stand him.

Superman comics are a lot of fun, but yeah, for the most part he can seem 1D. The comics that take place before he is superman, showing him growing up are a bit more 3D since they show how he became the man he is. It shows him building his boy scout character and we can see his mistakes. The biggest tragedy of Superman's portrayal in the mainstream is the lack of mention of his hyper intelligence. Superman is from a highly advanced race where practically everyone was a genius. He is the son of the greatest mind of Krypton and considered a super genius by his race's standards, yet very few comics/movies/games ever play up this fact. More comics should play more on his intelligence. How Lex Luthor ever outsmarts him is beyond me. Superman is like 100x smarter than Lex and Batman put together, not to mention the fact that with his hyper senses, he could probably count from 1 to a million in the time it takes us to take a breath. So Super SUPER genius with computer-speed brain and eidetic memory? How does Lex ever get one over this guy? I would call for a nerf of his physical abilities, but they are so cemented in Comic history that it's too late to change any of that now. I guess just give him more alien bad guys who can really mess him up, like Doomsday.

EDIT: My comments refer to the older Superman comics. The recent ones have him nerfed mentally to make it more plausible but ironically it makes him less plausible. Son of the greatest mind of a hyper advanced race who gets out-smarted by a play boy millionare and some bald dude?

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V from V for Vendetta...
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Spawn! The movie wasn't great, but the comics are awesome...although i've only got 2...i still love it! http://www.cornerstonemag.com/imaginarium/movies/img/spawn.jpg
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#125 btaylor2404
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Not sure how many of these are "anti-hero's" but: Vader, Kratos, Tony Soprano, Dexter.
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#126 Theokhoth
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I'll be all around in the dark - I'll be everywhere. Wherever you can look - wherever there's a fight, so hungry people can eat, I'll be there. Wherever there's a cop beatin' up a guy, I'll be there. I'll be in the way guys yell when they're mad. I'll be in the way kids laugh when they're hungry and they know supper's ready, and when the people are eatin' the stuff they raise and livin' in the houses they build - I'll be there, too.

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#127 Espada12
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I guess arthas could count, but he became a villain in the end so I dunno if he counts.

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#128 Lord_Omikron666
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The epitome of an anti-hero.

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#129 Leejjohno
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Is Niko Bellic a good example? I always got the impression he was a good person on the inside but was far too jaded and grizzled to chase any kind of career outside of organised crime.

One way or another he is an unflinching killer when pressed, protective and loyal to family and friends, and a ruthless mercenary when at his worst.

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#130 dercoo
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The epitome of an anti-hero.

Lord_Omikron666

Why people don't recognize this is beyond me.

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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]Mersault in Camus' The Strangersuper_mario_128
Best be joking. I despise Meursault. :x

I hate him too! Although, that is one of my favorite books.
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#132 clayron
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Who is this "Alucard"?
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#133 Lord_Omikron666
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Who is this "Alucard"?clayron
He's only the vampire that slaughtered an army of 572 Nazi vampires and 2875 Vatican soldiers.
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#134 TyrantDragon55
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Vegeta from DBZ, he was just as poweful as goku (in GT anyway) but he wasn't affraid to get the job done.

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#135 dbowman
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Pat Bateman (american psycho)

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#136 LoG-Sacrament
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[QUOTE="clayron"]Who is this "Alucard"?Lord_Omikron666
He's only the vampire that slaughtered an army of 572 Nazi vampires and 2875 Vatican soldiers.

no wonder i never see nazi vampires anymore!
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[QUOTE="Lord_Omikron666"][QUOTE="clayron"]Who is this "Alucard"?LoG-Sacrament
He's only the vampire that slaughtered an army of 572 Nazi vampires and 2875 Vatican soldiers.

no wonder i never see nazi vampires anymore!

It's a good accomplishment on Alucard's resume.
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#138 dbowman
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[QUOTE="gamedude2020"]

patrick bateman is a murderer, not an anti hero

Film-Guy

Not according to the movie's ending:P Remember it could just be all in his mind. Then again that could be stretching the anti hero thing a bit. I still love that movie though.

The book is about 100 times better.

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Constantine.
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#140 dercoo
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Who is this "Alucard"?clayron

Spell the name backwards.

He is a character from the Hellsing series (simple the anti-twilight vampire series, it counterbalances the twilight failer)

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#141 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="HybridPhoenix"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Magneto's more an anti-villain than an anti-hero.xaos
Not really, in his mind, he's doing the right thing, and he's got reasons for acting how he is... He very well could be a hero to the mutants, it's just at the expense of the humans. Being that it's X-MEN and every character get's their shot at Protagonism, yes, he is an Anti Hero.

Indeed; during 80's crossover, Secret Wars when the omnipotent Beyonder grabbed a bunch of superfolks from Earth for silly gladiator combat, he placed Magneto with the heroes

Magneto was also the one who killed the super villian Apocalypse single handedly.

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#142 clayron
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[QUOTE="clayron"]Who is this "Alucard"?dercoo

Spell the name backwards.

He is a character from the Hellsing series (simple the anti-twilight vampire series, it counterbalances the twilight failer)

Would you highly recommend it?
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#143 Film-Guy
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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

[QUOTE="gamedude2020"]

patrick bateman is a murderer, not an anti hero

dbowman

Not according to the movie's ending:P Remember it could just be all in his mind. Then again that could be stretching the anti hero thing a bit. I still love that movie though.

The book is about 100 times better.

For some reason I didn't like the book as much. I have tried to get into Bret Easton Ellis but I just never liked him. His social commentary is pretty blunt and I find his writing bland and dull. He is nowhere near as good at satire as Anthony Burgess.

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I've always been entertained by the G-Man from Halflife

What are his motives? Is he even human? Who does he work for? Is he God? Or the Devil? NOBODY KNOWS! but what we do know is that he is not exactly a bad guy, but he seems to be doing many, many questionable things throughout this franchises history.

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#146 compost-mentis
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Max Payne

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#147 Lord_Omikron666
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="clayron"]Who is this "Alucard"?clayron

Spell the name backwards.

He is a character from the Hellsing series (simple the anti-twilight vampire series, it counterbalances the twilight failer)

Would you highly recommend it?

I would, but that's only my fanboyish love of the series talking. Either way, if you do try it out either read the manga or watch the OVA series, the 13 episode TV series is loosely based off the manga, so you won't get the fun, loveable Nazis that are in the other 2.
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#148 J-Man725
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The Man With No Name.

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#149 mrbojangles25
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Dexterhillelslovak

you know, I love Dexter. Its an amazing show

but he isnt anti enough. He is almost too good natured.

Yes, I know he has dark thoughts, beliefs, and principles and outside of his code he is essentially amoral. But his actions are that of a superhero imo, a good-natured assassin.

An antihero blows up a bus to save a city

An antihero kills bank robbers during his job time, then kills hookers (cuz he has a problem) on his downtime.

A hero kills bad people...Dexter kills bad people...Dexter is just a plain ol' hero.

That reminds me, one of my favorite antiheros was John Travolto from Swordfish. I love the movie, despite its crappy nature, and I thought Travolta's character was one of the most loveable badass antihero's ever. His whole philosophy was great:

Stanley(Jackman): War? Who are we at war with?
Gabriel(Travolta): Anyone who impinges on America's freedom. Terrorist states, Stanley. Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans

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#150 Im_single
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The Man With No Name.

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BAM! Win right here.