who would win in a bar fight, a champion boxer or a champion mma fighter?

[QUOTE="Iconic_D"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Yeah but what people are discussing right now is not really about a bar fight, were mainly trying to talk about who's strategies would be better and what their trained in doing.worthyofnote

also, i think people are taking the bar fight too literal. What i meant was just a no rules last man standing fight, so stop putting in bottles or chairs or whatever haha.scratch-o-hey

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"] I like them and respect them both. I've been to a few training sessions for each and they are all amazing athletes. But to put them in a bar fight and expect them to play by their sports rules is kinda funny.Sajedene

who would expect that?

they wouln't JUST use bottles and chairs though either. they'd use the training from each respective sport to win, and since both can fight dirty using bottles and chairs, but only one (the MMA fighter) has trained vigorously to work on his ground game as well as kicks and other moves not allowed in boxing, MMA fighters in general have the edge in everything except for boxing.

if anyone has seen many street fights, you guys would know that they almost always end up on the ground eventually. especially when you are drunk.

who's going to have the edge there?

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"] I like them and respect them both. I've been to a few training sessions for each and they are all amazing athletes. But to put them in a bar fight and expect them to play by their sports rules is kinda funny.Sajedene

who would expect that?

they wouln't JUST use bottles and chairs though either. they'd use the training from each respective sport to win, and since both can fight dirty using bottles and chairs, but only one (the MMA fighter) has trained vigorously to work on his ground game as well as kicks and other moves not allowed in boxing, MMA fighters in general have the edge in everything except for boxing.

if anyone has seen many street fights, you guys would know that they almost always end up on the ground eventually. especially when you are drunk.

who's going to have the edge there?

how do you know the MMA fighter wouldn't kick his legs out from under him before the boxer comes within arms length?

Well generally speaking if they were both on the same level I would think the MMA guy would usually come out of a bar fight the winner most of the time. I really don't see a boxer giving much game in that scenario.

But as for what you are going to choose to get into I would say boxing unless you are thinking of getting into the MMA scene or just want a good sense of the fundamentals of self defense and want to get the basics down. Training for boxing is really one of the best excercise regimens that you can undergo and having a solid grasp of the fundamentals of striking is a very good thing. I could actually say the same thing for wrestling but there's just not nearly as many good wrestling schools around.

[QUOTE="pygmahia5"][QUOTE="worthyofnote"]It depends on personal preference. How about trying out both and seeing what fits in your interests the most then pursue that route. See what works for you. No matter how much people argue back and forth on a forum about a hypothetical situation, it isn't going to make the decision for you yourself. worthyofnote

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Iconic_D"] Yeah but what people are discussing right now is not really about a bar fight, were mainly trying to talk about who's strategies would be better and what their trained in doing.Iconic_D

exactly.

it's like he/she wants to go through the entire fight move by move as if he/she knows what's gonna happen.

i'll take Mike Tyson in his prime in a bar fight over any MMA fighterandyboiii

Agreed. Well, Iron Mike in his prime.

~~Oh, right. Yeah, what you said

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

who would expect that?

they wouln't JUST use bottles and chairs though either. they'd use the training from each respective sport to win, and since both can fight dirty using bottles and chairs, but only one (the MMA fighter) has trained vigorously to work on his ground game as well as kicks and other moves not allowed in boxing, MMA fighters in general have the edge in everything except for boxing.

if anyone has seen many street fights, you guys would know that they almost always end up on the ground eventually. especially when you are drunk.

who's going to have the edge there?

finesse-gamer

how do you know the MMA fighter wouldn't kick his legs out from under him before the boxer comes within arms length?

MMA-MIXED Martial Arts. They are trained in all kinds of different styles, boxing, kick boxing, muy thai, wrestling,karate, the list is very long. That's why the MMA fighter would win. They have a bigger arsenal.

[QUOTE="Iconic_D"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] And it will vary per individual. You're good at what you train at. You're good at what you train against. I'm trying to think of a good analogy for this... would sniper vs assault rifle work? finesse-gamer

exactly.

it's like he/she wants to go through the entire fight move by move as if he/she knows what's gonna happen.

MMA-MIXED Martial Arts. They are trained in all kinds of different styles, boxing, kick boxing, muy thai, wrestling,karate, the list is very long. That's why the MMA fighter would win. They have a bigger arsenal.

Jfisch93

Being mediocre at many things isnt necessarily better thanbeing a master at one particular thing.

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MMA-MIXED Martial Arts. They are trained in all kinds of different styles, boxing, kick boxing, muy thai, wrestling,karate, the list is very long. That's why the MMA fighter would win. They have a bigger arsenal.

KcurtorMas

Being mediocre at many things isnt necessarily better thanbeing a master at one particular thing.

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[QUOTE="Iconic_D"] Well you can't base this kind of argument with possibilities because that's chance, you need to base an argument like this off of facts and technical aspects.Sajedene

exactly.

it's like he/she wants to go through the entire fight move by move as if he/she knows what's gonna happen.

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

exactly.

it's like he/she wants to go through the entire fight move by move as if he/she knows what's gonna happen.pygmahia5

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

exactly.

it's like he/she wants to go through the entire fight move by move as if he/she knows what's gonna happen.

pygmahia5

You don;t understand what I am trying to get at, i'm basing the argument on if an mma fighter and a boxer were to fight with the techniques they use in their sport who would superior?Iconic_D

I still live in fear and awe of Cro Cop...D3nnyCrane

[QUOTE="Iconic_D"]You don;t understand what I am trying to get at, i'm basing the argument on if an mma fighter and a boxer were to fight with the techniques they use in their sport who would superior?worthyofnote

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]I still live in fear and awe of Cro Cop...Sajedene

[QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="Iconic_D"]You don;t understand what I am trying to get at, i'm basing the argument on if an mma fighter and a boxer were to fight with the techniques they use in their sport who would superior?Iconic_D

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]I still live in fear and awe of Cro Cop...D3nnyCrane

How am I ignorant? i've been trying to prove an argument with facts this whole time.

Iconic_D

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Iconic_D"]See this is a good statement I totally agree with you and of course how you implied it would just be silly to role play something where theres so many outcomes.worthyofnote

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="worthyofnote"]That she has. That you have Saj. I've focused it all into one post instead of it being mentioned here and there. I still give you your credit.worthyofnote

Champion MMA Fighter no doubt.

I think a ninja could take out both.

Look at UFC when it first started and see what happens when you don't give them rules. Screw MMA put a muay thai guy in there >.>

Look at UFC when it first started and see what happens when you don't give them rules. Screw MMA put a muay thai guy in there >.>

FreezeBlast95

It could be MMA. In terms of skills, MMA advanced than Boxing.