who would win in a bar fight, a champion boxer or a champion mma fighter?

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#1 scratch-o-hey
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other things consistent, same weight, same level of training, same level of skill, the only difference is their sport. Who would you think would win?

In my gym there's mma 101 and boxing 101, and im thinking of which class to take, which is the more practical choice?

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#2 ethanpaige
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in a bar fight probably MMA. All he'd have to do is get the boxer on the floor and it's as good as finished.

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Boxers are better athletes. They're better trained and better conditioned. But MMA training would be of better use to you, because I'm assuming you aren't a world cIass athlete. Boxing is a lot more controlled from a rules perspective, and less similar to a real fight. Not ALL boxers would beat ALL MMA fighters, but the top boxers would trash the top MMA fighters because the MMA fighter wouldn't be able to play to his strengths. There's no way an MMA fighter can beat a boxer standing up, so he's obviously going to try to fight him on the ground. But in order to get him on the ground he's going to have to come inside, and that's when he's going to get caught.
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#4 Sajedene
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Oh please... it's whoever can't take a blow to the head with a bottle/chair.
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#6 savebattery
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in a bar fight probably MMA. All he'd have to do is get the boxer on the floor and it's as good as finished.

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No way an MMA fighter gets a championship boxer on the ground in the first place. Boxers have better footwork, and you can't underestimate the effectiveness of a good jab. The boxer would keep his distance until the opportunity for a knockout arose, and even the best MMA fighters frequently lead with their chins and keep their hands down. MMA is still a young sport, and as a result you see a lot more reckless behavior. A good technical boxer would have no problem in the ring with even the best UFC fighters.
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I'd say the MMA fighter, because they're not completely screwed if taken out of one element of a fight.

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Oh please... it's whoever can't take a blow to the head with a bottle/chair. Sajedene
[In my experience the guys who reach for weapons more often than not get tagged before they can hit anyone with them. You don't really have a defense if you can't swing the weapon fast enough (like a chair). A bottle is a different story, though. Those definitely aren't hard to swing. But morons who try to swing chairs always get punched right in the jaw.
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Don't take MMA, it's so tedius to learn.

Boxing is like algebra and MMA is like Calculus.

Boxing would be better for you.

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"]Oh please... it's whoever can't take a blow to the head with a bottle/chair. savebattery
[In my experience the guys who reach for weapons more often than not get tagged before they can hit anyone with them. You don't really have a defense if you can't swing the weapon fast enough (like a chair). A bottle is a different story, though. Those definitely aren't hard to swing. But morons who try to swing chairs always get punched right in the jaw.

Thats why you reach for the weapons AFTER the person falls to the ground. Knock out ftw.
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MMA. Boxers only throw punches. In MMA, you throw punches, kicks, elbows, knees, and takedowns. In a no-rules bar fight, MMA would slaughter.
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#12 worthyofnote
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You win some, you lose some. No matter which style of combat you are trained in and to what level. Every dog has his day.

Boxers are trained to a porfessional manner to which your typical UFC trained fighters aren't, and vice versa. It all depends. On a case by case basis, each individual has a different training regimen. It all depends on who can seize an opportunity and control the outcome. Just because they're classically trained in a specific style with its own rules, doesn't mean they won't fight dirty to survive.

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The one that walks away wins.

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Muay Thai > MMA and boxing combined

Find a Muay Thai class and you won't regret it.

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"]Oh please... it's whoever can't take a blow to the head with a bottle/chair. savebattery
[In my experience the guys who reach for weapons more often than not get tagged before they can hit anyone with them. You don't really have a defense if you can't swing the weapon fast enough (like a chair). A bottle is a different story, though. Those definitely aren't hard to swing. But morons who try to swing chairs always get punched right in the jaw.

It also depends on who can create the distance and who can close the gap.
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It would definitely be an MMA fighter because boxers are trained for absolutely different things, they are definitely not trained with the aspects of mma in mind because let's face it we all know that mma has a much broader horizon when it comes to the strategies you can plan out and execute. Honestly I can't really imagine any top boxer beating some of the top mma fighters eg: fedor, or bas rutten

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MMA. Boxers only throw punches. In MMA, you throw punches, kicks, elbows, knees, and takedowns. In a no-rules bar fight, MMA would slaughter.bronxxbombers
If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]MMA. Boxers only throw punches. In MMA, you throw punches, kicks, elbows, knees, and takedowns. In a no-rules bar fight, MMA would slaughter.worthyofnote
If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?

Yeah but are they necessarily trained to take down someone with precision and use kicks?
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]MMA. Boxers only throw punches. In MMA, you throw punches, kicks, elbows, knees, and takedowns. In a no-rules bar fight, MMA would slaughter.worthyofnote
If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?

He very well could, but the MMA fighter would be better trained for kicking, elbowing, and kneeing.

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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]MMA. Boxers only throw punches. In MMA, you throw punches, kicks, elbows, knees, and takedowns. In a no-rules bar fight, MMA would slaughter.worthyofnote
If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?

Seriously... and people forget that boxers have endurance training (12 rounds vs 3 -5 rounds). Both have their strengths - both have their weaknesses.
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It would definitely be an MMA fighter because boxers are trained for absolutely different things, they are definitely not trained with the aspects of mma in mind because let's face it we all know that mma has a much broader horizon when it comes to the strategies you can plan out and execute. Honestly I can't really imagine any top boxer beating some of the top mma fighters eg: fedor, or bas rutten

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Vitali or Wladimir Klitschko would knock Fedor out within a round. They're much faster, and they have much better reach. Fedor can't fight them on their feet, so he's obviously going to have to try to get them on the ground. But since they have such a good defense, he's going to have to take a chance. And that's when Fedor gets knocked out.
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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]MMA. Boxers only throw punches. In MMA, you throw punches, kicks, elbows, knees, and takedowns. In a no-rules bar fight, MMA would slaughter.Bloodaxe726

If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?

He very well could, but the MMA fighter would be better trained for kicking, elbowing, and kneeing.

MMA fighters are trained to find the best movements/positions to get their oponents into submission. That is the training they have. Strength and endurance training will vary per individual.
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]MMA. Boxers only throw punches. In MMA, you throw punches, kicks, elbows, knees, and takedowns. In a no-rules bar fight, MMA would slaughter.worthyofnote
If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?

Fair point, but there not trained to do that, as are many MMA fighters.
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depends on the individual
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[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

[QUOTE="worthyofnote"] If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?Sajedene

He very well could, but the MMA fighter would be better trained for kicking, elbowing, and kneeing.

MMA fighters are trained to find the best movements/positions to get their oponents into submission. That is the training they have. Strength and endurance training will vary per individual.

Have you even watched an MMA match?

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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]MMA. Boxers only throw punches. In MMA, you throw punches, kicks, elbows, knees, and takedowns. In a no-rules bar fight, MMA would slaughter.Sajedene
If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?

Seriously... and people forget that boxers have endurance training (12 rounds vs 3 -5 rounds). Both have their strengths - both have their weaknesses.

Well thats kind of a ridiculous statement because even though MMA fights aren't as long as boxing fights they do train for endurance and much more, i've seen many of the things they do, just looking at the training routine makes me cringe. they train intensively.
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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]MMA. Boxers only throw punches. In MMA, you throw punches, kicks, elbows, knees, and takedowns. In a no-rules bar fight, MMA would slaughter.Bloodaxe726

If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?

He very well could, but the MMA fighter would be better trained for kicking, elbowing, and kneeing.

Doesn't matter. Kicking and elbowing is much too slow. Boxers hit much harder and much faster than MMA fighters. The ONLY chance an MMA fighter would have would be if he got the boxer on the ground, and I just don't see that happening. I don't see a way you could get close enough to Pacquiao, Mayweather, Marquez, or Klitschko to take them down without getting punched in the jaw. And without gloves, I'd hate to see what Vitali Klitschko's best punch would do to an MMA fighter, most of whom have no clue how to slip a punch.
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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]MMA. Boxers only throw punches. In MMA, you throw punches, kicks, elbows, knees, and takedowns. In a no-rules bar fight, MMA would slaughter.Iconic_D
If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?

Yeah but are they necessarily trained to take down someone with precision and use kicks?

Whose to say they couldn't have experience in another field of combat? Nowadays, most people involved in the martial arts incorporate other styles so they can find themselves a bit well rounded. I'm sure even some professional boxers wouldn't have a problem throwing a kick or two if they had to. It's instinct, not just what you have been trained to do.
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MMA fighters are trained to find the best movements/positions to get their oponents into submission. That is the training they have. Strength and endurance training will vary per individual.Sajedene
This is true, allow me to demonstrate these positions of submission on you.

Naked.

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

He very well could, but the MMA fighter would be better trained for kicking, elbowing, and kneeing.

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MMA fighters are trained to find the best movements/positions to get their oponents into submission. That is the training they have. Strength and endurance training will vary per individual.

Have you even watched an MMA match?

Yes I have... I can kick as high as Cro Cop. I have had training in Tae Kwon Do. And I play around with my bf doing jiu jitsu (I can do a proper triangle hold...) -- now does that mean I can beat someone up who has not had any training? Maybe... have you seen me? Lol.
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[QUOTE="Iconic_D"][QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="worthyofnote"] If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?

Seriously... and people forget that boxers have endurance training (12 rounds vs 3 -5 rounds). Both have their strengths - both have their weaknesses.

Well thats kind of a ridiculous statement because even though MMA fights aren't as long as boxing fights they do train for endurance and much more, i've seen many of the things they do, just looking at the training routine makes me cringe. they train intensively.

That they do. But overall a simple judgment cannot be made. It has to be examined on a case by case basis. As well as other factors. Does the boxer happen to have a few extra friends to back him up? I'm sure both would be out at the bars with close friends and not simply by themselves.
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[QUOTE="Iconic_D"][QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="worthyofnote"] If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?

Seriously... and people forget that boxers have endurance training (12 rounds vs 3 -5 rounds). Both have their strengths - both have their weaknesses.

Well thats kind of a ridiculous statement because even though MMA fights aren't as long as boxing fights they do train for endurance and much more, i've seen many of the things they do, just looking at the training routine makes me cringe. they train intensively.

No, she's absolutely correct. Look at the Lesnar/Mir fight; the two champions of the UFC heavyweight division BOTH had spare tires. They're great athletes, but they obviously don't do the cardio work that guys like Manny Pacquiao or Wlad Klitschko do. If you think Brock Lesnar runs 30 miles in a day of training, you're pretty naive.
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It would definitely be an MMA fighter because boxers are trained for absolutely different things, they are definitely not trained with the aspects of mma in mind because let's face it we all know that mma has a much broader horizon when it comes to the strategies you can plan out and execute. Honestly I can't really imagine any top boxer beating some of the top mma fighters eg: fedor, or bas rutten

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Vitali or Wladimir Klitschko would knock Fedor out within a round. They're much faster, and they have much better reach. Fedor can't fight them on their feet, so he's obviously going to have to try to get them on the ground. But since they have such a good defense, he's going to have to take a chance. And that's when Fedor gets knocked out.

That really doesn't make much sense because a boxer is definitely not trained on how to defend against a shoot nor to defend against any transitions that an mma fighter moves in to. Theirs just so much more an mma fighter has in their arsenal
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as much as i love boxing, an mma fighter would probably win because he would know boxing as well as other stuff.
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as much as i love boxing, an mma fighter would probably win because he would know boxing as well as other stuff. pygmahia5
I wouldnt say that... A lot of MMA fighters know how to throw a punch... but they don't know how to box. Just like a boxer will know how to kick or pin someone down... but to do it the right way would be a different story. Even in MMA when two fighters with different training backgrounds fight you'll see one say keep trying to pin someone down to hold them while another will keep the distance with kicks but have them try to pin someone down or if they themselves are pinned down you can't help but facepalm at how they are positioning their legs and feet or where they turn to get out of a hold.
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That really doesn't make much sense because a boxer is definitely not trained on how to defend against a shoot nor to defend against any transitions that an mma fighter moves in to. Theirs just so much more an mma fighter has in their arsenalIconic_D
True. MMA fighters are trained to fight in all aspects, whereas a boxer is traditionally trained to fight face to face above the belt. However, boxers constantly train themselves for speed and power. Just check this vid out to see how much power punches in a few fighting styles typically generate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfnGkV6qmTw

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[QUOTE="pygmahia5"]as much as i love boxing, an mma fighter would probably win because he would know boxing as well as other stuff. Sajedene
I wouldnt say that... A lot of MMA fighters know how to throw a punch... but they don't know how to box. Just like a boxer will know how to kick or pin someone down... but to do it the right way would be a different story. Even in MMA when two fighters with different training backgrounds fight you'll see one say keep trying to pin someone down to hold them while another will keep the distance with kicks but have them try to pin someone down or if they themselves are pinned down you can't help but facepalm at how they are positioning their legs and feet or where they turn to get out of a hold.

are you saying that boxers CAN or CAN'T kick or pin someone down?
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="Iconic_D"]

It would definitely be an MMA fighter because boxers are trained for absolutely different things, they are definitely not trained with the aspects of mma in mind because let's face it we all know that mma has a much broader horizon when it comes to the strategies you can plan out and execute. Honestly I can't really imagine any top boxer beating some of the top mma fighters eg: fedor, or bas rutten

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Vitali or Wladimir Klitschko would knock Fedor out within a round. They're much faster, and they have much better reach. Fedor can't fight them on their feet, so he's obviously going to have to try to get them on the ground. But since they have such a good defense, he's going to have to take a chance. And that's when Fedor gets knocked out.

That really doesn't make much sense because a boxer is definitely not trained on how to defend against a shoot nor to defend against any transitions that an mma fighter moves in to. Theirs just so much more an mma fighter has in their arsenal

First off, being trained in lots of things doesn't necessarily make one good at them. Second, in order to shoot one would have to catch the boxer. Boxers dance and move laterally their entire fights, and they jab to keep their distances. Shooting the knee is an action that is very easy to predict; the boxer is going to sidestep every time the MMA fighter tries it. MMA at this stage in its development is still very sloppy.
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="Iconic_D"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Seriously... and people forget that boxers have endurance training (12 rounds vs 3 -5 rounds). Both have their strengths - both have their weaknesses.

Well thats kind of a ridiculous statement because even though MMA fights aren't as long as boxing fights they do train for endurance and much more, i've seen many of the things they do, just looking at the training routine makes me cringe. they train intensively.

No, she's absolutely correct. Look at the Lesnar/Mir fight; the two champions of the UFC heavyweight division BOTH had spare tires. They're great athletes, but they obviously don't do the cardio work that guys like Manny Pacquiao or Wlad Klitschko do. If you think Brock Lesnar runs 30 miles in a day of training, you're pretty naive.

First off I never had declared anywhere that I thought someone like Lesnar run's 30 miles a day because I know that is not true. and Second i will give you that a boxer's conditioning is a very important aspect in their training because of the amount of time that fights in boxing are meant to go on for but that is only one aspect out of a larger group, mma fighter's are trained for such vast quantity of training aspects, and that is mainly why I think an mma fighter would beat a boxer.
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"] MMA fighters are trained to find the best movements/positions to get their oponents into submission. That is the training they have. Strength and endurance training will vary per individual.Sajedene

Have you even watched an MMA match?

Yes I have... I can kick as high as Cro Cop. I have had training in Tae Kwon Do. And I play around with my bf doing jiu jitsu (I can do a proper triangle hold...) -- now does that mean I can beat someone up who has not had any training? Maybe... have you seen me? Lol.

MMA isn't about "postitions" or "movements."

It's about winning, whatever way you can, within the rules.

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="pygmahia5"]as much as i love boxing, an mma fighter would probably win because he would know boxing as well as other stuff. pygmahia5
I wouldnt say that... A lot of MMA fighters know how to throw a punch... but they don't know how to box. Just like a boxer will know how to kick or pin someone down... but to do it the right way would be a different story. Even in MMA when two fighters with different training backgrounds fight you'll see one say keep trying to pin someone down to hold them while another will keep the distance with kicks but have them try to pin someone down or if they themselves are pinned down you can't help but facepalm at how they are positioning their legs and feet or where they turn to get out of a hold.

are you saying that boxers CAN or CAN'T kick or pin someone down?

I think she is trying to say that individually fighters have the instinct to kick, punch, pin, etc etc. But each fighter has trained in a different background to allow them to develop the proper technique. In a fight between a boxer and someone who has trained in mma, it's all up to chance. Whoever can gain an advantage and seize the opportunity will control the outcome of the fight.
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#42 Never3ndingLife
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most probably the MMA
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#43 scratch-o-hey
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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"] If it's a no rules bar fight, whose to say the boxer won't bite, kick, claw, gouge, elbow, knee, and pound away?savebattery

He very well could, but the MMA fighter would be better trained for kicking, elbowing, and kneeing.

Doesn't matter. Kicking and elbowing is much too slow. Boxers hit much harder and much faster than MMA fighters. The ONLY chance an MMA fighter would have would be if he got the boxer on the ground, and I just don't see that happening. I don't see a way you could get close enough to Pacquiao, Mayweather, Marquez, or Klitschko to take them down without getting punched in the jaw. And without gloves, I'd hate to see what Vitali Klitschko's best punch would do to an MMA fighter, most of whom have no clue how to slip a punch.

good point, i've seen deadly punches with a boxing glove, i wonder how sever it would be without a glove.
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#44 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="pygmahia5"]as much as i love boxing, an mma fighter would probably win because he would know boxing as well as other stuff. pygmahia5
I wouldnt say that... A lot of MMA fighters know how to throw a punch... but they don't know how to box. Just like a boxer will know how to kick or pin someone down... but to do it the right way would be a different story. Even in MMA when two fighters with different training backgrounds fight you'll see one say keep trying to pin someone down to hold them while another will keep the distance with kicks but have them try to pin someone down or if they themselves are pinned down you can't help but facepalm at how they are positioning their legs and feet or where they turn to get out of a hold.

are you saying that boxers CAN or CAN'T kick or pin someone down?

Depends. They probably can... but it will vary per individual if they can hold it/do it properly to the point that they are inflicting the damage and not setting themselves up for a reversal of some sort.
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#45 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="avatar_genius"]

Have you even watched an MMA match?

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Yes I have... I can kick as high as Cro Cop. I have had training in Tae Kwon Do. And I play around with my bf doing jiu jitsu (I can do a proper triangle hold...) -- now does that mean I can beat someone up who has not had any training? Maybe... have you seen me? Lol.

MMA isn't about "postitions" or "movements."

It's about winning, whatever way you can, within the rules.

Same thing can be said about any sport... including boxing.
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Boxers are better athletes. They're better trained and better conditioned. But MMA training would be of better use to you, because I'm assuming you aren't a world cIass athlete. Boxing is a lot more controlled from a rules perspective, and less similar to a real fight. Not ALL boxers would beat ALL MMA fighters, but the top boxers would trash the top MMA fighters because the MMA fighter wouldn't be able to play to his strengths. There's no way an MMA fighter can beat a boxer standing up, so he's obviously going to try to fight him on the ground. But in order to get him on the ground he's going to have to come inside, and that's when he's going to get caught.savebattery

ever heard of a leg kick/sweep?

the boxer wouldn't know what to do.

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#47 worthyofnote
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MMA isn't about "postitions" or "movements."

It's about winning, whatever way you can, within the rules.

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As is with all sanctioned bouts of combat.

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#48 pygmahia5
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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="pygmahia5"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] I wouldnt say that... A lot of MMA fighters know how to throw a punch... but they don't know how to box. Just like a boxer will know how to kick or pin someone down... but to do it the right way would be a different story. Even in MMA when two fighters with different training backgrounds fight you'll see one say keep trying to pin someone down to hold them while another will keep the distance with kicks but have them try to pin someone down or if they themselves are pinned down you can't help but facepalm at how they are positioning their legs and feet or where they turn to get out of a hold.

are you saying that boxers CAN or CAN'T kick or pin someone down?

I think she is trying to say that individually fighters have the instinct to kick, punch, pin, etc etc. But each fighter has trained in a different background to allow them to develop the proper technique. In a fight between a boxer and someone who has trained in mma, it's all up to chance. Whoever can gain an advantage and seize the opportunity will control the outcome of the fight.

thats true, cuz maybe the boxer knocks the guy out before he can get him on the ground.
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#49 avatar_genius
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[QUOTE="avatar_genius"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"] Yes I have... I can kick as high as Cro Cop. I have had training in Tae Kwon Do. And I play around with my bf doing jiu jitsu (I can do a proper triangle hold...) -- now does that mean I can beat someone up who has not had any training? Maybe... have you seen me? Lol. Sajedene

MMA isn't about "postitions" or "movements."

It's about winning, whatever way you can, within the rules.

Same thing can be said about any sport... including boxing.

My point is, MMA isn't just positions and holds, there's striking involved too (and lots of it).

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#50 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="savebattery"]Boxers are better athletes. They're better trained and better conditioned. But MMA training would be of better use to you, because I'm assuming you aren't a world cIass athlete. Boxing is a lot more controlled from a rules perspective, and less similar to a real fight. Not ALL boxers would beat ALL MMA fighters, but the top boxers would trash the top MMA fighters because the MMA fighter wouldn't be able to play to his strengths. There's no way an MMA fighter can beat a boxer standing up, so he's obviously going to try to fight him on the ground. But in order to get him on the ground he's going to have to come inside, and that's when he's going to get caught.finesse-gamer

ever heard of a leg kick/sweep?

the boxer wouldn't know what to do.

And what if the boxer deals the first blow and its an instant KO? Really its all speculation depending on the individual. It's a BAR FIGHT... do you guys honestly think they'd bust out with their holds and leg kick and sweeps? Lol. It's LMS.