Who was the worst Imperialist country, United states or the Soviet Union?

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#51 Canvas_Of_Flesh
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[QUOTE="ItalStallion777"]give me a break. why is the US on that list?jaydough
The worst we've done is slavery. And that was 200 friggin years ago.

I'm not sure about that. I would put near annihilation of Native Americans higher than slavery. Judging by the current state in Africa, we probably did them a favor bringing them over here in the long run.

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#52 Dracargen
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The United States isn't an imperialistic country, unless you go by that definition that applies to just about every country on the friggin' planet.

Soviet Russia, and people who answered America? Learn some history.

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#53 hokies1313
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Soviet Union, the United States has never forcibly controlled a country, nor has it ever supressed rebellions in other nations, just so the ruling party could continue to be loyal.
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#54 JML897
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I understand it's cool to hate on America, but I don't see how anyone can think that we're worse than the Stalin-era USSR was.
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#55 EboyLOL
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Why either? It's clearly Mongolia.
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#56 KHfanboy2
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Germany, of cource.
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#57 EboyLOL
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Soviet Union, the United States has never forcibly controlled a country, nor has it ever supressed rebellions in other nations, just so the ruling party could continue to be loyal.hokies1313
Actually, it has way back in the very late 1800's. I forget which island nation it was, but there was a rebellion for their independence and the US had to suppress the rebels. I think the larger issue is how the US took over the land of millions of indians, though this could be considered colonization rather than imperialism. Either way, Mongolia still takes the cake as far as imperialism goes.
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#58 forgetwatyahear
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The u.s. only controls puerto rico and guamand wake,i think. That is three countries or territories. I don't know about Russia's imperialistic past but i say them.
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#59 EboyLOL
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The u.s. only controls puerto rico and guamand wake,i think. That is three countries or territories. I don't know about Russia's imperialistic past but i say them.forget
They took over parts of the middle east and annexed about half of Europe.

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The US...no doubt. What has the Soviet Union ever done? .......:roll:
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I think the US gets a bad rap because we have military bases in so many countries. We take up a few square miles in a few countries so then when people drive by them they think "damn imperialist swine" when in fact the bases are there to attack enemies and not the country theyre stationed in. If anything, those bases protect whatever country theyre in.
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#62 shivaskunk9mm
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I think the US gets a bad rap because we have military bases in so many countries. We take up a few square miles in a few countries so then when people drive by them they think "damn imperialist swine" when in fact the bases are there to attack enemies and not the country theyre stationed in. If anything, those bases protect whatever country theyre in.mrbojangles25
'scuse me? the overseas bases of the U.S are no where near large enough to provide any measure of protection from invaders. In fact the host country is expected to provide security for the troops stationed there. Those bases serve as forward bases for power projection and supply pit-stops..
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#63 H8sMikeMoore
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Who was/is the worst Imperialist Super Power, Current day United states or the Soviet Union? AndrewStar101

america isnt really that bad. We do some questionable stuff but of all the "mean" countries id have to say were more innocent than guilty.

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#64 FlaminDeath
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Ahhh, nothing like an obviously trolling topic.
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#65 Film-Guy
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16 people think The U.S is worse than the Soviet union:| My god I pity humanity.
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]I think the US gets a bad rap because we have military bases in so many countries. We take up a few square miles in a few countries so then when people drive by them they think "damn imperialist swine" when in fact the bases are there to attack enemies and not the country theyre stationed in. If anything, those bases protect whatever country theyre in.shivaskunk9mm
'scuse me? the overseas bases of the U.S are no where near large enough to provide any measure of protection from invaders. In fact the host country is expected to provide security for the troops stationed there. Those bases serve as forward bases for power projection and supply pit-stops..

ah yes, thats what we want you to believe.

but under each base is a horde of shark-headed cows...with lasers! Every base has a huge area underneath it with such monstrous warmaking bovinefish. Pray you never piss off the folks on those bases or you might find one in your bed at night :twisted:

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#67 Raged-wolverine
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the states
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#68 RKfromDownunder
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The USA has never been an overt imperialist country. They do their controlling in other ways.

Like supporting South American dictators, sending them weapons and instructors who then teach their armies how to rape and pillage hundreds of thousands of people who are 'suspected collaborators' with whoever is the current oposition.

The USSR used brute force to control. America used terrorism and dirty money. The USSR ultimately created more human missery but that does not excuse America. The average American has no idea what their government did during the cold war. They commited, indirectly, some of the worst crimes against humanity the world has ever seen, on par with genocide, as they frequently supported genocidal dictators.

And they called themselves Christians...

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#69 peter1191
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LOL everyone hates the US. Must I repeat that the USSR CONQUERED eastern europe, established puppet govs for its protection, attempted to prop up a puppet gov in Afganhistan, etc.? Communist gurellas (although not directly a soviet extension) were active everywhere from South America to Europe, Asia, the Middle East, Africa. The US, by definition of imperialism, has taken the Philippines, Puerto Rico, some Pacific Islands (Midway, Guam, American Samoa), and Cuba for a 20 year period (virtually) till the rejection of the Platt Amendment in 1933 under the "Good Neighbor"Policy

The Cold War, although the US suppported some nasty dictator (wrong in itself) was hardly imperialistic, only interventionist. Hell, when France proved rebellious in the West's solidarity, the US did nothing to stop it. Hell if I was president, & I was facing the worse threat in human history (USSR) and one of my "allies," were criticisting my efforts, I'd get pissed. Still, little happened. To make a long story short, if there is one thing the US has failed at, its imperialism. Sure, we conquered North America (the states) from the Indians & the few Mexicans living their, but the fact is, we are lousy imperialist by definition. USSR was far more successful: for 50 years, till 1991.