I doUrbanSpartan125
seriously? leave now!
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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"]I doMichaeltheCM
seriously? leave now!
Yeah seriously, although i dont agree with him on illegal immigration policies, i do agree with him on most everything else, and if Hillary Clinton wins the 2008 elections, i am leaving this country, i will not live in a socialist country.[QUOTE="jodamn"][QUOTE="shadowflume"]he was voted in twice, so, there it is.cametall
Some would say that America's voting system is broken. In the 2000 election, the (very slight) majority of people did not vote for Bush. Far too much value is placed on the few 'swing states.' It should be an election by popular vote.
The reason we use the electoral college is because California and a few New England states would be electing the president. So in a nation of 50 states 6 of them would be electing the nation's politicians.
Exactly
I support him. Are you saying Kerry would have been better?RoyTheViking
As much as I dislike Kerry, yes. Compared to Bush, he was the lesser of two evils.
Politicians in general are consumed with nothing but fulfilling their own self interest. Government by the people, for the people is now government by the people, for the elected official. How many raises have they voted themselves since the minimum wage was last raised?
Personally, I support President Bush, and I support our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. I do think that the military strategy at times has been questionable, but you know it is easy to be Monday morning quarterback. The economy is good, and I seem to be keeping more of my money that I make (which means I can buy more video games).
And we have no one else to blame for the rising costs of healthcare but ourselves. Well, let me take that back. I put a lot of the blame for rising healthcare costs on the lawyers who are looking to make a quick buck through frivolous lawsuits. I would also add pharmaceutical profiteering to that equation also.
But back to Capitol Hill. I believe that when it comes to our elected officials, most of America is extremely ignorant as to what goes on. If you really want to know your politicians, just tune in to C-SPAN. Yea, it may be boring to watch, but it may be worth seeing what your representatives are actually doing, or not doing, for you.
And just a note on my comment about our questionable military strategy. The reason we are struggling to win this war is because we are trying to fight a conventional war against unconventional people. The so called "Rules of Engagement" should not apply to these barbarians. How do think we won our independence from the British? If we had fought a straight up, conventional war against the Brits, we would have gotten creamed. The British lost to us because they would not change their tactics to adapt to our fighting style.
Wow, sorry to rant and rave so much :-)
Politicians in general are consumed with nothing but fulfilling their own self interest. Government by the people, for the people is now government by the people, for the elected official. How many raises have they voted themselves since the minimum wage was last raised?
Personally, I support President Bush, and I support our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. I do think that the military strategy at times has been questionable, but you know it is easy to be Monday morning quarterback. The economy is good, and I seem to be keeping more of my money that I make (which means I can buy more video games).
And we have no one else to blame for the rising costs of healthcare but ourselves. Well, let me take that back. I put a lot of the blame for rising healthcare costs on the lawyers who are looking to make a quick buck through frivolous lawsuits. I would also add pharmaceutical profiteering to that equation also.
But back to Capitol Hill. I believe that when it comes to our elected officials, most of America is extremely ignorant as to what goes on. If you really want to know your politicians, just tune in to C-SPAN. Yea, it may be boring to watch, but it may be worth seeing what your representatives are actually doing, or not doing, for you.
And just a note on my comment about our questionable military strategy. The reason we are struggling to win this war is because we are trying to fight a conventional war against unconventional people. The so called "Rules of Engagement" should not apply to these barbarians. How do think we won our independence from the British? If we had fought a straight up, conventional war against the Brits, we would have gotten creamed. The British lost to us because they would not change their tactics to adapt to our fighting style.
Wow, sorry to rant and rave so much :-)
Holywarriortim
Rant? That was the most elegant casually written short essay I've read.
[QUOTE="jodamn"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"]so lets say 25% of america didn't vote. Thats pathetic, and shows laziness. You are choosing your leader, and your government to make descions for you. If 25 percent of Americans voted against Bush you wouldn't be in this mess with Iraq.
jointed
I don't disagree that everyone that can vote, should. That wasn't my argument. My statement plainly contradicts that the Majority of America doesn't vote, which is far from the truth.
120 million US citizens participated in the 2004 presidental elections. America's current population is 300 million.
120 million is less than 50% of the population.
Only about 220 million Americans are of legal voting age.
True, but technically, his statement is still wrong....
True, but technically, we all know you assumed he was talking about the majority of American citizens of voting age.
We dont torture prisoners, we catch them in lies that is how we find out information from them. the ACLU is a bunch of hippies. Ans the last sentence is not true.UrbanSpartan125
HAHA Good joke my friend. We dont torture prisoners...LOL
[QUOTE="Holywarriortim"]Politicians in general are consumed with nothing but fulfilling their own self interest. Government by the people, for the people is now government by the people, for the elected official. How many raises have they voted themselves since the minimum wage was last raised?
Personally, I support President Bush, and I support our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. I do think that the military strategy at times has been questionable, but you know it is easy to be Monday morning quarterback. The economy is good, and I seem to be keeping more of my money that I make (which means I can buy more video games).
And we have no one else to blame for the rising costs of healthcare but ourselves. Well, let me take that back. I put a lot of the blame for rising healthcare costs on the lawyers who are looking to make a quick buck through frivolous lawsuits. I would also add pharmaceutical profiteering to that equation also.
But back to Capitol Hill. I believe that when it comes to our elected officials, most of America is extremely ignorant as to what goes on. If you really want to know your politicians, just tune in to C-SPAN. Yea, it may be boring to watch, but it may be worth seeing what your representatives are actually doing, or not doing, for you.
And just a note on my comment about our questionable military strategy. The reason we are struggling to win this war is because we are trying to fight a conventional war against unconventional people. The so called "Rules of Engagement" should not apply to these barbarians. How do think we won our independence from the British? If we had fought a straight up, conventional war against the Brits, we would have gotten creamed. The British lost to us because they would not change their tactics to adapt to our fighting style.
Wow, sorry to rant and rave so much :-)
cametall
Rant? That was the most elegant casually written short essay I've read.
Thank you, thank you very much :-)
I do not buy too much into politics but my opinion is this:
Our homeland has not been attacked since 2001, and everyone posting this I presume is still alive, so yeah, he may not be the best president in the world, but in reality he could be doing a lot worse. I thank him for at least trying to keep us safe in the good ol' US of A . (starts humming the national anthem):D
[QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"]so lets say 25% of america didn't vote. Thats pathetic, and shows laziness. You are choosing your leader, and your government to make descions for you. If 25 percent of Americans voted against Bush you wouldn't be in this mess with Iraq.
jointed
I don't disagree that everyone that can vote, should. That wasn't my argument. My statement plainly contradicts that the Majority of America doesn't vote, which is far from the truth.
120 million US citizens participated in the 2004 presidental elections. America's current population is 300 million.
120 million is less than 50% of the population.
I think he meant that percentage of eligible voters.
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